Join us now at the IRC channel.
| *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 00:16 | |
| -NickServ-schestowitz__!~schestowi@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Mar 31 00:16 | |
| *schestowitz__ has quit (Changing host) | Mar 31 00:16 | |
| *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 00:16 | |
| *schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Mar 31 00:16 | |
| *Digit has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | Mar 31 00:19 | |
| cubexyz | this is new... github referral spam | Mar 31 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| *Digit (~user@fsf/member/digit) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 00:30 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 30/3/2020: #GNU #Linuxlibre 5.6, #WireGuard 1.0.0 http://techrights.org/2020/03/30/wireguard-1-0-0/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/347aabf7-22da-418a-858d-a54bcafa63ed] | Mar 31 00:42 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135813 #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/8db02b4a-d0d0-480b-b2c2-6e1dfd7ac37c] | Mar 31 00:42 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #gnu #linux on Devices: Seeed, Nexcom and Kontron http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135812 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6f0ff94c-f982-4451-b963-cb5ff3d9702c] | Mar 31 00:43 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Headlines, Linux-Tech&More QA, Linux Action News and Real Python Podcast http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135811 [https://pleroma.site/objects/219cd0b0-8e14-4796-a768-f9f310ea7a5f] | Mar 31 00:43 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135810 #howto #linux #gnu [https://pleroma.site/objects/760be3f5-610d-4e61-9384-96ef48e78d76] | Mar 31 00:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux’s #WireGuard #VPN is here and ready to protect you http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135791#comment-24333 [https://pleroma.site/objects/df50e68a-8746-4c8c-b9c3-44289a35925e] | Mar 31 00:45 | |
| *swaggboi has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Mar 31 00:46 | |
| *swaggboi (swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 00:52 | |
| *factor has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Mar 31 01:19 | |
| *factor (~factor@47-217-123-141.mskgcmta02.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 01:20 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 01:46 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 01:47 | |
| *oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Mar 31 01:54 | |
| *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Mar 31 01:54 | |
| *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 01:55 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 01:58 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Mar 31 01:58 | |
| *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | Mar 31 01:58 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Mar 31 01:59 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 02:07 | |
| *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Mar 31 03:05 | |
| *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 03:18 | |
| *titanbiscuit has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.7.4 - https://znc.in) | Mar 31 03:26 | |
| *titanbiscuit (~tbisk@23.105.160.136) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 03:27 | |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Support Richard Stallman and other victims of cancel culture! | https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/) | Mar 31 05:18 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 05:53 | |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 05:54 | |
| *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 05:54 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | My SSD is still kicking. | Mar 31 05:55 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Astro Slide is Part Smartphone, Part PDA with Support for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135784#comment-24334 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8e3568ce-86f1-48b4-ae46-7a96a6bb2adb] | Mar 31 06:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Where are the best GNOME communities http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135814 [https://pleroma.site/objects/71367196-eeda-4970-aa51-cfbffa3770d4] | Mar 31 06:50 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 20.04 GNOME X.Org vs. Wayland Session Performance Impact For Gaming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135815 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ec4584a0-b16d-4bc4-b71f-d9e294cf3235] | Mar 31 06:52 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Flatpak 1.7 Enters Development with New Features and Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135816 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e0126366-2601-487b-b7f6-2f481e799e3b] | Mar 31 06:54 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Critical Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in Ubuntu 19.10 and 18.04.4 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135817 [https://pleroma.site/objects/892f34c0-7b1f-4c7a-b592-5b73f00d6ebc] | Mar 31 06:55 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135818 [https://pleroma.site/objects/38daebcd-d96f-4ece-8f6a-ee45819351ed] | Mar 31 06:56 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Telegram Desktop 2.0 Release Adds Chat Folders, New Animated Emoji http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135819 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9dbe9253-0ca9-4c97-9871-82737732ba55] | Mar 31 06:58 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical Doubles Down on Raspberry Pi Support, Promises New Tools and Services http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135820 [https://pleroma.site/objects/63663bd8-6da0-4808-83f6-d223324fc127] | Mar 31 06:59 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Mar 31 07:01 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Mar 31 07:01 | |
| *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | Mar 31 07:01 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 07:35 | |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 07:36 | |
| *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 07:36 | |
| psydread | support as in Ubuntu Core to make it just as dysfunctional as Vista IoT Core? | Mar 31 07:50 |
| *rianne has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Mar 31 08:15 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 08:15 | |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 08:15 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | Mar 31 08:16 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 08:16 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 08:18 | |
| *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Mar 31 08:29 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | Mar 31 08:29 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Mar 31 08:29 | |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 08:35 | |
| *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 08:36 | |
| *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 08:40 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | Mar 31 08:40 | |
| *rianne has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Mar 31 08:40 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-66.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 08:40 | |
| oiaohm | psydread: really Vista IoT core end up not being sold because customers stayed on XP embedded because it was broken so badly. | Mar 31 08:46 |
| oiaohm | psydread: they only change when Windows 7 IoT/embedded stuff come out. | Mar 31 08:47 |
| oiaohm | psydread: when I say broken I mean sersoually due to way Microsoft so call patched the IOT network stack to remove features the result was 1/3 time a ping would not even work. | Mar 31 08:48 |
| oiaohm | So Ubuntu core is better than Vista IoT but that is not really saying much. | Mar 31 08:48 |
| psydread | this Windows 10 IoT Core seems to be dead in the water too | Mar 31 09:08 |
| psydread | yes, this WSL developer came extolling its virtues here a few months ago | Mar 31 09:09 |
| psydread | Ubuntu Core, I mean | Mar 31 09:09 |
| *insmodppa has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Mar 31 09:44 | |
| kingoffrance | i dunno, "core" always rubs me as "our sw is so non-modular we had to make a separate version to make run on x" -- i tend to consider it a bad sign anything named "core" | Mar 31 10:06 |
| *insmodppa (~insmod@unaffiliated/insmodppa) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 10:11 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 10:13 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 10:14 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 10:36 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 10:36 | |
| psydread | exactly | Mar 31 10:51 |
| psydread | we didn't need "core" operating systems in the 90s, so why should they be needed now | Mar 31 10:52 |
| MinceR | unixes scale; Backdoors and systemd don't | Mar 31 11:24 |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 11:38 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 11:39 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical To Bring New Tools And Ubuntu Linux Support For Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135820#comment-24336 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f1384673-8211-48f0-90ed-cee988fb4f04] | Mar 31 11:59 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: This 5G Phone Runs Linux and Doubles as a Tiny Laptop with a Physical Keyboard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135784#comment-24335 [https://pleroma.site/objects/405a8965-fd70-4a78-bd29-8652ad4d7b60] | Mar 31 12:00 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135823 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ff120ac8-aef8-40a8-b741-aa623e55f99a] | Mar 31 12:05 | |
| *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 12:07 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Pixelorama – Open Source Editor for Pixel Art http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135822 [https://pleroma.site/objects/be8fdb2e-000c-43f2-89b9-986047553b25] | Mar 31 12:08 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IEEE Standards Association Launches an Open Source Collaboration Platform http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135821 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7b2aea06-238b-4eb4-b71e-9a55c0aacd8f] | Mar 31 12:10 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not all unixes scale. | Mar 31 12:11 |
| MinceR | yeah, slowlaris doesn't :> | Mar 31 12:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the early unix were designed only for single core cpus \ | Mar 31 12:12 |
| oiaohm | So solaris scales more than some of the early unixes. | Mar 31 12:12 |
| oiaohm | psydread: the idea of a core OS appears in the 1980s for embedded. | Mar 31 12:15 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUbKwu1XQAAuNHM.png | Mar 31 12:20 |
| oiaohm | psydread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VxWorks items like VxWorks in the 1980s you would be sold a core then pay for your addon middle ware bits. | Mar 31 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | VxWorks - Wikipedia | Mar 31 12:23 | |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu core is a lot more feature rich than the embedded core products of old. | Mar 31 12:24 |
| MinceR | this obsession with features is making our software unusable | Mar 31 12:26 |
| oiaohm | Really it double sided. | Mar 31 12:28 |
| oiaohm | software is also not that useable if it missing the features you need as well. | Mar 31 12:28 |
| MinceR | modularity can help | Mar 31 12:29 |
| MinceR | (though obviously not if basic functionality remains untested and unfixed in the quest for shiny stuff nobody will use) | Mar 31 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Can also be the cause of disaster. | Mar 31 12:29 |
| oiaohm | If the modularlity ends up going though proper intergration testing. | Mar 31 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel has a lot of build time configurable modularity so there are large areas of the Linux kernel not regularly tested. | Mar 31 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Like good question when was the last time all the filesystems the Linux kernel supports in fact tested. | Mar 31 12:31 |
| oiaohm | If you answer close to never you are really close to right. | Mar 31 12:32 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embeddable_Linux_Kernel_Subset hmm I did not think this beast was still live. Interesting who today would be needing Linux like OS for 16 bit platforms. | Mar 31 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Embeddable Linux Kernel Subset - Wikipedia | Mar 31 12:36 | |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/4fbdd74b5234b3e4.jpg | Mar 31 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | heh | Mar 31 13:02 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: ted is very dead | Mar 31 13:02 |
| schestowitz__ | not even live cds can save it | Mar 31 13:02 |
| schestowitz__ | screen fed | Mar 31 13:02 |
| schestowitz__ | f-ed | Mar 31 13:02 |
| schestowitz__ | same for keyboard, hdd and keyboard | Mar 31 13:03 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like trying to revive a 120 year old without limbs | Mar 31 13:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 31 13:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz__: its not one of the ones where you remove the memory card from the very old laptop and find the memory modules no longer connected. | Mar 31 13:06 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IEEE Launches an Open Source Collaboration Platform http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135824 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87346a6e-c391-4d21-a954-8a8f75b8d7e3] | Mar 31 13:06 | |
| oiaohm | and it had been glitching for a while. | Mar 31 13:06 |
| oiaohm | I have had 3 of those in the last month. | Mar 31 13:07 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/8jwi2rlp3qp41.jpg | Mar 31 13:22 |
| *XFaCE_ (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 14:54 | |
| *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | Mar 31 14:56 | |
| *XFaCE_ is now known as XFaCE | Mar 31 14:56 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/31/a979159553cf0eef.jpg | Mar 31 15:01 |
| *titanbiscuit has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.7.4 - https://znc.in) | Mar 31 15:02 | |
| *titanbiscuit (~tbisk@23.105.160.136) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 15:03 | |
| *sb0_ (~lekernel@138019142104.ctinets.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 15:06 | |
| *a1batross (f99f96a489@gateway/shell/jabberfr/x-itxyeeqijimjrtye) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 15:47 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 15:53 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 15:53 | |
| *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 16:33 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Vs Kubuntu Vs Neon Vs Plasma – What’s the Difference http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135825 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f10a1553-80ce-4bbc-af27-93bf55c22437] | Mar 31 16:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Behind Plasma Bigscreen http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135826 [https://pleroma.site/objects/80886a08-3b96-4e43-ac40-bb74eeb93348] | Mar 31 16:47 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135827 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9d03fac2-b685-4c69-bf90-9fed83f95e9e] | Mar 31 16:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 40 Practical and Useful awk Command in Linux and BSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135828 [https://pleroma.site/objects/83625bc7-52c8-4037-a1ad-ec9890913447] | Mar 31 16:54 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Obarun – An Arch Based Linux Distro Without Systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135829 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fd9cbf69-dbb6-4f10-92fe-e53afabad295] | Mar 31 16:59 | |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/4d30dc42cec5393e.mp4 | Mar 31 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Good ad | Mar 31 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Also obsolete | Mar 31 17:04 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Plasma 5.18.4 LTS Desktop Environment Brings More Than 40 Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135830 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0d71c26d-1e88-40a8-a796-ec5f5e2a4318] | Mar 31 17:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | real ad? | Mar 31 17:28 |
| schestowitz__ | and real MC Hammer? | Mar 31 17:29 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Mar 31 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | ~$ which touch | Mar 31 17:39 |
| schestowitz__ | /usr/bin/touch | Mar 31 17:39 |
| schestowitz__ | ERROR: you can't touch this | Mar 31 17:40 |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 17:56 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 17:58 | |
| MinceR | http://explosm.net/comics/5466 | Mar 31 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Mar 31 18:54 | |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/clown-humor | Mar 31 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Clown Humor | Mar 31 19:08 | |
| *a1batross (f99f96a489@gateway/shell/jabberfr/x-itxyeeqijimjrtye) has left #techrights | Mar 31 19:09 | |
| XRevan86 | April 1st is coming… https://youtu.be/H4RUnTCtb4A | Mar 31 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fuck this - Exorcist - Scary Movie 2 - YouTube | Mar 31 19:13 | |
| *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 19:39 | |
| *tdemin has quit (Client Quit) | Mar 31 19:40 | |
| *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 19:40 | |
| *Researcher- has quit (Quit: Node swtching mode ... transfer will complete in 12 sec) | Mar 31 19:47 | |
| *Researcher- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 19:50 | |
| *a1batross (f99f96a489@gateway/shell/jabberfr/x-itxyeeqijimjrtye) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 19:53 | |
| *a1batross (f99f96a489@gateway/shell/jabberfr/x-itxyeeqijimjrtye) has left #techrights ("Replaced by new connection") | Mar 31 20:10 | |
| cubexyz | nowadays it's April 1st every day | Mar 31 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's why I don't feel like going through an actual one | Mar 31 20:28 |
| *a1batross (f99f96a489@gateway/shell/jabberfr/x-itxyeeqijimjrtye) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 20:36 | |
| Digit | april 1st's just the reminder that it's only 19 days to go.... until... george takai[played hikaru sulu in star trek]'s birthday. ;) | Mar 31 20:38 |
| Digit | 4:20 | Mar 31 20:38 |
| willyg_cos | UC Boulder cancelled it for this year already... | Mar 31 20:45 |
| CrystalMath | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qkNzlzSQM | Mar 31 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LEFFEST'19 Resistências - Virtualidade da Resistência, Resistência na Virtualidade - YouTube | Mar 31 21:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe the CEO of MyPillow knows what to do. (Aside from his own personal troubles for tax evasion and false medical claims....) | Mar 31 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump let him run an infomercial for himself in exchange for blowing him during the Coronavirus press conference. It was surreal. | Mar 31 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And then CNN cuts away and Republicans scream. | Mar 31 21:09 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/1910301 | Mar 31 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Mar 31 21:10 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 21:22 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 21:22 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Mar 31 21:31 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 21:32 | |
| kingoffrance | the pillow guy saying "read your bibles" is unintentional face palm-level irony; u.s. presidents swear their oath on the kjv, which 1) never authorized any "independence" or "we the people"/more than one "king" (well, other than church of england claiming ind. from rome and hence, wanted their own bible) 2) king james, on the other hand, DID authorize "witch hunts" and wrote a manual or 2 as companion pieces to his kjv -- | Mar 31 21:44 |
| kingoffrance | it is surreal; do these people have any idea of what the kjv "authorizes" and does not "authorize"? no. | Mar 31 21:44 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/come-on-baby | Mar 31 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Come on, Baby | Mar 31 21:50 | |
| cubexyz | KING James :) | Mar 31 22:03 |
| cubexyz | well, doctors used to do cigarette ads on tv | Mar 31 22:04 |
| cubexyz | things are improving...... slowly | Mar 31 22:04 |
| MinceR | things are largely getting worse | Mar 31 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: What are you talking about? | Mar 31 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's an atomic bomb going off on the only age group that likes Trump. | Mar 31 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A better world means worse for some. | Mar 31 22:15 |
| Digit | slowly indeed. time flies when you're not in pain or prison. | Mar 31 22:15 |
| Digit | DaemonFC[m]: democide is not a healthy avenue of remedy, nor a wise precedent to set. | Mar 31 22:16 |
| Digit | Nor does a better world necessitate worse for some. | Mar 31 22:16 |
| Digit | There are "everybody wins" solutions, that make even the richest better of. | Mar 31 22:17 |
| Narrator | well | Mar 31 22:17 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: for example, the dictatorship in hungary has been tightened recently | Mar 31 22:17 |
| MinceR | the FSF is history, GNU is dying, Linux is dying, the general purpose computer is dying | Mar 31 22:18 |
| MinceR | authoritarianism is spreading like a plage | Mar 31 22:18 |
| Narrator | group that likes trump? do you want bomb 90% of america?;-) | Mar 31 22:18 |
| MinceR | humans are making the planet uninhabitable | Mar 31 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | > group that likes trump? do you want bomb 90% of america?;-) | Mar 31 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, just the 40%. | Mar 31 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or enough of them to cause some states to flip. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| Digit | dumbing down and dependence rife, knowledge lost... end times nightmares indeed. but, it's nice to be placated with the notion that everything's getting better. nice lullaby. best of times, worst of times. much potential, held back. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| Narrator | he win i think it's more that40%;-) | Mar 31 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That way the plague of paralyzed government except when it wants to do something really nasty (Trump) will keep spreading. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He lost by over 4 million votes. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he barely won a few swing states, and it was enough to win the electoral college. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| Narrator | strange, he if finish afgan war ... | Mar 31 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Three of the swing states he won was by 0.6-1.6%. | Mar 31 22:20 |
| Narrator | do you want continue this war? | Mar 31 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So yeah, there's Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Florida. | Mar 31 22:20 |
| Narrator | ... is ... | Mar 31 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | > do you want continue this war? | Mar 31 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My opinion of the war in Afghanistan is it should have started by nuking them. | Mar 31 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead, Trump surrendered after 20 years of American deaths and $6 trillion lost. | Mar 31 22:21 |
| Narrator | trump suporter? | Mar 31 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's more like what happened to the Soviets than a win. | Mar 31 22:21 |
| Narrator | this is not possible | Mar 31 22:21 |
| Narrator | afgan is our source of drugs | Mar 31 22:21 |
| Digit | DaemonFC[m]: careful not to confuse the turn out of the electorate with the entire population. we cant really say what % like trump. ... actually, having said that, given the voting machines are rigged (and the electoral college)(and the terrorism of a vote-for-the-lesser-of-two-evils faux-democracy), we cant even say how many voted for (willingly, without duress). | Mar 31 22:22 |
| Narrator | nobody can nuke it | Mar 31 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nuke Afghanistan, the places where the terrorists were. | Mar 31 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's nothing there except rocks and religious nuts so you can't really take anything from them. | Mar 31 22:22 |
| Narrator | are u sure? | Mar 31 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | > DaemonFC: careful not to confuse the turn out of the electorate with the entire population. we cant really say what % like trump. ... actually, having said that, given the voting machines are rigged (and the electoral college)(and the terrorism of a vote-for-the-lesser-of-two-evils faux-democracy), we cant even say how many voted for (willingly, without duress). | Mar 31 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the poll average, he's like 8 points underwater. | Mar 31 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Including 7 points with Rasmussen, which leans Republican. | Mar 31 22:23 |
| Digit | DaemonFC[m]: you advocate mass murder. ... uhhh... you might wanna take a step back and reconsider. | Mar 31 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the Republicans are 10 points under on the Congressional Ballot right now. | Mar 31 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats gained 3 points since Trump started fucking this up. | Mar 31 22:23 |
| Narrator | u have more trump idealogy than you think;-) | Mar 31 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they went into the election +10, they'd come out with at least 290 seats in the House. | Mar 31 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And as many as 315. | Mar 31 22:24 |
| Narrator | u want to win our trump :) | Mar 31 22:24 |
| Narrator | i mean yout trump | Mar 31 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Years after they mocked the block people being choked to death by racist cops for selling loose cigarettes. | Mar 31 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans want us to feel bad that they can't breathe. | Mar 31 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I liked the TV series Babylon 5. | Mar 31 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I was actually more or less in agreement with the Shadows. | Mar 31 22:25 |
| Digit | lol. what a fool. | Mar 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | this plague being "mass murder" implies it's either made by humans or deliberately spread by humans with the intention of killing people :> | Mar 31 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the weak and the incompetent who always say things like "Make my country great again!". | Mar 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | do you know something we don't, Digit? :> | Mar 31 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And this virus is killing them and kicking over the anthills. | Mar 31 22:26 |
| Digit | MinceR: we all know something others dont. but to agree with the shadows, seems high level foolishness. | Mar 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | what did the shadows say? | Mar 31 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not mass murder except that Trump fucked up the federal response. | Mar 31 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And now it's too late except to try your best to avoid it with hand sanitizer if you have some. | Mar 31 22:27 |
| *Digit contemplates how to surmise the shadows... | Mar 31 22:27 | |
| *MinceR gazes into the abyss | Mar 31 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if you want to be mad, blame him. | Mar 31 22:27 |
| Digit | DaemonFC[m]: maybe you can surmise it better than i, since it's you who agrees with them... | Mar 31 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't make the fucking thing. | Mar 31 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't say "Oh, let's keep the cruise ships and international flights open.". | Mar 31 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Maybe ask a few people if they went to China recently and that's it." | Mar 31 22:28 |
| Narrator | blame ... president of the galaxy :) | Mar 31 22:28 |
| MinceR | Twitler did abolish some sort of organization the purpose of which was to deal with such epidemics, afaik | Mar 31 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not the one who told Alex Azar to stop asking Congress to replenish our national medical stockpile. | Mar 31 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump did all that. | Mar 31 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now his supporters are dying. Probably 1,000 people today alone. | Mar 31 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's spreading faster in rural areas by percentage, even with much less testing. | Mar 31 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I think this is really more of a "them" problem. | Mar 31 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It'll kill two Republicans per Democrat, and the Democrats are old and conservative. | Mar 31 22:30 |
| Narrator | viewer of spectale not a reality | Mar 31 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it'll change the party quite a bit. | Mar 31 22:30 |
| *Digit wonders if "I didn't make the fucking thing" was as far as the explanation of what DaemonFC agrees with babylon5's "the shadows" about will go | Mar 31 22:32 | |
| *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Mar 31 22:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Shadows said they were all about evolution by way of destruction. | Mar 31 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Killing the weak, letting the strong rebuild. | Mar 31 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And perversely and through a force of nature, this is exactly what the virus is doing, and by knocking over the fatsos and old farts on their Medicare scooters who voted for Trump. | Mar 31 22:34 |
| Digit | evolution through hyper selection and manufactured hardship tho, to cultivate those who will succeed in more psychopathic compassionless grounds... ~ ah yup^, i see you characterise it much the same as i type it out. | Mar 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Video_Communications#Security | Mar 31 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zoom Video Communications - Wikipedia | Mar 31 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it's not really illegal to have the opinion that the virus is burning through the dead wood of our society. | Mar 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | again, >manufactured | Mar 31 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like a forest fire that allows the pine cones to start over with younger, healthier trees. | Mar 31 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What about all the good things the virus does? | Mar 31 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was a nursing shortage. Now there won't be. | Mar 31 22:36 |
| Digit | i'm all for a less regressive(~ back from mammalian) evolution, and more progressive(~ forward from mammalian) evolution. y'know, the broader thinking compassion stuff that the lower life forms from which we evolved have less of. | Mar 31 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was a social security and medicare crisis. | Mar 31 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The damned thing is setting the clock back 10 years on that when it's done. | Mar 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | it gives earth a tiny bit of a respite from pollution | Mar 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | not nearly enough, but something | Mar 31 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Society is already overly burdened paying for things that an increasing number of old people to workers are using. | Mar 31 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In 10 years, the real shit show starts, but then this came along. | Mar 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | compassion -- one of the things humans are breeding out of themselves | Mar 31 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | > not nearly enough, but something | Mar 31 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, 1,000 people dead today, each one putting how much pollution into the environment of all sorts? | Mar 31 22:38 |
| Digit | when we deploy compassion, we evolve our capacities for augment far greater than merely relying on the survival-of-the-fittest selection gate. there's more to evolution than just killing off the weak. ... and to presume to know what that is, and to accelerate it... wow foolish. blinding arrogance. | Mar 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | yeah, but there are billions and they're reproducing | Mar 31 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Compassion was already gone. Old people mocked us for dying of healthcare rationing, homelessness, war, and whatever else they threw at us. | Mar 31 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they want us to feel bad for them. | Mar 31 22:39 |
| MinceR | Digit: are those quotes from babylon 5? | Mar 31 22:39 |
| Digit | heh, nope. just me talking. | Mar 31 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: No Compassion by the Talking Heads. | Mar 31 22:39 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 31 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tell your analyst. Isn't that what they're paid for? | Mar 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | "Your arrogance was well-known in advance. We knew all about it." | Mar 31 22:40 |
| Digit | what's with the notion of killing people to prevent polution??? how about instead, make the tech not be the poluting kind? .... aw, but boohoo, we want to polute. *cringe* why? so u can remain dependent on the fuel pump? XD emancipation technologies exist. many in the secret agencies and their contractors are itching to accelerate disclosure and get these technologies out... but there's big money coersions keeping the status | Mar 31 22:41 |
| Digit | quo in place. no need to have a cull. like i say, there are win-win solutions waiting. | Mar 31 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Again, the people voting against clean energy and for more coal and oil subsidies.... | Mar 31 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Dying. | Mar 31 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a twofer | Mar 31 22:42 |
| MinceR | Digit: afaik none of our tech is perfectly non-polluting | Mar 31 22:42 |
| Digit | DaemonFC[m]: so, if i offered you a solution where they embrace clean technology, ... would you still want to kill them? | Mar 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | the overpopulation is making people crazy | Mar 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | it's the reason why people in cities behave like assholes | Mar 31 22:43 |
| Digit | MinceR: "perfect", that's the enemy of the perfectly adequate. but "our", as in, the stuff that's used in practice today? no indeed! FAR from non-poluting. | Mar 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | in many cases, living in a less polluting way reduces quality of life | Mar 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | it would make more sense to focus on quality of life rather than making as many humans as possible suffer on this planet | Mar 31 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | me on Facebook | Mar 31 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | " Pray in one hand and shit in the other and let us know which one fills up first. One of those crazy Pentecostal sorceress ladies already prayed this away in the name of Jesus a few days ago with her really long hair. Obviously that worked." | Mar 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 31 22:45 |
| Digit | mismanagement of all our resources, not just space, contributes to the crazy, yeah. idk if population density ("over population") is itself a key cause. may just take one or two minor attenuations... and we could build arcologies around the world to accomodate > 300,000,000,000,000 (300trillion, not billion) (and i did do the maths (years ago). so, again, no cull necessary. | Mar 31 22:46 |
| Digit | ... and that's even before i get to... we could each have had our own spaceship each, since the 1930s! | Mar 31 22:46 |
| MinceR | arcologies would concentrate people further and would make them even crazier | Mar 31 22:46 |
| Digit | I wonder how far back it goes, and how much the suppressed high tech goes way way way further back than that (like, thinking robert schoch n such). | Mar 31 22:48 |
| Digit | MinceR: assuming we replicate the same mistakes. arcologies can be multiple levels of open forrest space. | Mar 31 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem is that there's a lot of dead wood to burn through and it's only cleared out a rounding error's worth. | Mar 31 22:49 |
| Digit | "dead wood". people. you mean people. dont you. :P | Mar 31 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: My mom: "I'm a Pentecostal and if I grow my hair out really long I can heal people and cast demons out!". | Mar 31 22:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 31 22:50 |
| MinceR | can she also become an Operating Thetan? | Mar 31 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also my mom: "Your dad and jan are nuts. They talk to psychics and believe in witchcraft and scientology!". | Mar 31 22:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 31 22:50 |
| Digit | reminds me of the dehumanising they spoke of in the desk killers episode of renegade inc. https://www.rt.com/shows/renegade-inc/484404-holocaust-sponsorship-human-history/video/5e81ba7a85f5407388261ecc | Mar 31 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | NO TITLE | Mar 31 22:50 | |
| MinceR | >rt | Mar 31 22:50 |
| Digit | the ointment in their flies tho. ;D | Mar 31 22:51 |
| Digit | tho... that may just be the honey in the pitcher plant, luring trust. | Mar 31 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not too many people in Florida need to die of this to throw the election, really. | Mar 31 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The last two Republican presidents have ranged from 517 votes (after the recount was canceled by Republicans) and 26,000 (Trump). | Mar 31 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In a state of almost 30 million people. | Mar 31 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Before Trump botched the PR Hurricane thing to the level where 60,000 of them moved to Florida and can vote. | Mar 31 22:53 |
| MinceR | the fact that we're relying on people dying to make our lives suck less highlights how broken our society is | Mar 31 22:53 |
| MinceR | especially this whole state thing | Mar 31 22:53 |
| MinceR | we let masses of idiots put people in charge of our lives | Mar 31 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And 260,000 felons were re-enfranchised and most of them were convicted of Republican laws in the first place. | Mar 31 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If more than about 35,000 people in Florida die and it had exactly the same electorate as last time (not even close) voting in the same way (his approval is down in Florida so they wouldn't), it's over for Trump. | Mar 31 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they get all of the FEMA stuff while other states get whatever's left. | Mar 31 22:54 |
| Digit | MinceR: masses... idk. i think it's few, who do this to the masses. | Mar 31 22:55 |
| MinceR | that's no better | Mar 31 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plus the devastation of New York sort of wipes out Florida's fresh source of old voters for years. | Mar 31 22:55 |
| MinceR | and the masses allow this to be done to them | Mar 31 22:55 |
| MinceR | people were conditioned to believe that this is justified | Mar 31 22:55 |
| *Digit favours anarco-socialist augment of everyone to be astute contributors, many eyes making all bugs shallow, contrast to a philosopher (or just klepto) king, for that which affects all, and there's no escape from. | Mar 31 22:56 | |
| *MinceR prefers anarchism without adjectives | Mar 31 22:57 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Me on Facebook: | Mar 31 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I haven't seen any Trumpy bear ads lately. Maybe they're junking the factory to produce ventilators with toupees. Like toupee facehuggers from Aliens" | Mar 31 22:57 |
| Digit | masses allowed themselves to be hypnotised and lobotomised... yeah... but it's the slow boiling frog, they werent to see it. by design. by few. | Mar 31 22:57 |
| Digit | MinceR: that may be wise, given the bredth of ambiguity and opportunity for abuse in "socialist". | Mar 31 22:58 |
| Narrator | Digit: well, masses have no clear communications channel and are not educated | Mar 31 22:59 |
| Narrator | there is no hipnosis in media;-) | Mar 31 23:00 |
| Narrator | you are wrong | Mar 31 23:00 |
| Narrator | all know that media sends shit | Mar 31 23:01 |
| Digit | oh, thanks for clarifying that for me Narrator. that's right. I love big brother. ;D | Mar 31 23:01 |
| Digit | or, big whatever it is when the state's all corporate side. ... i shoulda picked my authoritairian dystopian reference better. hindsight. heh. | Mar 31 23:03 |
| Narrator | hipnosis require to trust the person who do the process | Mar 31 23:04 |
| Digit | ah! is that why the news doesnt work on me since 2001? ;D | Mar 31 23:06 |
| Narrator | probably:) | Mar 31 23:07 |
| cubexyz | well go back and watch the news of the past and tell me if it was better | Mar 31 23:08 |
| Digit | twasnt. just that's when i saw the emperor wears no clothes. | Mar 31 23:09 |
| cubexyz | less commercials is about all you can say | Mar 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | "omelette du fromage" | Mar 31 23:10 |
| *Digit wonders how long before BBC add advertising, further drifting from being the beloved auntie | Mar 31 23:10 | |
| cubexyz | in the 1960s they ran cigarette ads, followed by anti-cigarette ads | Mar 31 23:11 |
| cubexyz | then some time in the 1970s cigarette ads were completely banned from television | Mar 31 23:11 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mimic | Mar 31 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Mimic | Mar 31 23:11 | |
| MinceR | if they weren't, we could have seen the evolution of anti-anti-cigarette ads and eventually anti-anti-anti-cigarette ads | Mar 31 23:12 |
| Narrator | well, remember douglas adams works in bbc | Mar 31 23:12 |
| cubexyz | I don't think my grandfather ever owned a TV | Mar 31 23:13 |
| cubexyz | or, wait, I mean great grandfather | Mar 31 23:13 |
| Narrator | in my home tv was in 70ies | Mar 31 23:14 |
| cubexyz | look at some old photographs of cities and you'll probably see the tv antennas started to appear in the 1950s | Mar 31 23:15 |
| cubexyz | not everywhere... UK was probably later on | Mar 31 23:16 |
| cubexyz | ok, I have the stats on tv commericals... | Mar 31 23:17 |
| cubexyz | in the 1950s it was about 13 percent... | Mar 31 23:17 |
| cubexyz | now... it could be as high as 32 percent | Mar 31 23:17 |
| Narrator | well, the old media | Mar 31 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6T2XxNtM0&feature=youtu.be | Mar 31 23:18 |
| Narrator | today this is not so important | Mar 31 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One Week Later - YouTube | Mar 31 23:18 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/commerciallength.htm | Mar 31 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.waynesthisandthat.com | Growth of TV Time taken up by Commercials | Mar 31 23:18 | |
| Narrator | social media are even worse | Mar 31 23:19 |
| Digit | ~ depends. that's a broad brush. | Mar 31 23:19 |
| Narrator | why it depends> | Mar 31 23:20 |
| Narrator | ? | Mar 31 23:20 |
| Digit | to question that, throws me, for, surely you dont think /all/ social media are worse, and no nuance nor niche can attenuate it to rise above the classic corporate media so much? | Mar 31 23:28 |
| Digit | i have notions of a few tweaks to the forums/reddit/socialmedia formats of how to further lift it out of the propaganda parroting noise factory. i have my doubts i'll ever get around to implementing them though. but it's a comfort of sorts, to know we've still got loads of room to improve, and the crap we have now is not the best possible. | Mar 31 23:31 |
| *sb0_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | Mar 31 23:52 | |
| Narrator | well, i think that soicial media are worse | Mar 31 23:58 |
| Narrator | all social media | Mar 31 23:58 |
| *sb0_ (~lekernel@138019142104.ctinets.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 23:58 | |
| Narrator | old media were dumb and pasive | Mar 31 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
