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schestowitz-pitechrights did at least 2 "statements" on this issueDec 01 00:07
schestowitz-pito clarify voting machines are no goodDec 01 00:07
schestowitz-pirehargless of new sites' rhetoricDec 01 00:07
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  KDE Plasma 6 Desktop Environment Is Now Available for Public Beta Testing ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/KDE_Plasma_6_Desktop_Environment_Is_Now_Available_for_Public_Be.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/KDE_Plasma_6_Desktop_Environment_Is_Now_Available_for_Public_Be.gmi ∎Dec 01 00:59
schestowitz-pi<admfubar> https://techxplore.com/news/2023-11-chaos-microsoft-seat-openai.htmlDec 01 01:20
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- techxplore.com | After chaos, Microsoft wins observer seat at OpenAIDec 01 01:20
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Well, guess who nobody has ever been able to make allegations against.Dec 01 01:20
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> admfubar: as expectedDec 01 01:20
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Steam Deck (GNU/Linux Powered) Sales Surge, Best PS2 Games For Emulation & Steam Deck (2023) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Steam_Deck_GNU_Linux_Powered_Sales_Surge_Best_PS2_Games_For_Emu.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Steam_Deck_GNU_Linux_Powered_Sales_Surge_Best_PS2_Games_For_Emu.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:10
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Ubuntu 24.04 LTS and Canonical at CES 202 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Ubuntu_24_04_LTS_and_Canonical_at_CES_202.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Ubuntu_24_04_LTS_and_Canonical_at_CES_202.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Free Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Free_Software_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Free_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Programming With R: Releases and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Programming_With_R_Releases_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Programming_With_R_Releases_and_More.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:20
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Proprietary Stuff and Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Proprietary_Stuff_and_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Proprietary_Stuff_and_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:20
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 01/12/2023: Many Suppressions in Hong Kong and Attempts to Legitimise Illegal and Unconstitutional Fake Patent 'Court' in EU (UPC) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Links_01_12_2023_Many_Suppressions_in_Hong_Kong_and_Attempts_to.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Links_01_12_2023_Many_Suppressions_in_Hong_Kong_and_Attempts_to.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:23
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:26
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techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 30, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/irc-log-301123.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/irc-log-301123.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Red Hat: Shaping the Narrative With IBM's Media Budget ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Red_Hat_Shaping_the_Narrative_With_IBM_s_Media_Budget.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Red_Hat_Shaping_the_Narrative_With_IBM_s_Media_Budget.gmi ∎Dec 01 02:55
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Security and Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Dec 01 03:11
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Open Source Spacecraft Avionics With NASA's Core Flight System ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Open_Source_Spacecraft_Avionics_With_NASA_s_Core_Flight_System.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Open_Source_Spacecraft_Avionics_With_NASA_s_Core_Flight_System.gmi ∎Dec 01 03:14
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Oligarchs fund "fight for democracy"... lovely... let them control the narrative https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/04/aboutDec 01 03:16
schestowitz-pi-the-fight-for-democracy-a-guardian-seriesDec 01 03:16
schestowitz-pinot sure how to cover this... withint repeating what we said before: Dec 01 03:16
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/o/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/Dec 01 03:16
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/o/2023/04/19/fox-news-straw-man/Dec 01 03:16
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techrights-newsTechrights – Google: Keep Out, Don't Save Your Files, and Also Let Us Spy on Everything You Do ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Google_Keep_Out_Don_t_Save_Your_Files_and_Also_Let_Us_Spy_on_Ev.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Google_Keep_Out_Don_t_Save_Your_Files_and_Also_Let_Us_Spy_on_Ev.gmi ∎Dec 01 04:05
techrights-newsTechrights – New Report Provides Numerical Evidence That Google Hired Too Many People From Microsoft (and Became Malicious, Evil, Sociopathic) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/New_Report_Provides_Numerical_Evidence_That_Google_Hired_Too_Ma.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/New_Report_Provides_Numerical_Evidence_That_Google_Hired_Too_Ma.gmi ∎Dec 01 04:21
techrights-sec3https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2023-11-30/europe-agrees-on-rules-to-protect-smart-devices-from-cyber-threatsDec 01 04:35
techrights-sec3^ can that mean FOSS and open standards as a requirement?Dec 01 04:35
techrights-sec3Are these two related:Dec 01 04:35
techrights-sec3https://www.wionews.com/technology/google-presses-for-antitrust-action-against-rival-microsoft-reuters-664856Dec 01 04:35
techrights-sec3https://siliconangle.com/2023/11/30/microsoft-invests-2-5b-uk-focus-artificial-intelligence-economy/    Dec 01 04:35
techrights-sec3m$ may be bribing its way out of trouble thereDec 01 04:35
schestowitz-pichecking.... trying to avoid multitasking too, writing postDec 01 04:38
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techrights-newsTechrights – November 2023 Over With GNU/Linux at All-Time Highs According to statCounter ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/November_2023_Over_With_GNU_Linux_at_All_Time_Highs_According_t.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/November_2023_Over_With_GNU_Linux_at_All_Time_Highs_According_t.gmi ∎Dec 01 04:47
schestowitz-pichecking.... trying to avoid multitasking too, writing postDec 01 04:50
techrights-newsTechrights – It's Cheaper to Pay Bribes (and Produce Press Releases) Than to Pay Fines (After Lots of Negative Publicity) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/It_s_Cheaper_to_Pay_Bribes_and_Produce_Press_Releases_Than_to_P.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/It_s_Cheaper_to_Pay_Bribes_and_Produce_Press_Releases_Than_to_P.gmi ∎Dec 01 05:08
techrights-newsTechrights – UK Government Allowing Microsoft to Take Over Activision Blizzard Will Destroy Jobs ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/UK_Government_Allowing_Microsoft_to_Take_Over_Activision_Blizza.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/UK_Government_Allowing_Microsoft_to_Take_Over_Activision_Blizza.gmi ∎Dec 01 05:20
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Dec 01 05:23
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Troubles at X and Overwhelming Fear of Microsoft Layoffs at Activision Blizzard ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Troubles_at_X_and_Overwhelming_Fear_of_Microsoft_Layoffs_at_Act.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Troubles_at_X_and_Overwhelming_Fear_of_Microsoft_Layoffs_at_Act.gmi ∎Dec 01 05:25
schestowitz-pihttps://www.simplyhosting.com/info/terms/change-to-termsDec 01 05:28
schestowitz-pi"All products and services will be subject to a 16% price increase.Dec 01 05:28
schestowitz-pi"Dec 01 05:28
schestowitz-pii didn't know about this 2 months agoDec 01 05:28
schestowitz-pi16 pct per annumDec 01 05:28
schestowitz-pitotally normal...Dec 01 05:28
schestowitz-pi+VATDec 01 05:29
schestowitz-pi83 > 102 is not 16%Dec 01 05:33
schestowitz-pimore like 25% increaseDec 01 05:33
schestowitz-pii can renew for a year on the 20thDec 01 05:33
schestowitz-pito secure the price 892+vatDec 01 05:33
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Fed up with Linux/Debian, moving all the things to FreeBSD! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Fed_up_with_Linux_Debian_moving_all_the_things_to_FreeBSD.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Fed_up_with_Linux_Debian_moving_all_the_things_to_FreeBSD.gmi ∎Dec 01 05:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  6 Best Free and Open Source Human Resource Management Software ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Human_Resource_Management_Software.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Human_Resource_Management_Software.gmi ∎Dec 01 06:21
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> "can?t write" ? https://rubenerd.com/scott-hanselman-got-tired/ | Source: Ruben Schade - a matter of momentum really, as Doctorow onceDec 01 06:23
schestowitz-pisaid as wellDec 01 06:23
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Games: Proton Experimental, Steam Deck, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Games_Proton_Experimental_Steam_Deck_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Games_Proton_Experimental_Steam_Deck_and_More.gmi ∎Dec 01 07:12
techrights-sec3Big price increase.  Tine to switch again? Dec 01 07:16
techrights-sec3okDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-pino, it was cheap to begin withDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-pibtw, just did a survey of home prices and rent prices near usDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-piit's strange because it seems went went up by a lot, unlike home pricesDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-piand i am guessing high interest means less demand for mortgages, driving down pricesDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-pijust a guessDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-pialso, in economy like this, peopld prefer to save than to blow it up on "assets" perhapsDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-pii didn't realise how "rents" in society are becoming a trapDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-piyanis wrote a look that covers this according to psydroidDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-pieverything as a rent, own nothingDec 01 07:16
schestowitz-piownership is not for youDec 01 07:17
schestowitz-piit's not your "class"Dec 01 07:17
techrights-sec3That's probably the reason.  Fewer borrow for a house if interest rates are highDec 01 07:17
techrights-sec3Which in turn allows landlords to squeeze tennant much harder.  Dec 01 07:17
techrights-sec3There's also a high threshold to cross before one can even think of owning, Dec 01 07:29
techrights-sec3these days.  Several generations back, it was merely a matter of priorities Dec 01 07:29
techrights-sec3and interest.  Now, there's a lot of luck including being somewhat well offDec 01 07:29
techrights-sec3to begin with.  Dec 01 07:29
techrights-sec3Something about GNOME: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/11/30/0439223Dec 01 07:29
schestowitz-pii finished uni 20.5 years agoDec 01 07:31
schestowitz-piif employment and rent conditions were like theseDec 01 07:31
schestowitz-pinot sure where i would beDec 01 07:31
schestowitz-pii got a job offer in london, turned it downDec 01 07:31
schestowitz-pihad things been this bad, maybe i'd not do phd etcDec 01 07:31
techrights-sec3PhD is problematic in the US, as one often has student loans to get thatDec 01 07:36
techrights-sec3far.  While PhD work is funded, the debt is there and acruing interest, theDec 01 07:36
techrights-sec3payments are suspended while working on a PhD but the interest is notDec 01 07:36
techrights-sec3so after 5 - 7 years of not paying *any* on even the principle, you are smackedDec 01 07:36
techrights-sec3with a *giant* lump of debt.  Unless you are independently wealthy, itDec 01 07:36
techrights-sec3is infeasible to pay the student debt while working towards a PhD.  NowadaysDec 01 07:36
techrights-sec3most post-doc positions are effectively minimum wage anyways.  Dec 01 07:36
schestowitz-pithe GNOME news does not strike me as worrisome, unlike GAFAM moneyDec 01 07:39
schestowitz-pior if they sponsored something malignant like DRMDec 01 07:39
schestowitz-pii saw some youtube videos about phds in the us around 2006Dec 01 07:39
schestowitz-pipeople who were very stressed and rushed to finish it (debt)Dec 01 07:39
schestowitz-pii asked harbvey, his son, his friend and some old friend of mine whether to do the degree or take the job, made lots of notes at the time (latex)Dec 01 07:39
schestowitz-pigermany should invest in kde, not gnomeDec 01 07:39
schestowitz-pimaybe dehomag still has enough "assets" thereDec 01 07:39
techrights-sec3GNOME news is neutral.  It's probably based on 20+ year old opinions othewiseDec 01 07:41
techrights-sec3they would have gone for XFCE or KDE support.  +1 supporting a FOSS Dec 01 07:41
techrights-sec3desktop, -1 its GNOMEDec 01 07:41
schestowitz-pigermany could instead "sponsor" 10 "asylum seekers" at 100k apieceDec 01 07:41
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techrights-sec3A stateside PhD was out because of debt in my case, a EU PhD would have beenDec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3unuseful due to the impending Bologne Treaty which gutted EU universities'Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3ability to do research and retooled them for massive administrative overheadDec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3as the first priority.  Development and investing in spinoffs was second       Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3priority, then realestate,  distant fourth and fifth place would be teaching Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3or research.Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3For each "asylum seeker" aka moslem insurgent, the EU should increase Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3contributions to the defence of Ukraine by 50k or 100k each time, and issueDec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3a press release, each time.  Putin would stop sending them acros the Mediterrannean quickly even if other groups are partially involved.  \Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3The EU would be better off investing in infrastructure than wasting good money  Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3on m$ products.  Zimbra and KDE should be getting lots of money from the EU Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3if it weren't for the corruption in Germany, Finland, and several other places.  Dec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3It doesn't help either that Bill Gates personally invented The InternetDec 01 07:45
techrights-sec3in Sweden in 1998 with his bare hands.  Dec 01 07:45
schestowitz-piwhen henry k was the president of swedenDec 01 07:46
techrights-sec3  That make m$ purchases almost a      Dec 01 07:47
techrights-sec3patriotic obligation.  Dec 01 07:47
techrights-sec3I donated to IA and another project again this year.  Dec 01 07:47
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> "York: What does free expression mean to you?" York does not understand free speech; she attacks it when it suits her agenda β˜› https://www.eff.org/pages/speaking-freely-ron-deibert | Source: EFFDec 01 07:48
techrights-sec3The EFF has lost its way and sometimes runs counter to its original charter.Dec 01 07:49
techrights-sec3Did the ~links/Daily_Links/ready file work today?Dec 01 07:49
schestowitz-piyes, i saw the change within minsDec 01 07:51
techrights-sec3ExcellentDec 01 07:51
schestowitz-pitoday will be slower newsDec 01 07:51
schestowitz-pii will prioritise healthDec 01 07:51
schestowitz-pilater we run in subzero temps, stop by some shop, feed water birds, rianne is afk 8 hours till 10pmDec 01 07:51
techrights-sec3Nice breakDec 01 07:52
techrights-sec3If the temps are lower than -15C then you should have a scarf or filter overDec 01 07:52
techrights-sec3the mouth to moderate the incoming air's temperature.   Dec 01 07:52
schestowitz-piit is -1Dec 01 07:53
schestowitz-piwe have good attire for thisDec 01 07:53
schestowitz-pibut the goal is to feed the bird while the canal has a crust of iceDec 01 07:53
techrights-sec3Only -1 C is a comfortable temperature for a lot of activity.Dec 01 08:01
techrights-sec3Ice is too thin at that temp, unless part of a retirement plan like in the  Dec 01 08:01
techrights-sec3old days.  What kind of grains do you have for the birds?Dec 01 08:01
techrights-sec3The letsencrypt certificate ought to self-renew via cron but there mightDec 01 08:01
techrights-sec3be a symlink for IRCd or something which will need moving.  Dec 01 08:01
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Gaslighting in oligarchs-owned media won't pacify the population but instead enrage it. The people will realise the media is "enemy" and in turn turn to more radical sources with more absurd views. Then the media will shout "DISINFORMATION" and nobody will listen. Because it already lost its credibility and audience.Dec 01 08:08
schestowitz-piBillBC ^Dec 01 08:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  GNU Taler v0.9.3 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/GNU_Taler_v0_9_3_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/GNU_Taler_v0_9_3_released.gmi ∎Dec 01 08:23
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techrights-sec3back in some hoursDec 01 08:45
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Raspberry Pi Stories, Projects, Hacks (Including Raspberry Pi 5) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Raspberry_Pi_Stories_Projects_Hacks_Including_Raspberry_Pi_5.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Raspberry_Pi_Stories_Projects_Hacks_Including_Raspberry_Pi_5.gmi ∎Dec 01 09:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Linux Devices and Open Hardware/Modding ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Linux_Devices_and_Open_Hardware_Modding.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Linux_Devices_and_Open_Hardware_Modding.gmi ∎Dec 01 09:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 01 09:18
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/today_s_leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 01 09:20
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Security, Chatbots (Spybots), and Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_Chatbots_Spybots_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_Chatbots_Spybots_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Dec 01 09:23
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 01/12/2023: Google Invokes Antitrust Against Microsoft ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Links_01_12_2023_Google_Invokes_Antitrust_Against_Microsoft.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Links_01_12_2023_Google_Invokes_Antitrust_Against_Microsoft.gmi ∎Dec 01 09:24
schestowitz-pia mix of 7 seeds todayDec 01 09:29
schestowitz-piback in2 horusDec 01 09:29
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schestowitz-pibackDec 01 10:41
schestowitz-pii think thinking, re rent and buysDec 01 10:41
schestowitz-pisimple case, 100k home Dec 01 10:41
schestowitz-pior 100k in savings account at 5-6%Dec 01 10:41
schestowitz-pipeople would rather sell and just save the money, no hassle from tenantsDec 01 10:41
schestowitz-picatalyst2 sent price hikes message at the same time, they're part of the same groupDec 01 10:41
schestowitz-picatalys2 is very good and their price changes have little impact on meDec 01 10:41
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Android_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 01 11:49
techrights-newsTTAB Posts December 2023 Hearing Schedule ☞ http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/11/ttab-posts-december-2023-hearing.htmlDec 01 11:58
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Godot 4.2 arrives in style! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Godot_4_2_arrives_in_style.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Godot_4_2_arrives_in_style.gmi ∎Dec 01 12:03
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techrights-newsTechrights – Just Like Its Budget Allocation, the Linux Foundation Devotes About 3% Of Its Latest Newsletter to Linux, Devotes More to Linux's Rivals ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Just_Like_Its_Budget_Allocation_the_Linux_Foundation_Devotes_Ab.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Just_Like_Its_Budget_Allocation_the_Linux_Foundation_Devotes_Ab.gmi ∎Dec 01 13:17
techrights-sec3backDec 01 13:18
techrights-sec3Snowden is between a rock and a hard place: Dec 01 13:18
techrights-sec3https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/29/foreigners-entering-russia-could-be-forced-to-sign-loyalty-pledgeDec 01 13:18
techrights-sec3grauniadDec 01 13:18
schestowitz-pibill's guardian is done milking snowdenDec 01 13:19
schestowitz-pisnowden has meat on itDec 01 13:19
schestowitz-pi"where's the beef?" (for filler)Dec 01 13:19
techrights-sec3There needs to be a classification or certification of groups to see ifDec 01 13:19
techrights-sec3they qualify as a religion: The Russian Orthodox "Church" is no moreDec 01 13:19
techrights-sec3than an arm of the FSB: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-patriarch-kirill-dying-ukraine-sins/32052380.htmlDec 01 13:19
schestowitz-pirms gives too much credit to grauniadDec 01 13:20
schestowitz-pigives it tons of traffic tooDec 01 13:20
schestowitz-piwent on alex jones and on RT several timesDec 01 13:20
techrights-sec3I ignore the grauniad for the most part.  That was such bad judgement on Dec 01 13:22
techrights-sec3the part of RMS in both cases AJ /and/ RT.  The interviewer on RT was neitherDec 01 13:22
techrights-sec3knowledgeable about nor interested in *any* aspect of RMS' message of Dec 01 13:22
techrights-sec3software freedom and needled him incessantly in hopes of getting an anti-USDec 01 13:22
techrights-sec3sound bite to reuse later.  Dec 01 13:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Dec 01 13:25
schestowitz-pimaybe like stalin and paul robesonDec 01 13:41
schestowitz-pito help rile up blacks in the usDec 01 13:41
techrights-sec3It was rathe a shameful interview on RT.  Yes, and it is garbage.  I was Dec 01 13:42
techrights-sec3sad that RMS accepted an 'interview' there.  Dec 01 13:42
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schestowitz-pirt is funded by the stateDec 01 13:43
schestowitz-pithe state wants something in returnDec 01 13:43
schestowitz-piif you are not paid to appear on RTDec 01 13:43
schestowitz-pithen you are the productDec 01 13:43
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Proprietary Software: Microsoft's Tax Crimes and the Risk of SaaS ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Proprietary_Software_Microsoft_s_Tax_Crimes_and_the_Risk_of_Saa.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Proprietary_Software_Microsoft_s_Tax_Crimes_and_the_Risk_of_Saa.gmi ∎Dec 01 13:50
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Open Hardware/Modding: NUCDeck, Embedded Development, RISC-V, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Open_Hardware_Modding_NUCDeck_Embedded_Development_RISC_V.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Open_Hardware_Modding_NUCDeck_Embedded_Development_RISC_V.gmi ∎Dec 01 13:55
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Canonical/Ubuntu: VMs, Retro, Hype, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Canonical_Ubuntu_VMs_Retro_Hype_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Canonical_Ubuntu_VMs_Retro_Hype_and_More.gmi ∎Dec 01 13:58
techrights-sec3joe Haldeman wrote a bookDec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3"The Forever War" back in 1974 and the protagonist travels great leapsDec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3forward in time due to relativistic effects of space travel.  On one Dec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3return to Earth, he is 'interviewed' but puzzled by why the interviewerDec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3can't be bothered to listen to his answered and asks a lot of non-sequitors.Dec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3When he sees the broadcast interview, his portion of it was 100% what wouldDec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3nowadays be called deep fake and the fake interview just spewed propaganda.Dec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3The RT "interview" of RMS was before deep fakes, but nonetheless thoroughlyDec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3insincere from their part.  Dec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3It's good that you had the wisdom to turn them down.  There's no way that couldDec 01 13:59
techrights-sec3have turned out well in any way, shape, or form.  Dec 01 13:59
schestowitz-piyou take screenshots of people on PressTV (Tehran) or RTDec 01 14:00
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Mozilla: Firefox in Mozilla’s .deb Package, Tecken, and Servo ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Mozilla_Firefox_in_Mozilla_s_deb_Package_Tecken_and_Servo.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Mozilla_Firefox_in_Mozilla_s_deb_Package_Tecken_and_Servo.gmi ∎Dec 01 14:00
schestowitz-piand no need to add any words to that..Dec 01 14:00
schestowitz-pi"doping" - getting ahead by doing what's obviously harmful:Dec 01 14:12
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> The openwashing and lies, TFiR. Clickfraud Spamnil is full of BS, helps a bunch of charlatans spread propaganda and buzzwords. This isDec 01 14:12
schestowitz-pi what people do on the WWW these days...Dec 01 14:12
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Many sociopaths create nothing of their own and instead just infiltrate, like some parasite, a government or government- or (bank-) coDec 01 14:12
schestowitz-pinnected company, one that need not even be profitable, for taxpayers will subsidise itDec 01 14:12
schestowitz-pi^zemlinDec 01 14:12
techrights-sec3there was nothing to gain (from the perspective of promoting the kernel) Dec 01 14:18
techrights-sec3by eliminating the writers from linux.com, their salaries were small comparedDec 01 14:18
techrights-sec3to income and a good ROI if promoting Linux was a goal.   Dec 01 14:18
schestowitz-piyes, see latest in trDec 01 14:19
techrights-sec3I should figure out how to use GNU Taler, even if just on principle.Dec 01 14:19
techrights-sec3checkingDec 01 14:19
techrights-sec3? https://techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/New_Report_Provides_Numerical_Evidence_That_Google_Hired_Too_Ma.shtmlDec 01 14:19
techrights-sec3or another one?Dec 01 14:19
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Just_Like_Its_Budget_Allocation_the_Linux_Foundation_Devotes_Ab.shtmlDec 01 14:20
schestowitz-piyou might say it is shortDec 01 14:24
schestowitz-pibut rianne sees it as concise and suits attention spanDec 01 14:24
schestowitz-pii use alt appropriately for geminiDec 01 14:24
schestowitz-pii no longer add anything to 'wiki' pagesDec 01 14:24
schestowitz-piand that actually spares me more timeDec 01 14:24
schestowitz-piwe can do them better, over the years, a la PRWatchDec 01 14:24
schestowitz-piwhich afaik is defunct now, but was esccellentDec 01 14:24
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techrights-sec3btw the red circle obscures the numbersDec 01 14:57
techrights-sec3checkingDec 01 14:57
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Everything up for sale, even the country's (i.e. collectively the citizens') assets ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20062880Dec 01 15:10
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- yle.fi | Nationwide competition emerging in Finland’s commuter rail services | Yle News | YleDec 01 15:10
schestowitz-piFinlandia book prizes: Intense family tales and youthful fantasy-horror ? https://yle.fi/a/74-20062918Dec 01 15:14
schestowitz-piHelsinki's flagship library Oodi celebrates 5th anniversary ? https://yle.fi/a/74-20062951Dec 01 15:14
schestowitz-pi^ feels like "filler"Dec 01 15:14
schestowitz-pinot important on a national levelDec 01 15:14
techrights-sec3It's not competition but a race to the bottom and a balkanization of services.Dec 01 15:15
techrights-sec3The word 'competition' is misapplied and more or less a lie meaning insteadDec 01 15:15
techrights-sec3a local monopoly. Dec 01 15:15
techrights-sec3        Dec 01 15:15
schestowitz-piYle = https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/SchadenfreudeDec 01 15:17
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Debian Family: FLOSS Activities, New Debian Developers, and Junichi Uekawa Does Tea ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Debian_Family_FLOSS_Activities_New_Debian_Developers_and_Junich.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Debian_Family_FLOSS_Activities_New_Debian_Developers_and_Junich.gmi ∎Dec 01 15:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Dec 01 15:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 01 15:59
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi ∎Dec 01 16:00
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 01/12/2023: Facebook Infested With Malicious Campaigns by Imposters, ACLU Gives Advice on Doxxing and Online Harassment ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Links_01_12_2023_Facebook_Infested_With_Malicious_Campaigns_by_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/Links_01_12_2023_Facebook_Infested_With_Malicious_Campaigns_by_.gmi ∎Dec 01 16:03
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techrights-sec3French?Dec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3The Poettering-driven merge of /usr/bin and /bin is going to cause a Dec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3tremendous amount of further damage to both the technological base asDec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3well as the community and add a lot of unnecessary effort.Dec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3^ topic ?Dec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3" The collapse of Debian "Dec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/the-collapse-of-debian-4175731419/#9Dec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3there is a good three point summary further down on the first page,Dec 01 21:26
techrights-sec3^ topic ?Dec 01 21:26
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Databases: Pgpool-II Releases, PostgreSQL Conference Germany 2024, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Databases_Pgpool_II_Releases_PostgreSQL_Conference_Germany_2024.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Databases_Pgpool_II_Releases_PostgreSQL_Conference_Germany_2024.gmi ∎Dec 01 21:47
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Proprietary Dangers, Openwashing, and Microsoft ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Proprietary_Dangers_Openwashing_and_Microsoft.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/Proprietary_Dangers_Openwashing_and_Microsoft.gmi ∎Dec 01 23:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  CentOS's November 2023 Newsletter and Fedora Magazine on β€˜rpm-ostree search’ ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/CentOS_s_November_2023_Newsletter_and_Fedora_Magazine_on_rpm_os.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/01/CentOS_s_November_2023_Newsletter_and_Fedora_Magazine_on_rpm_os.gmi ∎Dec 01 23:21
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