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techrights-newsLinuxToday (or Linux Today) Shows Signs of Agony | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/05/linuxtoday-sells-webspam/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/05/linuxtoday-sells-webspam/Aug 06 01:11
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techrights-news#HowTo Keep SSH Terminal Session Alive in Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168065Aug 06 07:12
techrights-newsUpdate #10: Still happening… for nearly a week already. http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/Aug 06 07:17
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168066https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_howtos.gmiAug 06 07:49
techrights-newsIn Africa, Android is More Than Three Times Bigger Than Microsoft Windows | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/06/africa-android-and-windows-market-share/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/06/africa-android-and-windows-market-share/Aug 06 08:21
Techrights-sec2otr: sometime in the next week I will try changing over the routersAug 06 09:25
Techrights-sec2otr: it will necessitate some down time but hopefully not more than a fewAug 06 09:25
Techrights-sec2otr: minutesAug 06 09:25
Techrights-sec2otr s, the router seems to draw 0.11 A while booting, and drops downAug 06 09:29
Techrights-sec2otr: to 0.07 A while idling, that's good but could be betterAug 06 09:29
Techrights-sec2otr: packet filter rules on the old router were ~ 150 lines including Aug 06 09:32
Techrights-sec2otr: commentsAug 06 09:32
Techrights-sec2otr: 101 actual rulesAug 06 09:37
Techrights-sec2otr: in panama there were frequent outages and worse was when theAug 06 09:58
Techrights-sec2otr: reserve generators came in out of phase.  That could explode old-styleAug 06 09:58
Techrights-sec2otr: incandescent light bulbsAug 06 09:58
Techrights-sec2otr: I thought we had four IPv4 addresses here, but I cannot get a connectinoAug 06 09:58
Techrights-sec2otr: on the third port, I will have to try unplugging the wireless -- laterAug 06 09:58
Techrights-sec2otr: I'm still wondering about the origins of "security theatre"Aug 06 10:03
Techrights-sec2orr: I first saw it on /. in 02 or 01Aug 06 10:03
Techrights-sec2otr: schneier popularized it but it came from someone else probablyAug 06 10:03
Techrights-sec2otr: I'm still wondering about the origins of "security theatre"Aug 06 10:04
Techrights-sec2orr: I first saw it on /. in 02 or 01Aug 06 10:04
Techrights-sec2otr: schneier popularized it but it came from someone else probablyAug 06 10:04
Techrights-sec2otr: he was probably on /. but maybe not the originator of the termAug 06 10:08
Techrights-sec2biabAug 06 10:18
techrights-newsThis week in KDE: Easier Samba sharing setup • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168067https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/This_week_in_KDE_Easier_Samba_sharing_setup.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/This_week_in_KDE_Easier_Samba_sharing_setup.gmiAug 06 10:24
techrights-news17 Best Free and Open Source Linux Task Managers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168068https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/17_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Task_Managers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/17_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Task_Managers.gmiAug 06 10:24
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168069https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.gmiAug 06 10:24
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Friday, August 05, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/06/irc-log-050822/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/06/irc-log-050822/Aug 06 10:26
Techrights-sec2backAug 06 10:27
Techrights-sec2otr: the router seems to draw 6 W most of the time, I guess that it tolerableAug 06 10:30
Techrights-sec2otr: but still seems like a heavy loadAug 06 10:30
schestowitz-TRfor one person using it most of the time (I assume others barely use it) it seems like little bang for the buck (energy bills) tbhAug 06 10:30
schestowitz-TRdepending on use case you might be better off with a splitter that splits off to multiple long ethernet cablesAug 06 10:33
schestowitz-TRwe have one very long ethernet cable for the cisco ip phone upstairs.... must be far away from router and has no ports or network access methodAug 06 10:33
schestowitz-TRI've managed to 'hide' it by putting it behind furniture and inside white duck tape along walls and ceilingAug 06 10:33
schestowitz-TRnot sure is 12m or 15mAug 06 10:33
schestowitz-TRmy sister bought it for me ages agoAug 06 10:33
Techrights-sec2otr: perhaps, but it allows me to host things, such as this connection to ytalk,Aug 06 10:34
Techrights-sec2otr: and self-host web and other services.Aug 06 10:34
Techrights-sec2otr: that would be a hub and that would use about as much currentAug 06 10:34
Techrights-sec2otr: I could run 4 devices off the back of the proprietary wi-fi unit, butAug 06 10:34
Techrights-sec2otr: that would not give me much of any control over the LAN just passAug 06 10:34
Techrights-sec2otr: through to a single device per serviceAug 06 10:34
schestowitz-TRoh, so one one main user, heavy user, plus more connecting from the outside over wwww and me over sshAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRso I guess the 6 watts are worth itAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRsome homes are all just "data conenction" (phone) and require neigher a phone line nor cabled connectionAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRI don't envy them, for all sorts of reasondsAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRtethering sucksAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRthey also end up paying more... for lessAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRrianne still has a samsung s2Aug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRit has not been on a network for yearsAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRbut it can connect to wifiAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRand is used as out "camera"Aug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRe.g. for her ebay shop (she delivered 2 items yesterdat)Aug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRno phone number, just a little portable camera that can check email over wifi and carry recipes aroundAug 06 10:38
schestowitz-TRit is older than the marriageAug 06 10:38
Techrights-sec2otr: I could, in principle, have some of the services hosted by a hostingAug 06 10:39
Techrights-sec2otr: provider, but again I would lose a lot of flexibility and probably   Aug 06 10:39
Techrights-sec2otr: privacy as wellAug 06 10:39
Techrights-sec2ackAug 06 10:39
techrights-newsGames: Proton, Steam, Godot Engine, RPCS3, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168070https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Games_Proton_Steam_Godot_Engine_RPCS3_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Games_Proton_Steam_Godot_Engine_RPCS3_and_More.gmiAug 06 10:44
Techrights-sec2ackAug 06 10:45
Techrights-sec2otr: I'm in the middle, not good at either programming (really bad aside from Aug 06 10:45
Techrights-sec2otr: a tiny handful of high-level languages) or at system administrationAug 06 10:45
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Techrights-sec2otr: I got a spare RPi400, and set it up with Swedish/Finnish key caps,Aug 06 11:19
Techrights-sec2otr: to lend to some people but I haven't seen either of them for years nowAug 06 11:19
Techrights-sec2otr: so the board is sitting here going to waste until I can either get inAug 06 11:20
Techrights-sec2otr: contact or find another use Aug 06 11:20
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Techrights-sec2backAug 06 12:13
Techrights-sec2otr: the core system with basic mods are working now on the router,Aug 06 12:13
Techrights-sec2otr: I've spend only a little time on it so far, OpenBSD is so easyAug 06 12:13
Techrights-sec2otr: they work people as wage slaves so they cannot have time to breast feedAug 06 12:36
Techrights-sec2otr: and thus become dependent on the formula.  It's not a primary goal butAug 06 12:36
Techrights-sec2otr: one of many "perks" which the oligarchy sees from renting such slavesAug 06 12:36
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Techrights-sec2otr: I read that the headwaters of the Thames have dried up Aug 06 12:52
techrights-newsAs Lennart Moves to His ’Mother Ship’ (Microsoft), Will Devuan Become the ‘New Debian’? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/06/pivot-away-from-systemd/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/06/pivot-away-from-systemd/Aug 06 13:44
Techrights-sec2otr: minor maintenance eta 2 minAug 06 13:51
Techrights-sec2back?Aug 06 14:31
Techrights-sec2yepAug 06 14:31
Techrights-sec2otr: on the new router, due to some mishap in what should have been a routineAug 06 14:32
Techrights-sec2otr: rebootAug 06 14:32
Techrights-sec2otr: no idea; I don't read his site; I'm sure he's fine onlineAug 06 15:06
Techrights-sec2otr: he seemed kind of dickish in person, but then most people at thatAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: conference came off like that even the one or two I had met previouslyAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: who were ok the first meeting; there was also a lot of scheming goingAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: on behind the scenes because that was when they all met and made theAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: plans for LibreOffice while excluding as many people as they couldAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: btw I had to whip up a very quick set of packet filter rules  Aug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: seeing as ytalk still works, the rule set functionsAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: I'm going to have to move the power plug to a physically more stableAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: location but that can wait until some quiet period, perhaps tomorrow AMAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: the new router has the Ethernet LEDs on the bottom so they are obscuredAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr; by the cables so I can't see which are activeAug 06 15:11
Techrights-sec2otr: italo seemed to talk like a bot: afew words now and then without contextAug 06 15:16
Techrights-sec2otr: or meaning or relevance; he was there tooAug 06 15:16
Techrights-sec2otr: just a sec the old Ethernet cable is way to short and will break somethingAug 06 15:16
Techrights-sec2otr: unless I replace it.Aug 06 15:16
Techrights-sec2otr: I don't think I met stafano there but he could have been presentAug 06 15:16
Techrights-sec2otr: many of the "sessions" at that conference had only one (me) or two   Aug 06 15:16
Techrights-sec2otr: people in the audience besides the presenter; I could smell the bullshitAug 06 15:16
Techrights-sec2otr: but had no idea about what was actually going onAug 06 15:16
techrights-newsFree software grows as a function of social utility • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168071https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Free_software_grows_as_a_function_of_social_utility.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Free_software_grows_as_a_function_of_social_utility.gmiAug 06 15:26
techrights-newsOld-school technical writing with groff • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168072https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Old_school_technical_writing_with_groff.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Old_school_technical_writing_with_groff.gmiAug 06 15:27
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168073https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_howtos.1.gmiAug 06 15:27
techrights-newsLinks 06/08/2022: New in KDE and New Games | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/06/new-in-kde/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/06/new-in-kde/Aug 06 15:46
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168074https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Programming_Leftovers.gmiAug 06 15:47
techrights-newsDevices and Open Hardware Projects • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168075https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/.gmiAug 06 15:48
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168076https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_leftovers.gmiAug 06 15:48
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Techrights-sec2otr: gonna move some cables, hopefully it won't take too long  biabAug 06 17:17
techrights-news5 Ways to Fix Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock Error in Ubuntu • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168077Aug 06 17:18
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techrights-newsNetBSD 9.3 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168078https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/NetBSD_9_3_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/NetBSD_9_3_released.gmiAug 06 17:45
techrights-news10+ Things I Love About Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168079https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/10_Things_I_Love_About_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/10_Things_I_Love_About_Linux.gmiAug 06 17:45
techrights-newsRaspberry Pi Projects and News • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168080https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Raspberry_Pi_Projects_and_News.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Raspberry_Pi_Projects_and_News.gmiAug 06 18:12
Techrights-sec2otr: Charles was kind of neutral but standoffish there when I met himAug 06 18:14
Techrights-sec2otr: he wrote inviting me to LO after it was a done deal. Later when I     Aug 06 18:14
Techrights-sec2otr: congratulated him on his child, he never wrote back.   He disappearedAug 06 18:14
Techrights-sec2otr: altogether shortly thereafter.  Aug 06 18:14
Techrights-sec2otr: no, that's true Aug 06 18:15
Techrights-sec2otr: I've been to quite a few conferences, but not that many where I didn't speaotr: several were not good at all; there was a fake conference in Oulu whichAug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: pretended to be Linux conference but the panel was all M$ partners asAug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: were nearly all of the speakers except for one keynote, Stroustrup himselfAug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: another, which was kind of ok was in Vaasa right before M$ crushed it, thatotr: was the one where RMS broke his arm and could not attend; the news had Aug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: a long article about the weather under the title of RMS and the conferenceAug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: reading the article gave no information about the conference itself norAug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: even a hint about RMS or software freedom; The final OOo conference wasAug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: more of a shamAug 06 18:29
Techrights-sec2otr: not here; and they are stinking and uncomfortable and expensiveAug 06 18:51
Techrights-sec2otr: rhe web sites were created by M$ parter Accenture such that theyAug 06 18:51
Techrights-sec2otr: set up at Flash-based, non-functional site within 18 months of the EOLAug 06 18:51
Techrights-sec2otr: of FlashAug 06 18:51
Techrights-sec2        Aug 06 18:51
Techrights-sec2otr: I'm not sure how many years since my most recent train trip but Aug 06 18:57
Techrights-sec2otr: 2010 was the last flight, and 2008 before thatAug 06 18:57
Techrights-sec2otr: no taxi here lately either; Uber and Lyft lobbied to have the taxi Aug 06 18:57
Techrights-sec2otr: industry here killed off and it wasAug 06 18:57
Techrights-sec2otr: there are taxis but it is not a livable profession any more to drive themAug 06 18:57
Techrights-sec2otr: before you could make an acceptable living as a professional driverAug 06 18:58
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168081https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.1.gmiAug 06 18:58
techrights-newsFirefly Station M3 supports dual 8K displays and up to 16GB RAM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168069#comment-34521Aug 06 19:01
techrights-newsDECnet may be purged from Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167973#comment-34522 Microsoft is attacking Linux while also calling the shots for Linux?Aug 06 19:17
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168082https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_howtos.2.gmiAug 06 19:32
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168083https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Security_Leftovers.gmiAug 06 19:33
techrights-newsGNU/Linux Share on Desktops and Laptops Relatively High in Claimed Territories of PRC (China) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/06/prc-gnu-linux/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/06/prc-gnu-linux/Aug 06 20:02
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ts2otr: I have quite a lot of difficulty these days and hair is falling out tooAug 06 20:18
ts2otr: I used to hear like a cat and see like a hawk, the eyesight diminished Aug 06 20:20
ts2otr: quite a bit some years ago but is still better than most people'sAug 06 20:20
ts2otr: the optometrist actually gave me a hard time about the glasses, sinceAug 06 20:20
ts2otr: then I have worried about how many people I would consider to be impairedAug 06 20:20
ts2otr: may be driving on the roads Aug 06 20:20
ts2otr: screen time is damaging but LCD is far better than CRTAug 06 20:20
ts2otr: the hearing diminished suddenly 20 years ago but was still far above  Aug 06 20:20
ts2otr: average until some months agoAug 06 20:20
ts2otr: in junior high I complained about diminished eyesight but thenAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: the doctor gave no sympathy when I complained that I could no longerAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: read the bottom line of the chart from beyond the measured distanceAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: now I need my glasses to find my glasses should they be out of placeAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: I might get computer glasses next time there is a sale, I should measureAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: the distance to the screen for thatAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: I used my spare screen for the first time this summer and noticed that iAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: can no longer read it from where I sitAug 06 20:21
ts2otr: what kind? sencha?   Aug 06 20:26
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ts2otr: even at 4am ?Aug 06 21:14
techrights-newsNow it's systemd spam, fake news or webspam for a paid "placement" http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/Aug 06 21:41
techrights-newsEasyOS 32-bit Dunfell-series version 4.3.2 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168084https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/EasyOS_32_bit_Dunfell_series_version_4_3_2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/EasyOS_32_bit_Dunfell_series_version_4_3_2.gmiAug 06 22:02
techrights-newsKid3 Tag Editor Updates with DSDIFF (DFF) File Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168085https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Kid3_Tag_Editor_Updates_with_DSDIFF_DFF_File_Support.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Kid3_Tag_Editor_Updates_with_DSDIFF_DFF_File_Support.gmiAug 06 22:03
techrights-newsJust Perfection 21 GNOME Extension Brings 7 New Features • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168086https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Just_Perfection_21_GNOME_Extension_Brings_7_New_Features.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Just_Perfection_21_GNOME_Extension_Brings_7_New_Features.gmiAug 06 22:03
techrights-newsShows/Videos: RapidDisk Tutorial, Steam Deck, mintCast, and BSD Now • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168087https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Shows_Videos_RapidDisk_Tutorial_Steam_Deck_mintCast_and_BSD_Now.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Shows_Videos_RapidDisk_Tutorial_Steam_Deck_mintCast_and_BSD_Now.gmiAug 06 22:04
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techrights-newsLinks 06/08/2022: 4.3.2 EasyOS and NetBSD 9.3 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/06/netbsd-9-3/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/06/netbsd-9-3/Aug 06 22:28
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168088https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmiAug 06 22:32
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168089https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/today_s_leftovers.1.gmiAug 06 22:32
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