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schestowitzit is indeed quiet hereNov 08 00:19
schestowitzthen again, tuxmachines isn't about irc primarily, never wasNov 08 00:19
schestowitzit was to compensate for us closing sign-upsNov 08 00:19
schestowitzwhich depressed commentingNov 08 00:19
vZS1AhNov 08 00:19
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132043Nov 08 00:20
vZS1I wish I had more energy. Between the engineering and the writing, I'm drained by the end of the day.Nov 08 00:23
vZS1Otherwise I'd try to gather more people inNov 08 00:24
schestowitzneed to change the surroundings thenNov 08 00:24
vZS1Oh. It's not drained in a bad wayNov 08 00:24
vZS1It's just I have barely any juice left for the community stuffNov 08 00:24
schestowitzwriting with little audience is imperfectly a situationNov 08 00:24
schestowitzas the audience begets appetite to writeNov 08 00:25
schestowitzwithout it, sites/publishers perishNov 08 00:25
schestowitzno incentive to invest in researchNov 08 00:25
vZS1The R&D isn't an issue. Have plenty of that. Think I've just been trying to do squeeze too much into too tight a timeline.Nov 08 00:27
schestowitzI work in burstsNov 08 00:29
schestowitzlet things pile upNov 08 00:29
schestowitzthen do them in bulkNov 08 00:29
schestowitzmail, tm, tr articles etc.Nov 08 00:29
schestowitzmultitasking doesn't work, we're not round robinsNov 08 00:29
vZS1I've got one more thing to sort out. Building a simple IPFS index and RSS to go with it.Nov 08 00:31
vZS1After that it's back to the writing.Nov 08 00:31
vZS1I'm building them from scratch to keep them lean and fit-for-purpose.Nov 08 00:32
vZS1Will serve them through my Pi.Nov 08 00:32
schestowitzexcellentNov 08 00:47
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144129 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7e35005f-6e12-4a6a-815d-9dbb09fdb305]Nov 08 07:02
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: This week in KDE: The user interface improvements you’ve always wanted • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144130 [https://pleroma.site/objects/160d5273-a18e-440f-b54b-af8b0aec0fad]Nov 08 07:09
schestowitzvZS1: "We’ve made it. #tuxmachines apache logs for the week at over a gigabyte. 1068MB. An all-time record. #techrights did that for the first time (1.2GB) last year."Nov 08 07:49
vZS1Good stuffNov 08 08:01
schestowitzfrom #techrights : [07:54] <schestowitz> Seems the daily text version bulletin was requested 4,500 times this past week, Those are hits on ~/txt (not direct access to archived versions of old ones... I have not checked those and I imagine it's a lot lower)Nov 08 08:01
vZS1Isn't the text version just one big file?Nov 08 08:09
schestowitzit isNov 08 08:11
schestowitzbut it is self-containedNov 08 08:11
schestowitzand can be exported into book readers etc.Nov 08 08:11
schestowitzor emailNov 08 08:11
schestowitznow that we plan email bulletins or anythingNov 08 08:11
schestowitzthere must be external services that can convert a file to email and let one subscribe to themNov 08 08:12
schestowitzvZS1: new comment here: http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/#commentsNov 08 08:15
vZS1The banking thing is a shallow argumentNov 08 08:19
vZS1Every public key has a fingerprintNov 08 08:19
vZS1A bank can just send you a copy of the fingerprint by postNov 08 08:20
vZS1And you wait until you get thatNov 08 08:20
vZS1People still fall for phishing. If that argument was true, phishing would never happenNov 08 08:21
schestowitzfor that we need educationNov 08 08:21
schestowitznot "angry" browsersNov 08 08:21
schestowitzas they cannot keep track of all the compromised sitesNov 08 08:21
schestowitzand what they /claim/ to beNov 08 08:21
vZS1Or waitNov 08 08:22
vZS1Is a look-alike scam website called phishing too?Nov 08 08:22
vZS1I forgotNov 08 08:22
schestowitzsort ofNov 08 08:22
vZS1Those use TLS as well. And people still fall for itNov 08 08:22
schestowitzthe intention is to phish the credsNov 08 08:22
schestowitzthe compromised site can have fine certsNov 08 08:23
vZS1YepNov 08 08:23
vZS1And that's my pointNov 08 08:23
schestowitzso it even makes them look more credibileNov 08 08:23
schestowitzlocks checkNov 08 08:23
schestowitzgreen icon checkNov 08 08:23
schestowitzlogo of my bank checkNov 08 08:23
vZS1By getting people to pay attention to fingerprints, you actually make TLS usefulNov 08 08:23
schestowitzsounds legit, let's log in to deal with that scary notification I got by emailNov 08 08:24
vZS1Rn people have a false sense of security with TLSNov 08 08:24
schestowitzmybank.dotcom.defacedsite.co.uk/loginNov 08 08:24
vZS1That person is using the same argument CAs latch on toNov 08 08:25
schestowitzdefacedsite.co.uk had a super-duper awesome letsencrypt certNov 08 08:25
schestowitzand all the major browsers LOVE it!Nov 08 08:25
vZS1That people can't verify and MITMNov 08 08:25
vZS1Just send the bloody fingerprint by postNov 08 08:25
vZS1Or even betterNov 08 08:26
vZS1ActuallyNov 08 08:26
vZS1Get people to go to a branchNov 08 08:26
vZS1And get the fingerprint from thereNov 08 08:26
vZS1Then you don't worry about post interceptionNov 08 08:27
vZS1There is no MITM when you verify fingerprint in personNov 08 08:27
vZS1And that's perfectly feasible for banking, utilities, taxes, etc.Nov 08 08:28
schestowitzthey shut down so many branchesNov 08 08:30
vZS1Reject all certs by default. That's the only good security policyNov 08 08:30
schestowitzand now the queues are endlessNov 08 08:30
vZS1YepNov 08 08:32
vZS1Most news around security is security theatreNov 08 08:32
vZS1Same for privacy. GDPR being a good exampleNov 08 08:34
vZS1Look at the popups you get. The easiest button to press is "accept all"Nov 08 08:34
vZS1Very few sites offer a "reject all" next to thatNov 08 08:35
schestowitzit at least gives a change to reject and move awayNov 08 08:35
schestowitz*chanceNov 08 08:35
vZS1Yeah but that chance is buried away, usuallyNov 08 08:35
vZS1Just like accepting self-signed certsNov 08 08:35
vZS1From what I've learned from UX gurus, people will tend to click on the one-button solutionNov 08 08:36
vZS1So GDPR offers not much unless they mandate a one-click "reject all" as the first thing you see.Nov 08 08:37
vZS1But GDPR is better than nothingNov 08 08:37
vZS1But idk how they missed that detailNov 08 08:38
schestowitzackNov 08 08:38
vZS1Btw, how do you generate your text feed version?Nov 08 08:47
vZS1Do you just add new content onto the head?Nov 08 08:47
vZS1Because this would be a great thing to serve via IPFSNov 08 08:47
schestowitzit's done with bash mostlyNov 08 08:50
schestowitzI can export the file to the raspiNov 08 08:51
schestowitzto your homedirNov 08 08:51
vZS1Are the individual pieces their own file?Nov 08 08:51
schestowitznot sure what's done then, but I guess a cron job can do itNov 08 08:51
vZS1YeNov 08 08:51
vZS1I can work out the detailsNov 08 08:51
schestowitzit makes a local file, then copies it to two places on the live serverNov 08 08:51
schestowitzI typically make these after midnight unless I wrote more before 5amNov 08 08:52
schestowitzwhere to export the file to, /home/you/txt-date ?Nov 08 08:52
vZS1I could just track the hashes on both Git and IPFSNov 08 08:52
vZS1Yeah. That'll workNov 08 08:53
schestowitzlet's try...Nov 08 08:53
schestowitzhang onNov 08 08:53
vZS1I'm not on the computer now btwNov 08 08:53
schestowitzfor correct permission I may need your username's pwNov 08 08:59
schestowitzI got it scripted nowNov 08 08:59
schestowitzbut I don't want to rsync as rootNov 08 08:59
schestowitzuser "pi"Nov 08 08:59
schestowitzok, got itNov 08 09:01
schestowitzyou@Nov 08 09:01
schestowitz@raspberrypi's password:Nov 08 09:01
schestowitztechrights-2020-11-07.txt                                                                                                                        100%  190KB   1.1MB/s   00:00Nov 08 09:01
schestowitz -o IdentitiesOnly=yes $IRCDATEFILE you@raspberrypi:/home/glrNov 08 09:02
schestowitznow it's part of the daily script which I run manually from a dialog-made ncurses menu as I want manual sanity check of the input/outputNov 08 09:02
schestowitzso each day after midnight or so the daily file will be in homedir unless you want another path like ~/siteNov 08 09:03
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: This week in KDE: The user interface improvements you’ve always wanted • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144130 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2354aeae-ba6d-47b2-8c02-8751fd6e4d88]Nov 08 09:08
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144131 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8d1d4d9d-bfda-48cb-a8a4-9094213d1649]Nov 08 09:08
vZS1A dedicated directory would be preferableNov 08 09:12
vZS1That way I don't do something stupid to it by accidentNov 08 09:12
schestowitzwhat to call it?Nov 08 09:14
vZS1tr_text_version maybe?Nov 08 09:15
schestowitzokNov 08 09:15
schestowitzI'll copy across all that I have generated so farNov 08 09:15
vZS1TyNov 08 09:15
schestowitzcan you make it (the dir)?Nov 08 09:15
vZS1Gimme a secondNov 08 09:15
schestowitzso I don't have to sudo su -Nov 08 09:15
vZS1Need to boot computerNov 08 09:16
vZS1I don't leave my desktop on to save energyNov 08 09:16
vZS1Haven't gone on it yet todayNov 08 09:16
schestowitzcrated itNov 08 09:17
schestowitzcreated itNov 08 09:17
schestowitzchmod and chgrp'ed itNov 08 09:17
vZS1Ah tyNov 08 09:17
schestowitzperm 755Nov 08 09:17
vZS1That'll doNov 08 09:17
schestowitzcopied 13 filesNov 08 09:19
schestowitzthe earlier ones are 'beta'Nov 08 09:19
schestowitzthey're 644Nov 08 09:19
vZS1My idea is I'll track changes with Git. And I'll keep a log of the latest IPFS CID. You could pull the HTTP gateway version of the latest one and make sure the /txt path always points to the latest oneNov 08 09:20
schestowitzcopying across IRC logs would be super-easy tooNov 08 09:20
schestowitzthose are static alsoNov 08 09:20
vZS1Yeah.Nov 08 09:20
schestowitzshould I?Nov 08 09:20
vZS1Go aheadNov 08 09:20
schestowitzokNov 08 09:20
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vZS1I'll work on it over the weekNov 08 09:23
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vZS1I'll do a quick type-up for you to try on your desktop btw. Of IPFS. The CLI version. Just to get you up to speed with the installation and basicsNov 08 09:25
schestowitzthose are scripted now as wellNov 08 09:25
vZS1GjNov 08 09:25
schestowitzwill add those every nightNov 08 09:25
vZS1I'm working on that type up for you todayNov 08 09:25
vZS1I'll drop it in my home directory on the Pi. Will ping you when it's ready.Nov 08 09:26
schestowitzi think irc logs and daily links+articles is everythingNov 08 09:27
vZS1I'll call it something like ipfs_howto.pdfNov 08 09:27
schestowitzin compacted form, no multimedia filesNov 08 09:27
vZS1Good stuffNov 08 09:28
vZS1As always, I'll experiment locally before I hit the Pi with live systemsNov 08 09:29
vZS1your Pi*Nov 08 09:29
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vZS1BtwNov 08 09:29
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vZS1If you want to see bandwidth stats on your ipfs deployment, just su into my account and do `ipfs stats bw`Nov 08 09:30
vZS1I removed the default documentation pins to save you bandwidth. Only your content is pinned.Nov 08 09:31
vZS1Because otherwise people would pull the documentation from you as wellNov 08 09:32
vZS1Trying to be as economical as I can with your stuffNov 08 09:32
vZS1You can check pins with `ipfs pin ls`Nov 08 09:33
vZS1Right now there should only be the one object pinnedNov 08 09:33
schestowitztrying now...Nov 08 09:40
schestowitzOK, can see b/w and pinned objectsNov 08 09:42
vZS1Good stuffNov 08 09:42
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vZS1You can do `ps aux | grep ipfs` to see the daemonNov 08 09:43
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vZS1That should work as any userNov 08 09:43
schestowitz30% cpuNov 08 09:45
vZS1There's a Rust implementation of IPFS in development right now. Once that's ready we can just migrate to that. It should have much more resource efficiencyNov 08 09:46
vZS1That's pretty good for a Pi tbhNov 08 09:46
vZS1We can always limit that with a cgroupNov 08 09:47
vZS1But that's for laterNov 08 09:47
vZS1First we need to get a working systemNov 08 09:47
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vZS1I'll think about optimisation after we know exactly what our full system looks likeNov 08 09:49
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schestowitzvZS1: I will need to make a backup of the system at some pointNov 08 10:15
vZS1If you give me notice I'll make sure I log off the systemNov 08 10:16
schestowitzI can do it with usb (external), no need to disconnectNov 08 10:35
schestowitzsoldering is what will take it offline when I get a soldering gunNov 08 10:35
schestowitzafter lockdownNov 08 10:35
vZS1Makes senseNov 08 10:38
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schestowitzhttps://www.huttu.net/posts/web/Nov 08 11:24
schestowitzsomeone sent this to meNov 08 11:24
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Today’s 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144133 [https://pleroma.site/objects/61f4bcbe-cd76-433d-8bc7-e752f6971852]Nov 08 11:25
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-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Links 8/11/2020: Wine-Staging 5.21 Released and EndeavourOS Lays Out Its Vision • 🆃🅴🅲🅷🆁🅸🅶🅷🆃🆂 ☞ http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/wine-staging-5-21-released/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/820b7076-ce8d-46dd-92cf-cac7455f87da]Nov 08 11:38
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vZS1Nice setup but too many external dependencies for me. I'm not looking for a static website. I want flexible indexesNov 08 12:05
schestowitzyeah, I did not suggest we can/should emulateNov 08 12:11
schestowitzmaybe soon we can announce access method for techrights via dwebNov 08 12:11
schestowitzbbs, gopher etc. might not be a step too far away, eitherNov 08 12:12
schestowitzesp. if we have all the files statically tied or cobbled togetherNov 08 12:12
vZS1I don't think I'll have the time to do much else apart from IPFS atmNov 08 12:21
vZS1Because I've got to get back to my own stuff soonNov 08 12:21
vZS1You could announce IPFS though. But I'd wait until we have a working system first.Nov 08 12:22
vZS1Like with the little link you did in the last post. Has more impact.Nov 08 12:22
schestowitzsure, take some restNov 08 12:25
vZS1I'm doing the IPFS setup instructions now so you can get going by yourself. After that I'm going to have to head off for a while and her back to my own work. I'll ping you when I get back to working on this stuff again.Nov 08 12:30
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: KDE Kicks Off November With More Fixes, Including More Plasma Wayland Work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144130#comment-27087 [https://pleroma.site/objects/92005914-1c63-447c-89bc-2a8b988c5193]Nov 08 12:44
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144134 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b6198aa6-861d-41d0-9af1-bfce24bb0647]Nov 08 12:48
schestowitzthank you!Nov 08 13:02
vZS1schestowitz: I've finished the write-up. You should find it in my home directory on your Pi under the name "ipfs_howto.txt".Nov 08 13:30
vZS1I'm going to head offline for a while now. Might be a few days, might be more; not sure. Got a lot I'm working on. I'll drop by every now and then to check up on things. If you've got any questions, feel free to ping me on here and I'll get back to you when I canNov 08 13:31
vZS1Best wishes to everyone at TM and TRNov 08 13:31
schestowitzcheers, will check now..Nov 08 13:37
schestowitzadded 1 a dozen new objectsNov 08 13:43
schestowitze.g. https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZ3Yy7uWVtMyGfgaCQYtpcJZBxS2LoLEFZPgRSiYBF73wNov 08 13:43
schestowitzso we're live, I need to script these thingsNov 08 13:43
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schestowitzi am putting this under /tmpNov 08 18:20
schestowitzthe output filesNov 08 18:20
schestowitzEach night a new file will be generated there. The contents of this file (dated) will need to be appended to IRC posts, just beneath the typical template. This can bring the IPFS community closer to us. It's also a form of backup.Nov 08 18:20
schestowitzMore details in a coming blog post and in today's IRC logs. The output should then look something like this:Nov 08 18:20
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/11/08/irc-log-071120/Nov 08 18:20
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-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Customize Xfce Desktop for Modern Look and Productivity • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144132 [https://pleroma.site/objects/edb021f8-4632-4370-9f97-5c867af54c43]Nov 08 19:18
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-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Linux Weekly Roundup: GIMP 2.99.2, LXQt 0.16.0, Sparky Linux 5.13 and More • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144135 [https://pleroma.site/objects/709ca655-5bd5-4b63-9079-ef431b5b24f5]Nov 08 19:25
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Review: my new Desktop Computer for a GNU/Linux digital-painting workstation • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144136 [https://pleroma.site/objects/19190ab1-d3dc-42ca-bdf2-1639b6f3a143]Nov 08 19:28
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Kate is soon 20 years old! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144137 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1b2f2937-9cd4-42bf-80d4-7424f62e2342]Nov 08 19:28
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144138 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines #News [https://pleroma.site/objects/be3aaae9-b911-4357-9a7b-9ad0d9c74c23]Nov 08 19:29
vZS1A simple index with `printf "%s %s\n" ${CID} ${DESCRIPTION}`Nov 08 19:51
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Sxhkd, Boiling Steam, Do Open Source Projects Ignore You? • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144142 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d9b714b9-64cc-4238-ad11-0a86b372346a]Nov 08 22:01
-viera/#tuxmachines-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144143 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8c041f28-3a26-4a1e-a24d-af30326f7f90]Nov 08 22:03
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