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techrights-news | Techrights – Wikipedia is Vandalism, Brought to You by Microsoft and Bill Gates ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Wikipedia_is_Vandalism_Brought_to_You_by_Microsoft_and_Bill_Gat.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Wikipedia_is_Vandalism_Brought_to_You_by_Microsoft_and_Bill_Gat.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 01:36 |
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MinceR | Thought for the day: Violence solves everything. | Dec 08 01:40 |
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techrights-news | Techrights – [Video] The Next Ten Years of Techrights in a World With Changing Threats and Technological Landscapes (or Trends That Are Buzzwords/Cargo Cults) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/_Video_The_Next_Ten_Years_of_Techrights_in_a_World_With_Changin.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/_Video_The_Next_Ten_Years_of_Techrights_in_a_World_With_Changin.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 01:43 |
techrights-news | Techrights – [Video] The Media Facilitates Microsoft's Abuse, Bribes, and Growing Threats to National Security ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/_Video_The_Media_Facilitates_Microsoft_s_Abuse_Bribes_and_Growi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/_Video_The_Media_Facilitates_Microsoft_s_Abuse_Bribes_and_Growi.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 02:14 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): New systemd update will bring Windows’ infamous Blue Screen of Death to Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/New_systemd_update_will_bring_Windows_infamous_Blue_Screen_of_D.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/New_systemd_update_will_bring_Windows_infamous_Blue_Screen_of_D.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 02:16 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Microsoft: Windows Issues, Antitrust Issues, and Layoffs ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Microsoft_Windows_Issues_Antitrust_Issues_and_Layoffs.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Microsoft_Windows_Issues_Antitrust_Issues_and_Layoffs.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 02:24 |
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techrights-news | Techrights – IRC Proceedings: Thursday, December 07, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/irc-log-071223.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/irc-log-071223.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 02:46 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 03:28 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> Finland ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/12/06/russia-reportedly-arresting-migrants-attempting-to-enter-finland-and-recruiting-them-into-army-under-threat-of-deportation | Source: Meduza | Dec 08 03:34 |
schestowitz-pi | -TechPolBot/#techpol- meduza.io | Russia reportedly arresting migrants attempting to enter Finland and recruiting them into army under threat of deportation — Meduza | Dec 08 03:34 |
techrights-sec3 | "I wrote to the editors..." editors of what? I cannot guess from the list of | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | names, so I presume most TR readers need some context about which site has | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | been shut down or possibly defunded. | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | The danish koran law is nothing more nothing less than outright appeasement, | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | and where that inevitably heads is well known. | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | CRA went through. mixed bag | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | ^ topic ? | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | today there was a very good harvest of (mostly) top quality links. it might | Dec 08 03:35 |
techrights-sec3 | be ok to spread them over two days. | Dec 08 03:35 |
schestowitz-pi | i intentionally did not name the site | Dec 08 03:36 |
schestowitz-pi | and it says why | Dec 08 03:36 |
schestowitz-pi | maybe they will reply eventually | Dec 08 03:36 |
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schestowitz-pi | snowden is in serious trouble, as the catspaw will be spared being sent to the frontline as long as putin benefits | Dec 08 03:43 |
schestowitz-pi | i hardly know anything about CRA | Dec 08 03:43 |
techrights-sec3 | Has he been drafted now? | Dec 08 03:44 |
techrights-sec3 | CRA is important for digital rights or the lack thereof, especially in | Dec 08 03:44 |
techrights-sec3 | regards to software freedom. | Dec 08 03:44 |
schestowitz-pi | ok, so fsf should write somethingn | Dec 08 03:46 |
schestowitz-pi | 10+ staff | Dec 08 03:46 |
schestowitz-pi | so many compromised orgs | Dec 08 03:46 |
schestowitz-pi | i would not trust what they say | Dec 08 03:46 |
schestowitz-pi | need to read it for myself | Dec 08 03:46 |
schestowitz-pi | can take hours | Dec 08 03:46 |
schestowitz-pi | eff says "VICTORY!" to red china handing out skinnerboxes to usian kids | Dec 08 03:46 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Raspberry Pi OS Gets New Dark GTK Theme, Better Raspberry Pi 5 Support ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/06/Raspberry_Pi_OS_Gets_New_Dark_GTK_Theme_Better_Raspberry_Pi_5_S.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/06/Raspberry_Pi_OS_Gets_New_Dark_GTK_Theme_Better_Raspberry_Pi_5_S.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 03:49 |
techrights-sec3 | EFF praises tools of cultural genocide. :/ | Dec 08 03:49 |
schestowitz-pi | our household income is double this month | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | eff has over a million bucks | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | to wank over | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | blogging does not take much work | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | and has good effect | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | maybe they are paralysed | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | maybe they might use an erronerous pronoun or somethinhg | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | eff has over a million bucks | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | i meant FSF! | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | sorry | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | big budget diff | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | EFF is very rich | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | and lobbies for the rich | Dec 08 03:51 |
schestowitz-pi | craigslist, google etc | Dec 08 03:51 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: RISC-V, Orange Pi, Raspberry Pi, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Orange_Pi_Raspberry_Pi_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Orange_Pi_Raspberry_Pi_and_More.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 03:55 |
schestowitz-pi | (rianne sold 5 sensodyne last night, we'll donate 5 to the orphan elephants this weekend) | Dec 08 03:56 |
schestowitz-pi | today i am mostly catching up with links, starting from way behind | Dec 08 03:56 |
schestowitz-pi | but my routines improved, esp. how to cluster links for TM - when, how, etc. | Dec 08 03:56 |
schestowitz-pi | as news that merits _FRONT PAGE_ is becoming extinct | Dec 08 03:56 |
schestowitz-pi | "gemini.techrights.org: 9999 URLs | Dec 08 04:04 |
schestowitz-pi | * gemini.omarpolo.com: 9999 URLs | Dec 08 04:04 |
schestowitz-pi | * gemini.tuxmachines.org: 9999 URLs" | Dec 08 04:04 |
schestowitz-pi | //gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Dec 08 04:04 |
schestowitz-pi | back on top, after 2 months of ~2% of requests failing | Dec 08 04:04 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Native GNU/Linux Clients, Godot Engine, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Games_Native_GNU_Linux_Clients_Godot_Engine_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Games_Native_GNU_Linux_Clients_Godot_Engine_and_More.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 04:14 |
schestowitz-pi | btw, i am now using barrier with keyboard a lot more | Dec 08 04:19 |
schestowitz-pi | found many tricks | Dec 08 04:19 |
techrights-sec3 | Thanks again for helping debug the Gemini failure. Fixing that helped a lot | Dec 08 04:20 |
techrights-sec3 | with the ranking. :) | Dec 08 04:20 |
techrights-sec3 | There are a lot of keyboard shortcuts in most DEs | Dec 08 04:20 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): BSD: Investing in FreeBSD, HBA for FreeBSD ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/BSD_Investing_in_FreeBSD_HBA_for_FreeBSD.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/BSD_Investing_in_FreeBSD_HBA_for_FreeBSD.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 04:20 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu Blog: Corporate Stuff and Buzzwords ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Canonical_Ubuntu_Blog_Corporate_Stuff_and_Buzzwords.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Canonical_Ubuntu_Blog_Corporate_Stuff_and_Buzzwords.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 04:20 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Systemd 255 Released: A Major Update for Linux Systems ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Systemd_255_Released_A_Major_Update_for_Linux_Systems.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Systemd_255_Released_A_Major_Update_for_Linux_Systems.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 04:21 |
schestowitz-pi | these are not in the DE | Dec 08 04:21 |
schestowitz-pi | but now i can post clusters in TM without touching the mouse much | Dec 08 04:22 |
schestowitz-pi | it's a long process otherwise | Dec 08 04:22 |
schestowitz-pi | btw, what is the new type: | Dec 08 04:22 |
schestowitz-pi | Choose: Some of the latest articles, news, original | Dec 08 04:22 |
schestowitz-pi | i have not used the first yet | Dec 08 04:22 |
schestowitz-pi | don't want to accomodate with "wrong" db rows | Dec 08 04:22 |
techrights-sec3 | Linus' father has an odd and uninformed voting record in regards to ICT and | Dec 08 04:24 |
techrights-sec3 | is political career. | Dec 08 04:24 |
techrights-sec3 | news is for links and quote in TM, the usual copypasta blurb | Dec 08 04:24 |
techrights-sec3 | original is for stuff that you or rianne compose yourselves. | Dec 08 04:24 |
techrights-sec3 | I guess someone added articles, which is fine, so if that is what you | Dec 08 04:24 |
techrights-sec3 | have decided on instead of 'news' then roll with that. | Dec 08 04:24 |
schestowitz-pi | oh, wait | Dec 08 04:25 |
schestowitz-pi | so maybe it's my fault | Dec 08 04:25 |
schestowitz-pi | for adding "Some of the latest articles" | Dec 08 04:25 |
schestowitz-pi | in the wrong field | Dec 08 04:25 |
techrights-sec3 | It does not matter as long as the usage is consitant, but the CSS exists only | Dec 08 04:26 |
techrights-sec3 | for 'news' and 'original' so far. | Dec 08 04:26 |
techrights-sec3 | I think that can be corrected through a simple edit | Dec 08 04:26 |
techrights-sec3 | If not, there is always SQL | Dec 08 04:26 |
schestowitz-pi | leave as is for now | Dec 08 04:27 |
schestowitz-pi | we have 5 types of posts | Dec 08 04:27 |
schestowitz-pi | clusters | Dec 08 04:27 |
schestowitz-pi | today in TR | Dec 08 04:27 |
schestowitz-pi | original | Dec 08 04:27 |
schestowitz-pi | news | Dec 08 04:27 |
schestowitz-pi | and another i forgot | Dec 08 04:27 |
schestowitz-pi | so there is room for future (re)partitioning | Dec 08 04:27 |
techrights-sec3 | Ok, CSS can be added once the other categories are in use | Dec 08 04:28 |
schestowitz-pi | that is elegantly done, thanks | Dec 08 04:29 |
schestowitz-pi | and readers can tweak their own css | Dec 08 04:29 |
schestowitz-pi | e.g. css hacks for highlighting particular "types" | Dec 08 04:29 |
techrights-sec3 | np | Dec 08 04:29 |
techrights-sec3 | Yep | Dec 08 04:29 |
schestowitz-pi | had loads of protein ysterday | Dec 08 04:38 |
schestowitz-pi | need to move closer to 90kg, got close to 100kg last month | Dec 08 04:38 |
schestowitz-pi | but health in general is ok | Dec 08 04:38 |
schestowitz-pi | i will do Daily Links soon | Dec 08 04:38 |
schestowitz-pi | today is exercise day, and yes, need more movement | Dec 08 04:38 |
schestowitz-pi | with peer pressure it is easier | Dec 08 04:38 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne afk 2pm-10pm today | Dec 08 04:38 |
techrights-sec3 | Less sitting? | Dec 08 04:38 |
techrights-sec3 | I wonder if @include can be used in the CSS for the non-common formatting | Dec 08 04:38 |
techrights-sec3 | such as the material unique to each category. | Dec 08 04:38 |
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schestowitz-pi | phjoronix is upselling 'dark mode' (css | Dec 08 04:39 |
schestowitz-pi | i think this overcomplicates the site | Dec 08 04:39 |
schestowitz-pi | inc. changes and debugging | Dec 08 04:39 |
techrights-sec3 | The goal would be to have it stay simple *and* small | Dec 08 04:40 |
techrights-sec3 | One can do CSS-only dark mode, but it adds too much weight and complexity to the | Dec 08 04:40 |
techrights-sec3 | stylesheets | Dec 08 04:40 |
schestowitz-pi | you then need to test several "modes" | Dec 08 04:40 |
schestowitz-pi | and for little practical gain | Dec 08 04:40 |
schestowitz-pi | gemini theme is user-defined | Dec 08 04:40 |
techrights-sec3 | Yes, especially in regards to Accessibility | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | semantics != presentation | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | <strong> | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | versus | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | <b> | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | < | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | <em> | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | not | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | <i> | Dec 08 04:42 |
schestowitz-pi | when you are blind the "emphasis" can be volume level | Dec 08 04:42 |
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schestowitz-pi | https://fsfe.org/news/2023/news-20230719-01.en.html | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | nothing from FSF | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | just FSF-EEE on this topic | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | CRA | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | worse: | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | FSF only links to MICROSOF TIM on it: | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | https://www.fsf.org/free-software-supporter/2023/february | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | The European Union's proposed CE mark for software could have dire impact on free software | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | From January 24 by Tim Anderson | Dec 08 04:48 |
schestowitz-pi | "Congressional Review Act (CRA)." | Dec 08 04:50 |
schestowitz-pi | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/onemorevote-is-needed-to-save-net-neutrality | Dec 08 04:50 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:10 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Firefox on the brink? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Firefox_on_the_brink.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Firefox_on_the_brink.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:14 |
schestowitz-pi | u http://www.montanalinux.org//files/videos/OSSJ-2023-Torvalds.webm | Dec 08 05:18 |
schestowitz-pi | Unkown type | Dec 08 05:18 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:22 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Torvalds, GNU/Linux, and Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Torvalds_GNU_Linux_and_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Torvalds_GNU_Linux_and_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:22 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Links 08/12/2023: Tidal and Simplilearn Layoffs ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Links_08_12_2023_Tidal_and_Simplilearn_Layoffs.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Links_08_12_2023_Tidal_and_Simplilearn_Layoffs.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:29 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Krita 5.2.2 Released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Krita_5_2_2_Released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Krita_5_2_2_Released.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:45 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Linus Torvalds Cannot Easily 'Offend' Companies Anymore, But Weeks Ago He Explained Why (Linux Support and Hardware Documentation Has Significantly Improved) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Linus_Torvalds_Cannot_Easily_Offend_Companies_Anymore_But_Weeks.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Linus_Torvalds_Cannot_Easily_Offend_Companies_Anymore_But_Weeks.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:47 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 6 Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based Image Viewers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Terminal_Based_Image_Viewers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Terminal_Based_Image_Viewers.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 05:49 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 5 reasons Linux is better than Windows for gaming handhelds ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/5_reasons_Linux_is_better_than_Windows_for_gaming_handhelds.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/5_reasons_Linux_is_better_than_Windows_for_gaming_handhelds.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 06:00 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): What Is an Immutable Linux Distro, and Should You Use One ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/What_Is_an_Immutable_Linux_Distro_and_Should_You_Use_One.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/What_Is_an_Immutable_Linux_Distro_and_Should_You_Use_One.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 06:08 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ethical Hacking Distro Kali Linux 2023.4 Brings Support for Raspberry Pi 5 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/05/Ethical_Hacking_Distro_Kali_Linux_2023_4_Brings_Support_for_Ras.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/05/Ethical_Hacking_Distro_Kali_Linux_2023_4_Brings_Support_for_Ras.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 06:18 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): NixOS: A Combination Linux OS and Package Manager ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/NixOS_A_Combination_Linux_OS_and_Package_Manager.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/NixOS_A_Combination_Linux_OS_and_Package_Manager.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 06:23 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat greases migration to RHEL for CentOS 7 holdouts ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Red_Hat_greases_migration_to_RHEL_for_CentOS_7_holdouts.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Red_Hat_greases_migration_to_RHEL_for_CentOS_7_holdouts.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 06:32 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Debian-based SparkyLinux 7.2 'Orion Belt' is the Windows 11 alternative of your dreams ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Debian_based_SparkyLinux_7_2_Orion_Belt_is_the_Windows_11_alter.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Debian_based_SparkyLinux_7_2_Orion_Belt_is_the_Windows_11_alter.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 06:49 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): KDE Gear 23.08.4 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/KDE_Gear_23_08_4.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/KDE_Gear_23_08_4.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 07:32 |
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sad | hello | Dec 08 07:53 |
sad | i am not able to register nick | Dec 08 07:53 |
sad | -NickServ- That feature is disabled | Dec 08 07:53 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Radxa Zero 3W SBC – Rockchip RK3566 SoC, 8GB RAM, WiFi 6 in Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W form factor ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Radxa_Zero_3W_SBC_Rockchip_RK3566_SoC_8GB_RAM_WiFi_6_in_Raspber.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Radxa_Zero_3W_SBC_Rockchip_RK3566_SoC_8GB_RAM_WiFi_6_in_Raspber.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 08:06 |
techrights-sec3 | In which context does th "Uknown type" message occur? | Dec 08 08:06 |
schestowitz-pi | hi, sad | Dec 08 08:07 |
schestowitz-pi | try: | Dec 08 08:07 |
schestowitz-pi | /msg NickServ register mySecretPassword validEmailAddress@example.com | Dec 08 08:07 |
sad | schestowitz-pi, i have used this command only | Dec 08 08:10 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Tumbleweed gets LLVM, Sudo, GCC Updates ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Tumbleweed_gets_LLVM_Sudo_GCC_Updates.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Tumbleweed_gets_LLVM_Sudo_GCC_Updates.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 08:12 |
schestowitz-pi | seems as soon as you entered the channels you already had this issue | Dec 08 08:14 |
schestowitz-pi | did you enter a channel before trying | Dec 08 08:14 |
sad | probably | Dec 08 08:14 |
sad | so should i register before joining any channel? | Dec 08 08:15 |
schestowitz-pi | guess it does not matter yet | Dec 08 08:17 |
schestowitz-pi | if you registered before even saying anything | Dec 08 08:17 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Difference Between openSUSE Leap and Tumbleweed ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Difference_Between_openSUSE_Leap_and_Tumbleweed.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Difference_Between_openSUSE_Leap_and_Tumbleweed.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 08:19 |
sad | while using the /register command: | Dec 08 08:23 |
sad | * REGISTER: Could not register | Dec 08 08:23 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 08:25 |
schestowitz-pi | Dec 08 08:39 | |
schestowitz-pi | tuxmachines, uploading | Dec 08 08:39 |
schestowitz-pi | http://www.montanalinux.org//files/videos/OSSJ-2023-Torvalds.webm | Dec 08 08:39 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> EFF not even pretending ahymore... ? https://www.eff.org/press/releases/landmark-battle-over-free-speech-eff-urges-supreme-court-strik | Dec 08 08:39 |
schestowitz-pi | e-down-texas-and | Source: EFF | Dec 08 08:39 |
schestowitz-pi | EFF and mozilla insist on deleting political views | Dec 08 08:39 |
schestowitz-pi | "VICTORY!" | Dec 08 08:39 |
schestowitz-pi | Denmark.US | Dec 08 08:39 |
techrights-sec3 | checking | Dec 08 08:40 |
techrights-sec3 | EFF applauds censorship, and the appeasement of violent political supremacists | Dec 08 08:40 |
schestowitz-pi | it is not helping that they frame it as a "wing" thing | Dec 08 08:41 |
techrights-sec3 | https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/how-britain-hoped-to-avoid-war-with-germany-in-the-1930s | Dec 08 08:42 |
techrights-sec3 | https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/chamberlain-and-hitler/ | Dec 08 08:42 |
techrights-sec3 | *everything* is now a wing thing even in countries which didn't used to have | Dec 08 08:42 |
techrights-sec3 | "wings" but instead once had dynamic coalitions. | Dec 08 08:42 |
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schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK???? EFF helps Facebook LIE about encryption, giving people a false sense of privacy while attacking PGP as not secure (citing HTML as 'email') ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/meta-announces-end-end-encryption-default-messenger | "will now include strong encryption by default." | Dec 08 08:46 |
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techrights-sec3 | https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-companion-to-winston-churchill/churchills-campaign-against-appeasement/DFAD28EE9F2F874026469152439E2E3D | Dec 08 08:47 |
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techrights-sec3 | The EFF is helping pull the wool over people's eyes in regards to end points | Dec 08 08:49 |
techrights-sec3 | and what is actually going on in their computer. By running unknown proprietary | Dec 08 08:49 |
techrights-sec3 | code in the browser, basically misusing it as a VM for foreign code, | Dec 08 08:49 |
techrights-sec3 | that part of the system is no longer theirs but Facebook's. So that is | Dec 08 08:49 |
techrights-sec3 | in practice not /their/ end point but /facebook's/ end point. | Dec 08 08:49 |
techrights-sec3 | installing image-magick components on test machine ... slow net today | Dec 08 08:51 |
techrights-sec3 | installation wll take tens of minutes | Dec 08 08:51 |
schestowitz-pi | maybe i will write about EFF, maybe as a BTW | Dec 08 08:52 |
schestowitz-pi | this upsets me | Dec 08 08:52 |
schestowitz-pi | they are in effect herding people into meat farms | Dec 08 08:52 |
techrights-sec3 | It might help even if you are not a major donor. Yes, farms is the right | Dec 08 08:53 |
techrights-sec3 | word. Eben Moglen had several strongly worded lectures about people being | Dec 08 08:53 |
techrights-sec3 | farmed to 'emit' behaviors. | Dec 08 08:53 |
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techrights-sec3 | Those may have also been the lecture right before or during the time | Dec 08 10:00 |
techrights-sec3 | he was referring to "The Little Sul-tan" dictator oppressing Turkey. | Dec 08 10:00 |
techrights-sec3 | He got cancelled of sorts aroud that time iirc | Dec 08 10:00 |
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techrights-sec3 | back in an hour or two | Dec 08 10:00 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne says that across the road from us they make a tesla showroom | Dec 08 10:01 |
schestowitz-pi | massive one | Dec 08 10:01 |
schestowitz-pi | i hope she got the logo wrong | Dec 08 10:01 |
schestowitz-pi | having said that, such a facility would improve general security in the streets here | Dec 08 10:01 |
schestowitz-pi | https://www.insidermedia.com/news/north-west/new-tesla-dealership-lined-up-for-site-close-to-etihad | Dec 08 10:02 |
schestowitz-pi | https://manchestermill.co.uk/p/has-elon-musk-chosen-greater-manchester | Dec 08 10:02 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Calibre eBook App Now Supports Audio ePubs - Custom Notes ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Calibre_eBook_App_Now_Supports_Audio_ePubs_Custom_Notes.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Calibre_eBook_App_Now_Supports_Audio_ePubs_Custom_Notes.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 10:09 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers and Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 10:19 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Misinformation by Microsoft ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Misinformation_by_Microsoft.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Misinformation_by_Microsoft.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 10:21 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 10:27 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Links 08/12/2023: Cyber Resilience Act in EU and Denmark Embracing 'Blasphemy Law' ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Links_08_12_2023_Cyber_Resilience_Act_in_EU_and_Denmark_Embraci.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Links_08_12_2023_Cyber_Resilience_Act_in_EU_and_Denmark_Embraci.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 10:30 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 10:30 |
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schestowitz-pi | all things considered, havin discussed this here, it's good news for us | Dec 08 10:43 |
schestowitz-pi | as there is no obligation for us | Dec 08 10:43 |
schestowitz-pi | it opens up some opportunities for neighbours | Dec 08 10:43 |
schestowitz-pi | i am stress-testing he valve and pipe, they cope under stress | Dec 08 10:43 |
schestowitz-pi | today i will focus on catching up with links | Dec 08 10:43 |
schestowitz-pi | i had fallen behind and caught up all morning | Dec 08 10:43 |
techrights-sec3 | testing is not so relevant, without solder the seal will pop open eventually | Dec 08 10:53 |
techrights-sec3 | some day in the future. RoHS solder is available inexpensively. | Dec 08 10:53 |
techrights-sec3 | The question becomes how to apply it. | Dec 08 10:53 |
techrights-sec3 | Stream #0:0: Video: av1 (Main), yuv420p(tv, bt709, progressive), 1920x1080, SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 30 fps, 30 tbr, 1k tbn (default) | Dec 08 10:59 |
techrights-sec3 | ^ from LT video, it's AV1 | Dec 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-pi | so not vp9 | Dec 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-pi | just enclosure or shell of webm | Dec 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-pi | that would explain why ffmpeg took so long time to re-encode the clip | Dec 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-pi | not crop | Dec 08 10:59 |
techrights-sec3 | I wonder how ./tm-scale-and-process-image.pl should handle guessing? | Dec 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-pi | i like some remarks there about rust | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | you can see he doesn't fancy it | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | like when he says "i'm sorry" (re manners | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | or nods while saying "no" on nsa back doors | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | he's not in charge | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | and being satirical about it, or cynical | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | de raadt paid for pro-peace remarks | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | i use ./tm-scale-and-process-image.pl a lot | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | it's working great almost always | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | if not, i use alt approach | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | not a priority to make it more robust, edge cases | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | we have lots of space and b/w left on the server | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | after youtubecalypse (coming years) | Dec 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-pi | many online videos will 404 | Dec 08 11:04 |
techrights-sec3 | Ok, ffmpeg and ffprobe can both handle AV1. Fixing. | Dec 08 11:05 |
techrights-sec3 | Should be set now | Dec 08 11:06 |
techrights-sec3 | biab | Dec 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-pi | thank you very much (she too says) | Dec 08 11:07 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Armbian 23.11 Released with Linux Kernel 6.6 LTS and Support for New Devices ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Armbian_23_11_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_6_LTS_and_Support_fo.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Armbian_23_11_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_6_LTS_and_Support_fo.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 11:50 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | back | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | np | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | Yes, over the next years, I expect (or would not be surprised by) a major | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | cull of video by Youtube. | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | UEFI : https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/just-about-every-windows-and-linux-device-vulnerable-to-new-logofail-firmware-attack/ | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | Poettering's Windoze mindset is going to afflict the BSOD onto Linux. | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | That tool is not going to be needed unless they plan to make Linux all | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | crashy and unreliable like Windoze. Thus the Windoze mindset adds to the | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | Windoze TCO | Dec 08 12:00 |
techrights-sec3 | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/12/07/146246#1335683 | Dec 08 12:04 |
techrights-sec3 | Note M$ Outlook's attack on storage, as described in the comment | Dec 08 12:04 |
schestowitz-pi | lots wrong with that argument imho | Dec 08 12:07 |
techrights-sec3 | Which one, the post or the user comment? | Dec 08 12:08 |
techrights-sec3 | If M$ Outlook really is planning to prevent local storage, that is a big deal | Dec 08 12:08 |
techrights-sec3 | in a bad way. | Dec 08 12:08 |
schestowitz-pi | the comment, lots of bs in it | Dec 08 12:10 |
schestowitz-pi | i'd ignore | Dec 08 12:10 |
schestowitz-pi | the issue is bigger than lookout and slothsoft | Dec 08 12:10 |
schestowitz-pi | also, thunderbird is one of many | Dec 08 12:10 |
schestowitz-pi | they try to make it "app" | Dec 08 12:10 |
schestowitz-pi | yoou cites lwn on pgp | Dec 08 12:10 |
schestowitz-pi | *cited | Dec 08 12:10 |
techrights-sec3 | LWN was the other day, yes, and was about introducing incompatiblities | Dec 08 12:11 |
techrights-sec3 | into OpenPGP software. The bigger problem is that e-mail basically does not | Dec 08 12:11 |
techrights-sec3 | support OpenPGP in any meaningful way. Heck (re-)alpine's support is not | Dec 08 12:11 |
techrights-sec3 | that much worse than Thunderbird's at this point. | Dec 08 12:11 |
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psydroid2 | Microsoft is the bully that will take your favourite toy from you and will claim it has always been its own | Dec 08 13:12 |
psydroid2 | that's what a cousin of mine did when I was young | Dec 08 13:12 |
schestowitz-pi | “I think he [Bill Gates] has a Napoleonic concept of himself and his company, an arrogance that derives from power and unalloyed success, with no leavening hard experience, no reverses [...] They don’t act like grown-ups!” | Dec 08 13:23 |
schestowitz-pi | Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson | Dec 08 13:23 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Updates on trademark actions against the PostgreSQL community ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Updates_on_trademark_actions_against_the_PostgreSQL_community.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Updates_on_trademark_actions_against_the_PostgreSQL_community.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 13:34 |
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techrights-sec3 | Mozilla is only kept around as long as Google needs to keep up the appearance | Dec 08 13:48 |
techrights-sec3 | of competition. Baker has seen to it that Mozilla can be eliminated on a whim | Dec 08 13:48 |
techrights-sec3 | by Google changing funding dispersement. | Dec 08 13:48 |
techrights-sec3 | Google has been undermining IMAP both as a protocol and as a service, for years | Dec 08 13:48 |
techrights-sec3 | now and that limits the ability of people to use it. There are high barriers | Dec 08 13:48 |
techrights-sec3 | for using a single mail client for multiple services. For an increasing | Dec 08 13:48 |
techrights-sec3 | number, there is *no* IMAPS support. | Dec 08 13:48 |
schestowitz-pi | i see | Dec 08 13:49 |
schestowitz-pi | makes sense now | Dec 08 13:49 |
schestowitz-pi | thanks for explaining a bit | Dec 08 13:49 |
techrights-sec3 | np | Dec 08 13:55 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Django 5.0 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/05/Django_5_0_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/05/Django_5_0_released.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 14:01 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): TUXEDO Sirius 16 Unveiled as TUXEDO’s First All-AMD Linux Gaming Laptop ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/25/TUXEDO_Sirius_16_Unveiled_as_TUXEDO_s_First_All_AMD_Linux_Gamin.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/25/TUXEDO_Sirius_16_Unveiled_as_TUXEDO_s_First_All_AMD_Linux_Gamin.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 14:06 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Open Source Initiative (OSI) is Microsoft, It Presents Microsoft-Controlled Projects Like They're Everything That Exists in the World ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Open_Source_Initiative_OSI_is_Microsoft_It_Presents_Microsoft_C.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/08/Open_Source_Initiative_OSI_is_Microsoft_It_Presents_Microsoft_C.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 14:27 |
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techrights-sec3 | the post at SN is now getting some discussion it seems | Dec 08 14:44 |
schestowitz-pi | it is a very imp subject | Dec 08 14:44 |
techrights-sec3 | imp? | Dec 08 14:45 |
schestowitz-pi | important | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | to use a joke (only joke), sometimes it feels like there is a microsoft division or microsoft reunion inside Google | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | but i amn fully aware in reality they don't form a cabal inside it | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | like a sinister plot | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | it is just tempting to attribute alkl gulag malice to that | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | we need to watch microsoff | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | watch microsoft | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | watch microsoft | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | watch microsoft | Dec 08 14:47 |
techrights-sec3 | ok, I was thinking https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imp | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | but sometimes also look at various other issues, as it seems microsoft is waning | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | still dangerous, so watch microsoft | Dec 08 14:47 |
schestowitz-pi | http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents/ | Dec 08 14:48 |
schestowitz-pi | at some stage it'll need to fix the images there | Dec 08 14:48 |
techrights-sec3 | m$ is /always/ dangerous | Dec 08 14:48 |
schestowitz-pi | microsot is the madras | Dec 08 14:49 |
schestowitz-pi | microsoftism is the religion | Dec 08 14:49 |
schestowitz-pi | it always tries to spread, e./g. canonical and OSI | Dec 08 14:49 |
schestowitz-pi | see latest TR post | Dec 08 14:49 |
schestowitz-pi | I am NOT SURE HOW TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE WIDELY | Dec 08 14:49 |
schestowitz-pi | it's crucial IMHO | Dec 08 14:49 |
techrights-sec3 | Cult o' Bill | Dec 08 14:53 |
schestowitz-pi | yes, beat me to it | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | i was JUST about to say... | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | mcirosoftism has spread also to medicine | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | e.g. vaccines with patents but no medical trials | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | or clinicla trials | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | patents first (EPO "emergency") even if no efficacy demonstrated | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | i want to spread the word about OSI | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | we helped "kill" blackduck | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | even mishi helped us spread the word | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | OSI is a massive liability | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | shilling "copilot" | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | i am only one person | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | but a site can talk "faster" than a person | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | and we are fighting a war over ideas | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | and we don't have millions in "research" (marketing) | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | fighting microsoftism is like fighting a cancer | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | it spreads to other parts of the body or orgs | Dec 08 14:54 |
schestowitz-pi | so you need to keep chasing down the tumour | Dec 08 14:55 |
schestowitz-pi | because it metastacises for too long | Dec 08 14:55 |
techrights-sec3 | Yes, one item I picked up from some lectures on esoteric Tibetan buddhism | Dec 08 15:00 |
techrights-sec3 | (long story about Univeristy days) was that one cannot necessarily defeat | Dec 08 15:00 |
techrights-sec3 | evil, it just moves around so one must always know /where/ it happens to | Dec 08 15:00 |
techrights-sec3 | be at this time and how to neutralize it. | Dec 08 15:00 |
techrights-sec3 | Microsoftianism shares a lot with Scientology and Islam. | Dec 08 15:00 |
techrights-sec3 | Mind cancer. | Dec 08 15:00 |
schestowitz-pi | many people devotes their live to this | Dec 08 15:01 |
schestowitz-pi | since ther 80s, even earlier | Dec 08 15:01 |
schestowitz-pi | much progress made, even if the media intentionally won't acknowledge it | Dec 08 15:01 |
schestowitz-pi | in some ways we cover some areas better than the scared FSF does | Dec 08 15:01 |
schestowitz-pi | the cancer analogy deals with a religion, a mindset | Dec 08 15:01 |
schestowitz-pi | more than just bill and co | Dec 08 15:01 |
schestowitz-pi | zemlin has just flung an insult at the community | Dec 08 15:01 |
schestowitz-pi | in japan | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | so they cannot just ignore us | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | they smear | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | i am not expecting free software to win 100% | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | b ut the goal is to make sure those who WANT it still CAN get it | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | and the more, the merrier | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | free software not comaptible with sociopathy | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | and sociopathy still climbs to the (political) top | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | like oil | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | lirerally and figuratively | Dec 08 15:02 |
schestowitz-pi | money | Dec 08 15:02 |
techrights-sec3 | Interesting that m$ zemlin has gone ad hominem. That means 1) that we are | Dec 08 15:03 |
techrights-sec3 | effective and 2) he is out of other options | Dec 08 15:03 |
schestowitz-pi | n | Dec 08 15:04 |
schestowitz-pi | notice how msft operates a lot via proxies these days | Dec 08 15:04 |
schestowitz-pi | linkedin, github, openheyhi | Dec 08 15:04 |
schestowitz-pi | the fututre might be cropped out tentacles of the dead octopus (github logo) | Dec 08 15:04 |
schestowitz-pi | same filth in power | Dec 08 15:04 |
schestowitz-pi | i have lots of into about what nat friedman does these days | Dec 08 15:04 |
schestowitz-pi | zemlin might outlive his usefulness to his masters soon | Dec 08 15:04 |
schestowitz-pi | but that won't end the problem of the org itself | Dec 08 15:04 |
techrights-sec3 | Yes, tools. M$ has nearly always operated via proxies and catspaws. | Dec 08 15:05 |
techrights-sec3 | It is quite possible that he might. But he has not fully destroyed LF and | Dec 08 15:05 |
techrights-sec3 | Linux yet, though GKH is in position now... | Dec 08 15:05 |
techrights-sec3 | Even with m$ zemlin gone, there would be a sysphean task almost to restore | Dec 08 15:05 |
techrights-sec3 | LF to credibility and constructiveness. | Dec 08 15:05 |
schestowitz-pi | remind people what linux (1) is | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | remind people what gnu (2) is | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | remnind people (2) is freedom | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | (1) is some corporate orbit think | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | "well, ok..." | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | and then look at where we head | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | the trajectory is not android | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | or freedon-hostile aws/"clown" | Dec 08 15:06 |
techrights-sec3 | IBM has become as big a problem as LF, due to its thorough infiltration | Dec 08 15:06 |
techrights-sec3 | by microsofters. | Dec 08 15:06 |
schestowitz-pi | ibm hates me with a passion | Dec 08 15:08 |
schestowitz-pi | the boardroom | Dec 08 15:08 |
schestowitz-pi | they tried to target nme | Dec 08 15:08 |
schestowitz-pi | and i make sure it backfires on the same day | Dec 08 15:08 |
schestowitz-pi | they were good at using PJ | Dec 08 15:08 |
schestowitz-pi | me? no, don't start | Dec 08 15:08 |
schestowitz-pi | i know what ibm is and was | Dec 08 15:08 |
schestowitz-pi | just an enabler of "the bill" | Dec 08 15:08 |
techrights-sec3 | Of course, IBM is not the old IBM of 20 years ago when they invested in | Dec 08 15:09 |
techrights-sec3 | Linux. They are now actively hostile to even the very concept. | Dec 08 15:09 |
techrights-sec3 | IBM was also terrible in the 1980s and 1990s. There was just a brief | Dec 08 15:09 |
techrights-sec3 | period about 20 years ago when they saw the light but then those in charge | Dec 08 15:09 |
techrights-sec3 | retired or moved on and were replaced by the usual scum, and microsofters | Dec 08 15:09 |
schestowitz-pi | yes | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | and "the b0rg" assimiliataed ~10k red hat staff | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | (forgot current headcount) | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | so my bstrategy is | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | attack swpats | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | promote freedom | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | fuck the "big brands" | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | we can "use" them | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | but they are not the destrination | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | fedora has nearly collapsed already | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | due to ibm, not the user | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | sabotage | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | we need to change how people see and speak of the issues | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | and then it'll be harder to lie to us | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | daniel pocock did good work | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | but as a blogger he started with a thin foundation _after_ he had been tgargeted | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | and then kaniini pressured me to not help him | Dec 08 15:11 |
schestowitz-pi | this ^ was a huge deadl because, | Dec 08 15:13 |
schestowitz-pi | albeit tr does some code, irc etc. | Dec 08 15:13 |
schestowitz-pi | its promarily function is to broadcast views | Dec 08 15:13 |
schestowitz-pi | and the above was interference in this | Dec 08 15:13 |
schestowitz-pi | in exchange for money ("savings") | Dec 08 15:13 |
techrights-sec3 | Fedora only collapsed because it was intentionally hollowed out, gutted, by | Dec 08 15:14 |
techrights-sec3 | IBM itself. IBM has become very harmful through its sponsoring and support | Dec 08 15:14 |
techrights-sec3 | of systemd, (broken) wayland, and others. | Dec 08 15:14 |
techrights-sec3 | Pocock did good technical work. Now his political efforts are essential. | Dec 08 15:14 |
techrights-sec3 | People believe the brigading :( or at least have been trained to form | Dec 08 15:14 |
techrights-sec3 | packs of rabid attackers. | Dec 08 15:14 |
schestowitz-pi | the attacks on daniel followed the blueprint of the assange attack | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | and in some cases he was ilkl-prepared, imho | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | i have another approachh | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | and if i make some brigadiers squirm | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | i hope it deters any future attempts | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | to they stay out | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | and let me carry on | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | us, as a site, we are turning 20 in 2026 | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | we already suffered _HUGE_ ddos attacks at age 1 or 2 | Dec 08 15:17 |
schestowitz-pi | like 3 days' downtime due to nonstop DDOS | Dec 08 15:17 |
techrights-sec3 | DDoS is only possible due to m$ bot nets | Dec 08 15:19 |
schestowitz-pi | yes, esp. back when i was a student | Dec 08 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | before "smart" phones were a thing or "iot" | Dec 08 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | but you knmow what they say... won't forgive, won't forget | Dec 08 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | i know how much i fought to keep my voice onlinbe | Dec 08 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | and the many tactics attempted against that | Dec 08 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | maybe 7 sites created for the sole purpose of attacking BN, then TR | Dec 08 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | and contacting employers, family etc. | Dec 08 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | jo shields now works with gulagboy | Dec 08 15:21 |
schestowitz-pi | still trying to pull the hosting | Dec 08 15:21 |
schestowitz-pi | they are very blatant | Dec 08 15:21 |
techrights-sec3 | yes | Dec 08 15:22 |
techrights-sec3 | It's not a surprise but Jo Shields and Crazy Matt's association plus their | Dec 08 15:22 |
techrights-sec3 | connection to M$ is important to point out, especially as it started /long/ | Dec 08 15:22 |
techrights-sec3 | ago, at least their work for m$ did. | Dec 08 15:22 |
schestowitz-pi | debian and ubuntu as attack vectors | Dec 08 15:23 |
schestowitz-pi | cambridge (both) | Dec 08 15:23 |
schestowitz-pi | losers | Dec 08 15:23 |
schestowitz-pi | weirdoes | Dec 08 15:23 |
schestowitz-pi | using that to play victim | Dec 08 15:23 |
schestowitz-pi | priority #1: keep _all_ the old material _accessible_ | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | more important than adding new | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | esp. in a worseniung atmosphere for free speech | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | i am very patient about old pages and making them better over time | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | rms is still ediing (recent months) pages he wrote decades ago | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | based on his timestamps at the bottom | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | it's like "documentation" | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | but his org suffered several big attacks | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | also on the funding source/s | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | so they paint the man who started the biggest OS as some kinfd of sick pervert | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | many projects, movements etc. have their founders painted this way | Dec 08 15:27 |
schestowitz-pi | esp. postnumously | Dec 08 15:27 |
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techrights-sec3 | Interesting | Dec 08 15:32 |
techrights-sec3 | I hope it can hold on or even do well for 10 more years, that would be a big | Dec 08 15:32 |
techrights-sec3 | win all around unless it gets co-opted like Slashdot did or Redddit started | Dec 08 15:32 |
techrights-sec3 | out as. | Dec 08 15:32 |
schestowitz-pi | a) rianne is a fighter, but not appreciated for all she does for the activism | Dec 08 15:33 |
schestowitz-pi | b) i exchanged many emails with some, inc. ncommander's close mate, they hope SN | Dec 08 15:33 |
schestowitz-pi | will have another 10 years in the tank | Dec 08 15:33 |
schestowitz-pi | for us the main risk now is war, health i think should be ok and finance also | Dec 08 15:33 |
schestowitz-pi | free speech online is one to watch out for | Dec 08 15:33 |
schestowitz-pi | hopping to swiss or iceland hosting is easier when all static, all in one OS | Dec 08 15:33 |
schestowitz-pi | digg died because it became toi expensive to run | Dec 08 15:33 |
schestowitz-pi | bad engineering | Dec 08 15:33 |
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techrights-sec3 | There are only about 5 years before the war from Russia spreads to Europe | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | beyond Ukraine unless financing is sorted: both EU needs to stop sending | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | money to Russia and the US needs to keep funding Ukraine and the EU needs to | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | actually provide munitions | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | digg was crap and co-opted by microsofters and other anti-open standards | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | minions. *nothing* positive about ODF or open standards ever made it | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | to the top there. | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | digg was as bad as redddit is in some ways, as far as squelching the | Dec 08 15:36 |
techrights-sec3 | rise of any topics it was opposed to. | Dec 08 15:37 |
techrights-sec3 | a friend keeps getting banned from subreddddddits for opposing AI "art" an d | Dec 08 15:37 |
techrights-sec3 | for exposing those attempting to pass AI "art" as real art. | Dec 08 15:37 |
schestowitz-pi | 2006 | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | digg is very heavy | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | and worse as they add features | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | really bad mysql queries | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | reddit is new and very light | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | would be light for years | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | and not yet a filtering site | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | at the start at least | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | over time not reddit killed digg | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | i think FB and Twitter played a big role | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | users were not coming back | Dec 08 15:38 |
MinceR | fury999io: retry registering now | Dec 08 15:38 |
techrights-sec3 | Redddit is extremely heavily censored against FOSS | Dec 08 15:38 |
techrights-sec3 | there was a purge a couple of years ago where people were unceremoniously | Dec 08 15:38 |
techrights-sec3 | kicked out of their own subredddits | Dec 08 15:38 |
schestowitz-pi | i had about 13k comments in digg | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | could not expoert comments when they shut down | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | only submissions | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | got the dump in my site somewhere | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | all those "diggs" we gave other people = "skinnerbox stuff" | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | useless, wasted time | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | sort of like social control media | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | i guess tesla will be 100m from my desk this winter | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | i was not expecting that | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | no strobe twitter billboard | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | to complain about | Dec 08 15:42 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne saw the Tesla logo al;ready erected there | Dec 08 15:42 |
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techrights-sec3 | no strobe twitter billboard, yet | Dec 08 15:42 |
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schestowitz-pi | now it is "X" | Dec 08 15:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and it is perishing | Dec 08 15:43 |
schestowitz-pi | i weighed the benefits with rianne | Dec 08 15:43 |
schestowitz-pi | we are not obligaed to buy ANYTHING | Dec 08 15:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and there are perks | Dec 08 15:43 |
schestowitz-pi | like gentrification | Dec 08 15:43 |
techrights-sec3 | I'd still recommend Patreon and or Kofi | Dec 08 16:04 |
schestowitz-pi | https://ko-fi.com/post/I-am-shutting-down-my-Ko-Fi-page-R5R3BJO5N | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | "Hello. In an unforeseen and depressing turn of events, my country - Russia - has gone to [censored] with Ukraine. (Yes, it is punishable by law to call | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | it [censored] now). | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | And then a whole cascade of sanctions happened. Companies started pulling out of Russia, websites are being censored and blocked by our government. As a | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | result we are cut off from all payment providers - PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, Western Union, JCB, you name it. I can't withdraw my PayPal balance anymor | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | e." | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | "PayPal was the only payment system available for me as a Russian here on Ko-Fi, and the only source of internet income for many years in other places. | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | Alas, I have to look for other options now." | Dec 08 16:06 |
schestowitz-pi | i can trust very few people | Dec 08 16:09 |
schestowitz-pi | i can trust no nations | Dec 08 16:09 |
schestowitz-pi | i'd trust no company | Dec 08 16:09 |
schestowitz-pi | (i don't own isp and datacentre) | Dec 08 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | reminder: nina paley was censored by such sites | Dec 08 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | even financial censorship | Dec 08 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | she is not even remotely radical | Dec 08 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | it's (to me) looking like sociall control media with IBAN/Swift/sort code instead of "likes" | Dec 08 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | they are in the business of deplatforming people | Dec 08 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | for their "shareholders", "angels", VCs etc. | Dec 08 16:10 |
techrights-sec3 | Yep | Dec 08 16:17 |
schestowitz-pi | it's a "game" | Dec 08 16:17 |
schestowitz-pi | i don't play that game | Dec 08 16:17 |
schestowitz-pi | it reminds me of games that i played in the past | Dec 08 16:17 |
schestowitz-pi | and later regretted | Dec 08 16:17 |
schestowitz-pi | nina paley is a very nice person IME | Dec 08 16:18 |
schestowitz-pi | glynmoody and other thought google+ would boost them | Dec 08 16:26 |
schestowitz-pi | or, failing that, mastodon, diaspora, and "X" | Dec 08 16:26 |
schestowitz-pi | even books... young people who buy books of cory or glyn | Dec 08 16:26 |
schestowitz-pi | no offence meant... | Dec 08 16:26 |
schestowitz-pi | brb, myt (very usual) third kettle of coffee for today... | Dec 08 16:26 |
techrights-sec3 | checking name | Dec 08 16:26 |
techrights-sec3 | cartoonist? | Dec 08 16:26 |
techrights-sec3 | Google+ was good, but it had the "disadvantage" of letting people compartmentalize their activities which allowed malevolent interests to pretend that | Dec 08 16:26 |
techrights-sec3 | it was less peopular than it really was and that became a 'meme' | Dec 08 16:26 |
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schestowitz-pi | i never played the "Google plus game" | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | but iirc, lots of JS | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | spammy emails from them | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and clunky ui | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | torvalds played that game | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and lost | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | good atmosphere today in irc | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | i think this is what angers our enemies most | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | a bunch of calm people talking technical stuff, with the occasional articles | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | news is slow | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | but i am behind | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | did lots of house work today | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | lots and lots | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | reorganising the wine rack to avoid direct sunlight and putting a new corner for salty and sweet snacks | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | it's amazing how mnuc | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | much time it can take to "optimise" internal deco stuff | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | but it's worth the time spent | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | also re-glued some drawers in the kitchen aas after more than a decade they lose their firmness | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and start to alter shape | Dec 08 16:43 |
schestowitz-pi | maybe the steam and stuff | Dec 08 16:43 |
techrights-sec3 | Excellent | Dec 08 16:45 |
techrights-sec3 | Among other things, yes | Dec 08 16:45 |
techrights-sec3 | It's a productive use of time | Dec 08 16:45 |
schestowitz-pi | after sirius i pay a lot in "home work debt" | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | and computer debt | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | inc. the sites | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | and health debt | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | i improved some sleep, diet etc. | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | blood pressure etc. far better than medium for age group | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | *median | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | but last night just 4 hours sleep | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | so i crashed on the sofa for an hour this afternoon | Dec 08 16:57 |
schestowitz-pi | i had to catch up and babysit the water outdoors | Dec 08 16:57 |
techrights-sec3 | "don't trust kaniini to do anything good" ... at least not any more | Dec 08 17:30 |
techrights-sec3 | he burned his bridges | Dec 08 17:30 |
techrights-sec3 | ? | Dec 08 17:30 |
schestowitz-pi | i pointed out that we have the irc setup on three hypervisors | Dec 08 17:31 |
schestowitz-pi | in several countries | Dec 08 17:31 |
schestowitz-pi | but one instance is off-limits | Dec 08 17:31 |
schestowitz-pi | this was brought up | Dec 08 17:31 |
schestowitz-pi | as we talked about nukes | Dec 08 17:31 |
schestowitz-pi | in relation to russia | Dec 08 17:31 |
schestowitz-pi | and dns and DCs | Dec 08 17:31 |
schestowitz-pi | redundancy | Dec 08 17:31 |
techrights-sec3 | ?! | Dec 08 17:36 |
techrights-sec3 | I understand very little about IRC. Does the daemon software need updating | Dec 08 17:36 |
techrights-sec3 | yet? | Dec 08 17:36 |
schestowitz-pi | the software is a go program | Dec 08 17:38 |
schestowitz-pi | the problem runs in userspace | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | *program | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | the program cannot do much except when admins do it | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | i.e. mostly me and mincer | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | vandalism not likely | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | today he manually handles the DB | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | to muscle in a new user | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | the rest of the people have little control over high-level back-end stuff | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | so unless untrusted admins (like *ALL* freenode/libera staff) | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | a random guest cannot even exploit much | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | the server itself is accessible only using ssh keys | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | there are two open ports for irc | Dec 08 17:39 |
schestowitz-pi | ftr, mincer is a lot more irc-proficient than me | Dec 08 17:40 |
schestowitz-pi | kaniini is former freenode staff, so there's that too | Dec 08 17:40 |
schestowitz-pi | i am a mixture of things | Dec 08 17:40 |
schestowitz-pi | master of none | Dec 08 17:40 |
MinceR | i don't really muscle in new users, just switched between defcon 4 and defcon5 | Dec 08 17:40 |
MinceR | s/n5/n 5/ | Dec 08 17:40 |
MinceR | it's less work for me when MICROS~1 patsies can't flood the services database as they please :> | Dec 08 17:41 |
techrights-sec3 | IIRC ircd was not from a package so it must be manually supervised. | Dec 08 17:42 |
techrights-sec3 | Are you on the package's mailing list? | Dec 08 17:42 |
techrights-sec3 | I'm not worried about crashes, but about breaches. | Dec 08 17:42 |
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schestowitz-pi | MinceR: wow, did they try thast | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | last time i inspected the DB file was last year | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and it looked more or less tidy | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | techrights-sec3: | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | yes, def. | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | correct | Dec 08 17:43 |
MinceR | yup | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | but... | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | given that it's a 24/7 brittle thing | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | we need to plan the upgrades | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and maybe test on test.techright | Dec 08 17:43 |
schestowitz-pi | and maybe test on test.techrights.org | Dec 08 17:44 |
schestowitz-pi | or whatever | Dec 08 17:44 |
MinceR | i've nuked several nickserv accounts with particular channels registered to them | Dec 08 17:44 |
schestowitz-pi | patiently in advance | Dec 08 17:44 |
schestowitz-pi | ah, i noticed that | Dec 08 17:44 |
schestowitz-pi | also, spamming /list | Dec 08 17:44 |
schestowitz-pi | with offending things | Dec 08 17:44 |
schestowitz-pi | "i am crazy" | Dec 08 17:44 |
schestowitz-pi | "so i am allowed" | Dec 08 17:45 |
techrights-sec3 | $ apt-cache policy ergo | Dec 08 17:46 |
techrights-sec3 | ergo: | Dec 08 17:46 |
techrights-sec3 | Installed: (none) | Dec 08 17:46 |
techrights-sec3 | Candidate: 3.8-1 | Dec 08 17:46 |
techrights-sec3 | ^ good news, we should plan the migration soon from the dangerous manual | Dec 08 17:46 |
techrights-sec3 | installation to the maintained package. | Dec 08 17:46 |
techrights-sec3 | Oops. belay that. Wrong package, same name | Dec 08 17:47 |
techrights-sec3 | Darn :( | Dec 08 17:47 |
schestowitz-pi | yes, was gonna say | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | like chromium (game) | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | not chromium-browser. | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | DEADIan still lacks ipfs too | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | and ipfs can be a mess | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | like "upgrading" the data file | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | lots of work | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | and all github | Dec 08 17:48 |
techrights-sec3 | Are you on Ergo (ircd) mailing list? | Dec 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-pi | i somewhat doubt such a thing exists as it is githubism | Dec 08 17:49 |
schestowitz-pi | and email is "hard" | Dec 08 17:49 |
techrights-sec3 | https://ergo.chat/about | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | https://ergo.chat/feed.xml <- can you add to your list please? | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | Speaking of e-mail, its reliability is impaired not just by M$ Exchange | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | but even the very existence of Windoze. That is because Windoze botnets | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | spew uncountable volumes of spam every second of every day, ensuring that | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | essential messages are lost in the flood. Without Windoze, there would | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | be no spam problem as we know it, and few to no lost messages: | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/grandmother-told-leave-uk-after-8962489 | Dec 08 17:57 |
schestowitz-pi | added to my feeds | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/grandmother-whos-lived-uk-42-28255500 | Dec 08 17:57 |
schestowitz-pi | it looks like their OWN site if a MIRROR of ... MICROSOFT | Dec 08 17:57 |
schestowitz-pi | way to get one's topology wrong | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-67654360 | Dec 08 17:57 |
schestowitz-pi | instead of shithub pointing to the original | Dec 08 17:57 |
techrights-sec3 | ^ topic ? | Dec 08 17:57 |
schestowitz-pi | SEEN all three | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | esp. the third | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | the others has nasty overlays (wtf?) | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | more a policial issue then tech issue | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | and policy as they use email instead of real mail | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | which i know about | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | remember rianne and i have 4 nationalities | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | i will go rest soon, but trying to progress with rss feeds | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | it is friday anyway, rianne is free tomorrow | Dec 08 18:03 |
techrights-sec3 | Not political in the least, the spam flood and the existence of the spam | Dec 08 18:03 |
techrights-sec3 | filter come down to the existence of Internet connected Windowze boxes in | Dec 08 18:03 |
techrights-sec3 | businesses and private homes. | Dec 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-pi | no, imho they must not use email at ALL | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | i protested this for years | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | it should not be prerequisite | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | same for their shitty "apps" | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | they mandate email and worse | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | wait, got url: | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | they even say | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | upfront | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | bring computer device with you | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | iwth connection | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | access to email | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | so many people will vomit out to gmail sensitive info | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | from the uk | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | MSGoogle | Dec 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-pi | not acceptable! | Dec 08 18:05 |
techrights-sec3 | Agreed, but they do, and because of windows it is unreliable as hell. | Dec 08 18:06 |
techrights-sec3 | There are companies and banks which try to go to 'electronic' billing | Dec 08 18:06 |
techrights-sec3 | via e-mmail but they appear to know that it has very poor reliability. | Dec 08 18:06 |
schestowitz-pi | "what's your email adress?" | Dec 08 18:06 |
schestowitz-pi | "don't have one, f off!" | Dec 08 18:07 |
schestowitz-pi | imho, same for phone | Dec 08 18:07 |
schestowitz-pi | home address should be enough | Dec 08 18:07 |
schestowitz-pi | can even send it signed-for | Dec 08 18:07 |
schestowitz-pi | to ensure receipt | Dec 08 18:07 |
schestowitz-pi | fwir, envelopes are more secure than plain-text emails | Dec 08 18:08 |
schestowitz-pi | phonecalls are hard in the authentication sense | Dec 08 18:08 |
schestowitz-pi | social engineering easier | Dec 08 18:08 |
techrights-sec3 | Surveillance is one of the ways that Google and the Five Eyes gain, | Dec 08 18:09 |
techrights-sec3 | phone != mobile/smartphone | Dec 08 18:09 |
techrights-sec3 | anyway the pensioner's problem above is a sympathetic case study | Dec 08 18:09 |
techrights-sec3 | as to the problemms of windows botnets and the spam they spew | Dec 08 18:09 |
techrights-sec3 | voices can be spoofed real time nowadays | Dec 08 18:09 |
schestowitz-pi | MSGoogle/NSA can follow verification links in emails | Dec 08 18:10 |
schestowitz-pi | so can the ISP and several other parties | Dec 08 18:10 |
schestowitz-pi | but then comes failsed biologist | Dec 08 18:10 |
schestowitz-pi | name-calling when pointing out obv. points | Dec 08 18:10 |
schestowitz-pi | like UEFI having nothing to do with sec | Dec 08 18:10 |
schestowitz-pi | same for bluetooth, 5g, and of course usb-c | Dec 08 18:10 |
techrights-sec3 | Not just can, they actually do check out links carried within e-mails. | Dec 08 18:12 |
schestowitz-pi | the email is not signed fgor integrity eithert | Dec 08 18:13 |
schestowitz-pi | so they can spoof links | Dec 08 18:13 |
schestowitz-pi | and phish you | Dec 08 18:13 |
schestowitz-pi | for whatever password you choose in the fake page | Dec 08 18:13 |
schestowitz-pi | with CAs doing _NOTHING_ to mitigate it | Dec 08 18:13 |
schestowitz-pi | any fucktard can get a cerf from LE for free | Dec 08 18:13 |
techrights-sec3 | Bluetoot is also a disaster | Dec 08 18:18 |
schestowitz-pi | some old Palm PDA have it | Dec 08 18:19 |
schestowitz-pi | but very old version | Dec 08 18:19 |
schestowitz-pi | i tidied up my PDA today | Dec 08 18:19 |
schestowitz-pi | cory says he envies me for having one (that works ok) | Dec 08 18:19 |
techrights-sec3 | Bluetooth is also a disaster | Dec 08 18:19 |
schestowitz-pi | took me a while to decipher bluetoot | Dec 08 18:20 |
schestowitz-pi | sounds like toot (mastodon) and bluesky/twitter (blue) | Dec 08 18:20 |
techrights-sec3 | This keyboard is not very good and since it is built into the computer | Dec 08 18:21 |
techrights-sec3 | it is a bad problem. | Dec 08 18:21 |
techrights-sec3 | The computer is excellent otherwise, 10/10, but the keyboard drags it down | Dec 08 18:21 |
techrights-sec3 | to a 7/10 or 6.5/10 | Dec 08 18:21 |
schestowitz-pi | i got my external tactile keyboard very cheap in the market | Dec 08 18:21 |
schestowitz-pi | they didn't tell me backlight didn't work | Dec 08 18:21 |
schestowitz-pi | but it was cheap anyway | Dec 08 18:21 |
schestowitz-pi | and came with a mouse | Dec 08 18:21 |
schestowitz-pi | the mouse had issue with the middle button | Dec 08 18:21 |
schestowitz-pi | that that resolved itself weeks ago | Dec 08 18:22 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne does not use that button anyway, she does copy-paste the "old" way | Dec 08 18:22 |
techrights-sec3 | I had planned to get an external mechanical keyboard but those plans had to | Dec 08 18:22 |
techrights-sec3 | change as the models were not available in the EU as announced / planned | Dec 08 18:22 |
techrights-sec3 | earlier | Dec 08 18:22 |
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schestowitz-pi | iirc, i paid 12 pounds for the mouse and kb | Dec 08 18:23 |
schestowitz-pi | the mouse is a 5-clicker type | Dec 08 18:23 |
schestowitz-pi | with dynamic light | Dec 08 18:23 |
schestowitz-pi | the keyboard's backlight never worked | Dec 08 18:23 |
schestowitz-pi | and i wasted an hour trying to make it work | Dec 08 18:24 |
schestowitz-pi | berfo | Dec 08 18:24 |
schestowitz-pi | before realising this is why it was cheap, a defect | Dec 08 18:24 |
schestowitz-pi | ot but relevant | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | sometimes just being healthy and happy is "getting something done" | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | many people sadly conflate money-making with productivity | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | as if all other variables are fixed | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | after leaving sirius i realised it had damaged some things | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | if you get a keyboard and you use it at night | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | make sure it is backlit | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | sometimes i get pissed off when repeatedly hitting the wrong keys | Dec 08 18:30 |
schestowitz-pi | and that is not worth the "savings" | Dec 08 18:30 |
techrights-sec3 | backlight is important at night as is being able to dim the leds | Dec 08 18:39 |
techrights-sec3 | the old laptop could do color so I experimented with supplementing | Dec 08 18:39 |
techrights-sec3 | various notifications with color flashes, it was nice but not overly helpful | Dec 08 18:39 |
techrights-sec3 | the backlight regardless of color is essential at night, I agree | Dec 08 18:39 |
schestowitz-pi | lights on mice are gimmicks | Dec 08 18:39 |
techrights-sec3 | so are lights on USB and Ethernet cables ;) | Dec 08 18:41 |
techrights-sec3 | 5-button mice are useful | Dec 08 18:41 |
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schestowitz-pi | i never saw trhose on cables | Dec 08 18:43 |
schestowitz-pi | i attack two buttons to smart shell scripts | Dec 08 18:43 |
schestowitz-pi | that act differently based on where my pointer is on which screen and where on the screen | Dec 08 18:43 |
schestowitz-pi | so they take that as implicit command arg | Dec 08 18:43 |
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schestowitz-pi | thinking leads to atheism | Dec 08 18:54 |
techrights-sec3 | Hey, that's "islamophobic (r)" | Dec 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-pi | if you call it terrorphobic the label sounds less alluring | Dec 08 19:04 |
schestowitz-pi | because terror strives to induce fear (phobia) | Dec 08 19:04 |
schestowitz-pi | in denmark you write laws this way, apparently | Dec 08 19:04 |
schestowitz-pi | votes with your heads | Dec 08 19:04 |
schestowitz-pi | severed on the pavement | Dec 08 19:04 |
techrights-sec3 | Again, the appeasement path that Denmark has chosen leads only to /more/ | Dec 08 19:06 |
techrights-sec3 | violence. | Dec 08 19:06 |
schestowitz-pi | Don't Feed the Troll (TM) | Dec 08 19:07 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> China and EU leaders agree on need of 'balanced' trade ties ☞ https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/china-and-eu-leaders-agree-on-need-of-balanced-trade-ties | Dec 08 19:07 |
schestowitz-pi | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.straitstimes.com | China and EU leaders agree on need for ‘balanced’ trade ties | The Straits Times | Dec 08 19:07 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> Democracy matters less than money. The PLAYbook of sportwashing and appeasement. | Dec 08 19:07 |
schestowitz-pi | mins before you mentioned appeasement. | Dec 08 19:08 |
techrights-sec3 | It's not appropriate that Iran and the Green Daesh are setting policy in DK | Dec 08 19:08 |
techrights-sec3 | checking | Dec 08 19:08 |
techrights-sec3 | not in the /chat.gmi file yet | Dec 08 19:08 |
schestowitz-pi | first epo, sucking up to sipo/sino/now cnipa | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | now eu | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | china ok | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | ksa ok | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | epo does pinkwashing one day | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | the next day sucking up to ksa | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | techrights covered this | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | it's about money | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | when a family becomes like this | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | society falls apart | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | nations are larger family units | Dec 08 19:10 |
techrights-sec3 | THey don't have actual nations, just clans and extended families | Dec 08 19:10 |
schestowitz-pi | western union | Dec 08 19:11 |
schestowitz-pi | or | Dec 08 19:11 |
schestowitz-pi | "Islamic Relief"(TM) | Dec 08 19:11 |
schestowitz-pi | jiza | Dec 08 19:11 |
techrights-sec3 | That's yet another aspect which Western politicians refuse to address, even | Dec 08 19:12 |
techrights-sec3 | as they import hoardes. | Dec 08 19:12 |
techrights-sec3 | Jiza is just the social support they recieve while working in the "parallel" | Dec 08 19:12 |
techrights-sec3 | economy, which is not really "parallel" but actually their main goal. | Dec 08 19:12 |
schestowitz-pi | andrew lee told me in private that for his joseon fantasy to become a nation it needs currency | Dec 08 19:14 |
schestowitz-pi | not territory | Dec 08 19:14 |
schestowitz-pi | hence, shitcoin BS | Dec 08 19:14 |
schestowitz-pi | when a colonising force creates a parallel currency | Dec 08 19:14 |
schestowitz-pi | it's easier to defund or sanction it out of existence | Dec 08 19:14 |
schestowitz-pi | it keeps running on its own | Dec 08 19:14 |
schestowitz-pi | like yuan-traded oil for china | Dec 08 19:14 |
schestowitz-pi | (ksa does this now) | Dec 08 19:14 |
techrights-sec3 | Yes KSA seems to be doing that. | Dec 08 19:15 |
schestowitz-pi | economic and diplomatic hub in the desert | Dec 08 19:16 |
schestowitz-pi | funded by our automobile addiction | Dec 08 19:16 |
schestowitz-pi | (among others) | Dec 08 19:16 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Dec 08 19:18 |
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schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> Nature magazine names regional flights subsidy "most useless" folly of 2023 ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20063829 | Dec 08 19:23 |
schestowitz-pi | i beat no-fly record | Dec 08 19:25 |
schestowitz-pi | previous record was birth till childhood | Dec 08 19:25 |
schestowitz-pi | back then flights were better but expensive | Dec 08 19:25 |
schestowitz-pi | these are not subsidies for people or airlines | Dec 08 19:25 |
schestowitz-pi | but oil-igarchs | Dec 08 19:25 |
techrights-sec3 | Still there is the proble of burnt petrochemicals. At this pace | Dec 08 19:26 |
techrights-sec3 | the electic thrust engines will never hit the market in time to prevent | Dec 08 19:26 |
techrights-sec3 | the full collapse of the final civilization. | Dec 08 19:26 |
schestowitz-pi | yes, correctly worded | Dec 08 19:26 |
schestowitz-pi | "full" | Dec 08 19:26 |
schestowitz-pi | for many people it collapsed already | Dec 08 19:26 |
schestowitz-pi | evictions etc. | Dec 08 19:26 |
schestowitz-pi | gn | Dec 08 19:27 |
techrights-sec3 | yes | Dec 08 19:27 |
techrights-sec3 | gn | Dec 08 19:27 |
techrights-sec3 | afk soon | Dec 08 19:27 |
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MinceR | 08 191915 <+schestowitz-pi> cory says he envies me for having one (that works ok) | Dec 08 23:22 |
MinceR | i really don't get the smartphone hate then :> | Dec 08 23:22 |
MinceR | they're just PDAs with cellular terminals built in | Dec 08 23:23 |
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