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techrights-secafkOct 09 02:02
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: YouTube Videos, FLOSS Weekly, and The Linux Link Tech Show ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Audiocasts_Shows_YouTube_Videos_FLOSS_Weekly_and_The_Linux_Link.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Audiocasts_Shows_YouTube_Videos_FLOSS_Weekly_and_The_Linux_Link.gmi ∎Oct 09 02:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Flatpak Fans Will Want to Install This Neat New Tool ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Flatpak_Fans_Will_Want_to_Install_This_Neat_New_Tool.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Flatpak_Fans_Will_Want_to_Install_This_Neat_New_Tool.gmi ∎Oct 09 02:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Sweet Home 3D, a Sketchup Alternative with Great Community ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Sweet_Home_3D_a_Sketchup_Alternative_with_Great_Community.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Sweet_Home_3D_a_Sketchup_Alternative_with_Great_Community.gmi ∎Oct 09 02:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Oct 09 02:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): VLC 3.0.19 Improves AV1 HDR Support with Software Decoding, Fixes Linux Issues ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/VLC_3_0_19_Improves_AV1_HDR_Support_with_Software_Decoding_Fixe.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/08/VLC_3_0_19_Improves_AV1_HDR_Support_with_Software_Decoding_Fixe.gmi ∎Oct 09 02:30
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schestowitz-pigmOct 09 03:37
schestowitz-pigood night, slept a bit extra latelytOct 09 03:37
schestowitz-pilots of triaging in the kitchen, made more space for more thingsOct 09 03:37
schestowitz-pithis week should be nice and calm, I expect...Oct 09 03:37
schestowitz-piirc is calm and friendlyOct 09 03:37
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techrights-newsTechrights – Brave and Your β€œSocial Credit Score” ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/Brave_and_Your_Social_Credit_Score.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/Brave_and_Your_Social_Credit_Score.gmi ∎Oct 09 04:18
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 08, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/irc-log-081023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/irc-log-081023.gmi ∎Oct 09 04:18
schestowitz-pihttps://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/The_Sinister_Six_Strike_Again.shtmlOct 09 04:47
schestowitz-piinspired by TROct 09 04:47
schestowitz-pihe has been with us for so many yearsOct 09 04:47
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techrights-newsTechrights – Links 09/10/2023: Catching Up With the Past Week ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/Links_09_10_2023_Catching_Up_With_the_Past_Week.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/Links_09_10_2023_Catching_Up_With_the_Past_Week.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:15
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux 6.6-rc5 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Linux_6_6_rc5.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Linux_6_6_rc5.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat vs. SUSE: How do these Linux distributions stack up? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Red_Hat_vs_SUSE_How_do_these_Linux_distributions_stack_up.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Red_Hat_vs_SUSE_How_do_these_Linux_distributions_stack_up.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): The Sinister Six Strike Again ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/The_Sinister_Six_Strike_Again.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/The_Sinister_Six_Strike_Again.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Latest Issue of PCLinuxOS Magazine ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Latest_Issue_of_PCLinuxOS_Magazine.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Latest_Issue_of_PCLinuxOS_Magazine.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Slax Linux Gets Enhanced Session Management and Boot Parameter Options ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/05/Slax_Linux_Gets_Enhanced_Session_Management_and_Boot_Parameter_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/05/Slax_Linux_Gets_Enhanced_Session_Management_and_Boot_Parameter_.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Security_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): News Roundups: GNU/Linux Focus ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/News_Roundups_GNU_Linux_Focus.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/News_Roundups_GNU_Linux_Focus.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Perl Weekly Challenge and This week in PSC ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Perl_Weekly_Challenge_and_This_week_in_PSC.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Perl_Weekly_Challenge_and_This_week_in_PSC.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): OpenStack Unleashes Bobcat: A Leap Forward in Open-Source Cloud Infrastructure ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/OpenStack_Unleashes_Bobcat_A_Leap_Forward_in_Open_Source_Cloud_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/OpenStack_Unleashes_Bobcat_A_Leap_Forward_in_Open_Source_Cloud_.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Repo Review: FreeTube ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Repo_Review_FreeTube.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Repo_Review_FreeTube.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): FSFE and Linux Foundation Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/FSFE_and_Linux_Foundation_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/FSFE_and_Linux_Foundation_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 09 05:17
techrights-sec" What's worse, the community has become so corrupted that, astonishingly, Debian's official position is to noOct 09 05:39
techrights-sec longer allow a boot loader that is licensed under GPLV3: "Oct 09 05:39
techrights-secCommunity or community leadership?  I think /mostly/ but not entirely just threOct 09 05:39
techrights-seclatter Oct 09 05:39
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: ^^Oct 09 05:39
schestowitz-pigoing to work on fixing access to TR IRC via http and gemini now...Oct 09 05:42
schestowitz-pii solved the issue of gmi uploads by cronOct 09 05:42
schestowitz-piit did not like "tr" as aliasOct 09 05:42
schestowitz-pithe irc page for TR was one of te "Pages" in WordPressOct 09 05:42
schestowitz-pihttps://wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/266423/what-is-the-database-table-for-pagesOct 09 05:42
schestowitz-piSELECT * FROM wp_posts where post_type = 'page';Oct 09 05:42
schestowitz-pibut first I will put the files in placeOct 09 05:42
techrights-secBuying only refurbished computers is effectively ignoring the problem andOct 09 05:42
techrights-secencouraging it to growOct 09 05:42
techrights-secI can check "pages" later today thenOct 09 05:42
schestowitz-pigoing to work on irc scrollback nowOct 09 05:44
schestowitz-pishould not be too hardOct 09 05:44
schestowitz-pireuse possibleOct 09 05:44
techrights-secoopeOct 09 05:44
techrights-sec s, crtrl-c and shift did not stickOct 09 05:44
schestowitz-pi:I can check "pages" later today then:Oct 09 05:45
schestowitz-pianything after that?Oct 09 05:45
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techrights-secno that was it, I tried (and succeeeded) in capturing the SQL query for thatOct 09 06:19
techrights-secand will use it laterOct 09 06:19
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Ardour 8.0 Open-Source DAW Released with Launchpad Pro Support, Region Grouping ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Ardour_8_0_Open_Source_DAW_Released_with_Launchpad_Pro_Support_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Ardour_8_0_Open_Source_DAW_Released_with_Launchpad_Pro_Support_.gmi ∎Oct 09 07:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Slimming down KNotifications ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Slimming_down_KNotifications.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Slimming_down_KNotifications.gmi ∎Oct 09 07:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Review: CROWZ 5.0 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Review_CROWZ_5_0.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Review_CROWZ_5_0.gmi ∎Oct 09 07:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (UPDATE): Linux gives up on 6-year LTS kernels, says they’re too much work ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/21/Linux_gives_up_on_6_year_LTS_kernels_says_they_re_too_much_work.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/21/Linux_gives_up_on_6_year_LTS_kernels_says_they_re_too_much_work.gmi ∎Oct 09 07:17
techrights-newsTechrights – US Government Policy as a Threat to Free Software and Sharing, Microsoft Shares Alternatives to GNU/Linux on Raspberry Pi ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/US_Government_Policy_as_a_Threat_to_Free_Software_and_Sharing_M.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/US_Government_Policy_as_a_Threat_to_Free_Software_and_Sharing_M.gmi ∎Oct 09 07:28
techrights-secbiabOct 09 07:33
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techrights-secbackOct 09 08:43
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techrights-secIs sompi still in IRC?  https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10043163Oct 09 09:22
techrights-sec"talkoarbete" is an old tradition but parallels FOSS andOct 09 09:22
techrights-secFOSS is directly relevant to the principles involved and vice versa.Oct 09 09:22
techrights-secAKA "talkoot" https://www.museovirasto.fi/fi/ajankohtaista/elavan-perinnon-kansallinen-luettelo-2023Oct 09 09:22
schestowitz-pisompi is here nowOct 09 09:22
schestowitz-pii've only just started working on the irc scrollback Oct 09 09:22
schestowitz-pihours later than planned, due to... stuffOct 09 09:23
techrights-secThey're about 10 to 20 years too late in getting it on the UNESCO list however.Oct 09 09:31
techrights-secYoung don't / refuse to participate and the youngest don't even know the \= Oct 09 09:31
techrights-secconceptOct 09 09:31
techrights-secYet it is relevant to software freedom due to the overlap in principles.   Oct 09 09:31
techrights-secThere are explicit ties via the Linux kernel and a IRC and original SSH andOct 09 09:31
techrights-seca few other projects with roots here.  Perhaps sompi could figure outOct 09 09:31
techrights-secan angle to approach FSF regarding recognition of the concept "talcoot /Oct 09 09:31
techrights-sectalkoarbete" and FOSS development which could be a post either at TR or the FSF.Oct 09 09:31
schestowitz-piadded to notes for now, to avoid multi-taskingOct 09 09:32
techrights-secokOct 09 09:32
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techrights-secbiabOct 09 10:10
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/irc/index.phpOct 09 10:12
schestowitz-pican all directories default to index.php or then ineex.html and index.html if .shtml is missing?Oct 09 10:12
schestowitz-piMon 09:12:38  β”‚ γ€–schestowitzγ€— β”‚ http://techrights.org/irc/log.gmiOct 09 10:27
schestowitz-piMon 09:12:44  β”‚ γ€–schestowitzγ€— β”‚ http://techrights.org/irc/index.phpOct 09 10:27
schestowitz-piMon 09:18:08  β”‚ γ€–schestowitzγ€— β”‚ http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-status.txtOct 09 10:27
schestowitz-piMon 09:18:13  β”‚ γ€–schestowitzγ€— β”‚ :D doneOct 09 10:27
schestowitz-piMon 09:18:14  β”‚ γ€–schestowitzγ€— β”‚ cronnedOct 09 10:27
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techrights-secbackOct 09 12:00
techrights-secyes, checking ...Oct 09 12:00
techrights-secset.   index.php added to the list however it now looks like the siteOct 09 12:00
techrights-secis tainted  with PHP ...Oct 09 12:00
techrights-seccan that be worked around with a proper cron job instead?Oct 09 12:00
techrights-secThe PHP can be removed and replaced with the same approach used in the Oct 09 12:00
techrights-secregular .shtml files.  Oct 09 12:00
techrights-secWas there anything else using PHP ?Oct 09 12:00
techrights-seccan the manicule be removed from  ( TR NEWS ) in the IRC cache?  It throwsOct 09 12:00
techrights-secoff the tabs Oct 09 12:00
techrights-secIRC cron maybe not running.  Checking ...Oct 09 12:00
techrights-sec^ wrong pasteOct 09 12:01
techrights-sec/home/boycottn/private/root/phirce-techrights/logs/log.log is not regeneratingOct 09 12:01
schestowitz-pibackOct 09 12:02
schestowitz-picleared one storage roomOct 09 12:02
schestowitz-pias food is slow to come in anywayOct 09 12:02
schestowitz-pithe cron job may still be runningOct 09 12:02
schestowitz-piirc was just idleOct 09 12:02
techrights-secexcellent, tidying is important in many waysOct 09 12:03
techrights-secok I was  thinking that the refreshing had stopped  Oct 09 12:03
techrights-secI moved the cron job to /etc/cron.d/ so that as many things in possibleOct 09 12:03
techrights-secare in the same place, that makes backup easierOct 09 12:03
techrights-secI also turned of PHP because I could not find anything which ought to have itOct 09 12:03
schestowitz-pigoodOct 09 12:05
schestowitz-piit was a messOct 09 12:05
schestowitz-piwith 12+ years of "legacy"Oct 09 12:05
schestowitz-pimaybe 14 yearsOct 09 12:05
schestowitz-pitrmancoOct 09 12:05
schestowitz-piphp is needed only for the irc botOct 09 12:05
schestowitz-pithe __OLD_ front page used php Oct 09 12:05
schestowitz-piand some rather unimportant stuffOct 09 12:05
techrights-secOk, as mentioned higher up above that has been fixed with the SSIOct 09 12:05
techrights-secand PHP will still run, just outside of Apache2Oct 09 12:05
techrights-secI notice that the IRC stuff is not in the new Git archive yet, I suppost it Oct 09 12:05
techrights-secshould all be re-added?Oct 09 12:05
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techrights-newsTechrights – US Government Policy as a Threat to Free Software and Sharing, Microsoft Shares Alternatives to GNU/Linux on Raspberry Pi ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/US_Government_Policy_as_a_Threat_to_Free_Software_and_Sharing_M.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/US_Government_Policy_as_a_Threat_to_Free_Software_and_Sharing_M.gmi ∎Oct 09 12:35
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Oct 09 12:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Add Minimize and Maximize Buttons in GNOME ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Add_Minimize_and_Maximize_Buttons_in_GNOME.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Add_Minimize_and_Maximize_Buttons_in_GNOME.gmi ∎Oct 09 12:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Intel NUC 13 Pro Mini PC Running Linux: Introduction To The Series ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/02/Intel_NUC_13_Pro_Mini_PC_Running_Linux_Introduction_To_The_Seri.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/02/Intel_NUC_13_Pro_Mini_PC_Running_Linux_Introduction_To_The_Seri.gmi ∎Oct 09 12:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Android_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 09 12:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 8th, 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_8th_2023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_8th_2023.gmi ∎Oct 09 12:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Lenovo introduces Android as a Windows alternative on some of its desktop PCs ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Lenovo_introduces_Android_as_a_Windows_alternative_on_some_of_i.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Lenovo_introduces_Android_as_a_Windows_alternative_on_some_of_i.gmi ∎Oct 09 12:36
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techrights-secThere was a new kernel in today's server update.  Which hour today is theOct 09 13:02
techrights-secmost convenient for a reboot?Oct 09 13:02
techrights-secDebian was a bit slower than the others in getting this patch out.Oct 09 13:02
schestowitz-piin and out of the officeOct 09 13:03
schestowitz-piyou can reboot any time that suits you :-)Oct 09 13:03
schestowitz-pii like the new scrollback versionOct 09 13:03
schestowitz-pifor gemni data import i need to install the monitoring program thereOct 09 13:03
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techrights-secThanks! Oct 09 13:07
techrights-secDoing it at 14:58 utc just to test the methodOct 09 13:07
*MinceR gives voice to oarion7 Spock80Oct 09 13:12
schestowitz-piat last the bots and scrollbacks are not rootOct 09 13:15
schestowitz-pithe path is legacyOct 09 13:15
techrights-secmaybe the paths can then be tweaked, so as to avoid future confusion?Oct 09 13:19
schestowitz-pii think we may want to make a new user for itOct 09 13:20
schestowitz-pibut not sure how or whichOct 09 13:20
schestowitz-pineeds thinking and foresightOct 09 13:20
techrights-secOh.   I've started moving the one script.  Oct 09 13:22
schestowitz-pithere are actually like 5 copies of itOct 09 13:24
schestowitz-pi(yes, far from idealOct 09 13:24
schestowitz-pieach with its very own config fileOct 09 13:24
schestowitz-pifor "legacy" reasonsOct 09 13:24
schestowitz-piused to be just irc.shOct 09 13:24
schestowitz-pifor BNOct 09 13:24
schestowitz-pithe -social etc.Oct 09 13:24
schestowitz-pi*thenOct 09 13:24
schestowitz-pichrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found!Oct 09 13:24
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techrights-secSeems to work,Oct 09 13:34
techrights-secLook one directory up Oct 09 13:34
schestowitz-piafter the reboot :-)Oct 09 13:37
schestowitz-piwe might want to add them to autostarOct 09 13:37
schestowitz-piirc.shOct 09 13:37
schestowitz-piirc-social.shOct 09 13:37
schestowitz-piirc-techpol.shOct 09 13:37
schestowitz-piirc-techbytes.sh Oct 09 13:37
schestowitz-piand  irc-techrights.sh Oct 09 13:37
schestowitz-piin the old server we only "missed" techpolOct 09 13:37
schestowitz-pias i never added it :)i will work on gemini scrtollback afterwards, that's tied to some other Oct 09 13:37
schestowitz-pithingsOct 09 13:37
schestowitz-pino emails from any source of nuisance lately, so we can focus on what mattersOct 09 13:37
techrights-secokOct 09 13:38
techrights-secYes,  if you  have the details of how they are started, then systemd unit filesOct 09 13:38
techrights-seccamm be made  checking.Oct 09 13:38
techrights-secThose scripts use relative paths :(Oct 09 13:38
schestowitz-pi:-) i never said they were pretty, i was in my 20s and in a hurry :-)Oct 09 13:39
schestowitz-pibtw, today, at 4am, the gmi uploads of logs finally workedOct 09 13:39
schestowitz-piand we wait for the sun before doing the morning [sic] runOct 09 13:39
schestowitz-piforecast was wrongOct 09 13:39
techrights-secOk, I think the startup scripts can be phased out in place of crappy unit filesOct 09 13:39
schestowitz-piit used to be run manually for the one channel we hadOct 09 13:40
schestowitz-pithen cloned and cloned...Oct 09 13:40
techrights-secYes, I see the copies with slight modsOct 09 13:43
techrights-secwhich user should the bots run as, boycottn, or new one?Oct 09 13:43
techrights-secI think it might be good to make a new account 'irc-bots' or something for themm?Oct 09 13:43
schestowitz-piyes, containing them would helpOct 09 13:44
schestowitz-piand boytcottn is there for legacy reasonsOct 09 13:44
schestowitz-pias some old scripts had that hardcoded Oct 09 13:44
schestowitz-pisince 2006Oct 09 13:44
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techrights-secOk setting up a new account for them...Oct 09 14:12
techrights-secI think IRC bot for #techrights is running nowOct 09 14:12
techrights-secsee systemctl status bot-irc.serviceOct 09 14:12
techrights-secIf that is the case, then similar files can be made for the othersOct 09 14:12
techrights-secthe unit file is /etc/systemd/system/bot-irc.serviceOct 09 14:14
techrights-secfor that one botOct 09 14:14
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techrights-secOk, I think it is mostly in place, but not sure about the loggingOct 09 14:39
techrights-secI assume the bot is in #techrights?Oct 09 14:39
schestowitz-pisorry, was asleepOct 09 14:41
schestowitz-piyes, it is thereOct 09 14:41
techrights-secexcellentOct 09 14:41
techrights-secnow 'just' to track down the logging ...Oct 09 14:41
schestowitz-pithe path is specified in he config file, where the channel and username are also specifiedOct 09 14:42
schestowitz-pi4 paths, near the bottom, inc. for log]Oct 09 14:42
schestowitz-pi(thanks for that, btw, been up since midnight)Oct 09 14:42
techrights-secyes looking there atmOct 09 14:43
techrights-secnp  Oct 09 14:43
schestowitz-pithis is not a trivial migrationOct 09 14:43
schestowitz-pias there is lots of debt dating back to cpanel hosting in 2006 (with centos)Oct 09 14:43
techrights-secok the 'raw.log' is there but it is not gettig translated Oct 09 14:52
schestowitz-piraw has a lot of unrelated stuff about client status and server statisOct 09 14:52
techrights-secright but is it used at all to create 'log.log' ?Oct 09 14:52
schestowitz-pithey are made separatelt, iircOct 09 14:54
schestowitz-piin the early days the nosier file existedOct 09 14:54
schestowitz-pia lot of functionality is now staleOct 09 14:54
schestowitz-pilike all the google and twitter thingsOct 09 14:54
schestowitz-pialso diaspora and identi.caOct 09 14:54
schestowitz-piAPIs changed  alotover timeOct 09 14:54
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (UPDATE): MAILING LIST SHUTDOWN NOTIFICATION ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/06/MAILING_LIST_SHUTDOWN_NOTIFICATION.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/06/MAILING_LIST_SHUTDOWN_NOTIFICATION.gmi ∎Oct 09 14:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Oct 09 14:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Postgres-related Releases: pgmetrics 1.16 and pg_dumpbinary v2.13 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Postgres_related_Releases_pgmetrics_1_16_and_pg_dumpbinary_v2_1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Postgres_related_Releases_pgmetrics_1_16_and_pg_dumpbinary_v2_1.gmi ∎Oct 09 14:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Software: Incus 0.1, Sweet Home 3D, and 14 Best Free and Open Source Linux Data Recovery Tools ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Software_Incus_0_1_Sweet_Home_3D_and_14_Best_Free_and_Open_Sour.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Software_Incus_0_1_Sweet_Home_3D_and_14_Best_Free_and_Open_Sour.gmi ∎Oct 09 14:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Oct 09 14:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Android Games on GNU/Linux and Pinball ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Android_Games_on_GNU_Linux_and_Pinball.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Android_Games_on_GNU_Linux_and_Pinball.gmi ∎Oct 09 14:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: This Week in Linux, LINUX Unplugged, LibreOffice Conference, GNU World Order ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Audiocasts_Shows_This_Week_in_Linux_LINUX_Unplugged_LibreOffice.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Audiocasts_Shows_This_Week_in_Linux_LINUX_Unplugged_LibreOffice.gmi ∎Oct 09 14:57
techrights-secmoving reboot forward to get that out of the way ...Oct 09 15:04
schestowitz-pisureOct 09 15:04
techrights-secthanksOct 09 15:04
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techrights-secfwiw added NTPd to the system to keep the clock up to dateOct 09 15:07
schestowitz-pithat can help with irc tims stampsOct 09 15:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Debian: A Career Change and debputy ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Debian_A_Career_Change_and_debputy.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Debian_A_Career_Change_and_debputy.gmi ∎Oct 09 15:10
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 09 15:10
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware, Modding, and Restoration ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Restoration.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Restoration.gmi ∎Oct 09 15:11
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 09 15:11
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/today_s_leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/09/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 09 15:11
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techrights-secok it is rebooting now, Oct 09 15:13
techrights-secI hope it comes back up Oct 09 15:13
techrights-secyep back in!Oct 09 15:13
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schestowitz-pisame minuteOct 09 15:14
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techrights-secShe can resume posting,              Oct 09 15:16
techrights-secNice, the bot works and I find the logs, it is a matter now of trackignOct 09 15:16
techrights-secdown the shell scripts and adjusting them again.Oct 09 15:16
schestowitz-piday is misty and gloomyOct 09 15:17
schestowitz-piwill work out indoors in a momentOct 09 15:17
schestowitz-piwill just post Daily Links in TR firstOct 09 15:17
techrights-secAlmost all set, tracking down a new typoOct 09 15:21
schestowitz-pijust told rianne how young we were when we made some of these botsOct 09 15:23
schestowitz-pithere was an odler one, twitfolksOct 09 15:23
schestowitz-piperl, iircOct 09 15:23
schestowitz-pibiab, exercise much later than plannedOct 09 15:23
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techrights-secI think everything is now in: ~irc-bots/archive/backup-irc-bot-techrights.tar.gzOct 09 16:28
techrights-secHow should /home/irc-bots/phirce-techrights/logs/ contents get rotated or    Oct 09 16:28
techrights-sectruncated?Oct 09 16:28
schestowitz-pibackOct 09 16:31
schestowitz-pii think cron job could handle it, checking nowOct 09 16:31
schestowitz-pi  /home/boycottn/private$ cat cron-root-2023Oct 09 16:31
techrights-secif the php scripts themselves do not handle it then logrotate should be invokedOct 09 16:31
schestowitz-piposting about 40 links, going to work on gemini nowOct 09 16:47
schestowitz-pithe scrollback includedOct 09 16:47
schestowitz-piposting about 40 links, going to work on gemini nowOct 09 17:03
schestowitz-pithe scrollback includedOct 09 17:03
schestowitz-picopied across the progrems from the pi to ~gemini/binOct 09 17:03
schestowitz-piadding to the single one that was there alreadyOct 09 17:03
schestowitz-piover time we can not only restore but also improve_ the old functionaluitOct 09 17:03
schestowitz-pithankfully i don't lack time like a years ago and am very motivatedOct 09 17:03
schestowitz-pibeen helping a lot around the house lately Oct 09 17:03
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techrights-secgreat!Oct 09 17:09
techrights-secbiabOct 09 17:09
schestowitz-pi~apt intall dialogOct 09 17:09
schestowitz-pimonitorin panel an moreOct 09 17:09
schestowitz-piwe needed to grow beyond piOct 09 17:10
schestowitz-pifor 500gb ssd this is good priceOct 09 17:10
schestowitz-pilol, as everything is local now rsync becomes obsolete for some thingsOct 09 17:17
schestowitz-pie.g. cp /some-gmi-file . and now rsync across contienntsOct 09 17:17
schestowitz-pii will comment out remote stuff, at the end we can git commit changesOct 09 17:17
techrights-secbackOct 09 17:25
techrights-secNot all Science Alert articles are relevant, maybe?  Oct 09 17:25
schestowitz-piusually i pic barely 1 in 5 Oct 09 17:26
schestowitz-pitoday i ran out of stuff after "china"Oct 09 17:26
schestowitz-piand wanted to test irc responseOct 09 17:26
schestowitz-pithe bots only run in #techrights ATMOct 09 17:26
schestowitz-piln -s  /var/log/agate logsOct 09 17:31
schestowitz-pigemini@ID28399:~$ pwdOct 09 17:31
schestowitz-pi/home/geminiOct 09 17:31
schestowitz-pigoing to extent it to multi-domainOct 09 17:31
schestowitz-pi*extendOct 09 17:31
techrights-secsome of that rolled off the top, max 23 lines iircOct 09 17:55
techrights-secwhich script ? Oct 09 17:55
techrights-secchecking show-new-visitors-count.shOct 09 17:55
techrights-secokOct 09 17:55
schestowitz-pino need to check, i am getting closer thoughOct 09 17:55
schestowitz-pigemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi Oct 09 18:02
schestowitz-pi:-)Oct 09 18:02
schestowitz-pii will come back to it laterOct 09 18:02
schestowitz-pii want to over-compensate by improving the programsOct 09 18:02
schestowitz-pinow t hat we are not on a shaky HV of an increasingly unstable person but a valued ( I hoOct 09 18:02
schestowitz-pipe) customeOct 09 18:02
schestowitz-pigemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/Oct 09 18:02
schestowitz-pimuch remains to be done there, a chance to add and enhanceOct 09 18:02
techrights-secThe awk part needs different fields, that is allOct 09 18:03
techrights-secI got the connection refused error for gemini now for the first time, Oct 09 18:03
techrights-secbut reloading got throughOct 09 18:03
techrights-sec:)Oct 09 18:03
techrights-secWe can hope.Oct 09 18:03
techrights-secIRC is unusually quiet, or is it?Oct 09 18:03
schestowitz-piit was busy in the early morningOct 09 18:04
schestowitz-piat times like these I prefer calm anywayOct 09 18:04
schestowitz-picrazy people can find a new obsessionOct 09 18:04
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techrights-secShould /home/irc-bots/bin/bots/phirce-techrights/ be backed up too Oct 09 18:07
techrights-secor is just the config file sufficient from   Oct 09 18:07
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techrights-sec that directory Oct 09 19:04
techrights-sec?Oct 09 19:04
techrights-secgemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/09/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmiOct 09 19:04
techrights-secPasting verbatim won't workOct 09 19:04
techrights-secfrom TM to TROct 09 19:04
techrights-secthe Gemini script expects a different structure iirc Oct 09 19:04
schestowitz-pimy pc frozeOct 09 19:06
schestowitz-pi(rare)  Oct 09 19:07
schestowitz-pihad to rebootOct 09 19:07
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schestowitz-pii will change the structureOct 09 19:07
schestowitz-pirer config file, it is where there is no overlapOct 09 19:07
schestowitz-pigonna rest a few hoursOct 09 19:07
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