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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Jun 10 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Jun 10 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux Mint 21.2 Promises Better Support for Flatpak Apps, Faster File Management ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/28/Linux_Mint_21_2_Promises_Better_Support_for_Flatpak_Apps_Faster.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/28/Linux_Mint_21_2_Promises_Better_Support_for_Flatpak_Apps_Faster.gmi ∎Jun 10 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux Mint 21.2 with Cinnamon 5.8 Is Getting Support for Gestures ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/02/Linux_Mint_21_2_with_Cinnamon_5_8_Is_Getting_Support_for_Gestur.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/02/Linux_Mint_21_2_with_Cinnamon_5_8_Is_Getting_Support_for_Gestur.gmi ∎Jun 10 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, Linux in the Ham Shack, and Linux Action News ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Audiocasts_Shows_BSD_Now_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_and_Linux_Actio.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Audiocasts_Shows_BSD_Now_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_and_Linux_Actio.gmi ∎Jun 10 00:05
schestowitz-pi2psydruid: nytimes might not survive for longJun 10 01:04
schestowitz-pi2a few more yearsJun 10 01:04
psydruidI can't feel sorry for themJun 10 01:05
psydruidit looks like everything in the country is going down the drainJun 10 01:05
techrights-newsGemini Links 09/06/2023: Thoughts on Flatpak and Apple Cultists | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/09/apple-cultists/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/09/apple-cultists/Jun 10 01:06
schestowitz-pi2so they try to make other countries miderabJun 10 01:06
schestowitz-pi2ukraine, russia, chinaJun 10 01:06
schestowitz-pi2even euJun 10 01:06
schestowitz-pi2i reckon the US did in fact bomb the gas pipelineJun 10 01:06
schestowitz-pi2to get europe to be more involvedJun 10 01:07
schestowitz-pi2and to sufferJun 10 01:07
psydruidthey are too cowardly to even admit itJun 10 01:07
psydruid"Did you bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Yes, we can and we did"Jun 10 01:07
schestowitz-pi2clandestine operationsJun 10 01:08
schestowitz-pi2they only admit when it's too big a blunderJun 10 01:08
psydruid"Did you bomb the pipeline? Crickets"Jun 10 01:08
schestowitz-pi2https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/05/20/314231260/cia-says-it-will-no-longer-use-vaccine-programs-as-coverJun 10 01:08
psydruidI have nothing with the US, no ties and no sympathyJun 10 01:09
psydruidI just want its power to be curbed once and for allJun 10 01:10
psydruidso the rest of the world can evolve more freelyJun 10 01:10
schestowitz-pi2but that does not mean all places become autonomousJun 10 01:10
schestowitz-pi2other superpowers will full vacuumsJun 10 01:10
psydruidit does not, but that's a whataboutismJun 10 01:11
schestowitz-pi2it isJun 10 01:11
schestowitz-pi2and a us talking pointJun 10 01:11
psydruidthe US has no inherent right to rule the worldJun 10 01:11
psydruidnor does any other countryJun 10 01:11
techrights-newsLinks 09/06/2023: JDBC FDW 0.3.1 and Godot 4.1 Beta | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/09/jdbc-fdw-0-3-1/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/09/jdbc-fdw-0-3-1/Jun 10 01:13
schestowitz-pi2psydruid: rightJun 10 01:15
schestowitz-pi2i agreeJun 10 01:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Security_Leftovers.2.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/09/Security_Leftovers.2.gmi ∎Jun 10 01:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎Jun 10 01:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Microsoft Doing Illegal Things, Promoting Chatbots Falsely Marketed as "Intelligent" ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Microsoft_Doing_Illegal_Things_Promoting_Chatbots_Falsely_Marke.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Microsoft_Doing_Illegal_Things_Promoting_Chatbots_Falsely_Marke.gmi ∎Jun 10 01:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat: Flock to Fedora, Flatpak, and Cockpit ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Red_Hat_Flock_to_Fedora_Flatpak_and_Cockpit.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Red_Hat_Flock_to_Fedora_Flatpak_and_Cockpit.gmi ∎Jun 10 01:22
schestowitz-pi2//gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiJun 10 02:01
schestowitz-pi2gemini.tuxmachines.org: 9994 URLsJun 10 02:01
schestowitz-pi2news.tuxmachines.org: 9991 URLsJun 10 02:01
schestowitz-pi2for some reason it indexes both, as separateJun 10 02:01
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 5 Best Sticky Note Apps for Linux (2023) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/5_Best_Sticky_Note_Apps_for_Linux_2023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/5_Best_Sticky_Note_Apps_for_Linux_2023.gmi ∎Jun 10 02:32
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 6 Best Linux project management software in 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/6_Best_Linux_project_management_software_in_2023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/6_Best_Linux_project_management_software_in_2023.gmi ∎Jun 10 02:32
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux and Devices: NXP, Wind River, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Linux_and_Devices_NXP_Wind_River_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Linux_and_Devices_NXP_Wind_River_and_More.gmi ∎Jun 10 02:33
techrights[sec]_backJun 10 05:18
techrights[sec]_strange that it indexes news.tuxmachines.org but since they are differentJun 10 05:18
techrights[sec]_host names it is not a big surprise that they are treated seperately,  Jun 10 05:18
techrights[sec]_I guess the software does not check the keyJun 10 05:18
schestowitz-pi2redditJun 10 05:19
schestowitz-pi2twitchJun 10 05:19
schestowitz-pi2and othersJun 10 05:19
schestowitz-pi2social control media in collapseJun 10 05:19
schestowitz-pi2spotify losing 1,000m dollar a yearJun 10 05:20
schestowitz-pi2bleedingJun 10 05:20
schestowitz-pi2a sea of changeJun 10 05:20
schestowitz-pi2thought: sister works 60-70 hours a week for the price of 40Jun 10 05:23
schestowitz-pi2meanwhile mandy loses hoursJun 10 05:23
schestowitz-pi2companies get one person (salary) to do the job of severalJun 10 05:23
schestowitz-pi2in yle english, the choice of topics has been weird lately, no single storyJun 10 05:31
schestowitz-pi2in particular, but a lot of stuff that does not belong thereJun 10 05:31
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Security_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Jun 10 05:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Jun 10 05:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Software: libei 1.0.0, JDBC FDW 0.3.1, Coqui TTS, Notes ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Software_libei_1_0_0_JDBC_FDW_0_3_1_Coqui_TTS_Notes.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Software_libei_1_0_0_JDBC_FDW_0_3_1_Coqui_TTS_Notes.gmi ∎Jun 10 05:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): BSDCan, Open Data, and SUSE Pushing Proprietary ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/BSDCan_Open_Data_and_SUSE_Pushing_Proprietary.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/BSDCan_Open_Data_and_SUSE_Pushing_Jun 10 05:40
techrights[sec]_It's like YLE English is not covering national stuff any moreJun 10 05:53
techrights[sec]_It's probably a one-person shopJun 10 05:53
schestowitz-pi2iirc, they have cuts on the wayJun 10 05:58
schestowitz-pi2or _had_Jun 10 05:58
schestowitz-pi2for financial reasona aloneJun 10 05:58
schestowitz-pi2some people collect moneyJun 10 05:58
schestowitz-pi2i'd rather be the one exposing the "collectors"Jun 10 05:58
schestowitz-pi2when i was a kid almost all media/boradcast was state-fundedJun 10 05:58
schestowitz-pi2it was a _service_Jun 10 05:58
schestowitz-pi2spectator/telegraph are about to collapse, they're tory pubsJun 10 05:58
techrights[sec]_""Orpo: Cabinet formation talks "could" wrap up next week"" russia is stillJun 10 06:10
techrights[sec]_laughing about that and, of course, the tiktok win which made the ongoing Jun 10 06:10
techrights[sec]_stalemate possibleJun 10 06:10
schestowitz-pi2draftJun 10 06:10
schestowitz-pi2what the heck is FOOD CONSULTING?Jun 10 06:10
schestowitz-pi2am i missing something?Jun 10 06:10
techrights-news’Linux’ Foundation: Spendings on Salaries Increased More Than 20% in One Year | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/10/linux-foundation-spendings-on-wages/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/10/linux-foundation-spendings-on-wages/Jun 10 06:14
schestowitz-pi2tiktok is a data point in waning western dominanceJun 10 06:17
schestowitz-pi2opium wars, but digitalJun 10 06:17
schestowitz-pi2https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-23-2022-2/Jun 10 06:17
schestowitz-pi2"TikTok demoing how to participate out tomorrow"Jun 10 06:17
techrights[sec]_Yes, it is clearly a weapon by design.  Only one CBS-60-Minutes segment and Jun 10 06:28
techrights[sec]_a few statements by the Surgeon General have even touched on the health aspectsJun 10 06:28
techrights[sec]_and those are just symptoms of the nature of the weapon.  That it is intended Jun 10 06:28
techrights[sec]_to be and used as a weapon is ignoredJun 10 06:28
schestowitz-pi2draftJun 10 06:48
schestowitz-pi2i think he found a clever way to lieJun 10 06:48
schestowitz-pi2like sheelaJun 10 06:48
techrights-news-linux-foundation-has-revenue-of-139-million-dollars/Jun 10 06:48
schestowitz-pi2tiktok is a babushka of threatsJun 10 06:56
schestowitz-pi2at trhe crust: phone, network Jun 10 06:56
schestowitz-pi2deeper inside: "app", centralisation/authorityJun 10 06:56
schestowitz-pi2maybe we can conceptualise thisJun 10 06:56
schestowitz-pi2rms "gets" itJun 10 06:56
schestowitz-pi2spoke about it this weekJun 10 06:56
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Author and sponsor BOTH Microsoft staff. Microsoft basically BOUGHT control over Python, to sell proprietary malware and surveillance https://peps.python.org/pep-0695/Jun 10 07:16
techrights-newsLinks 10/06/2023: libei 1.0.0 and Qt Creator 11 Beta | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/10/libei-1-0-0/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/10/libei-1-0-0/Jun 10 07:43
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Fedora and Flakpak Latest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Fedora_and_Flakpak_Latest.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Fedora_and_Flakpak_Latest.gmi ∎Jun 10 07:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Distributions and Operating Systems: GNU Guix and EasyOS ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Distributions_and_Operating_Systems_GNU_Guix_and_EasyOS.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Distributions_and_Operating_Systems_GNU_Guix_and_EasyOS.gmi ∎Jun 10 07:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Debian 12 on Librem 5, Linux in the HAM Shack, LibreOffice Native Language Projects ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Debian_12_on_Librem_5_Linux_in_the_HAM_Shack_LibreOffice_Native.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Debian_12_on_Librem_5_Linux_in_the_HAM_Shack_LibreOffice_Native.gmi ∎Jun 10 07:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Jun 10 07:57
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schestowitz-pi2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurduckenJun 10 08:26
techrights[sec]_s/babushka/turducken.Jun 10 08:26
schestowitz-pi2rianne might have something to say about it...Jun 10 08:28
schestowitz-pi2seems like a pointless and possible "offensive"   Jun 10 08:28
schestowitz-pi2*possiblyJun 10 08:28
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techrights[sec]_It's a common enough metaphorJun 10 08:48
techrights[sec]_Maybe you meant Matryoshka dolls instead of babushkaJun 10 08:48
schestowitz-pi2"In some countries, matryoshka dolls are often referred to as babushka dolls"Jun 10 08:49
schestowitz-pi2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_dollJun 10 08:49
techrights[sec]_Interesting, I'd only heard babushka as either literal translation for grandmaJun 10 09:04
techrights[sec]_or else for the old ladies paid by the state to sit in a specific locationJun 10 09:04
techrights[sec]_and spy on everyone passing with sight or earshot.  They had them every fewJun 10 09:04
techrights[sec]_feet in some parts of some countries for a while. Jun 10 09:04
techrights[sec]_Like old East Germany was full of them, as one example.Jun 10 09:04
schestowitz-pi2they still have them, but they report via cell towersJun 10 09:05
schestowitz-pi2and it's called tiktokJun 10 09:05
schestowitz-pi2(just did dishes; never enjoying that)Jun 10 09:05
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Friday, June 09, 2023 | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/10/irc-log-090623/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/10/irc-log-090623/Jun 10 09:06
techrights-news"could be caught out by a change in the economic climate, along with a host of hot ideas that could turn out to have just been "ZIRP phenomena."" https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/opinions/the-end-of-zirp-has-killed-the-metaverse/Jun 10 09:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): #HowTo Upgrade to Debian 12 from Debian 11 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/How_to_Upgrade_to_Debian_12_from_Debian_11.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/How_to_Upgrade_to_Debian_12_from_Debian_11.gmi ∎Jun 10 09:10
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 7 Stunning Docks for Ubuntu and other Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/7_Stunning_Docks_for_Ubuntu_and_other_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/7_Stunning_Docks_for_Ubuntu_and_other_Linux.gmi ∎Jun 10 09:16
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techrights[sec]_However, tiktok is not a spy but an actual weapon. Jun 10 09:18
techrights[sec]_cell towers are spies akin to old babushkas, especially the mm wave 5G stuffJun 10 09:18
techrights[sec]_However, tiktok is not a spy but an actual weapon. Jun 10 09:18
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schestowitz-pi2while dong dishes i did lots of thinkling about "cards" at grocersJun 10 09:35
schestowitz-pi2and how it's down to very few where you don't get penalised somehowJun 10 09:35
schestowitz-pi2for buying with cash and no "cards"Jun 10 09:35
schestowitz-pi2the privacy tax means almost everyone builds a DB on all purchasesJun 10 09:35
schestowitz-pi2StasiJun 10 09:35
techrights[sec]_Yes, and the companies buy and sell that data.Jun 10 09:36
techrights[sec]_and not with any meaningful anonymization if at all.Jun 10 09:36
schestowitz-pi2think of it was not a fruitless exerciseJun 10 09:37
schestowitz-pi2i made the decision not to shop again in those shopsJun 10 09:37
schestowitz-pi2where "loyalty" cards of any kind existJun 10 09:37
schestowitz-pi2no remorseJun 10 09:37
schestowitz-pi2emancipation starts with oneselfJun 10 09:40
schestowitz-pi2convincing other people to follow is the bigger challengeJun 10 09:40
schestowitz-pi2i don't control tiktok or national broadcastJun 10 09:40
techrights[sec]_However, as Giblin and Doctotor pointed out in "Chokepoint" capitalism most Jun 10 09:45
techrights[sec]_people are not in such a position ot make such a choice and any change hasJun 10 09:45
techrights[sec]_to come via legilislation.  As Rossmann figured out the hard way, and RMS hasJun 10 09:45
techrights[sec]_yet to acknowledge, is that changing legislation /requires/ hiring lobbyistsJun 10 09:45
techrights[sec]_for interacting with strategically positioned representatives.Jun 10 09:45
schestowitz-pi2this is expensive and time-consuming imho, and you would not necessarilyJun 10 09:47
schestowitz-pi2agree with me on that. i think exposing a bad situation and then contactingJun 10 09:47
schestowitz-pi2people who can influence matter might work tooJun 10 09:47
schestowitz-pi2today someone connected to sirius got in touchJun 10 09:47
schestowitz-pi2i cannot say muchJun 10 09:47
schestowitz-pi2at least not this monthJun 10 09:47
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): KDE Frameworks 5.107 Enables Thumbnail Caching on Encyrpted Volumes ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/KDE_Frameworks_5_107_Enables_Thumbnail_Caching_on_Encyrpted_Vol.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/10/KDE_Frameworks_5_107_Enables_Thumbnail_Caching_on_Encyrpted_Vol.gmi ∎Jun 10 10:32
techrights[sec]_https://re-publica.com/en/node/2906 ""We don't solve this problem by shopping harder: we sJun 10 10:47
techrights[sec]_olve it by smashing the power of the giant corporations that have captured all kinds of woJun 10 10:47
techrights[sec]_rkers - not just creators. ""Jun 10 10:47
techrights[sec]_No link to the audio though, not sure if there ever will be any.Jun 10 10:47
schestowitz-pi2just spent hour with dad on mumbleJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2the ads on youtube drive him nutsJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2even while he uses it for music during exerciseJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2i said, wait, it'll get worse soonJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2the title you sent, from rozzmann iirc, was short and to the pointJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2ads forcefed, all alts crushesJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2*crushedJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2that's what the new manager was put there to doJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2he only waited ~2 monthsJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2gonna go cycle in the forsts, chinups dips etc, then back 2 hours laterJun 10 10:49
schestowitz-pi2it's 30 degs hereJun 10 10:49
techrights[sec]_The new manager probably did not wait, rather it took 2 months for his immediateJun 10 10:50
techrights[sec]_changes to hit the publicly visible parts of the service.Jun 10 10:50
schestowitz-pi2twitter: we might delete inactive accounts, unless you are deadJun 10 11:01
schestowitz-pi2you will lose blue tick unles you are dead and famousJun 10 11:01
schestowitz-pi2maybe youtube: we delete your old videos with views < [threshold]Jun 10 11:01
schestowitz-pi2really youtube: pay $120 a year to watch without adsJun 10 11:01
schestowitz-pi2back in 2 hoursJun 10 11:05
schestowitz-pi2"there is no free lunch" -> gulag is NOT a non-profit serviceJun 10 11:05
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techrights[sec]_"really youtube: pay $120 a year to watch without ads" not true, the ads areJun 10 13:24
techrights[sec]_there tooJun 10 13:24
techrights[sec]_There's so much bullshit that it's hard to keep track of it all. Jun 10 13:24
techrights[sec]_Furthermore of the $120 per year basically none of that makes it to the Jun 10 13:24
techrights[sec]_"creators" of the videos you actually watch.Jun 10 13:24
techrights[sec]_Rossmann covered that in depth twice.Jun 10 13:24
schestowitz-pi21) backJun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi22) cats attacked the plant againJun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi23) concert here tonight, at same time there's Champions League final in TurkeyJun 10 13:25
techrights[sec]_YesJun 10 13:25
techrights[sec]_Do you have a bar indoors or in the garden?Jun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi24) turns out my dad does more chin-ups than me now, i need to correct thatJun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi25) reading what i missed, i was wrong about the youtube "premium"Jun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi26) Rossmann tried odyusee, he should try haederJun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi27) i checked out in finer dtailed lbry 2020 and saw many red flagsJun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi28) no way to do chin-ups at home, not safely anyway, and i don't want to Jun 10 13:25
schestowitz-pi2ruin the doorsJun 10 13:25
techrights[sec]_You could have a rack built in the yard maybe?Jun 10 13:26
schestowitz-pi2out 40, it was my schoolJun 10 13:27
schestowitz-pi2record too (for dips also i held the record)Jun 10 13:27
schestowitz-pi2my days as record holder are long behind nowJun 10 13:27
schestowitz-pi2i had one at home as a kid, i think my record is about 40, it was my schoolJun 10 13:27
schestowitz-pi2record too (for dips also i held the record)Jun 10 13:27
schestowitz-pi2my days as record holder are long behind nowJun 10 13:27
techrights[sec]_6) Rossman should eventually self-host.  I hope that is coming.  He seems Jun 10 13:28
techrights[sec]_on the path to making that relization. Jun 10 13:28
techrights[sec]_One has to be skinny + strong for high levels of pullups.Jun 10 13:28
schestowitz-pi2the number of views he gets makes self-hosting visible, even without peer-to-peerJun 10 13:31
schestowitz-pi2like peertubeJun 10 13:31
schestowitz-pi2it gets trickeier when you serve millions per dayJun 10 13:31
schestowitz-pi2lunduke tries to get back in youtube, gets maybe 500 views, even lessJun 10 13:31
schestowitz-pi2*viableJun 10 13:32
techrights[sec]_Lunduke has no point to his blatherings any more, not since years agoJun 10 13:32
schestowitz-pi2β˜› https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-orders-invidious-privacy-software-to-shut-down-in-7-days-230609/ | Source: Torrent FreakJun 10 13:44
schestowitz-pi2should TR issue a call to boycott YouTube?Jun 10 13:44
techrights[sec]_not necessarily boycott, just abandon / give up on itJun 10 13:46
techrights[sec]_It's well-past time to stop using youtube and move onJun 10 13:46
schestowitz-pi2will think deeply about this while posting linksJun 10 13:46
*Moocher5254 (~quassel@qy2y59ha8m3v6.irc) has joined #tuxmachinesJun 10 13:47
schestowitz-pi2the invidioous thing on its ownm, in sioaltion, would seem weakJun 10 14:02
schestowitz-pi2to those who don't keep trackJun 10 14:02
schestowitz-pi2and don't even know what it isJun 10 14:02
schestowitz-pi2so i started making a listJun 10 14:02
schestowitz-pi2see irc scrollback maybe?Jun 10 14:02
techrights[sec]_No, I might get to IRC tomorrow, even when yuou mention a scroll back thereJun 10 14:02
techrights[sec]_is never antyhiing in it of special notice. :/Jun 10 14:02
techrights[sec]_I tend to skim through the logs very quickly most days but not sure why.  Jun 10 14:02
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techrights[sec]_There are nonetheless a lot of economic reasons not to promote YoutubeJun 10 14:14
techrights[sec]_The people who make videos tend to get nothing or almost nothing.  ThenJun 10 14:14
techrights[sec]_as Lunduke and some others have pointed out the string "Linux" in the titleJun 10 14:14
techrights[sec]_ensures demonetization at least during the peak where at least a little moneyuJun 10 14:14
techrights[sec]_might have come in.  Jun 10 14:14
schestowitz-pi2see /tmp/ytJun 10 14:16
schestowitz-pi2this will have more efferct as daily series with partsJun 10 14:23
schestowitz-pi2easier to digest and harder to slip asideJun 10 14:23
techrights[sec]_which machine?Jun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_In the list of problems against YT be sure to point out that advertising doesJun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_not require javascript and that malware laden javascripts are so common inJun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_advertisements that they are known as malvertisements.  It has afflictedJun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_even big name companies, not just dodgy sitesJun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_That is because the ads are served by a third party which gets its ads Jun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_from yet another entity. Jun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_No part of the chain has accountability. Jun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/threat-intelligence/2023/05/malvertising-its-a-jungle-ouJun 10 14:24
schestowitz-pi2on piJun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_t-thereJun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/22520297/google-warning-amazon-malvertising-scam/Jun 10 14:24
techrights[sec]_Which Pi?   I've checked both.Jun 10 14:27
schestowitz-pi2oops, try againJun 10 14:27
techrights[sec]_CheckingJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_There /are/ a lot of fake DCMA take downs and YT toes the line.  If you areJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_a "creator" on the other hand, tough.  Jun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_https://www.insider.com/youtubers-channels-are-being-held-hostage-with-fake-copyright-claiJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_ms-2020-6Jun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_https://www.engadget.com/youtube-restores-lofi-girl-fake-dmca-claims-202140482.html?guccouJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_nter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3RhcnRwYWdlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFpsBlgrobbJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_2jhTJmdhbhgznpgUIOtMOrgFa_6P9-eGNqhvCjHOOaWTF7Q12voml2LWjYvA_gu2j9QIiUMs0TM9iJO5L0k2q4wNjdJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_23E44DeqE2dn5gVc0VI95_S4XBrFyU3pbVfCyEBhttps://www.engadget.com/youtube-restores-lofi-girlJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_-fake-dmca-claims-202140482.htmlJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_https://torrentfreak.com/fake-youtube-dmca-notices-exploit-suspension-fears-to-install-malJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_ware-220831/Jun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/06/23/bungie-unmasks-fraudulent-dmca-spammer-aJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_s-a-destiny-2-youtuber/ (sorry about the long one, it was replacedJun 10 14:35
techrights[sec]_by the link following it)Jun 10 14:35
schestowitz-pi2i will add those as refsJun 10 14:36
schestowitz-pi2we need to break it into partsJun 10 14:36
schestowitz-pi2one per dayJun 10 14:36
techrights[sec]_https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/04/thanks-to-automated-copyright-claims-and-a-troll-infamJun 10 14:37
techrights[sec]_ous-counterstrike-clip-gets-a-dmca-takedown/Jun 10 14:37
techrights[sec]_Then there are the complaints that "creators" get basicaly no money for  Jun 10 14:37
techrights[sec]_their YT videos regardless of how many viewers the video brings inJun 10 14:37
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techrights[sec]_Rossmann has gone over the numbers several times but never has any textJun 10 14:40
techrights[sec]_that stands on its own.  Jun 10 14:40
techrights[sec]_Lunduke and DT have both commplained repeatedly as wellJun 10 14:40
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schestowitz-pi2all added to my notes, will partition these laterJun 10 14:41
schestowitz-pi2deadline is 7 days iirc, starting days agoJun 10 14:49
schestowitz-pi2so the timing seems rightJun 10 14:49
schestowitz-pi2invidious that isJun 10 14:49
schestowitz-pi2gemini.tr passed 200k at middayJun 10 14:53
schestowitz-pi29.5 daysJun 10 14:53
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techrights[sec]_That's a good increase.Jun 10 14:55
techrights[sec]_It costs writing documents suitable for GemText or conversion to GemTexJun 10 14:55
techrights[sec]_tJun 10 14:55
schestowitz-pi2people read our 'catalogue' like a bookJun 10 14:56
schestowitz-pi2and it costs nothing to either sideJun 10 14:56
schestowitz-pi2just some pi electricityJun 10 14:56
schestowitz-pi2latex is good alsoJun 10 14:56
schestowitz-pi2rianne uses it, via lyxJun 10 14:56
schestowitz-pi2she keeps saying, zemlin has no cs clue, does not use linuxJun 10 14:56
schestowitz-pi2facepalmJun 10 14:56
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techrights[sec]_https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/06/10/1325221Jun 10 15:19
schestowitz-pi2wow, what a storyJun 10 15:22
schestowitz-pi2maybe i'll go below 90kg first time since 2010Jun 10 15:22
schestowitz-pi2(competed with sister for weight loss then)Jun 10 15:22
techrights[sec]_Muscle is denser than fat so you can increase your workout and gain weightJun 10 15:22
techrights[sec]_at the same time as losing fat.  Jun 10 15:22
schestowitz-pi2cna lose weight and also gain muscle, just means a lot of fat is lostJun 10 15:23
techrights[sec]_I can't keep healthy for a long eough run to keep an exercise programme goingJun 10 15:23
schestowitz-pi2any exercise at all is better than noneJun 10 15:24
schestowitz-pi2i put the bars for pushups in the next room, so even one set per hour isJun 10 15:24
schestowitz-pi2somethingJun 10 15:24
techrights[sec]_yes, that is trueJun 10 15:24
schestowitz-pi2computer systems have "downtime"Jun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2humans stop to live if the heart has "downtime"Jun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2there is no "recovery"Jun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2and nobody can assess one's length of life (cancer too)Jun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2om malik and ken starks were forced outJun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2due to health reasons, to name just twoJun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2malik was about my age, iircJun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2had strokeJun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2his doc forced him to limit work to 4 hours a day (iirc) to surviveJun 10 15:28
schestowitz-pi2his site is in ashesJun 10 15:28
techrights[sec]_Is that what happened to Om Malik?  His site had been quite good and then heJun 10 15:30
techrights[sec]_suddenly quite.  Starks had an exteneded bonus run on extra time, he wrote aboutJun 10 15:30
techrights[sec]_hoping for 5 years but ended up being able to contribute a bit more than that.Jun 10 15:30
techrights[sec]_Of note, he wrote about microsofters trying to beat him up at a gas stationJun 10 15:30
techrights[sec]_parking lot once.  Jun 10 15:30
schestowitz-pi2he said i was his hero at one point, the BN daysJun 10 15:30
schestowitz-pi2he used to write in fossforce before vanishingJun 10 15:31
techrights[sec]_Nice.  Congrats.Jun 10 15:31
schestowitz-pi2military -> neglect -> smoking -Jun 10 15:32
schestowitz-pi2.> throat cancer -> cannot talkJun 10 15:32
techrights[sec]_I didn't know the cause but did know he had been in the militaryJun 10 15:34
schestowitz-pi2put tux in indy carsJun 10 15:35
schestowitz-pi2make zemlin 1.3 million/annum :-)Jun 10 15:35
schestowitz-pi2without even using the LJun 10 15:35
schestowitz-pi2he is still shrewd enough to know what LF is for (Ken)Jun 10 15:39
schestowitz-pi2so was ChristineJun 10 15:39
schestowitz-pi2but then she sold outJun 10 15:39
schestowitz-pi2and now fossforce is dead, againJun 10 15:39
schestowitz-pi2those days of LF shilling all over the site maybe bought food for a monthJun 10 15:39
techrights[sec]_a month at a time :(Jun 10 15:40
schestowitz-pi2"I've had friends who have had strokes. It's no fun for them Wishing him the best.Jun 10 15:41
schestowitz-pi2"Jun 10 15:41
schestowitz-pi2my dad was in switzerland last weekendJun 10 15:42
schestowitz-pi2climbed the hills of zermatt, 1000m per dayJun 10 15:42
schestowitz-pi2pacemaker still working, knock on woodJun 10 15:42
techrights[sec]_climbin hills is a lot of effort.  Hiking in mountains is *very* hard.Jun 10 15:43
schestowitz-pi2more motivating then a machine in a gymJun 10 15:44
schestowitz-pi2i like cycling, time flies, we also have special track as there is a largeJun 10 15:44
schestowitz-pi2BMX facility here for competiton Jun 10 15:44
schestowitz-pi2500m from us, so taking advantageJun 10 15:44
schestowitz-pi2*thanJun 10 15:44
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techrights[sec]_Should the -o option for rrrr.py be make obligatory with a look towardsJun 10 16:06
techrights[sec]_adding in GUI support enough to replace some of the shell script wrapper?Jun 10 16:06
schestowitz-pi2~/rss-tools$ cat ./rrrrr.shJun 10 16:06
schestowitz-pi2./rrrrr.py  --open ../roy-feeds.opml > 09.htmlJun 10 16:06
techrights[sec]_Yes, but I am wondering about the use-case where someone just clicks on Jun 10 16:12
techrights[sec]_the icon without having prepared it for redirection.  I wonder shouldJun 10 16:12
techrights[sec]_we worry about that.  I am thinking about what might be needed to packageJun 10 16:12
techrights[sec]_it up as a .debJun 10 16:12
techrights-newsLinks 10/06/2023: Debian 12 β€œBookworm” | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/10/debian-12-bookworm/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/10/debian-12-bookworm/Jun 10 16:12
schestowitz-pi2that might be maintenance overheadJun 10 16:13
schestowitz-pi2apt-get install dialogJun 10 16:13
techrights[sec]_No need to maintain it, and the source files that go into a .deb generally don'tJun 10 16:16
techrights[sec]_change so even with maintenance it would not be much time.  Jun 10 16:16
schestowitz-pi2would there be a gui element just to run, or for more parama/inputs?Jun 10 16:17
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schestowitz-pi2i wrote lots of guis for my own programsJun 10 16:19
schestowitz-pi2but in hindsight i was likely the only person using those guisJun 10 16:19
schestowitz-pi2that gave experience with many frameworksJun 10 16:19
schestowitz-pi2but i'd not do that again myselfJun 10 16:19
techrights[sec]_Yes though this is a good excuse to learn tkinter a bit and might have minimalJun 10 16:20
techrights[sec]_enhancement to the script.  Jun 10 16:20
techrights[sec]_There is a high risk of creeping featurism though.  Keeping it simple is a Jun 10 16:20
techrights[sec]_high priority,Jun 10 16:20
schestowitz-pi2i used about half a dozen toolkits for guisJun 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi2in hindsight i appreciate the experience and learningJun 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi2and i also made to #1 in the world in matlab centalJun 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi2but for practical purposes, as figosdev found with his own editorJun 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi2*tk/tclJun 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi2he might be scratching the itch of one personJun 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi2i ran his editopr here too, but didn't stick with itJun 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi2(off-topic note: we don't know what future jobs will request for skillsJun 10 16:24
schestowitz-pi2but it's not windows, hey hi, or metaverse)Jun 10 16:24
schestowitz-pi2today i got paid for a little site work, wordpressJun 10 16:24
techrights[sec]_Nice.  You've been working with / developing Wordpress since the beginningJun 10 16:31
techrights[sec]_so it is an easy task for you and thus worth taking on.Jun 10 16:31
schestowitz-pi2wordpress is 20Jun 10 16:32
schestowitz-pi2i started 19 years agoJun 10 16:32
schestowitz-pi2i am among the first bfew wordpress.com accounts tooJun 10 16:32
schestowitz-pi2as a ytesterJun 10 16:32
schestowitz-pi2the wp-hackers mailing lists prove itJun 10 16:32
schestowitz-pi2i did the mailing lists' stats for yearsJun 10 16:32
schestowitz-pi2on xmas day etc. i did support tickets, gratisJun 10 16:33
schestowitz-pi2it was smaller back thenJun 10 16:33
schestowitz-pi2used TracJun 10 16:33
techrights[sec]_About the future not being Windows, what to do about the Windows users who Jun 10 16:34
techrights[sec]_have been pretending to be in IT and who likely will try to continue to pretendJun 10 16:34
techrights[sec]_so.  Jun 10 16:34
techrights[sec]_Yes. I recall several "small" CMS back then of which WP was one.Jun 10 16:34
schestowitz-pi2MSFTers cannot find jobs nowJun 10 16:35
schestowitz-pi2wrong 'skill' setsJun 10 16:35
schestowitz-pi2people develop with LAMP etcJun 10 16:35
schestowitz-pi2they don't want a MSFT salesperson working in-house Jun 10 16:35
schestowitz-pi2outsourcing the data and insourcing lockinJun 10 16:35
techrights[sec]_No that is a good sign but the stigma really needs to mark them as unemployableJun 10 16:35
techrights[sec]_in IT forever.  It's not just that the skills are not transferable but theJun 10 16:35
techrights[sec]_very mindset is not transferrable or appropriate outside of reselling MSFTJun 10 16:35
schestowitz-pi2i pushed this stigma twice in headlines of tuxmachines this past weekJun 10 16:36
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psydruidMSFTers are a lot like Islamists who occupy entire neighbourhoods and make them into no-go zonesJun 10 16:42
techrights[sec]_GoodJun 10 16:44
techrights[sec]_Can the individuals be re-tooled in such a way as to enable them to contributweJun 10 16:44
techrights[sec]_to society without a risk of recidivism and without letting their m$ "ethics"Jun 10 16:44
techrights[sec]_taint other branches?Jun 10 16:44
psydruidI don't think soJun 10 16:44
schestowitz-pi2mitchell is okJun 10 16:44
schestowitz-pi2and said good things about meJun 10 16:44
schestowitz-pi2he clearly did not like MSFTJun 10 16:45
schestowitz-pi2but saw it from the insideJun 10 16:45
schestowitz-pi2when he spoke out they eliminated himJun 10 16:45
schestowitz-pi2like a cultJun 10 16:45
schestowitz-pi2psydruid: yes, they need job changeJun 10 16:45
psydruidor only with huge effortJun 10 16:45
techrights[sec]_They only tolerate 100% loyalty to the cult.  They wanted to hire LundukeJun 10 16:49
techrights[sec]_who was already a consultant for them but he failed one single question onJun 10 16:49
techrights[sec]_the interview because he did not mind (actually enjoyed) running Solaris andJun 10 16:49
techrights[sec]_MacOS.  Jun 10 16:49
psydruidWhich is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.Jun 10 16:53
psydruidNo wonder M$ never reached out to me.Jun 10 16:53
psydruidI wouldn't have gone to work for them anywayJun 10 16:53
psydruidI notice they are somehow afraid of me even when they see me in person.Jun 10 16:55
psydruidAs if they know I am an enemy of their businessJun 10 16:55
schestowitz-pi2this is one strategyJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2hire enemiesJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2to take them out Jun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2like oil companies doJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2they hire the activists and protest leadersJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2no more protests against oil giantsJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2"strategic" hiringJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2then they fire themJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2and nobody trusts themJun 10 16:59
schestowitz-pi2because they worked for the "enemy"Jun 10 17:00
schestowitz-pi2kickoff in 3 hoursJun 10 17:00
schestowitz-pi2there is also a concert here in the mancity standiumJun 10 17:00
schestowitz-pi2not relatedJun 10 17:00
schestowitz-pi2fans started their pilgrimage there this morningJun 10 17:01
schestowitz-pi2i saw them twice today going past the stadium in the bikeJun 10 17:01
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Saudi Arabia is requiring companies to establish headquarters in the kingdom. That strategy may pay off. ☞ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/saudi-arabia-headquarters-economy/Jun 10 17:04
techrights[sec]_Big Oil and even the US Gov have trained the populace to mindlessly acceptJun 10 17:05
techrights[sec]_price changes in fuel as approval or disapproval of the incumbent administrationJun 10 17:05
schestowitz-pi2"Thank you for everything you've done for this site and community. After I became an editoJun 10 17:13
schestowitz-pi2r, despite the fact that I don't make it over to IRC much at all, you would always reach oJun 10 17:13
schestowitz-pi2ut to me when I hit various story milestones and I am very happy that I can now return theJun 10 17:13
schestowitz-pi2 favor. "Jun 10 17:13
schestowitz-pi2did they improve their control over IRC?Jun 10 17:13
schestowitz-pi2or ousourced?Jun 10 17:13
schestowitz-pi2or can "disappear"?Jun 10 17:13
techrights[sec]_Not sure.  No information about the channel where to find it, not even in the Jun 10 17:17
techrights[sec]_FAQJun 10 17:17
techrights[sec]_Does chat.soylentnews.org have anything running?  Or  irc.sylnt.us  ?Jun 10 17:17
techrights[sec]_or irc.soylentnews.org ?Jun 10 17:18
schestowitz-pi2i'm inJun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2rJun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2* There are 0 users and 90 invisible on 3 serversJun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2* 4 :IRC Operators onlineJun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2* 53 :channels formedJun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2* I have 45 clients and 2 serversJun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2* 45 45 :Current local users 45, max 45Jun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2* 90 90 :Current global users 90, max 90Jun 10 17:19
schestowitz-pi2* Highest connection count: 47 (45 clients) (62 connections received)Jun 10 17:19
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techrights[sec]_Maybe someone suckered the population into getting  Jun 10 17:24
techrights[sec]_captured by libera?Jun 10 17:24
schestowitz-pi2their network is smaller than oursJun 10 17:26
schestowitz-pi2and multi-VMJun 10 17:26
schestowitz-pi2probably linode or somethingJun 10 17:26
schestowitz-pi2liberal will be gone in a few yearsJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2there will be some falloutJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2we will still be okJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2just need to eat, sleep etc.     Jun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2sleep cycle says I should rest soonJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2than resume 10pmJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi26:50am marketJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2*thenJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2i never say gn in irc as that can help trollsJun 10 17:29
techrights[sec]_and then it wil be time to bang the self-hosting drum some moreJun 10 17:29
techrights[sec]_I'll probably stay home all morning tomorrowJun 10 17:29
schestowitz-pi2we made software for self-hosting videosJun 10 17:31
schestowitz-pi2maybe we'll 'shill' it some more after indivious has knives in its backJun 10 17:31
schestowitz-pi2apachelog says in past 80 days (last reboot) 1.5MB/sec averageJun 10 17:31
techrights[sec]_For which host Jun 10 17:40
techrights[sec]_?Jun 10 17:40
techrights[sec]_TR is afflicted by a lot of botsJun 10 17:40
techrights[sec]_tm-new some bots but mostly organic visitsJun 10 17:40
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