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techrights-newsGemini Links 09/08/2023: Risk of Proprietary Web Apps | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/09/risk-of-proprietary-web-apps/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/09/risk-of-proprietary-web-apps/Aug 10 02:24
techrights-newsLinks 09/08/2023: Indian Defense Services Moving to GNU/Linux, WordPress 6.3 “Lionel” Released | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/09/wordpress-6-3-lionel-released/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/09/wordpress-6-3-lionel-released/Aug 10 02:45
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): WordPress 6.3 “Lionel” ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/WordPress_6_3_Lionel.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/WordPress_6_3_Lionel.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:03
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:04
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: he impersonated yesterdayAug 10 03:05
schestowitzwhile afkAug 10 03:05
schestowitzused your nickname with "_" at the endAug 10 03:05
schestowitzanother case of impersonationAug 10 03:05
schestowitzbut at this point that's a lot less severe than some of the actual crimes committed Aug 10 03:05
psydruidand impersonated me todayAug 10 03:13
psydruidsick perverted personAug 10 03:13
psydruidI think immibis did it before tooAug 10 03:14
psydruidand these people should be examples in the fake free software communityAug 10 03:14
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 'Linux' Foundation, Microsoft, and More Proprietary Software ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/_Linux_Foundation_Microsoft_and_More_Proprietary_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/_Linux_Foundation_Microsoft_and_More_Proprietary_Software.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:16
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Shows: Destination Linux and Ubuntu Podcast ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Shows_Destination_Linux_and_Ubuntu_Podcast.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Shows_Destination_Linux_and_Ubuntu_Podcast.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:16
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Devices: Old Amiga, Light Systems and Refurbished Steam Decks ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Devices_Old_Amiga_Light_Systems_and_Refurbished_Steam_Decks.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Devices_Old_Amiga_Light_Systems_and_Refurbished_Steam_Decks.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:16
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Software: GStreamer, PL/R, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Software_GStreamer_PL_R_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Software_GStreamer_PL_R_and_More.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:16
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Aug 10 03:16
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psydruidI guess I triggered him to reveal himselfAug 10 03:43
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techrights-newsRhino Linux is a rolling release, Ubuntu-based Linux distro with PC, PinePhone, and PineTab support https://liliputing.com/rhino-linux-is-a-rolling-release-ubuntu-based-linux-distro-with-pc-pinephone-and-pinetab-support/Aug 10 04:19
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Aug 10 04:32
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kernel: LWN Articles and Removal of “fTPM” Garbage ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Kernel_LWN_Articles_and_Removal_of_fTPM_Garbage.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Kernel_LWN_Articles_and_Removal_of_fTPM_Garbage.gmi ∎Aug 10 04:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Security_patches_and_breaches.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Security_patches_and_breaches.gmi ∎Aug 10 04:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Valley News - PSU robot program has a new goal: Fixing automated scarecrows ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Valley_News_PSU_robot_program_has_a_new_goal_Fixing_automated_s.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Valley_News_PSU_robot_program_has_a_new_goal_Fixing_automated_s.gmi ∎Aug 10 04:51
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Please help test (and fix) GTG’s GTK 4 port ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Please_help_test_and_fix_GTG_s_GTK_4_port.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Please_help_test_and_fix_GTG_s_GTK_4_port.gmi ∎Aug 10 07:52
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Firefox Tests Privacy-Friendly Web Translation Feature ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Firefox_Tests_Privacy_Friendly_Web_Translation_Feature.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Firefox_Tests_Privacy_Friendly_Web_Translation_Feature.gmi ∎Aug 10 07:52
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Debian Linux is Joining The RISC-V Bandwagon ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Debian_Linux_is_Joining_The_RISC_V_Bandwagon.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Debian_Linux_is_Joining_The_RISC_V_Bandwagon.gmi ∎Aug 10 07:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Boost Productivity and Style: Discover the Top 20 GNOME Extensions ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Boost_Productivity_and_Style_Discover_the_Top_20_GNOME_Extensio.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Boost_Productivity_and_Style_Discover_the_Top_20_GNOME_Extensio.gmi ∎Aug 10 07:54
techrights[sec]_if there are any links to old CNet articles in previous posts, they should Aug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_be cached in the Internet Archive or else Archive.is or both ASAP, Aug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_because CNET is deleting old articles.  If they get away with it, thenAug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_other sites will copy those actions.  Remember, the old articles told theAug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_truth about m$ and his billness.  Aug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_There is no economic incentive to deletion.  My guess is that it is   Aug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_something more nefarious like paving the way for additional revisionismAug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_in regards to m$ and bill  Aug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_More like CNet's ranking has been dropping due to it smearing AI-generatedAug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_"content" in place of actual articles of late.  Aug 10 08:03
techrights[sec]_What is Red Ventures tie to m$ and his billness, and what else do they own?Aug 10 08:03
schestowitz-pi3weirdAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3i forgot to share with you the link about exactly didAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3after i posted 2 links in ircAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3i had seen the news about thatAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3i don't know of such a connectionAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3wayback machine keeps older copies (before deletion)Aug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3over 15 years ago i used to have a bot scrape every article that i linked toAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3but i gave up on that years laterAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3(trolling in irc still wastes time; banning, as i expected all along, would notAug 10 08:06
schestowitz-pi3be the end of it)Aug 10 08:06
techrights-newsIBM Red Hat Kills LibreOffice In Fedora and RHEL; Says “No longer has resources to maintain them.” | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/red-hat-kills-libreoffice/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/red-hat-kills-libreoffice/Aug 10 08:15
techrights[sec]_Scraping locally is useful.   Caching at IA or Archive.is is too.  I wonderAug 10 08:30
techrights[sec]_if the latter can be automated without javascript.Aug 10 08:30
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat Fedora: Community Of Moderator-Led Harassment. (Very Family-Oriented.) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/moderator-led-harassment/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/moderator-led-harassment/Aug 10 08:38
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): IBM Red Hat Kills LibreOffice In Fedora and RHEL; Says “No longer has resources to maintain them.” ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/IBM_Red_Hat_Kills_LibreOffice_In_Fedora_and_RHEL_Says_No_longer.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/IBM_Red_Hat_Kills_LibreOffice_In_Fedora_and_RHEL_Says_No_longer.gmi ∎Aug 10 08:50
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): YY3568 ARM mini PC runs Linux or Android ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/YY3568_ARM_mini_PC_runs_Linux_or_Android.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/YY3568_ARM_mini_PC_runs_Linux_or_Android.gmi ∎Aug 10 08:51
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 09, 2023 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/irc-log-090823/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/irc-log-090823/Aug 10 08:56
schestowitz-pi3rianne has nearly caught up with this week for evidence collectionAug 10 08:57
schestowitz-pi3then we can fire like a space rocketAug 10 08:57
schestowitz-pi3and we can 'aaron swartz' himAug 10 08:57
techrights[sec]_He's an annoyance to be sure, and the damage he has done to computing is Aug 10 09:30
techrights[sec]_massive, but he is only a catspaw. Aug 10 09:30
techrights[sec]_One of many. Aug 10 09:30
schestowitz-pi3so let's make an examplewAug 10 09:30
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techrights[sec]_If his connection to m$ could be traced somehow, that would be of monumentalAug 10 09:46
techrights[sec]_benefit to the world.  Aug 10 09:46
techrights[sec]_After all, he did sabotage computing by takign the court off of m$ back.Aug 10 09:46
schestowitz-pi3in irc he contantly defended micerosoft and pushed microsoft using his sockpuppetsAug 10 09:47
schestowitz-pi3they also offered him a job, he saidAug 10 09:47
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techrights[sec]_Cancelling is a powerful tool of the microsofters and pushing their CoCs intoAug 10 10:06
techrights[sec]_projects has amplified that attack greatly.  Aug 10 10:06
schestowitz-pi3lots of arse-handing today in ircAug 10 10:07
schestowitz-pi3i think that is worth the time tbhAug 10 10:07
schestowitz-pi3i am now drowning in topic atm, plus rianne is nearly done with the 'paralegal' stuffAug 10 10:07
schestowitz-pi3gulagboy lives in thbe firest nowAug 10 10:11
schestowitz-pi3*forestAug 10 10:11
schestowitz-pi3<DaemonFC> He can't help himself.Aug 10 10:12
schestowitz-pi3<DaemonFC> He has to put it all out there.Aug 10 10:12
schestowitz-pi3<schestowitz> life is really giving him lobsterAug 10 10:12
techrights[sec]_checkingAug 10 10:12
techrights[sec]_keep in mind that it might be possible for others to spoof his writing styleAug 10 10:12
techrights[sec]_and other patterns, albeit unlikely.  Aug 10 10:12
schestowitz-pi3improbable, and I will show whyAug 10 10:13
schestowitz-pi3inc. letters he sendsAug 10 10:13
schestowitz-pi3and his mastodon accountAug 10 10:13
schestowitz-pi3even direct-messages me this morningAug 10 10:13
schestowitz-pi3he is f*edAug 10 10:13
schestowitz-pi3<DaemonFC> Then he acts like some dilapidated cabin in the woods with no water is better than San Francisco.Aug 10 10:13
schestowitz-pi3<DaemonFC> Matthew Garrett @mjg59Aug 10 11:12
schestowitz-pi3<DaemonFC> It's been a few months and we still don't have a water supply at our cabin because chunks of infrastructure washed away in flash floods after the unusual quantities of rain this winter and we keep finding unexpected issues that prevent us from fixing it properly like "This pipe is unexpectedly an entirely different size" and somehow this is still less frustrating than yet another round of CPU vulnerabilitiesAug 10 11:12
techrights[sec]_1) convert everything to digitalAug 10 11:19
techrights[sec]_2) burn or otherwise destroy all physical copiesAug 10 11:19
techrights[sec]_3) ensure that there is only one single digital copy anywhere in the whole worldAug 10 11:19
techrights[sec]_4) delete that copyAug 10 11:19
techrights[sec]_5) write a fictiticous account to replace the now hidden factsAug 10 11:19
techrights[sec]_Red Ventures apparent playbook, but on behalf of whom?Aug 10 11:19
techrights[sec]_^fictitiousAug 10 11:19
techrights[sec]_biabAug 10 11:25
techrights[sec]_back already, it /just/ started raining hardAug 10 11:26
techrights[sec]_radar shows it'll go for a whileAug 10 11:26
*MinceR gives voice to DaemonFC psydruid NoisytootAug 10 11:40
schestowitz-pi3Hi RMS,Aug 10 11:40
schestowitz-pi3For your information, my wife and I opened several criminal cases in the UK against Matthew Garrett for he had engaged in very menacing, threatening and illegal behavior. He seems to have lost his home, he's a cocaine addict, and he has been trolling our IRC network for months using racist sockpuppets (he targeted you too, using those same sockpuppets). He also makes references to knives, blades, axes while doxing our home address.Aug 10 11:40
schestowitz-pi3We will be writing more about this in the future.Aug 10 11:40
schestowitz-pi3Regards,Aug 10 11:40
schestowitz-pi3mjg is "tooting" references to his own deathsAug 10 11:56
schestowitz-pi3from his official accountAug 10 11:56
schestowitz-pi3some screw is missingAug 10 11:56
schestowitz-pi3rianne taking screenshotsAug 10 11:56
psydruida grave danger to societyAug 10 11:58
psydruidlike "Michael"Aug 10 11:58
psydruidand their idol the unambomberAug 10 11:58
techrights[sec]_crazy matt is crazy.  Mastodon is not much better than the birdsite.Aug 10 12:04
techrights[sec]_Screenshots are important.  For what he's done against FOSS in generalAug 10 12:04
techrights[sec]_and with restricted boot against computing as a whole, he's coming back as aAug 10 12:04
techrights[sec]_bug at best more likely a Hungry Ghost(tm) next time.  It's that month approximately now.Aug 10 12:04
schestowitz-pi3https://www.r-consortium.org/about/governanceAug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3# see also exec dir link in daily linksAug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3i see 2 in total from github/linkedin/msftAug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3checking the other linkAug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/08/new-executive-director-position-created-at-r-consortium/Aug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3"Motivated by the growth of the R Consortium over the past several years and the expansion of activitiesAug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3, the R Consortium Board of Directors has taken a step to ensure long-term, consistent oversight of day-Aug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3to-day activities.Aug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3The R Consortium is pleased to announce that Joseph Rickert has been appointed to the position of ExecutAug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3ive Director reporting directly to the Board of Directors."Aug 10 12:05
techrights[sec]_There are no safe levels.  :/Aug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3in relative terms not "much" MSFT there yetAug 10 12:05
schestowitz-pi3maybe there are more, who do not disclosure it  Aug 10 12:07
schestowitz-pi3maybe a third one would sound the alarmAug 10 12:07
schestowitz-pi3like LF the other day 55%+ GoolesoftAug 10 12:07
techrights[sec]_biabAug 10 12:17
techrights[sec]_+Aug 10 12:17
schestowitz-pi3<schestowitz> <DopeDealaNigga> HEY HIAug 10 12:30
schestowitz-pi3<schestowitz> <DopeDealaNigga> I think somebody getting bodied on the weekday, get out the wayAug 10 12:30
schestowitz-pi3<psydruid> absolutely trash culture that they're trying to spread everywhereAug 10 12:30
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Resident Evil Village, Vagrus - The Riven Realms, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Games_Resident_Evil_Village_Vagrus_The_Riven_Realms_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Games_Resident_Evil_Village_Vagrus_The_Riven_Realms_and_More.gmi ∎Aug 10 12:35
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Aug 10 12:35
techrights[sec]_back.  1.5 good mushroomsAug 10 12:52
techrights[sec]_with the warm, wet weather all kinds of worms find them quicklyAug 10 12:52
techrights[sec]_so there is a race.  If I missed any today, they'll be unsalvagable tomorrowAug 10 12:52
schestowitz-pi3many berries grow around hereAug 10 12:53
schestowitz-pi3can get hundreds in one tripAug 10 12:53
techrights[sec]_Nice.  It is time to pick bilberries, but a matter of arranging timeAug 10 12:54
techrights[sec]_Maybe the weekend after next.  Aug 10 12:54
techrights[sec]_Hopefully we can get a few large buckets full then.  Aug 10 13:14
techrights[sec]_Google is censoring APRIL's investigation into M$ corruption in Germany:Aug 10 13:25
techrights[sec]_https://youtu.be/_wGLS2rSQPQAug 10 13:25
techrights[sec]_Perhapst this one is the same content: Aug 10 13:25
techrights[sec]_https://youtu.be/duaYLW7LQvgAug 10 13:25
techrights[sec]_https://www.april.org/en/microsoft-cyber-attack-a-german-documentary-ard-relations-between-microsoft-and-public-administratioAug 10 13:27
schestowitz-pi3brb phone, policeAug 10 13:28
psydruidwhat does Google have to gain by censoring M$ on GulagTube?Aug 10 13:29
psydruidcensoring negative talk about M$Aug 10 13:29
psydruidthat they want to portray themselves as being in the same class as other malicious corporations?Aug 10 13:30
schestowitz-pi3yes, it's intriguingAug 10 13:42
schestowitz-pi3spoke to about 5 people already, about 7 calls, total 3+ hoursAug 10 13:48
schestowitz-pi3credit to them, they don't disregard or belittle the matterAug 10 13:48
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techrights[sec]_That's a lot of administriviaAug 10 13:49
techrights[sec]_That is a positive change Aug 10 13:49
schestowitz-pi3(i am working non-step, if i do not publish much, that just means rianne and i work onAug 10 13:51
schestowitz-pi3something)Aug 10 13:51
techrights[sec]_I hope you are keeping written notes of the phone calls about who was spokenAug 10 13:51
techrights[sec]_to, when, and what about.  It makes pushing the case through the system a bitAug 10 13:51
techrights[sec]_easier that way.   Aug 10 13:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Windows Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Windows_Total_Cost_of_Ownership_TCO.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Windows_Total_Cost_of_Ownership_TCO.gmi ∎Aug 10 13:52
schestowitz-pi3priority #1: keeping on top of newsAug 10 13:52
schestowitz-pi3yes, we keep detailed notesAug 10 13:52
schestowitz-pi3rianne is tidyAug 10 13:52
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Mozilla and Proprietary/Artificial Intelligence (AI) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Mozilla_and_Proprietary_Artificial_Intelligence_AI.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Mozilla_and_Proprietary_Artificial_Intelligence_AI.gmi ∎Aug 10 14:01
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: Arduino and Raspberry Pi ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_Raspberry_Pi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_Raspberry_Pi.gmi ∎Aug 10 14:01
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Free Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Free_Software_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Free_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎Aug 10 14:02
schestowitz-pi3thanks for the urls re cnetAug 10 14:02
schestowitz-pi3helps reaffirm what we said for a long time re wwwAug 10 14:02
schestowitz-pi3hmm... google uk "Drew DeVault"Aug 10 14:06
schestowitz-pi3#4 resultas is TRAug 10 14:06
schestowitz-pi3i was just about to add a photoAug 10 14:06
schestowitz-pi3for TMAug 10 14:06
techrights[sec]_checking  Aug 10 14:13
techrights[sec]_top result in StartPageAug 10 14:13
techrights[sec]_same in GoogleAug 10 14:13
techrights[sec]_"lost the plot"Aug 10 14:13
schestowitz-pi3it was politely putAug 10 14:14
schestowitz-pi3the headline ... hmmm... a big vagueAug 10 14:14
schestowitz-pi3anyway, i am back in the groove and normal pace nowAug 10 14:14
schestowitz-pi3as the trolling abated for 1.5 hoursAug 10 14:14
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Hello from Ares! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Hello_from_Ares.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Hello_from_Ares.gmi ∎Aug 10 14:14
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Aug 10 14:14
techrights-newsGemini Links 10/08/2023: Self-Hosted Web and Gemini, Why Stay With Gemini | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/why-stay-with-gemini/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/why-stay-with-gemini/Aug 10 14:20
techrights[sec]_Just learned about 'exiv2' to sort images using EXIF data.  Aug 10 14:36
techrights[sec]_About Drew, I hope two things.  One is that he is recovering from burnout.  TwoAug 10 14:36
techrights[sec]_Second is that he reexamines his position on Software Freedom and the peopleAug 10 14:36
techrights[sec]_and organizations involved.  Aug 10 14:36
schestowitz-pi3i havs great respect for himAug 10 14:37
schestowitz-pi3the title could be betterAug 10 14:37
schestowitz-pi3anyway, i put his latest in TMAug 10 14:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎Aug 10 14:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): The Raspberry Pi RP2040 Runs Doom on a Keycap ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/The_Raspberry_Pi_RP2040_Runs_Doom_on_a_Keycap.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/The_Raspberry_Pi_RP2040_Runs_Doom_on_a_Keycap.gmi ∎Aug 10 14:51
schestowitz-pi3http://techrights.org/2016/01/30/r-project-microsoft/Aug 10 14:55
schestowitz-pi3http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/Aug 10 14:55
schestowitz-pi3what _new_ info have we got?Aug 10 14:55
schestowitz-pi3extra: do the linkedin pages reveal _MORE_ msfters in leadership position? Aug 10 14:55
techrights-newsLeftover Links 10/08/2023: CNET is Burning Past Journalism | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/cnet-is-burning-past-journalism/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/cnet-is-burning-past-journalism/Aug 10 15:00
techrights-newsLinks 10/08/2023: More on India’s Defence Ministry (Moving to GNU/Linux!) and LWN’s Kernel Journalism | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/lwn-kernel-journalism/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/lwn-kernel-journalism/Aug 10 15:05
techrights[sec]_checkingAug 10 15:05
schestowitz-pi3TR has been getting a lot of support latelyAug 10 15:06
schestowitz-pi3we cover topics others would not touchAug 10 15:06
schestowitz-pi3hence the trolling/abuseAug 10 15:06
techrights[sec]_Yes, unique coverage of essential topics increases the trolling, which canAug 10 15:15
techrights[sec]_be taken as a confirmation.  Aug 10 15:15
techrights[sec]_(was just on the phone, my mom broke her knee and foot and is in the hospital)Aug 10 15:15
techrights[sec]_About R, there are two entities.  One was mostly independent of or clean fromAug 10 15:15
techrights[sec]_m$ influence, but last I checked was very many years ago.  Aug 10 15:15
techrights[sec]_The new info might pertain to board compositions and fundingAug 10 15:18
schestowitz-pi3the ability to walk is crucial for general healthAug 10 15:20
schestowitz-pi3the important thing is hip area, rianne saysAug 10 15:20
schestowitz-pi3otherwise there can be deteriorationAug 10 15:20
schestowitz-pi3there are likely more from msft in r consortiumAug 10 15:20
schestowitz-pi3without the affiliation named in the pageAug 10 15:20
techrights[sec]_Yes, there will be follow-on harms from extended immobility and later Aug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_constrained mobility.   I hope this is not the beginning of the end.  Aug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_https://www.r-consortium.org/membersAug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_It is very important to stress  the different between the R-FoundationAug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_and the R-ConsoritiumAug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_R-ConsortiunAug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_R-ConsortiumAug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_The R-Consortium is also a LF project and thus has m$ influence at that levelAug 10 15:21
techrights[sec]_as wellAug 10 15:21
schestowitz-pi3given some more time we can research present, past and hidden employment with msftAug 10 15:22
schestowitz-pi3then do a chart of who runs itAug 10 15:22
schestowitz-pi3google is not named even once in the pageAug 10 15:22
schestowitz-pi3i find this hard to believeAug 10 15:23
schestowitz-pi3compare to PSFAug 10 15:23
techrights[sec]_Google is a Silver member of the ConsortiumAug 10 15:28
techrights[sec]_https://www.r-consortium.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2019/11/R-Consortium-Bylaws-1157174-v2-Approved-11.20.19.pdfAug 10 15:28
techrights[sec]_bureaucracyAug 10 15:28
techrights-newsThe World’s Mass Migration to GNU/Linux is Already Happening | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/mass-migration-to-gnu-linux/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/mass-migration-to-gnu-linux/Aug 10 15:34
schestowitz-pi3r is big "business"Aug 10 15:35
schestowitz-pi3and more so in unisAug 10 15:35
schestowitz-pi3where business IS what universities are (now)Aug 10 15:35
techrights[sec]_There is a lot of trouble within universities, too, especially in regardsAug 10 15:40
techrights[sec]_to software.  R is the leader in statistics but SAS and some other garbageAug 10 15:40
techrights[sec]_have large budgets for marketing (lobbying) within / against university Aug 10 15:40
techrights[sec]_decision makers.  So even though faculty members might do 100% of their  Aug 10 15:40
techrights[sec]_stastitical work using R, they might still be forced to teach classes onAug 10 15:40
techrights[sec]_lesser, proprietary alternatives instead which trhe students are /required/ Aug 10 15:40
techrights[sec]_to attend and pass.  (real example)Aug 10 15:40
schestowitz-pi3lobbying and marketing -> sometimes soft bribesAug 10 15:40
schestowitz-pi3or kickbacksAug 10 15:40
schestowitz-pi3or entryism, revolving doorsAug 10 15:40
techrights[sec]_According to the bylaws, Platinum and Silver R-Consortium members vote, butAug 10 15:42
techrights[sec]_the board can allow others to do that too if they so choose.Aug 10 15:42
techrights[sec]_Yes, kickbacks can take many forms.Aug 10 15:42
techrights[sec]_But at the end of the day the problem is that the lesser, proprietary        Aug 10 15:42
techrights[sec]_alternatives are still being taught in priority over RAug 10 15:42
schestowitz-pi3working on itAug 10 15:54
schestowitz-pi35 minsAug 10 15:54
schestowitz-pi3draftAug 10 15:54
techrights[sec]_checking (then away for a while)Aug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_what is the actual link to the R-Consortium's board?  That should be includedAug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_in the post.Aug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_the apostrophe S is not needed with Linux FoundationAug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_maybe "The Linux Foundation, which represents its members' interests withinAug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_Linux, sells voting seats and Microsoft has bought more seats than any otherAug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_company, even Google/AlphabetAug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_"Aug 10 16:03
techrights[sec]_s/One is a front group/The latter is a front group/Aug 10 16:03
schestowitz-pi3adding...Aug 10 16:14
techrights-newsLinux Foundation Fails to Heed the Warning About Microsoft | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/r-consortium-treasurer-is-microsoft/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/r-consortium-treasurer-is-microsoft/Aug 10 16:14
techrights[sec]_Still not clear about the point of the post though.Aug 10 16:20
schestowitz-pi3we have not much _new_ info except how unis are influenced (covered before) and how companiesAug 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi3buy seatsAug 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi3i lack the time due to something that just came inAug 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi3but will follow up laterAug 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi3trying to keep the site flowing as that helps discourage the abuse/trollsAug 10 16:22
schestowitz-pi3demoralise ratherAug 10 16:22
psydruidthey push M$ even though they know it's inferior crapAug 10 16:23
psydruidwhich only serves to demoralise students and staff who know betterAug 10 16:23
psydruidfortunately there were some professors who were staunchly anti-M$Aug 10 16:24
psydruidbut wholy M$ universities existAug 10 16:24
psydruidwholly(Aug 10 16:24
techrights-newsRed Hat is Wrong With Its ’Sky is Falling’ Remark (About Community Regaining Control Over GNU/Linux Development) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/sky-is-falling-fud/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/sky-is-falling-fud/Aug 10 17:18
psydruidthat's what you get when one of the main developers of LibreOffice (Caolán) gets the bootAug 10 17:27
psydruidhttp://www.openoffice.org/porting/porting_overview.htmlAug 10 17:27
techrights-news[Meme] The Man Lies, the Shirt Lies As Well | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/10/mjg-shirt-lies/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/10/mjg-shirt-lies/Aug 10 17:58
techrights[sec]_Posts are what they fear. :)Aug 10 18:07
techrights[sec]_Will be out for some hours, probably starting in about 30 minAug 10 18:07
techrights[sec]_back in some hoursAug 10 18:07
schestowitz-pi3psydruid: yes, and others doAug 10 18:08
schestowitz-pi3*tooAug 10 18:08
schestowitz-pi3collabora then hired himAug 10 18:09
*psydruid checks the user listAug 10 18:21
schestowitz-pi3we have just found examples of mjg abusing trans women in the irc channel under the sockAug 10 18:26
schestowitz-pi3"whitenigger"Aug 10 18:26
schestowitz-pi3dynamiteAug 10 18:26
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Aug 10 18:26
schestowitz-pi3he created the anti-black socks to impose a CoC and try to ban other peopleAug 10 18:31
schestowitz-pi3all this while contacting rianne's boss, who is black, to incite for conflict (same month)Aug 10 18:32
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/10/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎Aug 10 19:19
techrights[sec]_backAug 10 19:20
techrights[sec]_Interesting.  I hope the evidence is solid.  Aug 10 19:20

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