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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.5.5 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/EasyOS_Kirkstone_series_version_5_5_5_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/EasyOS_Kirkstone_series_version_5_5_5_released.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Saloon, Sudo Show, Destination Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Audiocasts_Shows_Linux_Saloon_Sudo_Show_Destination_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Audiocasts_Shows_Linux_Saloon_Sudo_Show_Destination_Linux.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): DebConf23 Coverage From Jonathan McDowell and Jonathan Carter ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/DebConf23_Coverage_From_Jonathan_McDowell_and_Jonathan_Carter.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/DebConf23_Coverage_From_Jonathan_McDowell_and_Jonathan_Carter.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): M5Stack Cardputer ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/M5Stack_Cardputer.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/M5Stack_Cardputer.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:05
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:05
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Russian tech firm Astra Linux plans October IPO on Moscow Exchange ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/02/Russian_tech_firm_Astra_Linux_plans_October_IPO_on_Moscow_Excha.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/02/Russian_tech_firm_Astra_Linux_plans_October_IPO_on_Moscow_Excha.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:05
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update and New Apps of LinuxPhoneApps.org ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_and_New_Apps_of_LinuxPhoneA.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_and_New_Apps_of_LinuxPhoneA.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:05
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): This Week in GNOME and Scarlett Gately Moore's KDE Work ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/This_Week_in_GNOME_and_Scarlett_Gately_Moore_s_KDE_Work.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/This_Week_in_GNOME_and_Scarlett_Gately_Moore_s_KDE_Work.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:06
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 14/10/2023: Hardware Sanction Wars (Loongson and TSMC), California's Right To Repair Bill Signed Into Law ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/14/Links_14_10_2023_Hardware_Sanction_Wars_Loongson_and_TSMC_Calif.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/14/Links_14_10_2023_Hardware_Sanction_Wars_Loongson_and_TSMC_Calif.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:27
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Steam Proton game compatibility report 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Steam_Proton_game_compatibility_report_2023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Steam_Proton_game_compatibility_report_2023.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:28
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Mullvad Browser is a Tor Browser without a Tor Network ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Mullvad_Browser_is_a_Tor_Browser_without_a_Tor_Network.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Mullvad_Browser_is_a_Tor_Browser_without_a_Tor_Network.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:28
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: SparkFun, Raspberry Pi 5, Arduino and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Open_Hardware_SparkFun_Raspberry_Pi_5_Arduino_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Open_Hardware_SparkFun_Raspberry_Pi_5_Arduino_and_More.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:28
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Programming and HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Programming_and_HowTos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/Programming_and_HowTos.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:28
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techrights-news"OpenZFS 2.2 advanced file system and volume manager has been released today with support for the latest Linux kernel series, as well as various new features and many improvements." https://9to5linux.com/openzfs-2-2-released-with-linux-6-5-support-block-cloning-and-moreOct 15 00:34
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techrights-newsTechrights – Microsoft Does Not Teach People #HowTo Install GNU/Linux But Teaches Them How to Avoid It ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/14/Microsoft_Does_Not_Teach_People_How_to_Install_GNU_Linux_But_Te.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/14/Microsoft_Does_Not_Teach_People_How_to_Install_GNU_Linux_But_Te.gmi ∎Oct 15 00:55
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techrights-newsTechrights – In Defense of Richard Stallman and Eben Moglen ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/In_Defense_of_Richard_Stallman_and_Eben_Moglen.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/In_Defense_of_Richard_Stallman_and_Eben_Moglen.gmi ∎Oct 15 01:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Oct 15 02:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Speaking About and Spreading the Word (About GNU/Linux) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Speaking_About_and_Spreading_the_Word_About_GNU_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Speaking_About_and_Spreading_the_Word_About_GNU_Linux.gmi ∎Oct 15 02:30
techrights-newsTechrights – Jim Whitehurst Promoting Microsoft Mono for a Living ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Jim_Whitehurst_Promoting_Microsoft_Mono_for_a_Living.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Jim_Whitehurst_Promoting_Microsoft_Mono_for_a_Living.gmi ∎Oct 15 02:31
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Oct 15 02:31
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 14, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/irc-log-141023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/irc-log-141023.gmi ∎Oct 15 03:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Speaking About and Spreading the Word (About GNU/Linux) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Speaking_About_and_Spreading_the_Word_About_GNU_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Speaking_About_and_Spreading_the_Word_About_GNU_Linux.gmi ∎Oct 15 03:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Critique of "Clown Computing" Orthodoxy by Helen Plews and Andy Farnell ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Critique_of_Clown_Computing_Orthodoxy_by_Helen_Plews_and_Andy_F.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Critique_of_Clown_Computing_Orthodoxy_by_Helen_Plews_and_Andy_F.gmi ∎Oct 15 03:08
schestowitz-piencoding their video atmOct 15 04:24
schestowitz-piLOL, he tells the crowd "CLOWN" computingOct 15 04:24
schestowitz-pisuccess :-)Oct 15 04:24
schestowitz-piyou will LOVE their talk!Oct 15 04:27
techrights-newsTechrights – Crossed Fingers for Software Freedom and Wider Adoption of GNU/Linux (or the Various BSDs) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Crossed_Fingers_for_Software_Freedom_and_Wider_Adoption_of_GNU_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Crossed_Fingers_for_Software_Freedom_and_Wider_Adoption_of_GNU_.gmi ∎Oct 15 05:30
techrights-newsTechrights – Greg Kroah-Hartman (K-H) is the Voice of the 'Linux' Foundation (Zemlin, Microsoft, Novell Etc.), Not the Voice of Linux or Its Community ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Greg_Kroah_Hartman_K_H_is_the_Voice_of_the_Linux_Foundation_Zem.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Greg_Kroah_Hartman_K_H_is_the_Voice_of_the_Linux_Foundation_Zem.gmi ∎Oct 15 05:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Liars at Microsoft Tell You #HowTo Install 'Linux' (as Long as Windows is in Control of It and Microsoft Controls the User) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Liars_at_Microsoft_Tell_You_How_to_Install_Linux_as_Long_as_Win.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Liars_at_Microsoft_Tell_You_How_to_Install_Linux_as_Long_as_Win.gmi Oct 15 05:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Back in FOSS Force ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Back_in_FOSS_Force.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Back_in_FOSS_Force.gmi ∎Oct 15 05:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Critique of "Clown Computing" Orthodoxy by Helen Plews and Andy Farnell ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Critique_of_Clown_Computing_Orthodoxy_by_Helen_Plews_and_Andy_F.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Critique_of_Clown_Computing_Orthodoxy_by_Helen_Plews_and_Andy_F.gmi ∎Oct 15 05:31
techrights-seccheckingOct 15 05:52
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schestowitz-pithis covers SO much of what TR talked about for yearsOct 15 05:53
schestowitz-pithey are a powerful ally for our "thesis"Oct 15 05:53
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Society Cannot Bear Social Control Media for Much Longer ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Society_Cannot_Bear_Social_Control_Media_for_Much_Longer.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Society_Cannot_Bear_Social_Control_Media_for_Much_Longer.gmi ∎Oct 15 06:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Oct 15 06:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): #HowTo Stop GNOME Software from Running in the Background ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/How_to_Stop_GNOME_Software_from_Running_in_the_Background.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/How_to_Stop_GNOME_Software_from_Running_in_the_Background.gmi ∎Oct 15 06:30
techrights-seccheckingOct 15 09:58
techrights-secWas there only the YouTube link on their page?  No self-hosted video?Oct 15 09:58
techrights-sectransferring files from .66 to .40 to use more appropriate hardwareOct 15 09:58
techrights-secthe latter has a broken screen in addition to generally lower powerOct 15 09:58
techrights-secconsumptionOct 15 09:58
techrights-secETA some hoursOct 15 09:58
techrights-secthe other machine is also less prone to overheatingOct 15 09:58
schestowitz-piback from marketOct 15 09:59
schestowitz-pifocused not on foods (have enough)Oct 15 09:59
schestowitz-pithe encoding is now finishedOct 15 09:59
schestowitz-piyes, they only used gulag clown for video hostingOct 15 09:59
schestowitz-pi(the irony!)Oct 15 09:59
techrights-secthe discussion was often off-micOct 15 09:59
schestowitz-pii included those parts tooOct 15 09:59
schestowitz-pibrb uploadingOct 15 10:00
techrights-secPage 143 of Cory's book, "The Internet Con..." talks about astrotrufers andOct 15 10:03
techrights-sectheir attacks, brieflyOct 15 10:03
schestowitz-picory got abuse in twitterOct 15 10:04
schestowitz-piesp. the alt reich typesOct 15 10:04
schestowitz-piit's part of the "total cost of activism"Oct 15 10:04
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/New_Public_Talk_by_Helen_Plews_and_Andy_Farnell_About_Clown_Com.shtmlOct 15 10:08
techrights-secHe points out that many are sponsored b y or otherwise working on behalfOct 15 10:09
techrights-secof large corporations.,Oct 15 10:09
schestowitz-pior HOPE to be rewarded fot it laterOct 15 10:10
schestowitz-pilike andre da costaOct 15 10:10
schestowitz-pior peter galli (the anti-ODF shitter, remember him?)Oct 15 10:10
schestowitz-pifake 'journalism';Oct 15 10:10
schestowitz-pimicrosoft then hired him for the PR deptOct 15 10:10
techrights-secyesOct 15 10:16
schestowitz-pithey triggered cory quite badly Oct 15 10:18
schestowitz-piand he 'exploded' at one pointOct 15 10:18
schestowitz-pistarted giving many personal storiesOct 15 10:18
schestowitz-pijk rowling could focus on her site, which she already had, and publish in books formOct 15 10:18
schestowitz-pinot social control shitfarmOct 15 10:18
techrights-secTrueOct 15 10:37
schestowitz-piif you are going to respond to asssoles:Oct 15 10:38
schestowitz-pi1) do it in your own platformsOct 15 10:38
schestowitz-pi2) play offensive, not defensiveOct 15 10:38
schestowitz-pity for the desuper btwOct 15 11:56
schestowitz-pishaves off about 20 mins per wwekend for meOct 15 11:56
schestowitz-piso i can focus on things that cannot be force-multipliedOct 15 11:56
schestowitz-pii will need to think of further betterment modalities for the workflowOct 15 11:56
schestowitz-pisomething the brainsotrming happens by accidentOct 15 11:56
schestowitz-pii make a mistake and then it turns out to be a better wayOct 15 11:56
techrights-secnpOct 15 12:19
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schestowitz-pii need to askOct 15 12:45
schestowitz-pinpr says leaving Twitter had no real effect on trafficOct 15 12:45
schestowitz-piI belive I saw another site saying the same this weekOct 15 12:45
schestowitz-pibut canno recall which one/sOct 15 12:45
techrights-secCory had a discussion of that in his latest blog post too.  Also Nieman Reports.Oct 15 12:48
techrights-sechttps://niemanreports.org/articles/npr-twitter-musk/Oct 15 12:48
techrights-sechttps://pluralistic.net/2023/10/14/freedom-of-reach/#exOct 15 12:48
schestowitz-pibingoOct 15 12:49
schestowitz-picory is where i first saw thatOct 15 12:49
schestowitz-pirelated toOct 15 12:49
schestowitz-pihttp://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Society_Cannot_Bear_Social_Control_Media_for_Much_Longer.shtml" title=Oct 15 12:49
schestowitz-pi"Society Cannot Bear Social Control Media for Much LongerOct 15 12:49
schestowitz-piour bong with cybershow is getting stronger an ed did some pentesting for usOct 15 12:50
schestowitz-pi*bondOct 15 12:50
techrights-secBackground: https://www.npr.org/2023/04/12/1169269161/npr-leaves-twitter-government-funded-media-labelOct 15 12:50
schestowitz-pithanks for the ref, adding to draftOct 15 12:51
schestowitz-pimore people rejecting clownOct 15 12:52
schestowitz-pisocial control mediaOct 15 12:52
schestowitz-piand wordpress etc.Oct 15 12:52
schestowitz-pii hope this mindset spreads like a waveOct 15 12:52
techrights-secWe can hopeOct 15 12:55
techrights-secCory's recent two books are very on topic in that regard.  They're availableOct 15 12:55
techrights-secas audio books, too, if you have a book budget.Oct 15 12:55
schestowitz-pi"Local Newspapers Are Vanishing." β˜› https://www.propublica.org/article/local-newspaper-legacy-springfield-massachusetts | Source: Pro Publica has meanwhile resorted to taking BRIBES from Famous Criminal Bill GatesOct 15 13:18
techrights-secLocal newspapers have already vanished.  The names might survive in randomOct 15 13:29
techrights-secinstances but they are owned by a national company and not used for localOct 15 13:29
techrights-secnews.  Instead the national uses the local name to disseminate propagandaOct 15 13:29
techrights-secand such /into/ the local community.  Oct 15 13:29
techrights-newsTechrights – New Public Talk by Helen Plews and Andy Farnell About 'Clown Computing' (at Cloud Native Media) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/New_Public_Talk_by_Helen_Plews_and_Andy_Farnell_About_Clown_Com.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/New_Public_Talk_by_Helen_Plews_and_Andy_Farnell_About_Clown_Com.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): How I became obsolete ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/How_I_became_obsolete.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/How_I_became_obsolete.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): How I learned to stop worrying and love the CoreOS ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/How_I_learned_to_stop_worrying_and_love_the_CoreOS.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/How_I_learned_to_stop_worrying_and_love_the_CoreOS.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): MariaDB’s Bad Week: Layoffs and an End to Azure Support ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/MariaDB_s_Bad_Week_Layoffs_and_an_End_to_Azure_Support.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/14/MariaDB_s_Bad_Week_Layoffs_and_an_End_to_Azure_Support.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Android_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Can open source be saved from the EU's Cyber Resilience Act? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Can_open_source_be_saved_from_the_EU_s_Cyber_Resilience_Act.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Can_open_source_be_saved_from_the_EU_s_Cyber_Resilience_Act.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:09
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Retro, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Retro_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Retro_and_More.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:09
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security and Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Security_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Security_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:09
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schestowitz-pihow hard would it be to encapsulate the wiki in the shtml stuff, such that they look like ~/ircOct 15 14:13
schestowitz-pii could edit the pages with nano Oct 15 14:13
schestowitz-piusually the edits are small and simpleOct 15 14:13
techrights-secnot too hard AFIAKOct 15 14:18
techrights-secfile transfer mentioned above is still running...Oct 15 14:18
schestowitz-piwhen the site is 100% static even backups will be very neat and simpleOct 15 14:18
schestowitz-pifewer moving partsOct 15 14:18
schestowitz-piand no "short" downtime at 4am (sqldump)Oct 15 14:18
techrights-newstechrights HQ: now with 12 simultaneous mousing devices, connected all at onceOct 15 14:21
techrights-secbiabOct 15 14:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Google and Microsoft Monopolies ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Google_and_Microsoft_Monopolies.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/Google_and_Microsoft_Monopolies.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): IBM/Red Hat and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/IBM_Red_Hat_and_Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/IBM_Red_Hat_and_Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/today_s_leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/15/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:30
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 15/10/2023: Cory Doctorow on the Web's Rot, the Net Getting Littered With Misinformation and Violence ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Links_15_10_2023_Cory_Doctorow_on_the_Web_s_Rot_the_Net_Getting.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Links_15_10_2023_Cory_Doctorow_on_the_Web_s_Rot_the_Net_Getting.gmi ∎Oct 15 14:30
schestowitz-pi> Hi Roy,Oct 15 14:31
schestowitz-pi> Oct 15 14:31
schestowitz-pi> Tux Machines is back on the news wire too!Oct 15 14:31
schestowitz-piExcellent, thanks for the ATO coverage lately!Oct 15 14:31
schestowitz-pi"OASIS Open Document Format ODF 1.0 (ISO/IEC 26300) and Office Open XML (ISO/IEC 29500) are both open documentOct 15 15:32
schestowitz-piformats for saving and exchanging word processing documents, spreadsheets and presentations. Both formats are XOct 15 15:32
schestowitz-piML based but differ in design and scope."Oct 15 15:32
schestowitz-piLOLOct 15 15:32
schestowitz-pid Office Open XML (ISO/IEC 29500) are both open documentOct 15 15:32
techrights-secMOOX is not complete enough to implement and there are no implementationsOct 15 15:34
techrights-secanywhere, not even in MSOOct 15 15:34
schestowitz-pii will put an article about this in TM, I thinkOct 15 15:35
techrights-secWhich page is that from?Oct 15 15:35
techrights-secThere was an archive.org link about NATO requiring ODFOct 15 15:35
schestowitz-piyesOct 15 15:35
schestowitz-pireading it atmOct 15 15:35
schestowitz-pithinking how to best present thatOct 15 15:35
techrights-secDo you remember their attack on Massachusetts CIO Quinn over ODF and openOct 15 15:36
techrights-secstandards in general?Oct 15 15:36
schestowitz-piyou put that in latest TR Daily LinksOct 15 15:36
schestowitz-pitopOct 15 15:36
techrights-sec"... Open standards and platforms create a foundation for success. They enable interoperability of technologiesOct 15 15:41
techrights-sec and encourage innovativeness and healthy competition, which in turn increases consumer choice and opens entireOct 15 15:41
techrights-secly new markets,"Oct 15 15:41
techrights-sec  Jorma Ollila, Chairman of Nokia's Board of Directors. Oct 15 15:41
techrights-sec"NOKIA: Nokia Foundation Award to MΓ₯rten Mickos"  Kauppalehti.  (2006)Oct 15 15:41
techrights-sechttp://www.kauppalehti.fi/4/i/eng/releases/press_release.jsp?selected=other&oid=20061101/11642616280200&lang=ENOct 15 15:41
techrights-secor      http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1089660Oct 15 15:41
techrights-secback in 2006 (dead links now though)Oct 15 15:41
techrights-secBefore M$ killed Nokia, it was very much for OSS and Open Standards Oct 15 15:41
techrights-sechttps://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokiaOct 15 15:41
techrights-seconly six years between those two articles (Kauppalehti and Seeking Alpha)Oct 15 15:41
techrights-sechttps://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/07/the-sun-tzu-of-nokisoftian-microkia-mirror-mirror-on-the-Oct 15 15:41
techrights-secwall-whose-the-baddest-of-them-all-waterloo.htmlOct 15 15:41
schestowitz-pitodo: proof the latest phase-out DOES in fact mean Kerberos is under attackOct 15 15:44
techrights-secI would guess that their new replacement is so extensively modified as wellOct 15 15:54
techrights-secas burdened with patents and copyrights and lack of documentation that Oct 15 15:54
techrights-secit would be impossible to implement even with a lot of money and lawyers.Oct 15 15:54
techrights-secRemember that in 2000 (?) m$ broke Kerberos by extending it and tried otOct 15 15:54
techrights-secthreaten the (then) FOSS Slashdot into silence over it.  M$ made the controversyOct 15 15:54
techrights-secdisappear by modifing the official specification to permit such proprietaryOct 15 15:54
techrights-secextensions.  Oct 15 15:54
techrights-secthis /probably/ ties into the UMich breach the other month, but /I speculate/   Oct 15 15:54
techrights-secthat there are gag clauses in the support contracts.Oct 15 15:54
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/o/2023/09/06/threat-to-security/Oct 15 15:58
schestowitz-pikerberosOct 15 15:58
schestowitz-pigot a first rough draftOct 15 15:58
schestowitz-piediting..Oct 15 15:58
techrights-secbiabOct 15 16:19
schestowitz-pi"NO MORE BCC FROM ME"Oct 15 16:24
techrights-newsonOct 15 16:26
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 15/10/2023: Cory Doctorow on the Web's Rot, the Net Getting Littered With Misinformation and Violence ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Links_15_10_2023_Cory_Doctorow_on_the_Web_s_Rot_the_Net_Getting.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Links_15_10_2023_Cory_Doctorow_on_the_Web_s_Rot_the_Net_Getting.gmi ∎Oct 15 16:26
techrights-newsTechrights – The Hype of 'Generative Hey Hi' (G.A.I.) is Over, It Won't Replace the Dying Media ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/The_Hype_of_Generative_Hey_Hi_G_A_I_is_Over_It_Won_t_Replace_th.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/The_Hype_of_Generative_Hey_Hi_G_A_I_is_Over_It_Won_t_Replace_th.gmi ∎Oct 15 16:26
techrights-newsTechrights – Microsoft is Costing the Taxpayers Billions of Dollars Due to Security Breaches, Not Just Government Contracts and Bailouts ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Microsoft_is_Costing_the_Taxpayers_Billions_of_Dollars_Due_to_S.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Microsoft_is_Costing_the_Taxpayers_Billions_of_Dollars_Due_to_S.gmi ∎Oct 15 16:26
techrights-newsTechrights – Microsoft is Still Waging a Relentless War Against Open Standards (Not Just Against Software Freedom) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Microsoft_is_Still_Waging_a_Relentless_War_Against_Open_Standar.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/10/15/Microsoft_is_Still_Waging_a_Relentless_War_Against_Open_Standar.gmi ∎Oct 15 16:26
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*MinceR gives voice to Techrights-sec2 libertybox royOct 15 16:51
*Now talking on #tuxmachinesOct 15 17:17
techrights-secWhen you get chance, can you see if you can log into .40 the same way as .66?Oct 15 17:18
techrights-secIf so, then I can turn off .66 and re-purpose the hardware and we can continueOct 15 17:18
techrights-secwith .40 which uses less electricity (and has a badly broken screen hinge andOct 15 17:18
techrights-secis thus of little to no use except as a server like this)Oct 15 17:18
schestowitz-piConnection id:    115Oct 15 17:20
schestowitz-piCurrent database: wikiOct 15 17:20
schestowitz-piMariaDB [wiki]> Oct 15 17:20
schestowitz-piselect page.page_latest, page.page_title, left(text.old_text, 200) from page left join revision on revision.revOct 15 17:24
schestowitz-pi_id=page.page_latest leftOct 15 17:24
schestowitz-pijoin text on text.old_id = revision.rev_text_id;Oct 15 17:24
techrights-secIs that .66 or .40 ?Oct 15 17:24
techrights-secI don't see a login on .40?Oct 15 17:24
techrights-secThats over on .66.  Can you try .40? Oct 15 17:24
techrights-secexcellent!Oct 15 17:24
techrights-secI'll power off .66 now and wipe it tomorrow.Oct 15 17:24
schestowitz-pi"Such rooms could be potential fire and health risks due to the lack of ventilation." ☞ https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/landlords-face-fines-for-renting-out-grave-like-rooms-says-ministryOct 15 18:00
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Phenomenon That Makes Night Shift Harmful to The Body Identified ☞ https://www.sciencealert.com/phenomenon-that-makes-night-shift-harmful-to-the-body-identifiedOct 15 18:13
schestowitz-pithis makes the assumption people who work in daytime are not tiredOct 15 18:13
schestowitz-piand people who work overnight struggle to stay upOct 15 18:13
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