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techrights-newsArchiving Latest Posts in Geminispace (Like a Dated Web Directory But for Gemini) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/16/gemini-directory/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/16/gemini-directory/May 17 00:37
techrights-newsLinks 16/05/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 and Inkscape 1.2 Released | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/16/inkscape-1-2-released/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/16/inkscape-1-2-released/May 17 00:43
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164933May 17 00:44
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Techrights-secotr: this router is not routing outbound connections since the last 'upgrade'May 17 08:15
Techrights-secotr: trying the next build, router maintenance: eta 45 minMay 17 08:15
Techrights-secotr: this round of maintenace is doneMay 17 08:15
Techrights-secotr; problem still persistsMay 17 08:15
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Monday, May 16, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/irc-log-160522/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/irc-log-160522/May 17 08:37
Techrights-secotr: not really back, at shop atmMay 17 09:28
schestowitz-TRssh over "phone"?May 17 09:28
schestowitz-TRterminal?May 17 09:28
schestowitz-TRlaptop on wifi?May 17 09:28
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164934May 17 09:50
techrights-newsGames: Super Hexagon, Heroic Games Launcher, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164935May 17 09:54
techrights-newsopenSUSE Leap 15.4 Enters Release Candidate Phase • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164936May 17 09:54
techrights-newsDevices: Nordic Semiconductors, ESP32, and Raspberry Pi • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164937May 17 09:57
techrights-newsThe very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164938May 17 09:57
techrights-newsLinks 17/05/2022: OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 Release Candidate | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/release-candidate-opensuse-leap/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/release-candidate-opensuse-leap/May 17 10:07
techrights-newsRocky Linux 8.6 Available Now • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164939May 17 10:21
techrights-newsKali Linux 2022.2 Lands With Desktop Tweaks, Hilarious Hollywood-Hacking-Homaging Screensaver http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162443#comment-33692May 17 10:24
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164940May 17 10:51
Techrights-secotr: 4G modem but it drains the battery a lot.  Car stuff done for nowMay 17 11:00
Techrights-secotr: but now xxxx is running some errands and I waitMay 17 11:00
Techrights-secotr: I could use the local wifi to spare power, but then I'd have to runMay 17 11:01
Techrights-secotr: everything over an SSH VPN of sorts; if the battery gets too low, I May 17 11:01
Techrights-secotr: may switch to thatMay 17 11:01
schestowitz-TRfor me, being out means being offlineMay 17 11:02
schestowitz-TRI can delay anything that required connMay 17 11:02
schestowitz-TRworking on RPO material atmMay 17 11:02
schestowitz-TRinflation in estonia almost 20 percentMay 17 11:02
Techrights-secyes inflation is quite highMay 17 11:03
Techrights-secotr: the stores here are now limiting purchase of cooking oil; it's notMay 17 11:03
Techrights-secotr: locked up behind the counter ... yet but is limited to three  bottlesMay 17 11:03
Techrights-secotr; per customerMay 17 11:03
schestowitz-TRrianne checked in tesco 3 days agoMay 17 11:03
schestowitz-TR1.29 per litreMay 17 11:03
schestowitz-TRused to be lessMay 17 11:03
Techrights-secotr: the price has not risen yet, but the rationing is starting so theMay 17 11:05
Techrights-secotr: price jump will follow soon, I expectMay 17 11:05
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techrights-newsTuring Pi 2 mini-ITX cluster board supports RK3588 based Turing RK1, Raspberry Pi CM4, and NVIDIA Jetson SoMs (Crowdfunding) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164941May 17 11:07
techrights-news4 ways you can preserve the Earth’s livability with open source • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164942May 17 11:08
techrights-news10 Fun Free and Open Source First Person Shooter Games • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164943May 17 11:08
Techrights-secotr: looking at powertop, the USB port by itself draws an insane amountMay 17 11:28
Techrights-secotr: of currentMay 17 11:28
schestowitz-TRdata ports have become charging adaptersMay 17 11:29
schestowitz-TRfans and stuffMay 17 11:29
schestowitz-TRI remember when mobile phones had bulky batteries but did last a VERY long timeMay 17 11:29
Techrights-secotr: fan is off, it's just the USB itself which seems to be using aboutMay 17 11:30
Techrights-secotr: 7WMay 17 11:30
Techrights-secotr: that and pulseaudio uses 1 to 3 W just idling, I have no sound runningMay 17 11:30
schestowitz-TRI mentioned pulseaudio in IRC a few timesMay 17 11:31
schestowitz-TRand its cpu usageMay 17 11:31
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techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164944May 17 11:41
techrights-newsInternal Poll: 93% of European Patent Office (EPO) Workers Are Unhappy With the EPO | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/unhappy-epo/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/unhappy-epo/May 17 11:51
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techrights-newsTop 10 Best GNOME Extensions in 2022 [WIth a bonus list] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164945May 17 13:32
Techrights-secotr: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-150522.html#tMay%2015%2022:07:59May 17 13:59
Techrights-secotr: the last few times I was in the US the behaviors and attitudes there wereMay 17 13:59
Techrights-secotr: already getting worse; that was in 2005 and then 2008, people wereMay 17 13:59
Techrights-secotr: generallly such dicks, even former friends, that there was no reasonMay 17 13:59
Techrights-secotr: to consider going backMay 17 13:59
schestowitz-TRat work, when I receive a call from the US (more common this year), even without the accent I can tellMay 17 14:07
schestowitz-TRpeople are rudeMay 17 14:07
Techrights-secotr; people used to be on the spectrum between rather polite and very politeMay 17 14:08
Techrights-secotr: prior to Little Bush, the only nation that I knew of that wasMay 17 14:08
Techrights-secotr; stereotypcally rude was Israel.  Though I have since learned thatMay 17 14:08
Techrights-secotr: in many African ethnic groups politeness is seen as a sign of weaknessMay 17 14:08
Techrights-secotr: and eschewedMay 17 14:08
Techrights-secotr: the only friend I knew in the EU who was jewish or at least made a May 17 14:08
Techrights-secotr; (small) deal of it was super polite to everyone even those he did not likeMay 17 14:08
Techrights-secotr; so that is a sample size of oneMay 17 14:08
Techrights-secIsrael inherits this from the culture that make it upMay 17 14:09
Techrights-secthose are not north European Jews, but they can be influenced by the rest, who makeMay 17 14:09
Techrights-secup the majority inc., ArabsMay 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRIsrael inherits this from the culture that make it upMay 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRthose are not north European Jews, but they can be influenced by the rest, who makeMay 17 14:09
schestowitz-TRup the majority inc., ArabsMay 17 14:09
Techrights-secotr: though in 2000 / 2001 I had to deal with an israeli company over the phoneMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: and they were dickheads; they eventually downloaded the deliverables fromMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: one of our EU projecs, slapped their company logo on it, and did a tourMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: of Europe selling it, with too much success, to European universities May 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: even though for far less money individual or groups of univerisitiesMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr; could have installed and operated the software themselvesMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: from where I stood it looked like it also doubled as corporate espionage  May 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: just by how the tool would end up being used and the level of May 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr; surveillance an israeli company would have over that useMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: I see that the dickheads at the university library decided to *erase*May 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: old HTML 2 pages: https://www.lub.lu.se/desire/demonstration.htmlMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: it's not like they took up space, it's more like it was politicallyMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: expedient to erase the pastMay 17 14:12
Techrights-secotr: I alway though that it came from cross-contamination with NYC cultureMay 17 14:12
schestowitz-TRwhat you say echoes my expertiences tooMay 17 14:13
schestowitz-TRI cannot say anything positive about IsraelMay 17 14:13
schestowitz-TRit might be the other way around; i.e. nyc, esp. with ultra-orthodox elitism, May 17 14:13
schestowitz-TRmaking that more commonplace in the capital of banksteraMay 17 14:13
schestowitz-TRbut you need to consider where a lot of this mentality comes from and is reinforcedMay 17 14:13
schestowitz-TRby in the first placeMay 17 14:13
Techrights-secotr: perhaps but the author O Henry wrote a lot about the shittiness of NYCMay 17 14:14
Techrights-secotr: and he did that in the 1800sMay 17 14:14
schestowitz-TRI never left the airport in NYCMay 17 14:15
schestowitz-TRFL has some nice peopleMay 17 14:15
schestowitz-TRbut I think it's owing to the Latin American influencesMay 17 14:15
schestowitz-TRthey're more friendlyMay 17 14:15
Techrights-secotr; Miami is considered the financial capitol of Latin America, with good reasonMay 17 14:15
schestowitz-TRI have many relatives thereMay 17 14:17
schestowitz-TRbut I have no intention of flying there anymoreMay 17 14:17
schestowitz-TRbrett ratner the director is a relative of mineMay 17 14:17
techrights-news[Meme] What Managers (Really) Mean by Acting Professionally | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/acting-professionally/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/acting-professionally/May 17 14:19
techrights-news⚓ publishers | ♾ Gemini address: publishersMay 17 14:33
techrights-newsPatent Examiners Rising Up Against EPO Abuse | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/epo-petition/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/epo-petition/May 17 14:34
techrights-newsRocky Linux 8.6 Is Now Available for Download, Based on RHEL 8.6 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164946May 17 14:40
techrights-newsAdobe Illustrator Alternative Inkscape Releases Version 1.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164931#comment-33693May 17 14:44
techrights-newsKali Linux 2022.2 Release Adds an Amusing New Feature for the Hackers to Scare People http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162443#comment-33694May 17 14:45
Techrights-secotr: https://www.lifeinnorway.net/norway-national-day-this-year/May 17 15:30
Techrights-secotr: https://www.officeholidays.com/holidays/norway/norway-constitution-dayMay 17 15:30
schestowitz-TRI celebrated these numerous timesMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRwith my friends from Bergen and OsloMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRI could easily end up living with a NorwegianMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRI still have loas of pohotos from those daysMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRThey are happy and polite peopleMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRI still remember how one of them, Steinar, was a bit on the edgy May 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRside, believed the sorts of things Brehvik was intoMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TReven in his early 20s, but we used to hang out, I invoted him to the gymMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRthere used to be a site with the photos online until some years backMay 17 15:35
schestowitz-TRbut last I checked it was gone alreadyMay 17 15:36
schestowitzhttps://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/06/30/norsoc/May 17 15:38
schestowitz-TR(I don't upload many personal photos, esp. since the social control media era)May 17 15:39
schestowitz-TRthe rianne albums are personal, but we upload with consentMay 17 15:39
schestowitzhttp://www.printedelectronicink.com/speakers/May 17 15:41
schestowitz"Christian Brox-Nilsen is currently R2R Production Manager at Ynvisible Production AB after working a year as Senior Process Engineer at Consensum Production AB. He worked for six years as Senior Process Engineer and Process Control Manager, as well as being responsible for the R2R print line at Thin Film Electronics (Thinfilm) before starting at Consensum. Prior to working at Thinfilm he worked as Research Associate at The University at May 17 15:41
schestowitzManchester for one year. He has a PhD and BEng from The University of Manchester in the UK."May 17 15:41
schestowitzlooks about the same, but lost the hair http://www.printedelectronicink.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Christian-Brox-Nilsen.pngMay 17 15:42
schestowitz-TRjust wasted a lot of time typing up names and telling Gulag whose names went through my mindMay 17 15:47
schestowitz-TRI should really focus on tech stuff :-) :-)May 17 15:47
schestowitz-TRThe Web cancels fastMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRForgots fastMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRLoses information fastMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRinc. any syllabusMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRso I made local copies of many things over the yearsMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRinc. Web pagesMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRI don't even know the URL of the norsoc site anymoreMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRso it would be hard to check the Wayback MachineMay 17 15:49
schestowitz-TRmaybe very old backups have it in the bookmarks somewhereMay 17 15:49
Techrights-secackMay 17 15:51
Techrights-secIt's hard to make copies of everyting "just in case"  That's what libraries andMay 17 15:51
Techrights-secarchives used to do but don't any moreMay 17 15:51
Techrights-secOne library in Canada was supposed to keep a copy of a reference specificationMay 17 15:51
Techrights-secof the final draft of a specific standard and got money to do so.  ThenMay 17 15:51
Techrights-seca few years later deleted the etirety of the last remaining copy i nthe worldMay 17 15:51
Techrights-secfrom their web site to save a few kilobytes becase it "was not accessed so often:May 17 15:51
Techrights-sec"May 17 15:51
Techrights-secIt cost them extra work to delete it, it cost them nothing to keep it unmolestedMay 17 15:51
Techrights-secand furthermore they had already accepted the money to keep the copy on recordMay 17 15:51
Techrights-secfor more than just a few monthsMay 17 15:51
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techrights-newsALT Linux 10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164855#comment-33696May 17 15:58
techrights-newsUbuntu Kylin 20.04 OS works on RISC-V hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164901#comment-33697May 17 15:59
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techrights-newsRed Hat / IBM Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164947May 17 18:10
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Techrights-secotr: RPF tried to send me something last month but would not disclose what itMay 17 18:29
Techrights-secotr: was so customs held onto it until it was either sent back or destrouedMay 17 18:29
Techrights-secotr; because I could not fill out the paperwork without knowing what it wasMay 17 18:29
Techrights-secotr: etcMay 17 18:29
Techrights-secotr: the customs agency is the worst kind of microsoft shop and theirMay 17 18:29
Techrights-secotr: programs / web interface barely works on the occasions it does run toMay 17 18:29
Techrights-secotr: completionMay 17 18:29
schestowitz-TRmaybe the item is thus shared among the stuff or their friendsMay 17 18:31
schestowitz-TR*staffMay 17 18:31
schestowitz-TRthat would encourage making the service worse May 17 18:31
schestowitz-TRwe already lost a parcl ages agoMay 17 18:31
schestowitz-TRwhen I say shared I mean stolen May 17 18:31
schestowitz-TRI know how they treat lost/unclaimed items at the gymMay 17 18:31
schestowitz-TRunofficially "auctioned" but more likely claimed by an insider or a friendMay 17 18:31
schestowitz-TRin a rigged processMay 17 18:31
schestowitz-TRsome are high-value itemsMay 17 18:32
schestowitz-TRlike fancy watchesMay 17 18:32
Techrights-seccould be.  France is like that.May 17 18:32
Techrights-secotr: don't get me started on the mail.  Since pretending to be a private May 17 18:32
Techrights-secotr: service, which it is not, prices have skyrocketed, service has plummeted May 17 18:32
Techrights-secotr: both in availability and in quality.  Also things get lost or stolen May 17 18:32
Techrights-secotr: very frequentlyMay 17 18:32
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164948May 17 19:07
techrights-newsTuring Pi 2 crowdfunding goal smashed within a day http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164941#comment-33703May 17 19:10
techrights-newsInkscape adds multi-page support with v1.2 update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164931#comment-33702May 17 19:11
techrights-newsLooks like the Budgie desktop is coming to Fedora Linux officially http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164902#comment-33701May 17 19:12
techrights-newsVideos and Shows: Feren OS, Gitea, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164949May 17 19:16
techrights-newsKria KR260 Based on GNU/Linux (Ubuntu) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164950May 17 19:17
techrights-newsLinks 17/05/2022: Rocky Linux 8.6 and Budgie Desktop in Fedora | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/budgie-desktop-in-fedora/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/budgie-desktop-in-fedora/May 17 19:38
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164951May 17 19:39
techrights-newsOpen Hardware, Programming and Canonical/Ubuntu • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164952May 17 19:39
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164953May 17 19:39
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techrights-newsWordPress 6.0 Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Now Available for Testing • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164954May 17 20:32
techrights-newsThe sad state of Linux desktop diversity and accessibility • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164955 "As long as you ignore tiling wm like i3 or sway, sure, just 2. Or Ratpoison. Or twm. Still occasionally use Openbox and Fluxbox as well." https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/05/17/linux_desktop_feature/May 17 20:35
techrights-newsBest Linux file managers 2022: Customise your workflows • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164956May 17 20:41
techrights-newsFUD and Security • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164957May 17 20:52
techrights-newsHyperion Study Tracks Rise and Impact of Linux Supercomputers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164958May 17 20:55
techrights-newsBootlin at Live Embedded Event amd inux Plumbers Conference • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164959May 17 20:56
techrights-newsYaST Development Report - Chapter 4 of 2022 | YaST • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164960May 17 21:02
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164961May 17 21:08
techrights-newsKali Linux 2022.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162443#comment-33707May 17 21:10
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techrights-newsMozilla Developers’ Blogs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164962May 17 21:15
techrights-newsFree Software Support Is Critical to Its Success • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164963May 17 21:19
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techrights-newsNVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748#comment-33709May 17 21:35
techrights-newsSoftware: Istio, PuMuKIT, Zinc, and Video Hosting • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164964May 17 21:40
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164965May 17 21:43
techrights-newsMINISFORUM DeskMini UM350 mini PC now available with Manjaro Linux for $299 and up • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164966May 17 21:43
techrights-newsLinks 17/05/2022: Many More Games on GNU/Linux, YaST Development Report | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/yast-development-report/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/yast-development-report/May 17 21:50
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164967May 17 21:50
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techrights-newsGPL legal battle: Vizio told by judge it will have to answer breach-of-contract claims http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164920#comment-33710May 17 22:37
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164968May 17 22:37
techrights-news13 Compelling Reasons Why People Use Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164969May 17 22:37
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techrights-newsLinux Foundation Almost Never uses Open Source | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/17/linux-foundation-uses-google-docs/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/17/linux-foundation-uses-google-docs/May 17 23:09
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