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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): LXQt 1.4 Desktop Arrives for Lubuntu 23.10 Users, Here’s #HowTo Install It ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/16/LXQt_1_4_Desktop_Arrives_for_Lubuntu_23_10_Users_Here_s_How_to_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/16/LXQt_1_4_Desktop_Arrives_for_Lubuntu_23_10_Users_Here_s_How_to_.gmi ∎Nov 17 01:14
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Barry Kauler on EasyOS Development ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Barry_Kauler_on_EasyOS_Development.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Barry_Kauler_on_EasyOS_Development.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:00
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Windows_TCO.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:00
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): New Steam Games with Native GNU/Linux Clients and 13 Best Distributions for Gaming on Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/New_Steam_Games_with_Native_GNU_Linux_Clients_and_13_Best_Distr.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/New_Steam_Games_with_Native_GNU_Linux_Clients_and_13_Best_Distr.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Scientists use Raspberry Pi and Raspberry Pi Now in Google's Pocket, Too ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Scientists_use_Raspberry_Pi_and_Raspberry_Pi_Now_in_Google_s_Po.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Scientists_use_Raspberry_Pi_and_Raspberry_Pi_Now_in_Google_s_Po.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat: Proprietary (Secretive) Hardware as 'Security', Flathub, Red Hat Working With Lockheed Martin, Pagure Exporter ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Red_Hat_Proprietary_Secretive_Hardware_as_Security_Flathub_Red_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Red_Hat_Proprietary_Secretive_Hardware_as_Security_Flathub_Red_.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 12 Best Time Tracking Software for Linux Desktop ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/12_Best_Time_Tracking_Software_for_Linux_Desktop.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/12_Best_Time_Tracking_Software_for_Linux_Desktop.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:37
schestowitz-pigmNov 17 02:39
schestowitz-piour irc cert expiredNov 17 02:39
schestowitz-pinothing urgent, but some people get warningsNov 17 02:39
schestowitz-piit used to use LENov 17 02:39
schestowitz-pimaybe we should steer away from LE? For IRC?Nov 17 02:39
schestowitz-pior add certbot to alpine?Nov 17 02:39
schestowitz-pithe HV runs freeBSDNov 17 02:39
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 17/11/2023: Diplomacy With China and More Fentanylware (TikTok) Bans ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Links_17_11_2023_Diplomacy_With_China_and_More_Fentanylware_Tik.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Links_17_11_2023_Diplomacy_With_China_and_More_Fentanylware_Tik.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:53
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 16, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/irc-log-161123.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/irc-log-161123.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:53
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:54
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/today_s_leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎Nov 17 02:54
DaemonFCJust renew it.Nov 17 04:08
techrights-newsTechrights – Heather Meeker: Open to Microsoft Business (Proprietary and GPL-Violating) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Heather_Meeker_Open_to_Microsoft_Business_Proprietary_and_GPL_V.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Heather_Meeker_Open_to_Microsoft_Business_Proprietary_and_GPL_V.gmi ∎Nov 17 04:09
techrights-newsTechrights – Twisting Severe Holes in Microsoft Windows as an "Open Source" Problem (Darkening Perceptions of SSH Security) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Twisting_Severe_Holes_in_Microsoft_Windows_as_an_Open_Source_Pr.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Twisting_Severe_Holes_in_Microsoft_Windows_as_an_Open_Source_Pr.gmi ∎Nov 17 04:10
techrights-secThat'd be one way to deal with the certificate for IRCNov 17 04:12
schestowitz-piwhich would you prefer?Nov 17 04:12
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers and Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Nov 17 04:22
techrights-secNot sure since i don't use IRC.  How inconvient is self-signed  Nov 17 04:23
techrights-secfor the major IRC client software?Nov 17 04:23
schestowitz-pii asked DaemonFC earlierNov 17 04:23
schestowitz-pias he uses a broad rangeNov 17 04:24
schestowitz-piit said it did not bother him but merely flag the expiry (24 hours ago)Nov 17 04:24
DaemonFCIt stops you from logging in (HexChat).Nov 17 04:25
DaemonFCUnless you tell it to ignore invalid certificates.Nov 17 04:26
DaemonFCKonversation warns and lets you accept it once or forever.Nov 17 04:26
techrights-secThen maybe continue with self-signed for another year?Nov 17 04:42
schestowitz-pii will take a look...Nov 17 04:42
techrights-sechttps://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp Iran's Hamas is theNov 17 04:51
techrights-secleadership which the adults in Gaza have chosen.  The Hamas ConvenantNov 17 04:51
techrights-secclarifies their position on the current situation.  Nov 17 04:51
techrights-secSee also https://www.meforum.org/2095/islams-doctrines-of-deceptionNov 17 04:51
techrights-secin regards to placing troops and weapons in or under schools and hospitalsNov 17 04:51
techrights-secIran is > 90% shia fwiw, not that the other flavors are any improvementNov 17 04:53
schestowitz-piienians are not arabs but persian by their own doctrineNov 17 04:56
schestowitz-pibut use arabs as "low-grade" muslims to advance political goals Nov 17 04:56
schestowitz-piwhen people conflate islam with a race (tell that to somalis or nigerians)Nov 17 04:56
schestowitz-pithey help the misunderstandingNov 17 04:56
techrights-secThe statement of the fact that "islam is not a race" triggers manyNov 17 05:18
techrights-secwhackdoodles in social media and causes them to squawk loudly and even Nov 17 05:18
techrights-secto gather and try to brigade.  Nov 17 05:18
techrights-secThe resulting fight then distracts from the inconvenient fact that Nov 17 05:18
techrights-secislam is not just a political movement but a violent, supremacistNov 17 05:18
techrights-secone at thatNov 17 05:18
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Social control media gravitates towards the lowest common denominator: groupthink and hence collective stupidity.Nov 17 05:19
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Mastodon/Fediverse now has its fair share of "LGBT for Hamas" people, who merely stigmatise LGBT as having severe mental issues because Hamas has plans for all LGBT people. TNov 17 05:19
schestowitz-pihere's no discrimination or exclusion... everyone to be treated the same way.Nov 17 05:19
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Does Elana Hashman think the 7/7 attack was "freedom fighters"?Nov 17 05:19
schestowitz-pilater the same idiots attack RMS, Moglen etc.Nov 17 05:19
schestowitz-pimaybe veiled antisemitism, but good luck proving itNov 17 05:19
techrights-secI suspect more than a little of the motivation for the attacks againstNov 17 05:20
techrights-secRMS and Moglen include strong elements of antisemitismNov 17 05:20
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DaemonFCUS destroyers have to patrol shipping lanes off countries like Somalia.Nov 17 05:26
DaemonFCUsing those little pirate boats for target practice.Nov 17 05:26
schestowitz-pi                cert: /etc/letsencrypt/live/irc.techrights.org/fullchain.pemNov 17 05:26
schestowitz-pi                key: /etc/letsencrypt/live/irc.techrights.org/privkey.pemNov 17 05:26
schestowitz-pishould i have a go at it, it alpine... i might get it wrongNov 17 05:27
schestowitz-pii have the commands for centos, not alpineNov 17 05:27
schestowitz-pi(fwiw: a few condemned our use of LE in IRC, but I always defderred that to kaniini,Nov 17 05:31
schestowitz-piwho had made this choice without even consulting anybody)Nov 17 05:31
techrights-sec"""Nov 17 05:32
techrights-sec    If Gazans are too dangerous for Israel, they're too dangerous for us, too. America isn't the world's landfill.Nov 17 05:32
techrights-sec    Make the Arab world take them. Qatar is rich and already hosts Hamas's billionaire leader. Saudi Arabia has endless money and endless space. Jordan and Egypt are right next door. All of thNov 17 05:32
techrights-secem share the same culture and religion as the Gazans. Make them take the refugees.Nov 17 05:32
techrights-sec"""Nov 17 05:32
techrights-sec-- https://www.danielpipes.org/22019/why-should-gazans-leave-the-middle-eastNov 17 05:32
techrights-secchecking Nov 17 05:32
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi, What's the worst they could do?Nov 17 05:32
DaemonFCForce it back to self-signed?Nov 17 05:32
schestowitz-piwho? LE?Nov 17 05:33
schestowitz-pieven if the british gave uganda as "zion", the neighbours there would not be easyNov 17 05:34
schestowitz-piisrael deserves condemnation tooNov 17 05:34
schestowitz-pibut it's funny toi see elana hamasman coopting gays an d trans to prop up hamasNov 17 05:34
schestowitz-pithe brain does not functionNov 17 05:34
techrights-secHis post might be inflamatory but the facts are there in plain sight.Nov 17 05:35
techrights-secThe theological debate is settled as far as islam's plans for Nov 17 05:35
techrights-secgays (including transvestites etc) go ...Nov 17 05:35
techrights-secThey're willing to exploit them and have them do some of the dirty workNov 17 05:35
techrights-secbecause they are fully disposable...Nov 17 05:35
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Scientists Calculated How Much Exercise You Need to 'Offset' a Day of Sitting ☞ https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-calculated-how-much-exercise-you-need-to-offset-a-day-of-sittingNov 17 05:36
DaemonFCThe troons are crazy enough to say or do anything.Nov 17 05:36
schestowitz-piyesNov 17 05:37
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: "DOWN WITH CAPITALISM"Nov 17 05:37
schestowitz-pi"GO HAMAS"Nov 17 05:37
techrights-sec$ ps | awk '$2=="ircd" && /ergo/ && !/awk/'Nov 17 05:37
techrights-sec 5587 ircd  6h24 /home/ircd/go/bin/ergo run --conf /home/ircd//ergo/ircd.yamlNov 17 05:37
techrights-secI have /no/ experience with ergo or what it does or how it worksNov 17 05:37
techrights-sec Nov 17 05:37
schestowitz-pino need for experience with it Nov 17 05:38
schestowitz-pithe confif file just specifies which cert is sent to the clientNov 17 05:38
schestowitz-piwith the paths:Nov 17 05:38
schestowitz-pi          cert: /etc/letsencrypt/live/irc.techrights.org/fullchain.pemNov 17 05:38
schestowitz-pi     key: /etc/letsencrypt/live/irc.techrights.org/privkey.pemNov 17 05:38
techrights-secwhy is the private key set with 654 permissions?Nov 17 05:47
techrights-secI've not used yaml either, that's what ergo uses for configurationNov 17 05:47
schestowitz-piif perms improperly set, you know whose fault that might beNov 17 05:50
schestowitz-pibut maybe certbot ran with some group association Nov 17 05:50
schestowitz-pibut why make a file like this executable by anyone :DNov 17 05:50
techrights-secircd configuration seems ok afaik but I would not knowNov 17 05:56
schestowitz-pihave 5 drafts atmNov 17 05:58
schestowitz-pigoing to do one in TMNov 17 05:58
schestowitz-pito test the "original" flagNov 17 05:58
schestowitz-piwe need not deal with that file or even reload the service of ircdNov 17 05:58
schestowitz-piif we maintain the same paths and maybe manually insert there self-signedNov 17 05:58
schestowitz-pi(i am guessing 4kB)Nov 17 05:58
schestowitz-picert with expiry 1+ years down the roadNov 17 05:58
schestowitz-piafaik, irc clients will not outright block self-signedNov 17 05:58
schestowitz-piunless some "web" "browsers" (VMs)Nov 17 05:59
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Games: Core Keeper, Bzzzt, art of rally, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Games_Core_Keeper_Bzzzt_art_of_rally_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Games_Core_Keeper_Bzzzt_art_of_rally_and_More.gmi ∎Nov 17 07:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 6 Best Free and Open Source Linux Electronic Medical Records Software ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Electronic_Medical_Records_So.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Electronic_Medical_Records_So.gmi ∎Nov 17 08:22
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.6 Officially Confirmed as an LTS ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Linux_Kernel_6_6_Officially_Confirmed_as_an_LTS.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Linux_Kernel_6_6_Officially_Confirmed_as_an_LTS.gmi ∎Nov 17 08:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): New Horizons for EL: OpenELA Publishes Package Sources ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/03/New_Horizons_for_EL_OpenELA_Publishes_Package_Sources.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/03/New_Horizons_for_EL_OpenELA_Publishes_Package_Sources.gmi ∎Nov 17 08:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Wireshark 4.2 Packet Analyzer Adds Support For HTTP/3 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Wireshark_4_2_Packet_Analyzer_Adds_Support_For_HTTP_3.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Wireshark_4_2_Packet_Analyzer_Adds_Support_For_HTTP_3.gmi ∎Nov 17 08:22
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): The Web and Free, Libre Software ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/The_Web_and_Free_Libre_Software.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/The_Web_and_Free_Libre_Software.gmi ∎Nov 17 08:23
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techrights-newsTechrights – Links 17/11/2023: Health and Privacy Issues, IBM Pulling Out of Twitter/X ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Links_17_11_2023_Health_and_Privacy_Issues_IBM_Pulling_Out_of_T.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Links_17_11_2023_Health_and_Privacy_Issues_IBM_Pulling_Out_of_T.gmi ∎Nov 17 09:20
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Rust 1.74.0 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Rust_1_74_0.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Rust_1_74_0.gmi ∎Nov 17 09:21
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Nov 17 09:21
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): BSD: OpenSMTPD, FreeBSD packages routine, and more ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/BSD_OpenSMTPD_FreeBSD_packages_routine_and_more.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/BSD_OpenSMTPD_FreeBSD_packages_routine_and_more.gmi ∎Nov 17 09:21
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding and Linux Devices ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Linux_Devices.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Linux_Devices.gmi ∎Nov 17 09:21
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Software doing what you want, not what you say ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Software_doing_what_you_want_not_what_you_say.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Software_doing_what_you_want_not_what_you_say.gmi ∎Nov 17 09:21
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): mesa 23.3.0-rc4 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/mesa_23_3_0_rc4.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/mesa_23_3_0_rc4.gmi ∎Nov 17 09:21
techrights-sechttps://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.mdNov 17 09:35
techrights-sec^ instructions do not work ...Nov 17 09:35
techrights-secnot a surprise (go+m$github)Nov 17 09:35
techrights-sec$ diff /home/ircd/ergo/ircd.yaml /home/ircd/ergo/ircd.yaml.origNov 17 09:35
techrights-sec... Nov 17 09:35
techrights-sec$ /home/ircd/go/bin/ergo mkcerts --conf /home/ircd/ergo/ircd.yamlNov 17 09:35
techrights-sec2023/11/17 08:36:08 making self-signed certificatesNov 17 09:35
techrights-sec^ seems to have no effectNov 17 09:35
techrights-sec/home/ircd/ergo/ircd.yaml.orig should probably be put back in placeNov 17 09:35
techrights-secif it is not working ...Nov 17 09:35
techrights-secIt's now back in placeNov 17 09:35
schestowitz-pii was mostly away from this computer, saw nothing until nowNov 17 09:37
schestowitz-piirc still running ok afaikNov 17 09:37
schestowitz-pimaybe i don't understand this security modelNov 17 09:37
schestowitz-pii thought we could just generate a new pairNov 17 09:37
schestowitz-piand then put that in the same files and paths as beforeNov 17 09:37
schestowitz-piwith the pair generated either on that server or on one's laptopNov 17 09:37
schestowitz-pithen copied acrossNov 17 09:38
techrights-secno, that would not work the self-signed must go in a different locationNov 17 09:39
techrights-secergo seems to want to generate them itself but I have *no clue* as toNov 17 09:39
techrights-secwhere it tries to put them and if it succeeded or failed to do soNov 17 09:39
techrights-secIt complains if there are certs pointed to in the yaml fileNov 17 09:39
techrights-secbut does not seem to produce any cert files when run with mkcertsNov 17 09:39
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): FFmpeg 6.1 β€œHeaviside” Released with VAAPI AV1 Encoder, HW Vulkan Decoding ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/11/FFmpeg_6_1_Heaviside_Released_with_VAAPI_AV1_Encoder_HW_Vulkan_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/11/FFmpeg_6_1_Heaviside_Released_with_VAAPI_AV1_Encoder_HW_Vulkan_.gmi ∎Nov 17 10:05
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Five things to consider when switching to Linux Mint ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/16/Five_things_to_consider_when_switching_to_Linux_Mint.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/16/Five_things_to_consider_when_switching_to_Linux_Mint.gmi ∎Nov 17 10:06
techrights-secx https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/woman-finds-kidney-donor-tiktok/story?id=104948227 did not clickNov 17 10:09
techrights-secABC is now advancing psyops weapons which *also* harm ABC's ability toNov 17 10:09
techrights-secworkNov 17 10:09
techrights-secLike with other social control media, if ABC uses it in place of actualNov 17 10:09
techrights-secsources, those that are exploited by social control medial will not be Nov 17 10:09
techrights-secenticed to ABC but turn away from 'old news' which they have already seen.Nov 17 10:09
techrights-secThat is on top of the problems with disinformation and manipulation.Nov 17 10:09
techrights-secAnyway, the documentation for ergo (the IRC server not the Quantum chemistry     Nov 17 10:09
techrights-sectool) is very weak in that area and it appears to try to do too muchNov 17 10:09
techrights-sectoo automatically.Nov 17 10:09
schestowitz-piis it feasible to just generate a pair there on the serverNov 17 10:12
schestowitz-pithen point to it?Nov 17 10:12
schestowitz-piif not, how hard is certbot to set up in alpine?Nov 17 10:12
schestowitz-pii imagine that it does it on its ownNov 17 10:12
schestowitz-pino path changesNov 17 10:13
schestowitz-piand just some corn job to itNov 17 10:13
schestowitz-pi*add to itNov 17 10:13
techrights-secIt might be feasible to generate on like for Apache2 /but/ it dependsNov 17 11:07
techrights-seca bit on how the internals are in ircd (ergo)  The libaries for certificatesNov 17 11:07
techrights-secare a bit over my head so I can't guess, especially in GolangNov 17 11:07
techrights-secCertbot is easy in AlpineNov 17 11:07
techrights-sechttps://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-letsencrypt-free-ssltls-for-nginx-certificate-on-alpine-linux/Nov 17 11:07
techrights-secThough  that is for a web server, and all the instructiond I have seenNov 17 11:07
techrights-secrequire a web server so maybe that is not an option.  Nov 17 11:07
techrights-secCertbot is not available in AlpineNov 17 11:07
techrights-sechttps://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.shNov 17 11:07
techrights-sec$ wc -l acme.sh Nov 17 11:07
techrights-sec7972 acme.shNov 17 11:07
techrights-sec:(Nov 17 11:07
techrights-secIt, too, would require something on port 80 to serve HTTPNov 17 11:08
techrights-sec"Please install socat tools first"Nov 17 11:08
schestowitz-pidid you get su?Nov 17 11:15
schestowitz-pidifferent passNov 17 11:15
techrights-secnoNov 17 11:18
techrights-secsame password?Nov 17 11:18
techrights-seccheckingNov 17 11:18
techrights-secThat's the password for ircdNov 17 11:18
techrights-sechmm. same password for both accounts -- bad practiceNov 17 11:18
techrights-secsu -l Nov 17 11:18
techrights-secand then the longer password gives root access :(Nov 17 11:18
techrights-secOh, one or two letters off Nov 17 11:18
schestowitz-pibiab Nov 17 11:18
schestowitz-piworkoutNov 17 11:18
*Disconnected (Connection timed out).Nov 17 11:51
*Now talking on #tuxmachinesNov 17 11:52
techrights-secwhich e-mail address should be registered with Let's Encrypt?Nov 17 12:19
techrights-secschestowitz.com?Nov 17 12:20
techrights-secthanksNov 17 12:20
schestowitz-piyesNov 17 12:23
schestowitz-pi(back btw)Nov 17 12:23
schestowitz-pithanks so much!Nov 17 12:24
schestowitz-pii knew the issue would be around the cornerNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-pias i abandoned bunnylandNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-pithe freebsd hv of irc is controlled by a reliable entityNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-piwebhost has been cool too, not a word, only billsNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-pii might recording 4 videos tonightNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-pii delayed some articlesNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-pito make more in-depth coverage if i am not too tired by thenNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-pii am glad securityweek points out bots took over the net, maybe the web tooNov 17 12:24
schestowitz-piit has been getting _a lot_ worse in recent yearsNov 17 12:24
techrights-secchecking ...Nov 17 12:26
techrights-secBots == Wasted Electricity / Wasted BandwidthNov 17 12:27
schestowitz-piextternalityNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pito them Nov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pithey send one or two tcp-ip packersNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-picausing churn at the other endNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pimight discard the packets sent in responseNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pijust for "lols" or "hey hi" "experiments"Nov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pirianne likes the new css "ribbon"Nov 17 12:28
schestowitz-piarindam and marius post new pages without a hitchNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pibot issue on the Net means going static is good proactive practiceNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pilowers operational costs  Nov 17 12:28
schestowitz-piand reduced complexityNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pii sometimes navigate gemini and www with keyboard, as the latency for both is so low that it's like navigating pages locallyNov 17 12:28
schestowitz-pisome companies stand to gain from open www becoming a vortex of energy-wasting activityNov 17 12:41
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Friends meet less after pandemic ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20060553Nov 17 12:42
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> "The show asks if Finland is really becoming less safe, after a police index revealed that incidents of violent crime are becoming more common." ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20060630Nov 17 12:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Allwinner VPU gets open-source H264 hardware video encoder Linux driver ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Allwinner_VPU_gets_open_source_H264_hardware_video_encoder_Linu.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Allwinner_VPU_gets_open_source_H264_hardware_video_encoder_Linu.gmi ∎Nov 17 12:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): It’s Official: Linux Kernel 6.6 Will Be LTS, Supported Until December 2026 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/It_s_Official_Linux_Kernel_6_6_Will_Be_LTS_Supported_Until_Dece.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/It_s_Official_Linux_Kernel_6_6_Will_Be_LTS_Supported_Until_Dece.gmi ∎Nov 17 12:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Calibre 7.0 E-Book Manager Introduces New Notes Feature, Support for Audio EPUBs ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Calibre_7_0_E_Book_Manager_Introduces_New_Notes_Feature_Support.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Calibre_7_0_E_Book_Manager_Introduces_New_Notes_Feature_Support.gmi ∎Nov 17 12:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Tuning the Linux kernel with AI, according to ByteDance ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Tuning_the_Linux_kernel_with_AI_according_to_ByteDance.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Tuning_the_Linux_kernel_with_AI_according_to_ByteDance.gmi ∎Nov 17 12:50
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Oppo starts rolling out ColorOS based on Android 14 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Oppo_starts_rolling_out_ColorOS_based_on_Android_14.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Oppo_starts_rolling_out_ColorOS_based_on_Android_14.gmi ∎Nov 17 12:50
techrights-secThe islamification of S Finland ...Nov 17 12:53
schestowitz-piworldNov 17 12:53
techrights-secacme: Nov 17 12:53
techrights-secegistering account: https://acme.zerossl.com/v2/DV90Nov 17 12:53
techrights-sec[Fri Nov 17 12:48:32 UTC 2023] RegisteredNov 17 12:53
techrights-sec[Fri Nov 17 12:49:10 UTC 2023] Invalid status, irc.techrights.org:Verify error:"error"Nov 17 12:53
techrights-secshould I try it with Apache2 installed, and leave no index.html? Nov 17 12:53
techrights-secokNov 17 12:53
schestowitz-piyes, that might work okNov 17 12:54
schestowitz-piirc has been around longer than www :-)Nov 17 12:54
schestowitz-pimatrix is already dead in many waysNov 17 12:54
schestowitz-pilayoffs, neglect; it barely lasted a decadeNov 17 12:54
techrights-secMaybe there is a firewall? Nov 17 12:55
techrights-secPort 80 or port 8880 needs to be openNov 17 12:55
techrights-sec^ ?Nov 17 12:55
techrights-secOr any high port, for the --standalone optionNov 17 13:04
techrights-secthanksNov 17 13:04
schestowitz-pilet me ask...Nov 17 13:05
schestowitz-pi<Guest90> we are trying to add a certificate for our irc server on ircnowNov 17 13:05
schestowitz-pi<Guest90> that seems to require verification over port 80, or 8880 or any higher portNov 17 13:05
schestowitz-pi<Guest90> i am guessing that it is blocked by the hypervisor?Nov 17 13:05
schestowitz-pino reply yet, in the ircnow channelNov 17 13:05
schestowitz-pi(fyi, more sources added)Nov 17 13:08
schestowitz-piputin pulling a recep Nov 17 13:17
schestowitz-pilike tiktokistan doesNov 17 13:17
schestowitz-piosama bin tiktokNov 17 13:17
schestowitz-piimmaterial rewards for border-crossingNov 17 13:17
schestowitz-piand instructional material for dodging border enforcersNov 17 13:17
schestowitz-pithe spinach edition probablt lacks those featuresNov 17 13:17
schestowitz-pihttps://www.rferl.org/a/russia-finland-closing-border-crossings/32687453.htmlNov 17 13:17
schestowitz-pihttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/world/europe/finland-russia-border.htmlNov 17 13:17
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Eyewitnesses: Russia no longer allowing asylum seekers across border ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20060590Nov 17 13:21
schestowitz-pieven with heavily fortified walls when 10,000 people come all at once and some have ladders/shovels it becomes a logistical nightmareNov 17 13:23
schestowitz-pibrigading in the physical senseNov 17 13:23
techrights-secok thanksNov 17 13:30
techrights-secYep. https://jcpa.org/article/migration-from-the-muslim-world-to-the-west-its-most-recent-trends-and-effects/Nov 17 13:30
techrights-sechttps://theconversation.com/hamas-isnt-the-first-military-group-to-hide-behind-civilians-as-a-way-to-wage-war-217880Nov 17 13:30
schestowitz-pieven with compulsory conscription, both for men and women, nordic  countries would be outnumberedNov 17 13:31
schestowitz-pireserves can be used temporarily, not a permanent patrol bodyNov 17 13:31
schestowitz-pis korea is not very concerned about the sameNov 17 13:31
schestowitz-pithere, like in singapore, men are "in service"Nov 17 13:31
schestowitz-pibut the endpoints are in need of testing at capacityNov 17 13:31
schestowitz-piat least s korea has the dnz and only one land border     Nov 17 13:31
schestowitz-pi*dmzNov 17 13:31
schestowitz-pi(don't mind me posting links, just trying hard to filter... Google News continues its staff cuts... not having much left to index is in itself a problem... no publichers left to "rip off")Nov 17 13:35
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techrights-secnp Nov 17 13:46
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Unveiling the Life Stories of Linux Innovators ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Unveiling_the_Life_Stories_of_Linux_Innovators.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Unveiling_the_Life_Stories_of_Linux_Innovators.gmi ∎Nov 17 14:14
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack and BSDNow ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Audiocasts_Shows_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_and_BSDNow.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Audiocasts_Shows_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_and_BSDNow.gmi ∎Nov 17 14:14
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Windows TCO (Security Issues) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Windows_TCO_Security_Issues.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/Windows_TCO_Security_Issues.gmi ∎Nov 17 14:15
techrights-secthe one post is missing a word or two about who Heather Meeker isNov 17 14:27
techrights-sechttps://techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Heather_Meeker_Open_to_Microsoft_Business_Proprietary_and_GPL_V.shtmlNov 17 14:27
techrights-secWho is she? Nov 17 14:27
schestowitz-piiirc, not only i did that in a rushNov 17 14:29
schestowitz-piheat of the momentNov 17 14:29
schestowitz-pibut _did_ inc. linksNov 17 14:29
schestowitz-piexplaining what she is and doesNov 17 14:29
schestowitz-pione link to TM and another to TRNov 17 14:29
schestowitz-pifor those wishing to see moreNov 17 14:29
schestowitz-pii got her sort of flaggedNov 17 14:29
schestowitz-pirevisionistNov 17 14:29
techrights-secIt's not in the text and there are too manhy links to click on randomly.Nov 17 14:29
techrights-secWho is she?  What is her supposed relation to FOSS?Nov 17 14:29
schestowitz-piwe discussed her beforeNov 17 14:32
schestowitz-pii have reservations just because perens is apparently friends with herNov 17 14:32
schestowitz-piand do not want it to seem ad hom, or "sexist"Nov 17 14:32
schestowitz-pii hardly used pronouns, eitherNov 17 14:32
schestowitz-pii left aside longer articles to do videos withNov 17 14:32
schestowitz-piwill need coffee tonightNov 17 14:32
schestowitz-pi(note: harder to fine cheaper food _anywhere_ these days, we use our older supplies)Nov 17 14:32
schestowitz-pitoday mongo seeds, 2 cans of coconut milk, 2 packs of chillis, onions, garlic, tomato, spinch, etc.Nov 17 14:32
schestowitz-pisome other more expensive ingredients, but we cannot replenish such supplies anymoreNov 17 14:32
schestowitz-pi*find , not fineNov 17 14:33
techrights-secThanks!Nov 17 14:34
techrights-secOoops.  Did it not save?Nov 17 14:36
schestowitz-pithe video?Nov 17 14:37
schestowitz-pii encoded the second version, but the first one seems betterNov 17 14:37
schestowitz-pialbeit potential copyright riskNov 17 14:37
techrights-secThe page: gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Heather_Meeker_Open_to_Microsoft_Business_Proprietary_and_GPL_V.gmiNov 17 14:40
techrights-secThere's no hint as to who she is or what here alleged ties to FOSS are.Nov 17 14:40
techrights-secRight but that's obscure, the text needs to say who she is.  I presume sheNov 17 14:40
techrights-secis some random MBA working for M$ in Redmond but cannot be sure.Nov 17 14:40
techrights-secWhat kind of contact does she have, if any, with the actual FOSS community?Nov 17 14:40
techrights-secWhere does she work, for example, or what is her job title and at which company?Nov 17 14:41
schestowitz-pithe headline is wordplayNov 17 14:41
schestowitz-piher latest bookNov 17 14:41
schestowitz-pinot too clear to me eitherNov 17 14:42
schestowitz-pishe hid some of her past with codeplex, iircNov 17 14:42
schestowitz-pishe is like jono bacon of fosspatents writing revisionism to fraudster nadella and bill the chillNov 17 14:42
techrights-secDid she write a book, if so what is her basis for authority on the topic?Nov 17 14:42
techrights-secPlease add at least two words about her employer ...Nov 17 14:42
schestowitz-pishe is a legal hack afaikNov 17 14:43
schestowitz-picannot codeNov 17 14:43
schestowitz-pidid not contribute anything like GPL Nov 17 14:44
schestowitz-piit's this whole openwashing/business/diva (cooper) thingNov 17 14:44
schestowitz-piand invited guest by microsoftNov 17 14:44
techrights-secdoes she work at IBM?  Oh, then she's say-for-pay and involved in Nov 17 14:44
techrights-secopen-washing as a service, I presume.  Nov 17 14:44
techrights-secPlease add at least two words about who she is.  The post is very confusing Nov 17 14:44
techrights-secwithout any context provided.  Nov 17 14:44
schestowitz-pii will do a video about it tonight or this weekendNov 17 14:45
schestowitz-pihttps://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/today_s_leftovers.1.shtmlNov 17 14:51
schestowitz-pivideo embeddedNov 17 14:51
schestowitz-piwait, i will combine it w/ the video about phoronix Nov 17 14:54
schestowitz-pithey have similar issuesNov 17 14:54
schestowitz-pihttps://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/17/today_s_leftovers.1.shtmlNov 17 14:54
schestowitz-pivideo embeddedNov 17 14:54
techrights-secYes, but who is the woman mentioned in "Heather Meeker: Open to Microsoft Business (Proprietary and GPL-Violating)" there?Nov 17 14:54
techrights-sechttps://techrights.org/n/2023/11/17/Heather_Meeker_Open_to_Microsoft_Business_Proprietary_and_GPL_V.shtmlNov 17 14:54
techrights-secIf you don't know, that's ok but it should be annotated that she is unknown.Nov 17 14:54
techrights-sec  Nov 17 14:54
schestowitz-piyes, i will mention how she seemingly came almost out of nowhere as "authority"Nov 17 14:54
techrights-secthanks Nov 17 14:55
schestowitz-pinot-long-lasting home projects led to some time management obstacles latelyNov 17 14:57
schestowitz-pii think pace will go back upNov 17 14:58
schestowitz-pinest-building can be investment in more productive futureNov 17 14:58
schestowitz-pimy room is tidy, not like alan cox (if you saw that video)Nov 17 14:58
techrights-secpace is less important that quality and completenessNov 17 14:58
techrights-sechaste makes wasteNov 17 14:58
techrights-seca pleasant and tidy work and living environme is very advantageousNov 17 15:02
techrights-secnot just more enjoyableNov 17 15:02
schestowitz-pii brought in extra appliancesNov 17 15:03
schestowitz-piwill back up "vonick" fully this weekendNov 17 15:03
schestowitz-pialso brought some exercise stuffNov 17 15:03
schestowitz-pi"hospital" == "downtime"Nov 17 15:03
schestowitz-piburnout or mental breakdown are another form of riskNov 17 15:11
schestowitz-pibut i am far from that, i know some who are borderlineNov 17 15:11
schestowitz-pi(esp. hard workers who lack satisfaction or cash for basics)Nov 17 15:12
schestowitz-piresult can be in bed with pyjamas till 2pmNov 17 15:13
schestowitz-piwhich causes a cycle of uselessnessNov 17 15:13
schestowitz-pigetting out of cycles is difficultNov 17 15:13
schestowitz-pisocially and professionallyNov 17 15:13
schestowitz-pi<jrmu> do you know how to request an ssl cert from let's encrypt or another provider? I'm not so familiar with the system on your distro thoughNov 17 15:48
schestowitz-pi<jrmu> on openbsd we typically use acme-client, or you could try using something like certbot or acme.sh (which unfortunately I'm not familiar with)Nov 17 15:48
schestowitz-pi<jrmu> I do have a guide for openbsd's acme-clientNov 17 15:48
techrights-secOk, thanks, will work on it more now.  Nov 17 15:48
schestowitz-pi<jrmu> you could use either the schestowitz.host.bsdforall.org subdomain or your techrights.org domainNov 17 15:49
techrights-secUnable to connect, according to the browsers:Nov 17 15:58
techrights-sechttp://irc.techrights.org:80Nov 17 15:58
techrights-sec"The connection was refused when attempting to contact irc.techrights.org"Nov 17 15:58
techrights-secok, connnected now via Apache2Nov 17 15:58
techrights-secworking on acme permissions nowNov 17 16:03
schestowitz-pigreat stuff :-)Nov 17 16:04
schestowitz-pii just checked my emailNov 17 16:04
schestowitz-pirianne and i feel like email became like wwwNov 17 16:04
schestowitz-pitoo saturated with spamNov 17 16:04
schestowitz-pifor each legit email there is a huge overheadNov 17 16:04
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techrights-secI'm not sure, acme.sh is too much of a pile of hacked together shitNov 17 16:43
techrights-secstill lookingNov 17 16:43
schestowitz-pithr ircnow network is hard to accessNov 17 16:44
schestowitz-pii still watch SNNov 17 16:44
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techrights-secI have not looked at IRC yet, just looking at Let's Encrypt so farNov 17 17:28
techrights-sectrying one last thing before calling it quits  Nov 17 17:28
techrights-secLet's Encrypt has become too automated to fit into a new environment Nov 17 17:28
techrights-secnope.  no dice. Nov 17 17:28
techrights-secI tried four methods for acme.sh and attempted certbot several ways (couldNov 17 17:28
techrights-secnot install) and a Perl acme client too.  Nov 17 17:28
techrights-secOn top of that, I don't use IRC so cannot test anything even if I got that far.Nov 17 17:28
techrights-secSo, apologies, but I won't try IRC further today or tomorrow or later.Nov 17 17:28
schestowitz-piseems one goal of this security model is, indeed, to complciate thingsNov 17 17:30
schestowitz-piand to have things expire every x months, so that it never gets "done"Nov 17 17:30
schestowitz-pifor goodNov 17 17:30
schestowitz-piiirc, kaniini also had issues with renewalkNov 17 17:30
schestowitz-pibefore sorting out the automationNov 17 17:30
schestowitz-pidespite doing this kind of thing _for a living_ at chainguardNov 17 17:30
techrights-secOne goal of this "security" model is to trick fools into Nov 17 17:31
techrights-secgiving up and typing "curl ... | sudo sh"Nov 17 17:31
techrights-secRenewal is probably not hard.  It is the initial setup on Alpine whichNov 17 17:31
techrights-secis near impossible due to the added complexity imposed on the LE project fromNov 17 17:31
techrights-secwithin.Nov 17 17:31
schestowitz-piOTANov 17 17:34
schestowitz-pirecorded 4, going to bed soonNov 17 19:07
schestowitz-piforgot to disable cpu-hoarding processNov 17 19:07
schestowitz-pithe result of not recording for this long....Nov 17 19:07
psydroid3I've been kicked on XMPP<->Biboumi because of the expired certificateNov 17 23:47

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