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techrights-newsTechrights — Welcome to the New Techrights ⇨ https://techrights.org/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ ∎Sep 18 04:17
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/IRC_Proceedings_Tuesday_September_17_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/IRC_Proceedings_Tuesday_September_17_2024.gmi ∎Sep 18 04:17
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Sep 18 04:19
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Sep 18 04:20
techrights-sec5afkSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec51) it's good that the EFF has turned its attention to this problemSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec52) it's egregious that there is no date of publication, so this linkSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5   could be months old and the EFF's initiative abandoned already in favorSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5   of spending resources supporting Iran's Hamas.  Sep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5"Tell Congress: We Can't Afford More Bad Patents | EFF Action Center"Sep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5https://act.eff.org/action/tell-congress-we-can-t-afford-more-bad-patentsSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5old:  "Senators Coons, Tillis, colleagues introduce bipartisan bill to support American inventors by reforming Patent Trial and Appeal Board"Sep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5https://www.coons.senate.gov/news/press-releases/senators-coons-tillis-colleagues-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-support-american-inventors-by-reforming-pSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5atent-trial-and-appeal-boardSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5old:  "Tillis, Coons Introduce Landmark Legislation to Restore American Innovation"Sep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5https://www.tillis.senate.gov/2023/6/tillis-coons-introduce-landmark-legislation-to-restore-american-innovationSep 18 04:23
techrights-sec5old: "Senators Kick off Bipartisan Patent Reform Effort | McCarter & English, LLP"Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5https://www.mccarter.com/insights/senators-kick-off-bipartisan-patent-reform-effort/Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5blockd by gratuitous javascript:Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5"Conservative Groups Push Senators to Pass Bipartisan Patent-Protection Laws | National Review"Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5https://www.nationalreview.com/news/conservative-groups-push-senators-to-pass-bipartisan-patent-protection-laws/Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5old:Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5"Congress Must Stop Pushing Bills That Will Benefit Patent Trolls"Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/congress-must-stop-pushing-bills-will-benefit-patent-trollsSep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5old: "Pros and Cons: The Latest Patent Legislation"Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5https://insight.ieeeusa.org/articles/pros-and-cons-the-latest-patent-legislation/Sep 18 04:24
techrights-sec5^ topic ?Sep 18 04:24
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techrights-newsTechrights – Over Half a Day Later the Media Still Doesn't Cover Thousands of Layoffs at IBM ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Over_Half_a_Day_Later_the_Media_Still_Doesn_t_Cover_Thousands_o.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Over_Half_a_Day_Later_the_Media_Still_Doesn_t_Cover_Thousands_o.gmi ∎Sep 18 05:04
schestowitz-pihttps://www.commerce.nc.gov/data-tools-reports/labor-market-data-tools/workforce-warn-reports/data-dashboard-workforce-warn-reportsSep 18 05:13
schestowitz-pino dataSep 18 05:13
schestowitz-pilunduke: trump won in 2020Sep 18 05:13
schestowitz-pihttps://lunduke.substack.com/p/mit-uses-ai-chatbots-to-brainwash      Sep 18 05:13
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techrights-newsTechrights – IBM Has Been Lobbying for Software Patents, It's Not the Free Software Community's Ally ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/IBM_Has_Been_Lobbying_for_Software_Patents_It_s_Not_the_Free_So.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/IBM_Has_Been_Lobbying_for_Software_Patents_It_s_Not_the_Free_So.gmi ∎Sep 18 05:54
schestowitz-pigoing out 3 times today, just wrote a card to rSep 18 06:11
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schestowitz-pi/schestowitz.com patched, rebootedSep 18 06:33
schestowitz-piall set!Sep 18 06:33
schestowitz-pitoday the goal is not to post a lotSep 18 06:33
schestowitz-pihealth, happiness, stability more importantSep 18 06:33
schestowitz-piwithout it, nothing else worksSep 18 06:33
schestowitz-pibowling likely tomorrow, but depends on weather factorsSep 18 06:33
schestowitz-pitomorrow is 365 days since kaniini cutoff and us getting covidSep 18 06:33
schestowitz-pithanks for swpats links/topic Sep 18 06:33
schestowitz-pimore topics needed, some are too early for me to "release"Sep 18 06:33
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  These Linux distributions are best for developers - here's why ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/These_Linux_distributions_are_best_for_developers_here_s_why.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/These_Linux_distributions_are_best_for_developers_here_s_why.gmi ∎Sep 18 06:58
techrights-newsTechrights – The Kubecost Acquisition Does Not Show IBM is Rich, It Shows It Wants to Distract From Mass Layoffs Happening This Week (Thousands Laid Off in the Dark) ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/The_Kubecost_Acquisition_Does_Not_Show_IBM_is_Rich_It_Shows_It_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/The_Kubecost_Acquisition_Does_Not_Show_IBM_is_Rich_It_Shows_It_.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:07
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Fairphone 5 review ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Fairphone_5_review.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Fairphone_5_review.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:08
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  New Distro Derivative Expands Open-Source Enterprise Linux Ecosystem ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/New_Distro_Derivative_Expands_Open_Source_Enterprise_Linux_Ecos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/New_Distro_Derivative_Expands_Open_Source_Enterprise_Linux_Ecos.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:15
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Pacman 7.0 Required Manual Intervention for Local Repositories ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/15/Pacman_7_0_Required_Manual_Intervention_for_Local_Repositories.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/15/Pacman_7_0_Required_Manual_Intervention_for_Local_Repositories.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Announcing the AlmaLinux Certification SIG ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/12/Announcing_the_AlmaLinux_Certification_SIG.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/12/Announcing_the_AlmaLinux_Certification_SIG.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:22
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Best Free and Open Source Software ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:27
techrights-newsTechrights – [Meme] Think. Positive. Saturate the Media. ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Meme_Think_Positive_Saturate_the_Media.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Meme_Think_Positive_Saturate_the_Media.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:27
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Linus Torvalds advises open-source developers to pursue meaningful projects, not hype ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Linus_Torvalds_advises_open_source_developers_to_pursue_meaning.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Linus_Torvalds_advises_open_source_developers_to_pursue_meaning.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:33
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Navidrome 0.53 Rolls Out with Enhanced UI ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Navidrome_0_53_Rolls_Out_with_Enhanced_UI.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Navidrome_0_53_Rolls_Out_with_Enhanced_UI.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Nextcloud Hub 9 Released, Here’s What’s New ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Nextcloud_Hub_9_Released_Here_s_What_s_New.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Nextcloud_Hub_9_Released_Here_s_What_s_New.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:38
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Thank you, all CentOS Sponsors ! ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Thank_you_all_CentOS_Sponsors.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Thank_you_all_CentOS_Sponsors.gmi ∎Sep 18 07:43
techrights-sec5https://yewtu.be/LG09C25LQlU Sep 18 07:55
schestowitz-piFuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.Sep 18 07:57
schestowitz-pihttps://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=LG09C25LQlUSep 18 07:57
schestowitz-piworking URLSep 18 07:57
schestowitz-pipalmOS does not connect to towersSep 18 07:59
schestowitz-piapropos lebanonSep 18 07:59
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techrights-sec5^ topic ?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5npSep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5fwiw here are some questions for Andy, he has not responded to past emailsSep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5so perhaps he can get them via you this time?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec51. What is the goal of the article?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec52. How have the changes to university financing contributed to the current mess?  And how is it possible that science and the arts have taken a distant Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5second place to economic profit?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec53. What are the analyses of the reasons for how we got into the current mess?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec54. Who benefits from the current mess?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec55. Why are IT magazines completely silent about these problems?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec56. What are possible routes out of the current mess?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5^ also possible topics ?Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5https://yewtu.be/LG09C25LQlUSep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5"Maintaining a big Invidious instance has high costs, especially now that YouTube is heavily trying to shut us down.Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5Please consider donating in order to help me keep this instance up and running."Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5"The media could not be loaded, either because the server or network failed or because the format is not supported."Sep 18 08:47
techrights-sec5+Sep 18 08:47
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schestowitz-piback from splendid runSep 18 10:59
schestowitz-pinew recordSep 18 10:59
techrights-sec5Distance or time?Sep 18 11:11
schestowitz-pidistance.Sep 18 11:12
schestowitz-piwe reckon we can do the local 10k without too much effort nowSep 18 11:12
techrights-sec5Nice! I can't run any more but when I did, 10km was very convenient Sep 18 11:14
techrights-sec5though 15km would have been optimal.   Mostly I did 5km multiple times perSep 18 11:14
techrights-sec5week.  Sep 18 11:14
techrights-sec5Should I also try to send the above 6 points to Andy?Sep 18 11:14
schestowitz-pihttps://raceforlife.cancerresearchuk.org/find-an-event/heaton-park-5k-2024-07-07-1100Sep 18 11:15
schestowitz-pihttps://www.greatrun.org/events/great-manchester-run/Sep 18 11:15
schestowitz-pihttps://www.cancerresearchuk.org/get-involved/find-an-event/great-manchester-runSep 18 11:15
schestowitz-piwhen rianne worked at sirius she always worked sundaysSep 18 11:15
schestowitz-pithose usually happen on sundaysSep 18 11:15
schestowitz-pithey close off roadsSep 18 11:15
schestowitz-pii already have in my todo, send to andy, next time i open mitchelbirdSep 18 11:15
techrights-sec5Thanks!Sep 18 11:23
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Lilbits: Furi FLX1 Linux smartphone, Tile’s new Bluetooth trackers, and Haiki OS R1 Beta 5 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/17/Lilbits_Furi_FLX1_Linux_smartphone_Tile_s_new_Bluetooth_tracker.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/17/Lilbits_Furi_FLX1_Linux_smartphone_Tile_s_new_Bluetooth_tracker.gmi ∎Sep 18 11:24
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Games: Wildkeepers Rising, Microsofters' Rootkits Breaking Linux Compatibility, and More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Games_Wildkeepers_Rising_Microsofters_Rootkits_Breaking_Linux_C.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Games_Wildkeepers_Rising_Microsofters_Rootkits_Breaking_Linux_C.gmi ∎Sep 18 11:24
schestowitz-piwe leave again in 100 minsSep 18 11:24
schestowitz-pii made breakfastSep 18 11:24
schestowitz-pithankfuly i see nothing "urgent" in news todaySep 18 11:24
schestowitz-pithere is chapions league match here today, INTER MILANSep 18 11:24
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schestowitz-pity for links todaySep 18 11:29
schestowitz-pivery relevant and tidySep 18 11:29
schestowitz-pilet's see if i can do batcj of Daily Links BEFORE leaving homeSep 18 11:29
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schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> EFF has turned KOSA into divisive politics, left and 'right' ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/09/new-us-house-version-kosa-doesnt-fix-its-biggest-problems | Source: EFFSep 18 11:43
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.eff.org | The New U.S. House Version of KOSA Doesn’t Fix Its Biggest Problems | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 18 11:43
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schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> And now they frame it as battle over abortion access. "This summer, the U.S. Senate passed the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA)" ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/09/kosas-online-censorship-threatens-abortion-access | Source: EFFSep 18 11:43
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.eff.org | KOSA’s Online Censorship Threatens Abortion Access | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 18 11:43
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Announcing Incus 6.5 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/11/Announcing_Incus_6_5.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/11/Announcing_Incus_6_5.gmi ∎Sep 18 12:01
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> So let's see, EFF, people who oppose KOSA are now "fighting nazis" or something? Is that the best way to put it? Should FSF market Free software as "fight the nazis"?Sep 18 12:03
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Then again, EFF isn't run by TECHNICAL activists anymore; many are a bunch of social outcasts, even lunaticsSep 18 12:03
techrights-sec5Yes, that seems to be part of the EFF's now standard practice.  They Sep 18 12:03
techrights-sec5take important, general issues which affect all of us and try their bestSep 18 12:03
techrights-sec5to spin the topic divisively so as to invite partisan conflict over the Sep 18 12:03
techrights-sec5topic instead of the expected unity.  They are either getting played orSep 18 12:03
techrights-sec5else have m$ moles or both. Sep 18 12:03
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Sep 18 12:12
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Open Hardware Leftovers With Focus on Raspberry Pi ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Open_Hardware_Leftovers_With_Focus_on_Raspberry_Pi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Open_Hardware_Leftovers_With_Focus_on_Raspberry_Pi.gmi ∎Sep 18 12:17
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 18 12:44
schestowitz-pileaving in 14 minsSep 18 12:52
schestowitz-piwe sit next to https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=03qyHJ1TKTESep 18 12:52
schestowitz-piyou can see the outside, about 200m from our homeSep 18 12:52
schestowitz-pinext to the banks of the canalSep 18 12:52
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techrights-newsTechrights – Morale at Microsoft Sinking, More Layoffs Expected, Stock Buybacks Blasted ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Morale_at_Microsoft_Sinking_More_Layoffs_Expected_Stock_Buyback.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Morale_at_Microsoft_Sinking_More_Layoffs_Expected_Stock_Buyback.gmi ∎Sep 18 15:08
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  GNU/Linux Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/GNU_Linux_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/GNU_Linux_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 18 15:26
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 18 15:28
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  GNOME 47 “Denver” Desktop Environment Officially Released, Here’s What’s New ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/GNOME_47_Denver_Desktop_Environment_Officially_Released_Here_s_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/GNOME_47_Denver_Desktop_Environment_Officially_Released_Here_s_.gmi ∎Sep 18 16:14
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Imagine EFF caring for the speech of Russians in social control media as much as it values the calls for genocide from Hamas fansSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-pithere are already milan fans near the stadiumSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-pihttps://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=FHYIkMXI0_8Sep 18 16:23
techrights-sec5https://milanmich.org/ ?Sep 18 16:23
techrights-sec5https://milanmich.org/ ?Sep 18 16:24
techrights-sec5https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/michigan/milanSep 18 16:24
techrights-sec5checking Sep 18 16:24
schestowitz-pichecking also...Sep 18 16:25
schestowitz-pithe official site is not very badSep 18 16:25
schestowitz-pia CITY with population so small??Sep 18 16:25
techrights-sec5checking Sep 18 16:26
techrights-sec5huge facilitySep 18 16:26
techrights-sec5Degrowth ...Sep 18 16:26
schestowitz-piDegrowth is goodSep 18 16:26
schestowitz-pibut...Sep 18 16:26
schestowitz-pidependsSep 18 16:26
techrights-sec5THe state has been shrinking mostly due to defunding of anthingSep 18 16:28
techrights-sec5that would make it attractive to new families.  Combine that with theSep 18 16:28
techrights-sec5active elimination of jobs, and the state is emptying.  Sep 18 16:28
schestowitz-pihttps://milanmich.org/water_quality/index.phpSep 18 16:30
schestowitz-pithey have water towers in usa?Sep 18 16:30
schestowitz-pii am still surprised with over-the-ground electric wiringSep 18 16:30
schestowitz-pithey really need to upcycleSep 18 16:30
schestowitz-pidefunding forces lovers of the community, places, culture to go elsewhereSep 18 16:30
schestowitz-pifor jobs at leastSep 18 16:30
schestowitz-pivery sadSep 18 16:30
schestowitz-pilike ryan and Marion INSep 18 16:30
techrights-sec5https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098213/Sep 18 16:31
techrights-sec5https://cms7files.revize.com/milanmi/document_center/Departments/Public%20works/Milan%20Water%20Quality%20Report%202023-Final.pdfSep 18 16:31
techrights-sec5The utilities are privatized and only collect money, and refuse to spendSep 18 16:31
techrights-sec5a penny on repairing or even maintaining the infrastructure.Sep 18 16:31
techrights-sec5Yes, it causes an exodus.  Sep 18 16:31
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schestowitz-pii heard od that movieSep 18 16:33
schestowitz-pididn't know he make them so far back Sep 18 16:33
schestowitz-piremember he paid assange's first bailSep 18 16:33
schestowitz-pii will never ever forget thatSep 18 16:33
techrights-sec5https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098213/plotsummary/Sep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5https://www.bridgemi.com/business-watch/they-destroyed-our-little-town-what-michigans-auto-industry-left-behindSep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5It was a really good movie unlike his Columbine movieSep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5There was a single showing of the anti-Nazi movie Blood in the Face Sep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5in the whole state.  He wrote that he was there.  So I saw him and Sep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5did not know it.  The into was by someone with a dual comp sci / film studiesSep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5program who became a mentor at work, back when they tried the mentoringSep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5thing.   He was a heavy user of the mainframe at a time when I had alreadySep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5jumped onto UNIX though.  It seems, like many graduating that year in Sep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5comp sci, that he became independently wealthy.   Sep 18 16:36
techrights-sec5Anyway, MM mortgaged his own house to make the Roger and Me film.  Sep 18 16:36
schestowitz-pigivinh up money and assets for ideaological reasons is a mark of principled personSep 18 16:40
schestowitz-piinependnely wealth != ethically wealthy Sep 18 16:40
schestowitz-pi(talkinmg to the choir) wealthy != smart of skilledSep 18 16:40
schestowitz-pithere can be overlapsSep 18 16:40
techrights-sec5It is coming up on the 35th anniversary of the movie.Sep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5Correct.  I have no idea how many of them gained wealth without severe Sep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5compromise to morals, ethics, values, etc.   Sep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5Mikek (the film/cs guy) was very talentedSep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5He set up the web shop *and* payment system for what was the world's secondSep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5web shop.  It's long gone now.  Killed by Amazon.  Even the site is gone andSep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5the domain occupied by squatters now.   Sep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5The shop sold hot sauce over the web at a time when it was in fashion,  Sep 18 16:43
techrights-sec5Anyway, I recommend the movie, Roger and Me, if you can get it at Sep 18 16:44
techrights-sec5the library.  The movie, Blood in the Face, despite noble intentions Sep 18 16:44
techrights-sec5was kind of a failure and not very good and rather ineffective.Sep 18 16:44
techrights-sec5I figure it set back the work against nazism noticeably by portraying themSep 18 16:44
techrights-sec5as harmless clowns instead of reporting the real situation at the time Sep 18 16:44
techrights-sec5and their growth in danger and increase in economic and political strengthSep 18 16:44
schestowitz-pii am unable to comment on thatSep 18 16:45
techrights-sec5Howell, MI was / is a hotbed.  Same with the other towns in an arcSep 18 16:45
techrights-sec5outside Detroit.  Sep 18 16:45
schestowitz-pimy opion of usa culture is very negative, more so after 2003Sep 18 16:48
schestowitz-pibut my nephew is there playing football ("soccer") and my in law lost his jobSep 18 16:48
schestowitz-piwent to a small one recentlySep 18 16:48
schestowitz-pididn't tell anybobySep 18 16:48
schestowitz-piusa is ok when you come from xyzSep 18 16:48
schestowitz-pii'd never move thereSep 18 16:48
schestowitz-pii don't like the culture and peopleSep 18 16:48
schestowitz-pii am too low tempered to cope thereSep 18 16:48
techrights-sec5Little Bush not only burned up all the goodwill that Europe held for the USSep 18 16:49
techrights-sec5due to WWII, but even generated antipathy in the younger generations.  ThatSep 18 16:49
techrights-sec5is all his fault.  Sep 18 16:49
techrights-sec5The culture has changed for the worse, drastically, in the last 25 years.Sep 18 16:49
techrights-sec5Furthermore, due to the fallout from the Reagan administration onward,  Sep 18 16:49
techrights-sec5there are now *THREE* generations without basic education.  Yes, you canSep 18 16:49
techrights-sec5find exceptions, but they are just that exceptions.  Sep 18 16:49
schestowitz-pieven in 1998  the usa attitufe was off-putting to meSep 18 16:51
schestowitz-pibut the country was well offSep 18 16:51
schestowitz-pibefore ther bubble went boomSep 18 16:51
schestowitz-pii nearly applied for unis thereSep 18 16:51
schestowitz-pibostonSep 18 16:51
schestowitz-pimy aunt sent me books and papers for itSep 18 16:51
techrights-sec5Which one in Boston?  Sep 18 16:52
techrights-sec5In the 1950s it was still economically feasible to have a clam bake on Sep 18 16:52
techrights-sec5the beach there.  Sep 18 16:52
techrights-sec5In the 1950s it was still economically feasible to have a clam bake on Sep 18 16:52
techrights-sec5the beach there.  Probably non-toxic enough, tooSep 18 16:52
schestowitz-pii did not get that farSep 18 16:53
schestowitz-pionly did 6 through ucas in ukSep 18 16:53
schestowitz-pigot accepted into 4 of themSep 18 16:53
schestowitz-pii 'dodged the bullet'Sep 18 16:53
schestowitz-pino country is doing 'well' atmSep 18 16:53
schestowitz-pipsydroid says even oslo became a shithole of junkiesSep 18 16:53
techrights-sec5Getting an undergraduate degree in the US and then returning to the UKSep 18 16:54
techrights-sec5for masters and PhD would have been a good combinationSep 18 16:55
techrights-sec5Not just junkies but also jihadis there in OsloSep 18 16:55
techrights-sec5Oh, if you were going to have to pay the tuition yourself then, no, I recind  Sep 18 16:55
techrights-sec5the recommnedation.  The debt is not worth it, even back then. Sep 18 16:55
schestowitz-pino, admissions/tuitions expensive in usaSep 18 16:56
schestowitz-pi(imp reminder: me choosing unis for CS was BEFORE the bubble burst)Sep 18 16:56
schestowitz-piit was at its peakSep 18 16:56
schestowitz-pithat's all in rhw past noqwSep 18 16:56
schestowitz-pi2024 is a "different reality"Sep 18 16:56
schestowitz-pii enjoy simpler thingsSep 18 16:56
schestowitz-pino RTO by CEO from BezosInc.Sep 18 16:56
schestowitz-pii have family thereSep 18 16:57
schestowitz-pishe hates the placeSep 18 16:57
techrights-sec5Before peak was still good, at peak was ok.  Then the microsofters showedSep 18 16:57
techrights-sec5up and tore it all down -- everywhere. Sep 18 16:57
techrights-sec5Can she escape?Sep 18 16:57
schestowitz-pimaybe too late nowSep 18 16:59
schestowitz-pibefore peak many things were differentSep 18 16:59
schestowitz-pinot just MSFT aspectsSep 18 16:59
schestowitz-pibut.Sep 18 16:59
schestowitz-piwhere to begin...?Sep 18 16:59
schestowitz-piryan and others recall in ircSep 18 16:59
schestowitz-pi80s and 90sSep 18 16:59
schestowitz-pimany things were... differentSep 18 16:59
schestowitz-pinow you talk to people whose eyes are in their "pockets" ('phones')Sep 18 16:59
schestowitz-piand cannot even read numbers on a cash registerSep 18 16:59
techrights-sec5The worst part is that the 1980s sucked and there was only a little let upSep 18 17:01
techrights-sec5in the 1990s for a few years.   The decline started with the Reagan           Sep 18 17:01
techrights-sec5administration,  Sep 18 17:01
techrights-sec5That, again, goes back to *THREE* generations without education. Sep 18 17:01
techrights-sec5That means that not even a kid's grandparents can show them or tell them better.Sep 18 17:01
schestowitz-piin 2003 i  got job offer in cs in londonSep 18 17:01
schestowitz-pibut it was dodgy to meSep 18 17:01
schestowitz-pifriends said do phdSep 18 17:01
schestowitz-pii asked many friends who were very very smartSep 18 17:02
schestowitz-piand wrote down a pdf witrh the decision treeSep 18 17:02
schestowitz-pii still have itSep 18 17:02
schestowitz-pithen in 2007 i was finishing the phd and the economy was sinking againSep 18 17:02
techrights-sec5PhD was probably still a smarter move.   Sep 18 17:02
techrights-sec5yes keyword: againSep 18 17:02
techrights-sec5another keyword: on purposeSep 18 17:02
schestowitz-pikey facts:Sep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pi- must think ahead 4 decades, not 4 yearsSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-piunless you expect cancer at 30 or somethingSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pimy dsd and i discussed in swiss trains around 2000 the shift to india for csSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-piit had already begunSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pithey can work 60 hours/week for less paySep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pithey can do anythingSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pi- the economy has many "red flags" and many  "kick teh can down the road some more"Sep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pi- some personal aspects, less relwevant hereSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pics now is, as andy put it in the draft, something elseSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pias also covered in "Clown Computing"Sep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pii like how he frames itSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-piand he likes TR a lotSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pihe takes ideas from usSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pihe likes talking to rianne - it's another POVSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pics is not "coming back"Sep 18 17:05
schestowitz-pirianne is probably one of the very feww 'freesw purist' girlsSep 18 17:06
schestowitz-piand veggetarian etc - not that it's related - but it did make her happySep 18 17:06
schestowitz-pitoday was lots of fun - better than expected - she's back at 9pm, i pick her up near the stadium at halftimeSep 18 17:06
schestowitz-pibtw, TFA can be done over landlineSep 18 17:08
schestowitz-pithey don't advertise itSep 18 17:08
schestowitz-pibut it got done okSep 18 17:08
schestowitz-pimany ways to bypass - like that polish student who graduated without propr' swSep 18 17:08
schestowitz-piiirc, it was you who sent link re .sw trying to -de-deigitalise youghSep 18 17:08
schestowitz-piwill they only admit the recognise the harm done, too? like surgeon general in usa?Sep 18 17:08
techrights-sec5I really wish it could somehow.  But the big money is working against Sep 18 17:09
techrights-sec5it and will finish off the last holdouts soon. Sep 18 17:09
techrights-sec5Yes but she went through when FOSS was still the norm.Sep 18 17:09
techrights-sec5Uh oh.Sep 18 17:09
techrights-sec5Big crowds thenSep 18 17:09
techrights-sec5Interesting that NHS hides that.Sep 18 17:10
techrights-sec5.se    Sep 18 17:10
techrights-sec5yesSep 18 17:10
techrights-sec5The damage is done for a full generation already though.Sep 18 17:10
techrights-sec5Hopefully no new damage from schools misusing smartphones.Sep 18 17:10
schestowitz-pire >Big crowds thenSep 18 17:10
schestowitz-pino, halftimeSep 18 17:10
schestowitz-pieveryone is still insideSep 18 17:10
schestowitz-piand we get to see nice big horsesSep 18 17:10
schestowitz-pipolice horsesSep 18 17:10
schestowitz-pisomtimes they stroll near the back of our houseSep 18 17:10
schestowitz-piand can hear the stridesSep 18 17:10
schestowitz-pibut they're there for hooliganismSep 18 17:10
techrights-sec5GoodSep 18 17:11
techrights-sec5InterestingSep 18 17:11
schestowitz-pii think we learned to "master" joy of simple thingsSep 18 17:12
schestowitz-pithis past hour i feed the birds hereSep 18 17:12
schestowitz-pitoday they had some fights i had to breakSep 18 17:12
schestowitz-pione got the courage not to just run awaySep 18 17:12
schestowitz-piand started to assert territorySep 18 17:12
schestowitz-piuntil thepartner of the other cameSep 18 17:12
schestowitz-pitoday rianne said,Sep 18 17:12
schestowitz-pilast time i boought someething that i've not used wa sa year agoiSep 18 17:12
schestowitz-piso i am cured off "shopping"Sep 18 17:12
techrights-sec5NiceSep 18 17:12
techrights-sec5ExcellentSep 18 17:12
schestowitz-piremember she nblocks adsSep 18 17:14
schestowitz-pioutside influences on her are very innocuous atmSep 18 17:14
schestowitz-pisher does not do social control media or "apps"Sep 18 17:14
schestowitz-pithat makes her a "bad" consumer and citizenSep 18 17:14
schestowitz-pii'm ok with thatSep 18 17:14
techrights-sec5You might enjoy the film "They Live"Sep 18 17:14
schestowitz-pichecking if youtube/invidious has thatSep 18 17:14
schestowitz-pii think i watched itSep 18 17:14
schestowitz-piyou or ryan shared this url before, iircSep 18 17:18
techrights-sec5https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/Sep 18 17:19
techrights-sec5It was the one with the fight in the alleySep 18 17:19
techrights-sec5and the sunglassesSep 18 17:19
techrights-sec5Quite likely.  It is more than a cult classic.Sep 18 17:19
techrights-sec5"Nada: I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."Sep 18 17:19
techrights-sec5"buy ... consume ... obey" Sep 18 17:19
techrights-sec5It covers a lot of political / economic topics in a short space.Sep 18 17:19
techrights-sec5under the disguise of a sci-fi action movieSep 18 17:19
schestowitz-pijust watched the trailerSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-pia bit all over the placeSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-pii am feeding the birds every 5 minsSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-piit's relaxingSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-pithey interact with meSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-piso i have companySep 18 17:21
schestowitz-pii organise the area to be clean and tidy Sep 18 17:21
schestowitz-piand good for themSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-piwe clean it ocd style almostSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-pibut those are like pets nowSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-pii bought about 7kg of food on sunday for themSep 18 17:21
techrights-sec5The trailer is likely to be worthless.Sep 18 17:21
techrights-sec5It's a hard film to summarize without ruining the whole plot.Sep 18 17:21
techrights-sec5Yes, it is important to keep the feeding area clean due to salmonella and suchSep 18 17:21
schestowitz-piclean space also nice to look atSep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pii use steel brush, so also good exerciseSep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pifeels like friday and 90s todaySep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pipeople playing old music outsideSep 18 17:24
schestowitz-piand it's warm, sunny Sep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pioff-work tomorrowSep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pii had some booze in the afternoon, not muchSep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pi90s films were maybe for a different brainSep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pimaybe that's why today's music and films "suck"Sep 18 17:24
schestowitz-pimade for "streaming", fake audio playyback modalitiesSep 18 17:25
schestowitz-piand economically, not artisticallySep 18 17:25
schestowitz-pisame for the foodsSep 18 17:25
schestowitz-pieven the cakes now are a pile of preservativesSep 18 17:25
schestowitz-piit's "cheap"Sep 18 17:25
schestowitz-piand most people can now only afford cheapSep 18 17:25
schestowitz-piultra-processedSep 18 17:25
techrights-sec5We visited some friends of xxxxxx the other week.  The one had won Sep 18 17:27
techrights-sec5national music compositions.  He played a few waltzes on the accordian Sep 18 17:27
techrights-sec5so we danced briefly.  That was real music.Sep 18 17:27
techrights-sec5Earbud music is with no dynamic range and very narrow frequency range andSep 18 17:27
techrights-sec5no subtlety with timbre and other aspects.Sep 18 17:27
techrights-sec5Autotune citySep 18 17:27
schestowitz-pi-------------------Sep 18 17:28
schestowitz-piyes, but only recently i thought of the whole device aspectSep 18 17:28
schestowitz-pithe music adapted to the techSep 18 17:28
schestowitz-pinot the other way aroundSep 18 17:28
schestowitz-pirepeat for movies, food, flights (pricing/dynamic pricing/service levels)Sep 18 17:28
techrights-sec5aYes the music adapted to the tech.  So did the money.  Sep 18 17:29
techrights-sec5For rap you do not need much, not even a band or much of a road crew Sep 18 17:29
techrights-sec5Just a drum machine, autotune, and someone willing to toe the lineSep 18 17:29
techrights-sec5while gesticulating profitably. Sep 18 17:29
schestowitz-pithey optimised for moneySep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pilike EFF didSep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pinot the original thing that brought in the moneySep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pitoday i was curious about this "drake" 'artist'Sep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pii don't know his musicSep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pii played his 'best'Sep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pinot a single track was goodSep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pijust talking and generic background "music"Sep 18 17:30
schestowitz-pilike 8-bit nintendoSep 18 17:30
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techrights-sec5The EFF has become a placeholder to block money from any new organizationSep 18 17:34
techrights-sec5which might try to actually protect digital rights.Sep 18 17:34
techrights-sec5Yes, a lot of the 'music' seems to me more as music-like background noise.Sep 18 17:34
techrights-sec5I knew someone who would 'talk American' like when he was a kid withSep 18 17:34
techrights-sec5toy plastic soldiers.  It sounded just like American Engish butSep 18 17:34
techrights-sec5was just garbled sounds.  The 'music' marketed these days seemsSep 18 17:34
techrights-sec5like the musical equivalent.  Sep 18 17:34
schestowitz-pia wqeek ago i played this for rianne:Sep 18 17:37
schestowitz-pihttps://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=VYJo6r5qhccSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-pii said, listen to the voicesSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-pithat's singingSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-pitehe arrangement is very expensiveSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-pi"hey hi" means even cheaper stuff to compete againstSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-piso it becomes less viable to new gen audienceSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-piit is risky "investment"Sep 18 17:37
schestowitz-pilike a high-budget movieSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-piyou sink in money into 100-piece orchestra and many vocalistsSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-piand hope to fill up stadiums duing covid-19 lockdownsSep 18 17:37
techrights-sec5it's checkingSep 18 17:37
techrights-sec5an actual concertSep 18 17:37
schestowitz-piyou lower expectationsSep 18 17:38
schestowitz-piand they meet the new levelsSep 18 17:38
schestowitz-pilike telling people bagging their own goods and waiting 10 mins in the single till open is "normal"Sep 18 17:38
schestowitz-piand this is "modern"Sep 18 17:38
schestowitz-pi(prices still go up)Sep 18 17:38
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Haiku Activity & Contract Report, August 2024 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Haiku_Activity_Contract_Report_August_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Haiku_Activity_Contract_Report_August_2024.gmi ∎Sep 18 17:45
techrights-sec5'dynamic pricing' is driven by algorithms.  but concert tickets are also       Sep 18 17:50
techrights-sec5worsened by ticketmaster's monopoly *and* ticketmaster's business modelSep 18 17:50
techrights-sec5which profits more from re-selling (read: scalping) than from initial sales.Sep 18 17:50
techrights-sec5The Manchester, UK group Oasis was in the center of such a stormm recently.Sep 18 17:50
schestowitz-pilol, the timingSep 18 17:51
schestowitz-pithe stadium began playing oasis (live performer)Sep 18 17:51
schestowitz-pijust 1 minute agoSep 18 17:51
schestowitz-pii can heard it through my door right nowSep 18 17:51
schestowitz-pii guess warm-up for the football matchSep 18 17:51
techrights-sec5I had never heard of Oasis till the other day.  No idea about their soundSep 18 17:51
techrights-sec5But apparently old people were willing to spend 350 per ticket.Sep 18 17:51
techrights-sec5All the while while grousing about the prices.Sep 18 17:51
schestowitz-pisome old people have more money than they have years left to spend itSep 18 17:52
schestowitz-piits the types who also fly "first class"Sep 18 17:52
schestowitz-piburn baby burnSep 18 17:52
techrights-sec5It's physically unsafe to fly cattle class any more, the seats have Sep 18 17:53
techrights-sec5no room and not just no room but really no room Sep 18 17:53
psydruidOasis isn't even a stand-out band from the 90sSep 18 17:54
schestowitz-pirightSep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pii last flew 2018Sep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pia week before moving to kaniini's serverSep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pion one flight lufthansa gave a very simple yellow cheese sandich triangleSep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pihow generous!Sep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pion the way back berlin airport delayed the lflight by hoursSep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pino places to even sit!Sep 18 17:55
schestowitz-piunless you got luckySep 18 17:55
schestowitz-piand all the shops closedSep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pii wrote some article about uspto there while waitingSep 18 17:55
schestowitz-pipsydruid: they have wome woman singingSep 18 17:56
schestowitz-pithe oasis classicsSep 18 17:56
schestowitz-pifirst CL match tonigfhtSep 18 17:56
psydruidOasis are City fansSep 18 17:57
psydruidthat's probably itSep 18 17:57
psydruidso they're the local guys supporting the local teamSep 18 17:57
techrights-sec5I last flew 2010Sep 18 18:07
techrights-sec5Before that it was 2008, but before that it was once a yearSep 18 18:07
techrights-sec5from 1996 to 2005.  :/Sep 18 18:07
psydruidfor me it was 2017Sep 18 18:07
psydruidI only really flew from 2014 to 2017Sep 18 18:08
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Qubes OS 4.2.3 has been released! ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Qubes_OS_4_2_3_has_been_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Qubes_OS_4_2_3_has_been_released.gmi ∎Sep 18 18:08
psydruidonce in 2003 and once in 1989Sep 18 18:08
psydruidwell, back and forthSep 18 18:08
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Steady in a shifting Open Source world: FreeBSD’s enduring stability ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Steady_in_a_shifting_Open_Source_world_FreeBSD_s_enduring_stabi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Steady_in_a_shifting_Open_Source_world_FreeBSD_s_enduring_stabi.gmi ∎Sep 18 18:10
psydruidI also noticed the jihadis in oslo and called them mujahedeen, even though they consider themselves mujahereen ("refugees")Sep 18 18:22
psydruidI haven't been there since 2017, thoughSep 18 18:22
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schestowitz-pi> THanks. Okay I can work on that.Sep 18 18:56
schestowitz-pi-andySep 18 18:56
techrights-sec5Plus a few work-related flights, but when I could I took the trainSep 18 18:56
techrights-sec5for most regional travel.   Sep 18 18:56
schestowitz-pitrains became more expensive than flights on many routesSep 18 18:57
techrights-sec5Part of the reason for that price disparity is due to price dumping andSep 18 19:05
techrights-sec5massive subsidies for the flights.  Another is the abuse of dynamic pricingSep 18 19:05
techrights-sec5algorithms on the trains tickets these days to drive the ticket prices upSep 18 19:05
techrights-sec5very high.  Sep 18 19:05
schestowitz-piyes, we learned to 'game back' the systemSep 18 19:05
schestowitz-pia bitSep 18 19:05
psydruidI booked some trains for my mum using Trainline recently, but those are only worth it when they are about the same price as a busSep 18 19:08
psydruidin the Netherlands there is no "dynamic pricing" for trains yetSep 18 19:08
schestowitz-pi2611    /n/2024/09/09/Video_Richard_Stallman_s_New_Talk_in_Germany_Covers_What_Free_S.shtmlSep 18 19:15
schestowitz-pi3395    /n/2024/09/17/Mass_Layoffs_at_IBM_Today_Just_Like_Prominent_Rumours_Said_Upfr.shtmlSep 18 19:15
schestowitz-piThe Register now works on a story about IBM layoffs. AT LAST! "If you were affected by this round of layoffs and you'd be willing to speak to The Register, feel free to get in touch. tclaburn (at) theregister (dot) com" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uz6XD8CSep 18 19:24
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Mozilla/Firefox: Tor Browser 13.5.4, Comments to NIST, and Spam Management in Thunderbird ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Mozilla_Firefox_Tor_Browser_13_5_4_Comments_to_NIST_and_Spam_Ma.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Mozilla_Firefox_Tor_Browser_13_5_4_Comments_to_NIST_and_Spam_Ma.gmi ∎Sep 18 19:33
techrights-sec5Excellent improvement on the part of TheReg!Sep 18 19:35
techrights-sec5afkSep 18 19:36
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  EasyOS Scarthgap-series version 6.3.1 released ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/EasyOS_Scarthgap_series_version_6_3_1_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/EasyOS_Scarthgap_series_version_6_3_1_released.gmi ∎Sep 18 19:45
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  GNOME Asia Summit 2024 and Akademy 2024 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/GNOME_Asia_Summit_2024_and_Akademy_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/GNOME_Asia_Summit_2024_and_Akademy_2024.gmi ∎Sep 18 19:48
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  FreeBSD 13.4-RELEASE Announcement ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/17/FreeBSD_13_4_RELEASE_Announcement.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/17/FreeBSD_13_4_RELEASE_Announcement.gmi ∎Sep 18 19:52
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Broken e-Visa scheme could lead to digital Windrush scandal ☞ https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/broken-e-visa-scheme-could-lead-to-digital-windrush-scandal/Sep 18 19:56
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.openrightsgroup.org | Broken e-Visa scheme could lead to digital Windrush scandal | Open Rights GroupSep 18 19:56
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> ORG is now a mass immigration group, not what it originally was ☞ https://www.openrightsgroup.org/publications/e-visas-hostile-and-broken/Sep 18 19:56
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.openrightsgroup.org | e-Visas: Hostile and Broken | Open Rights GroupSep 18 19:56
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> They are colouring political, religious, and Islamist objectives using the "digital rights" brushSep 18 19:57
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  MX Linux 23.4 Released with Linux Kernel 6.10, Based on Debian 12.7 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/16/MX_Linux_23_4_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_10_Based_on_Debian_1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/16/MX_Linux_23_4_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_10_Based_on_Debian_1.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:07
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Germany’s Sovereign Tech Fund Injects €688K into Samba ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/16/Germany_s_Sovereign_Tech_Fund_Injects_688K_into_Samba.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/16/Germany_s_Sovereign_Tech_Fund_Injects_688K_into_Samba.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:40
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:52
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Openwashing and Proprietary Traps Disguised as "Open" ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Openwashing_and_Proprietary_Traps_Disguised_as_Open.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Openwashing_and_Proprietary_Traps_Disguised_as_Open.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:53
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Hardware: Purism, ESP32, and More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Hardware_Purism_ESP32_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/18/Hardware_Purism_ESP32_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:57
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 18/09/2024: Web Server Survey Shows Microsoft Down Again, Omkhar Arasaratnam Leaves Microsoft-connected OpenSSF ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Links_18_09_2024_Web_Server_Survey_Shows_Microsoft_Down_Again_O.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/18/Links_18_09_2024_Web_Server_Survey_Shows_Microsoft_Down_Again_O.gmi ∎Sep 18 20:58
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