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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Dec 18 00:40
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Perl π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Perl_Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Perl_Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 18 00:43
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Debian 12.4 β€œBookworm” Released with 94 Bug Fixes and 65 Security Updates ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/Debian_12_4_Bookworm_Released_with_94_Bug_Fixes_and_65_Security.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/Debian_12_4_Bookworm_Released_with_94_Bug_Fixes_and_65_Security.gmi ∎Dec 18 00:45
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schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> 'Green Nobel' Prize to Recognize Environmental Work in Amazon Rainforest www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-12-13/green-nobel-prize-to-recognize-environmental-work-in-amazon-rainforest Nobel has become a GENERIC term. They made up a fake "Nobel" for economics, for instanceDec 18 00:59
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Red Hat and RHEL Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Red_Hat_and_RHEL_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Red_Hat_and_RHEL_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 18 02:30
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Germany to stop accepting imams trained in Turkey https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-stop-accepting-imams-trained-in-turkey/a-67722838 not ALL imams (hate preachers)?Dec 18 02:35
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techrights-newsTechrights β€” Welcome to the New Techrights ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ ∎Dec 18 02:43
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Sunday, December 17, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/irc-log-171223.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/irc-log-171223.gmi ∎Dec 18 02:43
schestowitz-pi2> Hi, Roy!Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> I am glad that I almost recovered from a fewer today and stumbled upon Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> the "Please Help Us Help You" post on techrights.org just in time. One Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> more day, and I could miss the moment!Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2I am glad you saw it. Made my day!Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2 Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> Although PayPal throws me an error when I try to use the "Donate" link Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> (likely something on my side; I did not use PayPal much), I send a bit Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> via it by specifying your email directly, and I hope you will receive it.Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2Yes, it came across correctly. Thank you!Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> It is not much, but I hope it will help. : )Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2Anything helps! Thanks! I work very hard on the sites.Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> I plan to review the funding for my department in January/February and Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> allocate some of it for monthly donations to techrights.org and you. Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> Please send me details for other available methods to donate that I Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> could use besides PayPal, so when I am ready, I can try to use them for Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> a transfer.Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2Yes, that would be better, less commissions too. I keep getting told PayPal is really bad, but the common alternatives (other than bank account) are bad in other/similar ways. I can send you bank details and IBAN/SWIFT.Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> I wish you a very happy birthday! I wish you would always stay strong Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> and defeat your enemies. You are fighting for the right things.Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2Thank you, it is heartwarming to hear that.Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> Thank you for your great work that benefits the whole Freedom Software Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> community!Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> Warmly,Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2Have a happy new year (greetings upfront).Dec 18 02:54
schestowitz-pi2> Dr Schestowitz,Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> You are very welcome!  May you publish many stories in 2024, and I lookDec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> forward to reading and learning from all of them!Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> I rely on Techrights's reporting, and I know that you will put my donationDec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> to moral and practical use.Dec 18 02:58
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schestowitz-pi2> Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> Thank you again for Techrights and all that you do!Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2> Gratefully,Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi2Thanks!! You are now our biggest supporter :)Dec 18 02:58
schestowitz-pi21) we got about $400 in supportDec 18 03:07
schestowitz-pi22) i sorted out pgp signing to gmxDec 18 03:07
*Received a CTCP VERSION from HarambeDec 18 03:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  postmarketOS 23.12 Brings the GNOME 45 Desktop to Linux Phones and Tablets ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/postmarketOS_23_12_Brings_the_GNOME_45_Desktop_to_Linux_Phones_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/postmarketOS_23_12_Brings_the_GNOME_45_Desktop_to_Linux_Phones_.gmi ∎Dec 18 03:42
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schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> So many headlines these days end with a question mark/s. "YOU ASK ME?? Don't. Study the facts." Or: "YOU TELL ME. Find out, report it.". We can only guess journalists are too lazy to do actual work, they just quote "tweets" instead.Dec 18 04:04
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Articles that quote "tweets" as sources = publications that are controlled by Elon Musk through curation (algorithmic bias). No need for Musk to bribe thousands of publishers like Bill Gates does.Dec 18 04:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Proprietary Stuff and Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/16/Proprietary_Stuff_and_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/16/Proprietary_Stuff_and_Linux.gmi ∎Dec 18 04:35
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Dec 18 04:40
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Linux 6.7-rc6 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Linux_6_7_rc6.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Linux_6_7_rc6.gmi ∎Dec 18 04:50
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Audiocasts/Shows: The Linux Link Tech Show, FLOSS Weekly, and Plenty in YouTube ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Audiocasts_Shows_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_FLOSS_Weekly_and_Plen.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Audiocasts_Shows_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_FLOSS_Weekly_and_Plen.gmi ∎Dec 18 04:52
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  FOSS, Gentoo, FSFE, and Debian ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/FOSS_Gentoo_FSFE_and_Debian.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/FOSS_Gentoo_FSFE_and_Debian.gmi ∎Dec 18 04:55
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Free Software for Android and SparkFun's Xmas Stuff ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Free_Software_for_Android_and_SparkFun_s_Xmas_Stuff.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Free_Software_for_Android_and_SparkFun_s_Xmas_Stuff.gmi ∎Dec 18 04:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Kernel: Linus Torvalds and Changwoo Min's Take on BPF-extensible scheduler class ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Kernel_Linus_Torvalds_and_Changwoo_Min_s_Take_on_BPF_extensible.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Kernel_Linus_Torvalds_and_Changwoo_Min_s_Take_on_BPF_extensible.gmi ∎Dec 18 04:58
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Integrity, TCO, and Security Isssues ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Integrity_TCO_and_Security_Isssues.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Integrity_TCO_and_Security_Isssues.gmi ∎Dec 18 05:02
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 18/12/2023: Media Repression and Lots of Political News From the Past Week ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Links_18_12_2023_Media_Repression_and_Lots_of_Political_News_Fr.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Links_18_12_2023_Media_Repression_and_Lots_of_Political_News_Fr.gmi ∎Dec 18 05:03
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Dec 18 05:05
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Dec 18 05:07
schestowitz-pi2[19:24] <techrights-sec> That is a step forwardDec 18 05:24
schestowitz-pi2[19:24] <techrights-sec> DoS /is/ an acknowledged crime these days, whether executed viaDec 18 05:24
schestowitz-pi2[19:24] <techrights-sec> the usual compromised windoze boxes or via social engineeringDec 18 05:24
schestowitz-pi2[19:24] <schestowitz-pi> thanks, i used this term to explain to mthemDec 18 05:25
schestowitz-pi2[19:24] <schestowitz-pi> the police here too fell for social engineeringDec 18 05:25
schestowitz-pi2[19:24] <schestowitz-pi> opened a case to a nutcase in anothjer countryDec 18 05:25
schestowitz-pi2[19:24] <schestowitz-pi> false report is a crimeDec 18 05:25
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 18 05:26
schestowitz-pi2The message to the provided omitted the police report numbers or at leastDec 18 05:26
schestowitz-pi2mention that the numbers had been provided previously.  There is a lowDec 18 05:26
schestowitz-pi2probability that any given harassing report is either read by the same personDec 18 05:26
schestowitz-pi2or that any given new person will be allowed time to slog through the old reports postsDec 18 05:26
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 18 05:26
schestowitz-pi2oldDec 18 05:29
schestowitz-pi2:"Dec 18 05:29
schestowitz-pi2today i got the next hosting billDec 18 05:29
schestowitz-pi2maybe a sign that we're okDec 18 05:29
schestowitz-pi2and that legal said, "ingore"Dec 18 05:29
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 18 05:29
schestowitz-pi2old: "I hope the bill is a sign that things are all right."Dec 18 05:30
schestowitz-pi2SeptemberDec 18 05:30
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techrights-newsTechrights – Stopping Abuse Against Richard Stallman and Eben Moglen by Illuminating the Attacks on Techrights ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Stopping_Abuse_Against_Richard_Stallman_and_Eben_Moglen_by_Illu.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Stopping_Abuse_Against_Richard_Stallman_and_Eben_Moglen_by_Illu.gmi ∎Dec 18 05:58
techrights-newsTechrights – [Meme] Hoist With His Own Petard ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/_Meme_Hoist_With_His_Own_Petard.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/_Meme_Hoist_With_His_Own_Petard.gmi ∎Dec 18 06:12
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  An update on HDR and color management in KWin ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/An_update_on_HDR_and_color_management_in_KWin.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/An_update_on_HDR_and_color_management_in_KWin.gmi ∎Dec 18 06:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Review: rlxos 2023.11 "Silanghana" ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Review_rlxos_2023_11_Silanghana.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Review_rlxos_2023_11_Silanghana.gmi ∎Dec 18 06:18
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  11 Best Free and Open Source Unified Modeling Language Tools ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/11_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Unified_Modeling_Language_Tools.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/11_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Unified_Modeling_Language_Tools.gmi ∎Dec 18 06:23
techrights-secgmDec 18 06:24
techrights-secXitter == hearsayDec 18 06:24
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Germany: Number of animals used in testing drops again https://www.dw.com/en/germany-number-of-animals-used-in-testing-drops-again/a-67695101Dec 18 06:24
schestowitz-pi2-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Germany: Number of animals used in testing drops again – DW – 12/11/2023Dec 18 06:24
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> The animal called "humans" was subjected to lots of testing in recent years. Experimental vaccines administered to billions and they barely report the results of the experiments as that might "insult" the media, the government, the medical profession, and the pharma companies that bagged billionsDec 18 06:24
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Rishi 'Brexit' Sunak, the genius who knows everything... "coz money!" https://www.dw.com/en/uk-s-rishi-sunak-questioned-at-covid-19-inquiry/a-67686562Dec 18 06:24
schestowitz-pi2-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- UK's Rishi Sunak questioned at COVID-19 inquiry – DW – 12/11/2023Dec 18 06:24
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Dr. Sunak should ask professor Bill Gates what he said in "tweets" that boost the shares of companies he "invests" in. This is how science is done, babyDec 18 06:24
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  ODROID-M1S review – Part 1: Ubuntu 20.04, V8uS touchscreen display, UPS Kit, and WiFi Module BK5 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/ODROID_M1S_review_Part_1_Ubuntu_20_04_V8uS_touchscreen_display_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/ODROID_M1S_review_Part_1_Ubuntu_20_04_V8uS_touchscreen_display_.gmi ∎Dec 18 06:32
techrights-secThere were some headlines from several countries showing rates of death Dec 18 06:40
techrights-secas high or higher now than at the "peak"Dec 18 06:40
schestowitz-pi2afaik, more died overall at the "peak"Dec 18 06:40
schestowitz-pi2a lot moreDec 18 06:40
schestowitz-pi2but we never recoveredDec 18 06:40
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Supporting Tuxmachines ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Supporting_Tuxmachines.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Supporting_Tuxmachines.gmi ∎Dec 18 07:02
schestowitz-pi2haedsup: we are heading out soon to celebrate my bdayDec 18 07:07
schestowitz-pi2rianne was engaged yesterdayDec 18 07:07
schestowitz-pi2so we could not go outDec 18 07:07
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  GNU/Linux in Islands (It's Looking Positive) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/GNU_Linux_in_Islands_It_s_Looking_Positive.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/GNU_Linux_in_Islands_It_s_Looking_Positive.gmi ∎Dec 18 07:13
techrights-secok, we are also running errands for a few hours today starting in about an Dec 18 07:16
techrights-sechour or soDec 18 07:16
techrights-secwe can look at the AWK-NFT firewall later today as well as the system updateDec 18 07:16
techrights-secHappy birthday (observed) today then,Dec 18 07:16
schestowitz-pi2we also visit 2 or 3 banksDec 18 07:18
schestowitz-pi2while interest is stillDec 18 07:18
schestowitz-pi21) highDec 18 07:18
schestowitz-pi22) you can freeze the rate for _2_ yearsDec 18 07:18
schestowitz-pi2it's good to know we _can_ raise money for the sites and i can _still_ (again) find cheap food if I try hard enough Dec 18 07:18
schestowitz-pi2ryan just bought 10 pounds of coffee, i think inspired by usDec 18 07:19
techrights-secSealed coffee lasts a long time.  Stocking items with long shelf lives isDec 18 07:24
techrights-seca good  way to save money, if one has the space for storage and monitorsDec 18 07:24
techrights-secthe stock rotation properly.  Dec 18 07:24
techrights-secOne item not in the daily links but noteworthy is the spin on the executionDec 18 07:24
techrights-secof the Israeli hostages.  The three were shot on purpose with great care andDec 18 07:24
techrights-secintent, yet all the headlines go on about it being an "accident".  The otherDec 18 07:24
techrights-secweek they also shot an off-duty Isreaeli soldier in much the same way.  TheDec 18 07:24
techrights-secultraorthodox groups steering / influencing the army there are as filled withDec 18 07:24
techrights-sechate and vengance as the moslem groups and aim to escalate as much as they Dec 18 07:24
techrights-seccan get away with.  I can't figure out how all but one of the headlines overDec 18 07:24
techrights-secthe last few days call the intentional execution an "accident".Dec 18 07:24
techrights-secThere's no analysis of that, it's not related enough to TR to cover butDec 18 07:24
techrights-secthe reason for the misleading headlines is *very* puzzling to me.Dec 18 07:24
schestowitz-pi2i would need to check or scrutinise your sources on thisDec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2earlier on i wanted to pass on links to here, but was buffer length-consciousDec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2looking...Dec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2chrights-news> Germany?s Christian Democrats question Islam?s place in society https://www.dw.com/en/germany-s-christian-democrats-question-islam-s-placDec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2e-in-society/a-67702793 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-s-cdu-redefines-stance-on-islam-in-new-manifesto/a-67702793Dec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2-TechPolBot/#techpol- Germany's CDU redefines stance on Islam in new manifesto ? DW ? 12/12/2023Dec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2same articleDec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2notice how they changed the headlineDec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2we already see how it is used as a weaponDec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2not citing muamer [sic] or some crank with a webcamDec 18 07:31
schestowitz-pi2but the national leader of finlandDec 18 07:32
schestowitz-pi2"Germany?s Christian Democrats question Islam?s place in society "Dec 18 07:32
schestowitz-pi2became "Germany's CDU redefines stance on Islam in new manifesto"Dec 18 07:32
schestowitz-pi2so some people complained, maybe not the DW editorDec 18 07:32
schestowitz-pi2in germany, off the record, people tell my dad how much they hate the "asylum seekers"Dec 18 07:32
schestowitz-pi2and how it's unfair they take up national resources Dec 18 07:32
schestowitz-pi2and if they complain, "FAR-RIGHT"Dec 18 07:32
techrights-seccheckingDec 18 07:33
techrights-secProbably imams had their minions complainDec 18 07:33
techrights-secor the tools used in social control media brigaded the paperDec 18 07:33
schestowitz-pi2yes,it is one thing islamists have in common with genderphobesDec 18 07:34
techrights-secNot enough defence resources are focused  on the nature of islam itselfDec 18 07:39
techrights-secIn many cases one can swap out the string Nazi and replace it with Islam Dec 18 07:39
techrights-secand the documents will still hold trueDec 18 07:39
techrights-secTHere has been a disinformation campaign since Khaddaffi (sp?) threatsDec 18 07:39
techrights-secare now relegated to the category 'conspiracy theory'Dec 18 07:39
schestowitz-pi2crank:Dec 18 07:40
schestowitz-pi2https://yle.fi/a/74-20065426Dec 18 07:40
schestowitz-pi2"The two border posts re-opened on Thursday, but the government decided later that day to close them again after it deemed that Russian authorities had Dec 18 07:40
schestowitz-pi2begun once again to systematically deliver third-country asylum [sic] seekers to the Finnish border.Dec 18 07:40
schestowitz-pi2Finnish officials and experts have repeatedly this autumn described Russia?s instrumentalising the flow of migrants as of "hybrid operation" aimed at deDec 18 07:40
schestowitz-pi2stabilising Finland in response to its [NATO] membership and support for Ukraine."Dec 18 07:40
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techrights-sec"alphabet" people are part of the campaign and do not realize how disposableDec 18 07:43
techrights-secislam considers them to be...Dec 18 07:43
techrights-secYes, pumping islamic insurgents across the border is an attack.  That muchDec 18 07:43
techrights-secis being recognized, though due to social control media's promotion  Dec 18 07:43
techrights-secof schismogenesis there will be a bloc of parties which will embrace theDec 18 07:43
techrights-secinsurgents simply because the other 'bloc' has pointed out the war natureDec 18 07:43
techrights-secof the attack.  Dec 18 07:43
schestowitz-pi2https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2023/12/11/green-party-reaction-to-rwanda-plan-vote-cruelty-and-inhumanity-as-a-tool-of-public-policy/Dec 18 07:44
schestowitz-pi2greens pushing my limits tbhDec 18 07:44
schestowitz-pi2people in manchester know the quality [sic] of those peopleDec 18 07:44
schestowitz-pi2we are not able to absorb every person who are persecutedDec 18 07:44
schestowitz-pi2we are a small island Dec 18 07:44
techrights-secGreens have been co-opted by islamists and have nothing to do with environmentDec 18 07:48
techrights-secany more.  I used  to vote green but they havce no qualified candidats any moreDec 18 07:48
techrights-secsince a long time agoDec 18 07:48
techrights-secWhere is the limit?  10M? 100M?  1B?  Dec 18 07:48
techrights-secThe "magic dirt" theory the illegal immigration proponents espouse is flat outDec 18 07:48
techrights-secracists by any metric.  Dec 18 07:49
techrights-secI have to get ready for errands now, will be around for a bit longer but probably must head out at the top of the hour Dec 18 07:49
schestowitz-pi2rma and i are left-leaningDec 18 07:51
schestowitz-pi2but you can push limitsDec 18 07:51
schestowitz-pi2like, one person is one personDec 18 07:51
schestowitz-pi2multiple personality is not a normalDec 18 07:51
schestowitz-pi2immigration is... "OK"Dec 18 07:51
schestowitz-pi2but what kind? "borders" always existedDec 18 07:51
schestowitz-pi2for a villege or tribr Dec 18 07:51
schestowitz-pi2i shall leave you to it, as we too must prepare :-)Dec 18 07:51
techrights-secback in some hoursDec 18 08:01
techrights-newsTechrights – Google Seems to Be Ramping Up Its Attack on Invidious (Free Software, Respect for Privacy) a Week Before Christmas ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Google_Seems_to_Be_Ramping_Up_Its_Attack_on_Invidious_Free_Soft.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Google_Seems_to_Be_Ramping_Up_Its_Attack_on_Invidious_Free_Soft.gmi ∎Dec 18 08:40
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techrights-newsTechrights – Google's YouTube Becomes More Like Microsoft's GitHub: Anything They Don't Control Simply Does Not Exist (or Barely Acknowledged) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Google_s_YouTube_Becomes_More_Like_Microsoft_s_GitHub_Anything_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Google_s_YouTube_Becomes_More_Like_Microsoft_s_GitHub_Anything_.gmi ∎Dec 18 10:25
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  One More Week ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/One_More_Week.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/One_More_Week.gmi ∎Dec 18 10:55
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techrights-secbackDec 18 15:34
techrights-secpatent damage: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/12/16/0333224#1336864Dec 18 15:34
techrights-secgotta rest a bit before finishing links, maybe more coffee is in orderDec 18 15:34
schestowitz-pi2backDec 18 15:37
schestowitz-pi2checking thingsDec 18 15:37
schestowitz-pi2patentrs were part of fake growth and fictional "value" based on "protflio" of "IP"Dec 18 15:37
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MinceR18 084859 < techrights-sec> Greens have been co-opted by islamists and have nothing to do with environmentDec 18 21:06
MinceRin orbanistan, they were co-opted by christian fundamentalistsDec 18 21:06
techrights-secrouter maint eta 30 min Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  ext4 data corruption in 6.1 stable tree ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/10/ext4_data_corruption_in_6_1_stable_tree.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/10/ext4_data_corruption_in_6_1_stable_tree.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Manjaro 23.1 β€œVulcan” Is Available for Download with GNOME 45, Linux 6.6 LTS ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/15/Manjaro_23_1_Vulcan_Is_Available_for_Download_with_GNOME_45_Lin.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/15/Manjaro_23_1_Vulcan_Is_Available_for_Download_with_GNOME_45_Lin.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: December 17th, 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_December_17th_2023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_December_17th_2023.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Android_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Difference Between Arch Linux and Manjaro ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Difference_Between_Arch_Linux_and_Manjaro.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Difference_Between_Arch_Linux_and_Manjaro.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  KDE vs Gnome: Which Desktop Environment Is Right for You ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/KDE_vs_Gnome_Which_Desktop_Environment_Is_Right_for_You.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/KDE_vs_Gnome_Which_Desktop_Environment_Is_Right_for_You.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Mozilla Firefox 121 Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Mozilla_Firefox_121_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Mozilla_Firefox_121_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Scripting on Linux with Garrett Wilke ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Scripting_on_Linux_with_Garrett_Wilke.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/Scripting_on_Linux_with_Garrett_Wilke.gmi ∎Dec 18 21:19
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techrights-secbackDec 18 21:44
techrights-secminor electical work completed here too, it was a PITA but probably savedDec 18 21:44
techrights-sechundreds of EURDec 18 21:44
techrights-secThe components I replaced had even been wired incorrectly.  That has beenDec 18 21:44
techrights-secfixed in the process now.  Unlike whoever did it before, I looked up the Dec 18 21:44
techrights-secspecs and wired it to spec.Dec 18 21:44
techrights-secLinks posted, sorry for the delay.Dec 18 21:44
techrights-secThere are too many wiring shortcuts around here.  I lack the certification Dec 18 21:44
techrights-secto legally fix them all, but hope to hire someone official soon, maybe   Dec 18 21:44
techrights-secwithin a year or two.   I'd really like to pull the landlines, which are Dec 18 21:44
techrights-secdefunct, and replace them with CAT6 or something.  The phone company stoppedDec 18 21:44
techrights-secour landline service so the conduits are going to waste and could be put to  Dec 18 21:44
techrights-secgood use serving Ethernet instead.  Dec 18 21:44
schestowitz-pi2this past sunday i took tools and also inner tube for my bikeDec 18 22:32
schestowitz-pi2i want to learn how to mend/repair thingsDec 18 22:32
schestowitz-pi2it is otherwise a ripoff industryDec 18 22:32
schestowitz-pi2charging 60 eur or more for 5-minute jobsDec 18 22:32
schestowitz-pi2[21:06] <MinceR> in orbanistan, they were co-opted by christian fundamentalistsDec 18 22:33
schestowitz-pi2green alliance with fideath?Dec 18 22:33
MinceRsomething like that, yesDec 18 22:33
MinceRfirst there was LMP, then it split into LMP and PM because the people who remained in LMP didn't want to ally with opposition partiesDec 18 22:33
MinceRthen LMP did a lot of things to help fideath outDec 18 22:33
MinceRthe most visible member of PM is gergely karacsony, who is the mayor of budapest and likes to post in favor of the roman catholic cult on faecesbook under his nameDec 18 22:34
MinceRhe recently defended the firing of an employee of the local government of budapest for posting in opposition to religion on faecesbook under his nameDec 18 22:35
MinceRso, gergely karacsony is a christian fundamentalist who abuses the power granted to him by the state to silence critics of his favorite cultDec 18 22:35
MinceRand the PM has no problem with thisDec 18 22:35
MinceRand neither do the other allies of PM, who also like to pretend to be "opposition"Dec 18 22:36
MinceRso now we have 2 "green" parties that are more orange than greenDec 18 22:36
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schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> "monitor migrants, asylum seekers, and others moving across borders" β˜› https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/eff-joins-forces-20-organizations-coalition-migrarsinvigilancia | Source: EFFDec 18 22:52
schestowitz-pi2MinceR: that's no good, it's a bit different hereDec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2i used to be mates with the head of the pirate party hereDec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2he lived not far from meDec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2and we'd chat in the streetDec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2they vanishedDec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2he had also gone on RT a few timesDec 18 22:54
MinceRone or both of LMP and PM also tried to claim at some point that they were also the pirate party :)Dec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2that can't help muchDec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2the greens here are... only in name, it seemsDec 18 22:54
schestowitz-pi2MinceR: maybe riding the brandDec 18 22:55
schestowitz-pi2what are their policies?/Dec 18 22:55
schestowitz-pi2re patents, copyrights...Dec 18 22:55
schestowitz-pi2maybe nothing at allDec 18 22:55
schestowitz-pi2unknown, unspecifiedDec 18 22:55
MinceRi forgotDec 18 22:55
MinceRi don't think they particularly cared about patents or copyrightsDec 18 22:56
schestowitz-pi2many leave grey areasDec 18 22:57
schestowitz-pi2and unknownDec 18 22:57
schestowitz-pi2so you don't know till the vote comesDec 18 22:57
schestowitz-pi2then you realise why they said nothingDec 18 22:57
schestowitz-pi2rianne can now vote in national electionsDec 18 22:58
MinceRPM also put gender quotas into their program, so left-wingnuttery meets right-wingnuttery thereDec 18 22:58
MinceRi don't know if LMP did because at that point i was already uninterested in themDec 18 22:58
schestowitz-pi2when you say quotas,Dec 18 22:58
schestowitz-pi2do you mean, x% must be women?Dec 18 22:59
schestowitz-pi2because it sounds P-CDec 18 22:59
schestowitz-pi2but in practice, there are perilsDec 18 22:59
MinceRyesDec 18 23:01
MinceRit's utterly idioticDec 18 23:01
schestowitz-pi2like, they settle for lower standardsDec 18 23:01
schestowitz-pi2"how did she get this role?"Dec 18 23:01
schestowitz-pi2"oh, they needed a woman for this"Dec 18 23:01
MinceRthose women would never be able to get rid of the stigma that they were only there to fill a quotaDec 18 23:01
schestowitz-pi2"it was reserved"Dec 18 23:01
MinceRi'm sure that would be great for equalityDec 18 23:01
schestowitz-pi2"and she was the only female candidate'Dec 18 23:01
schestowitz-pi2even rianne opposes thisDec 18 23:02
schestowitz-pi2because it contributes to what she saw in siriusDec 18 23:02
schestowitz-pi2women who sleep with people... getting a jobDec 18 23:02
schestowitz-pi2and not knowing anything about itDec 18 23:02
schestowitz-pi2IRDec 18 23:02
schestowitz-pi2*ITDec 18 23:02
schestowitz-pi2let alone UNIX/LinuxDec 18 23:02
schestowitz-pi2the company may look diverseDec 18 23:03
schestowitz-pi2but it won't give you good serviceDec 18 23:03
schestowitz-pi2as many staff cannot fix your issuesDec 18 23:03
schestowitz-pi2so what gives?Dec 18 23:03
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techrights-newsTechrights – Bill Gates Likely Used Jeffrey Epstein for Access to Young Women/Girls ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Bill_Gates_Likely_Used_Jeffrey_Epstein_for_Access_to_Young_Wome.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/18/Bill_Gates_Likely_Used_Jeffrey_Epstein_for_Access_to_Young_Wome.gmi ∎Dec 18 23:23
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Kubernetes v1.29: Mandala ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/14/Kubernetes_v1_29_Mandala.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/14/Kubernetes_v1_29_Mandala.gmi ∎Dec 18 23:37
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