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techrights[sec]_As for how the FSF could focus its efforts, by hiring lobbyists, theMay 22 00:57
techrights[sec]_"public money, public code" could be made into law if it isn't alread.May 22 00:57
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schestowitz-pi2good point, yes, that was a good campaign ideaMay 22 01:48
schestowitz-pi2btw, i was just thinking, it doesn't matter the salary, any job would takeMay 22 01:48
schestowitz-pi2away time from site activities, so i will do TR 100% for years to comeMay 22 01:48
schestowitz-pi2catching up with missed links, will think of ways to automate whatMay 22 01:48
schestowitz-pi2can emulate what's done manually atmMay 22 01:48
schestowitz-pi2i am going through about 4000 lines of links, i'm sure I can filter some moreMay 22 01:48
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mib_lnfom7Why is the website no longer optimized for mobile? I like browsing on my phone while on smoke break and sending interesting links to my PC.May 22 02:12
schestowitzhiMay 22 02:12
schestowitzwhat changes to make?May 22 02:12
schestowitzwe can make changesMay 22 02:12
mib_lnfom7The website was mobile friendly recently, but then suddenly it no longer wasMay 22 02:12
schestowitzwhen did that change?May 22 02:13
schestowitzwe changed cms in august last yearMay 22 02:13
mib_lnfom7I don't remember exactly, maybe in the last few weeksMay 22 02:13
schestowitznews.tuxmachines.org?May 22 02:13
mib_lnfom7YesMay 22 02:14
schestowitzcan you send a screenshot?May 22 02:14
schestowitzwe made no changes to our CMSMay 22 02:14
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/index/mobile/May 22 02:14
mib_lnfom7I'm referring to article pages. I subscribe to the RSS feed in Inoreader and click links from thereMay 22 02:16
schestowitzi seeMay 22 02:16
schestowitzlet me try a narrow screen on a paggeMay 22 02:16
schestowitzcan you send us a screenshot of what you get?May 22 02:17
schestowitzthe CMS is hand-craftedMay 22 02:17
schestowitzso we can change itMay 22 02:17
mib_lnfom7I'm using the little embedded Mibbit on your website, how shall I share a screenshot? Image hosting service?May 22 02:17
schestowitzyesMay 22 02:17
schestowitzpost the link to the imageMay 22 02:17
mib_lnfom7Self-destructs in one hour: https://ibb.co/QDy9VvHMay 22 02:19
*schestowitz checkingMay 22 02:19
schestowitzI seeMay 22 02:19
schestowitzhow would you prefer it to show?May 22 02:20
mib_lnfom7I would like to be able to read the article titles without having to zoom in. I'm not a web developer, so I don't know how it was before or anything about itMay 22 02:21
schestowitzwe can change the css to make fonts biggerMay 22 02:21
schestowitzjust the articl etitles?May 22 02:21
mib_lnfom7Aha! It looks fine in Firefox, but Chrome and Vivaldi look like the screenshot I shared above. Screenshot with Firefox: https://ibb.co/TkTkm9r May 22 02:24
*schestowitz checkingMay 22 02:24
mib_lnfom7It must have been a recent upstream Chromium update since it happens in Chrome and VivaldiMay 22 02:24
schestowitzdo you want us to make changes?May 22 02:25
schestowitzi can push via git now May 22 02:25
mib_lnfom7You know what's causing it?May 22 02:25
schestowitzvivaldi is based on chromiumMay 22 02:25
mib_lnfom7Yes, I know. I just said thatMay 22 02:26
schestowitzahaMay 22 02:26
schestowitzif you can suggest the change, in css, i can push itMay 22 02:26
mib_lnfom7I don't know CSS, unfortunately. May 22 02:27
schestowitzso what you say is, chromium-based browsers have small fonts?May 22 02:27
schestowitzand zooming in does not help much?May 22 02:28
schestowitzin recent rendering engine versions?May 22 02:28
mib_lnfom7Not really, because then I can only read a few words at a time and have to scroll back and forth to read one sentenceMay 22 02:28
schestowitzi seeMay 22 02:28
schestowitzlet me pass it to a friend who can also assess the situationMay 22 02:28
schestowitzand maybe we'll change for the latest adaptations at Google(R)May 22 02:29
schestowitzGoogle is not predictableMay 22 02:29
schestowitzthey change many things and even plan to break http, self-signed certs etc.May 22 02:29
schestowitzthey 'own' the wwwMay 22 02:29
mib_lnfom7Okay, thanks. For now I can open the links in Firefox, I guessMay 22 02:30
schestowitznpMay 22 02:30
mib_lnfom7Well, save those screenshots if needed since they'll self-destruct in just under an hourMay 22 02:31
schestowitzi didMay 22 02:31
mib_lnfom7I'm going to close this out now, thanks. If I return, I'll use my usual username, markdubya. I forgot to change the default auto-generated one when I logged in May 22 02:33
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎May 22 02:34
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux 6.4-rc3 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Linux_6_4_rc3.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Linux_6_4_rc3.gmi ∎May 22 02:58
schestowitz-pi2<XRevan86> https://bcow.xyz/posts/archiving-librarian/May 22 03:07
schestowitz-pi2-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- bcow.xyzMay 22 03:07
schestowitz-pi2<XRevan86> > Librarian will no longer be maintainedMay 22 03:07
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> 0/May 22 03:07
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎May 22 03:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): diffutils-3.10 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/diffutils_3_10_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/diffutils_3_10_released.gmi ∎May 22 03:20
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Kiwi TCMS 12.3 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Kiwi_TCMS_12_3.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Kiwi_TCMS_12_3.gmi ∎May 22 03:23
techrights-newsFacebook https://www.engadget.com/meta-fixed-a-facebook-bug-that-sent-automatic-friend-requests-to-users-194753983.htmlMay 22 03:47
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): The Free Way To Speed Up An Old Apple Mac ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/The_Free_Way_To_Speed_Up_An_Old_Apple_Mac.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/The_Free_Way_To_Speed_Up_An_Old_Apple_Mac.gmi ∎May 22 03:59
schestowitz"What’s more, it offers small amounts of high-quality protein." https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/buckwheat#nutrientsMay 22 04:09
schestowitz-pi2Drop in cancer diagnoses in 2020 possibly linked to COVID-19 disruptions: Statistics Canada https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-cancer-diagnosis-2020-covid-19-statistics-canada-1.6846564May 22 04:23
techrights-newsAmazon cuts jobs in India: Microsoft, Google and other tech MNCs that have or may cut jobs https://www.gadgetsnow.com/slideshows/amazon-cuts-jobs-in-india-microsoft-google-and-other-tech-mncs-that-have-or-may-cut-jobs/photolist/100406047.cmsMay 22 04:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎May 22 04:46
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Review: UBports 20.04 on PinePhone ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Review_UBports_20_04_on_PinePhone.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Review_UBports_20_04_on_PinePhone.gmi ∎May 22 05:24
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Exploring Linux Advancements: GSoC 2023 Showcases Promising Projects ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Exploring_Linux_Advancements_GSoC_2023_Showcases_Promising_Proj.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Exploring_Linux_Advancements_GSoC_2023_Showcases_Promising_Proj.gmi ∎May 22 05:31
techrights[sec]_Links are not actually that useful, the value of TR is in the original postsMay 22 06:00
techrights[sec]_especially regarding fighting sw patentsMay 22 06:00
schestowitz-pi2yes, but this does require research and understandingMay 22 06:01
schestowitz-pi2ratio of 1:10May 22 06:01
schestowitz-pi21 writingMay 22 06:01
schestowitz-pi210 reading, learningMay 22 06:01
schestowitz-pi2spewing out text can be done by botsMay 22 06:01
schestowitz-pi2(case of point: phoronix; catching up or keeping up with quota like 10 May 22 06:05
schestowitz-pi2a day, some is trash about single line of code or blurb around a githubMay 22 06:05
schestowitz-pi2URL)May 22 06:05
techrights[sec]_How can the FSF be contacted and encouraged to come up with a plan about May 22 06:06
techrights[sec]_where to focus lobbying efforts to get "public money, public code" enactedMay 22 06:06
techrights[sec]_at the federal level?May 22 06:06
schestowitz-pi2i spoke to fsf hours agoMay 22 06:06
schestowitz-pi2or gnu ratherMay 22 06:06
schestowitz-pi2see techbytes channel tomorrowMay 22 06:06
techrights[sec]_ExcellentMay 22 06:08
techrights[sec]_I'll forget by then.  :/May 22 06:08
techrights[sec]_They could probably get some advice directly or indirectly from Louis Rossmann'sMay 22 06:08
techrights[sec]_recent efforts in regards to lobbying at the state level.  But I (in my unexpertMay 22 06:08
techrights[sec]_opinion) think that the FSF needs to aim at the federal level since so muchMay 22 06:08
techrights[sec]_procurement happens at that level and must also match federal guidelines evenMay 22 06:08
techrights[sec]_when done by individual states.May 22 06:09
schestowitz-pi2might contact my mp soonMay 22 06:10
schestowitz-pi2regarding police/action fraud, maybe hmrc tooMay 22 06:10
schestowitz-pi2depending on outcome at the latterMay 22 06:10
schestowitz-pi2before ombudsMay 22 06:10
schestowitz-pi2maybe i can also mention freesw is a bond is madeMay 22 06:10
schestowitz-pi2our local MPs only care if THEY have something to gain from itMay 22 06:10
schestowitz-pi2daily links are valuable for tuxmachinesMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2not just TRMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2there's a mutual connectionMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2android at TR is 100% rianneMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2aside from that, there are other information flowsMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2so TR is filter/curator of sortsMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2social media [sic] is rotting anywayMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2it's very low yield/rioMay 22 06:13
schestowitz-pi2*roiMay 22 06:13
techrights[sec]_Speaking of Android, I just saw the e-mail and have no idea what chrome on May 22 06:13
techrights[sec]_the phone is doing to the layout.  I have no "smart" phone to test on.  ThereMay 22 06:13
techrights[sec]_might be an emulator somewhere.May 22 06:13
techrights[sec]_ Chromium has a pre-view to constraint May 22 06:14
techrights[sec]_screen size, but news.tuxmachines.org looks line there.  May 22 06:14
schestowitz-pi2i'd be hesistant to make any changes based on one person's experience May 22 06:15
schestowitz-pi2there need to be strong justificationMay 22 06:15
schestowitz-pi2as any change disrupts workflow and habitsMay 22 06:15
techrights[sec]_ Without even a screenshot to lookMay 22 06:17
techrights[sec]_ at there is not even a guess at what to look at.  May 22 06:17
techrights[sec]_No changes yet but one report would make it appropriate to look into, but againMay 22 06:17
techrights[sec]_I have no mobile phone for that and am not going to go get one since theyMay 22 06:17
techrights[sec]_are such a liability and ongoing time sink and continuous expenseMay 22 06:17
techrights[sec]_Meta    05/22 21:00     SoylentNews Site Shutdown       NCommanderMay 22 06:17
techrights[sec]_(the story is back in the queue again :(  May 22 06:17
schestowitz-pi2tuxmachines has an android "app"May 22 06:19
schestowitz-pi2but maybe way out of date by nowMay 22 06:19
schestowitz-pi2we must learn this carefully May 22 06:19
schestowitz-pi2i did not read, but many lessons to be  learnedMay 22 06:19
schestowitz-pi2to avoid this happening to usMay 22 06:19
schestowitz-pi2we know who stands to benefit from all those pages, comments, usersMay 22 06:19
schestowitz-pi2going to /dev/nul/May 22 06:19
techrights[sec]_It is primarily excessive complexity in the software which has killed the siteMay 22 06:21
techrights[sec]_It was written at the height of the fashion to make code as "clever" and May 22 06:21
techrights[sec]_abstract and complicated as one individual could manage.  Not unlike systemd.May 22 06:21
techrights[sec]_It's well-written, mostly, but an effort was made to avoid readability andMay 22 06:21
techrights[sec]_instead show off "cleverness"  May 22 06:21
schestowitz-pi2they should hand over to someone elseMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2archive all old pages as staticMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2start with simpler cmsMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2that's what TM didMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2btw, this is what killed joindiasporaMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2complex software and too many 'hacks' bolted onto it to keep is from crashingMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2based on core devs who looked at the codebase and hacks on topMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2so they tossed it all under the bussMay 22 06:22
schestowitz-pi2never delivered the migrators they had promisedMay 22 06:22
techrights[sec]_yes, the same that killed off slashdot in the first place and those that pre-May 22 06:24
techrights[sec]_emptively turned HN and Redddddddit to heavily censored trash.  May 22 06:24
techrights[sec]_It's not a matter of handing over to someone else, there is noone else.May 22 06:24
techrights[sec]_As for the complexity, their CMS even uses Kerberos May 22 06:24
techrights[sec]_If I were more healthy I could write a replacement in about a month to month andMay 22 06:24
techrights[sec]_a half, but my arm and neck feels like it has nails pounded into both.  All timeMay 22 06:24
techrights[sec]_in front of the screen should be avoided.  May 22 06:24
schestowitz-pi2can you scrape the site while it         May 22 06:25
schestowitz-pi2is online and can the licence permit mirroring?May 22 06:25
schestowitz-pi2as all these sites go offline for good i find that TM and TR becomeMay 22 06:25
schestowitz-pi2more prominent in *unix related topicsMay 22 06:25
schestowitz-pi2finding them among search results when i look for something elseMay 22 06:25
techrights[sec]_It could be scraped, but that would be better for IA to do that.  However,May 22 06:27
techrights[sec]_there are some settings for the GET URLs which ought to haveMay 22 06:27
techrights[sec]_&amp;threshold=0&amp;highlightthresh=2&amp;commentsort=0&amp;mode=threadtngMay 22 06:27
techrights[sec]_s/thresh=2/thresh=1/May 22 06:27
techrights[sec]_to avoid the severely truncated situation that Groklaw ended up in.  May 22 06:27
techrights[sec]_TM and TR offer no discussion capabilities.  May 22 06:27
schestowitz-pi2discussion = liabilityMay 22 06:27
schestowitz-pi2and time spentMay 22 06:27
techrights[sec]_Yes, but SN is no about a list of links, not even about links in a timely mannerMay 22 06:27
techrights[sec]_It is about community discussion and has been since day one.  May 22 06:27
schestowitz-pi2if it does have a shutdown date set, and no recure plan, we can set upMay 22 06:29
schestowitz-pi2a mirror, i hope May 22 06:29
schestowitz-pi2with  params set to grab _all_ comments tooMay 22 06:29
schestowitz-pi2it would be a public service, preservation-wiseMay 22 06:29
schestowitz-pi2like PatentTrollTrackerMay 22 06:29
techrights[sec]_+No idea; you have the heading of the queued post above which is as much as I knowMay 22 06:33
techrights[sec]_as well.   May 22 06:33
techrights[sec]_To grab /all/ comments then s/thresh=2/thresh=0/ or even -1 but that would be May 22 06:33
techrights[sec]_a waste IMHO.  Just a sec.  May 22 06:33
techrights[sec]_All comments are there regardless, just folded at the threshold but stillMay 22 06:33
techrights[sec]_available.  May 22 06:33
schestowitz-pi2that's great newsMay 22 06:33
techrights[sec]_IA is now a javascript app not a web site any moreMay 22 06:37
schestowitz-pi2sometimes js is intentional as a spider condom or bot condomMay 22 06:37
schestowitz-pi2sad, but i saw it firsthandMay 22 06:37
schestowitz-pi2one site, iranwiran, eventually realised this mistakeMay 22 06:37
schestowitz-pi2and moved to drupalMay 22 06:38
schestowitz-pi2of course with aws and clownflare, which is a self-inflicted woundMay 22 06:38
schestowitz-pi2they had trust in meMay 22 06:38
schestowitz-pi2but he clownheads had more swayMay 22 06:38
schestowitz-pi2i did prevent some clients moving to "clown"May 22 06:38
schestowitz-pi2lessons fro0m SN:May 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2keep it simple, kissMay 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2do not over-expand, it'll be harder in 10 years, don't look 10 days aheadMay 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2moderation is a choreMay 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2budget aspectsMay 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2slow paceMay 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2backups (they lost a week's worth last year)May 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2test the backups (i last did fs backup last night)May 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2the fs contains db dumps in it, tooMay 22 06:41
schestowitz-pi2anything else?May 22 06:41
techrights[sec]_Yes, if you or Rianne could point me to /node examples on tm-old which areMay 22 06:46
techrights[sec]_multi-page that would be a very, very big help.  May 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2btw, phoronix turns 19 next week, then tmMay 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2we go cycling in a few hoursMay 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2as for tm, simplest transition is,May 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2make strict rule for, ^node/number/May 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2and point to mirror, staticMay 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2anything else, for now, can be served with backendMay 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2but the url should stay the same, and domain tooMay 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2to avoid penaltiesMay 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2let me check the patter of requests nowMay 22 06:46
schestowitz-pi2based on latest logs, can add ?quicktabs* on node May 22 06:52
schestowitz-pi2the stuff after that impacts what tabs are expandedMay 22 06:52
schestowitz-pi2but nothing special there, can be foldens onto just the nodeMay 22 06:52
schestowitz-pi2in latest 10k requests 5.4k are "node"May 22 06:52
schestowitz-pi2in latest 100k, 57.4kMay 22 06:52
schestowitz-pi2so majority of requests can be funneled to static pages, I thinkMay 22 06:52
techrights[sec]_I'm not worried about that, I am working to archive multi-page nodes if I can  May 22 06:53
techrights[sec]_find an example within the next day or so.  Othwewise it is fine to delete the  May 22 06:53
techrights[sec]_extra pages.May 22 06:53
schestowitz-pi2http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122May 22 07:00
schestowitz-pi2multi page for comments:May 22 07:00
schestowitz-pi2or maybe not, depends on cookiesMay 22 07:00
schestowitz-pi2check reviews section May 22 07:00
schestowitz-pi2many multi-page articlews thereMay 22 07:00
techrights[sec]_128122 seems to be all one page May 22 07:16
schestowitz-pi2i see, well spottedMay 22 07:24
schestowitz-pi250% or more of the traffic can be funnelled to static just fineMay 22 07:24
schestowitz-pi2reducing cpu/ram strainMay 22 07:24
schestowitz-pi2one upside of hey hi hype is,May 22 07:35
schestowitz-pi2it helps raise awareness around the ethics of tech "advancement"May 22 07:35
schestowitz-pi2btw, on sunday tm-old served about 175k reqsMay 22 07:35
schestowitz-pi2not bad for a site left behind about a year agoMay 22 07:35
schestowitz-pi2a 'dissent culture' against whatever you call "tech giants"May 22 07:35
schestowitz-pi2would do us goodMay 22 07:35
techrights-newsSPAM page, new page, likely computer-generated garbage: "Such a backdrop does not prevent companies in the sector from being expanding your templateseven betting decisively on the teleworking modality." https://www.ruetir.com/2023/05/i-work-100-remotely-and-with-salaries-of-up-to-150000-euros-a-year-these-companies-are-looking-for-developers/ notice the bad textMay 22 07:39
techrights[sec]_Are there /any/ nodes on tm-old which are multi-page?May 22 07:43
schestowitz-pi2i cannot find any right now, wonder if ages ago i changed settings to showMay 22 07:43
schestowitz-pi2all pages in one May 22 07:43
techrights[sec]_No idea.  I'll look at the gallery then tomorrow.      May 22 07:53
schestowitz-pi2leaving home soon, sunny alreadyMay 22 07:53
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Recent Releases of GNU/Linux: Deepin OS, Tails, and Rocky Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Recent_Releases_of_GNU_Linux_Deepin_OS_Tails_and_Rocky_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Recent_Releases_of_GNU_Linux_Deepin_OS_Tails_and_Rocky_Linux.gmi ∎May 22 07:57
techrights-newsThis Lawsuit Could Change How the Forest Service Fights Wildfires https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2023/05/california-wildfire-retardant-toxic-to-fish/674051/May 22 08:07
techrights-newsGemini Links 22/05/2023: Titan Uploads and INN | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/titan-uploads-and-inn/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/titan-uploads-and-inn/May 22 08:20
schestowitz-pi2leaving 5 minsMay 22 08:22
schestowitz-pi2one day when www is deadMay 22 08:22
schestowitz-pi2we'll have transitioned a lot of info to other protocolsMay 22 08:22
schestowitz-pi2carrying them forwardMay 22 08:22
schestowitz-pi2blMay 22 08:22
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techrights-newsLinks 22/05/2023: GNU Diffutils 3.10 and TCMS 12.3 | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/tcms-12-3/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/tcms-12-3/May 22 08:24
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techrights[sec]_Are there /any/ nodes on tm-old which are multi-page?May 22 11:17
techrights[sec]_No idea.  I'll look at the gallery then tomorrow.      May 22 11:17
techrights[sec]_tr-old seems unreachable via HTTP/HTTPSMay 22 11:17
techrights[sec]_9:30 amMay 22 11:17
techrights[sec]_back now: 10:20May 22 11:17
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 21, 2023 | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/irc-log-210523/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/irc-log-210523/May 22 11:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: May 21st, 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_May_21st_2023.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_May_21st_2023.gmi ∎May 22 11:17
schestowitz-pi2backMay 22 11:18
schestowitz-pi2echkingMay 22 11:18
schestowitz-pi2site detected as down 9:30May 22 11:28
schestowitz-pi2back 10:15 or earlierMay 22 11:28
schestowitz-pi2not sure why, was afwMay 22 11:28
schestowitz-pi2did you restart httpd?May 22 11:28
techrights[sec]_yes the second restart of httpd seems to have restored access  May 22 11:35
schestowitz-pi2fantastic! thanks!May 22 11:35
schestowitz-pi2we got 3 kg of fresh grapes and about 4 kg of applesMay 22 11:35
schestowitz-pi2good priceMay 22 11:35
schestowitz-pi2that completes the weight-losing diet for 5 weeks rianne is awayMay 22 11:35
schestowitz-pi2i always lose KGs when she is awayMay 22 11:35
schestowitz-pi2she leaves thurs, i will accompany her as the suitcase is 32kgMay 22 11:35
techrights[sec]_Is that over the limit?  It might be cheaper / allowed to have 2x 16kg instead.May 22 11:35
schestowitz-pi232kg is ok for the intl flightMay 22 11:36
schestowitz-pi2she will be posting to TM from laptop and be in mumble and IRC (TM channel)May 22 11:42
schestowitz-pi2even in airports if power/conn availableMay 22 11:42
techrights[sec]_Last I checked the limit here was 22kg.  I hope I don't have to fly any more.  May 22 11:59
schestowitz-pi2even western and even third-world country prisons you can lie down supineMay 22 12:02
schestowitz-pi2and no babies crying around you ^_^May 22 12:02
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Pgpool-II 4.4.3, 4.3.6, 4.2.13, 4.1.16 and 4.0.23 released. ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Pgpool_II_4_4_3_4_3_6_4_2_13_4_1_16_and_4_0_23_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Pgpool_II_4_4_3_4_3_6_4_2_13_4_1_16_and_4_0_23_released.gmi ∎May 22 12:20
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎May 22 12:21
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Devices: EuroPC, Raspberry Pi, Android, and GNU-like Mobile Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Devices_EuroPC_Raspberry_Pi_Android_and_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Devices_EuroPC_Raspberry_Pi_Android_and_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux.gmi ∎May 22 13:08
techrights[sec]_Meta    05/22 21:27     The Future      janrinokMay 22 13:11
techrights[sec]_^ another in the queueMay 22 13:11
schestowitz-pi2i hope someone will take overMay 22 13:12
schestowitz-pi2and keep it onlineMay 22 13:12
schestowitz-pi2if IAM is done by kerberosMay 22 13:13
schestowitz-pi2and if the old material can be archived as staticMay 22 13:13
schestowitz-pi2they can retain old username and start with a simpler systemMay 22 13:13
schestowitz-pi2but same communityMay 22 13:13
techrights[sec]_I hope so, what is really needed though is a *serious* refactoringMay 22 13:14
techrights[sec]_That might be less of a challenge than trying to keep the old code afloat.May 22 13:14
techrights[sec]_The old material can be made static, if I understand correctly that is partMay 22 13:14
techrights[sec]_of the workflow already since the beginning.May 22 13:14
schestowitz-pi2site's hierarchy of needsMay 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2domainMay 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2community   May 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2contentMay 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2domain as in identity/dnsMay 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2and audienceMay 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2retaining the legacy of people's contributionsMay 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2the "home" can be changed provided you move all the things and peopleMay 22 13:15
schestowitz-pi2as happened with TMMay 22 13:16
schestowitz-pi2just got epo materialMay 22 13:29
schestowitz-pi2been quiet latelyMay 22 13:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Android_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎May 22 13:33
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: Free Software Security Podcast, GNU World Order, and Dedication to Jim Kloss ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Audiocasts_Shows_Free_Software_Security_Podcast_GNU_World_Order.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Audiocasts_Shows_Free_Software_Security_Podcast_GNU_World_Order.gmi ∎May 22 13:54
techrights-newsMicrosoft Layoffs Still Ongoing This Week in Nuance Communications | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/nuance-communications-layoffs/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/nuance-communications-layoffs/May 22 13:58
schestowitz-pi2added update on msft layoffsMay 22 14:02
schestowitz-pi2doing 8 pages of epo nowMay 22 14:02
schestowitz-pi2then daily links etcMay 22 14:02
techrights[sec]_What's the running total in terms of rounds of layoffs and total staff?May 22 14:04
techrights[sec]_Is there a count to-date at all?  May 22 14:04
schestowitz-pi2only msft hr knowsMay 22 14:04
techrights-newsComments on the European Patent Office’s Strategic Plan to Survive Another 5 Years | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/epo-strategic-plan-sp2028/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/epo-strategic-plan-sp2028/May 22 14:51
techrights-news[Meme] Captain AntΓ³nio’s Strategic Plan SP2028 | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/epo-strategic-plan-sp2028-meme/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/epo-strategic-plan-sp2028-meme/May 22 15:04
techrights-newsHolding Criminals Accountable β€” Part VIII β€” Lots More to Come After Police Inaction | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/sirius-after-police-inaction/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/sirius-after-police-inaction/May 22 15:39
schestowitz-pi2tr backup completedMay 22 15:39
schestowitz-pi2next: bubi (tonight)May 22 15:39
techrights[sec]_How big a chance is there that the European Patent Office will now be forced toMay 22 15:40
techrights[sec]_comply with the legal obligations presented by the European Patent Conevntion?May 22 15:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎May 22 15:53
schestowitz-pi2will ec/eu focrce it with upc? naaa, fat chance...May 22 15:54
schestowitz-pi2notes for sirius:May 22 15:54
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): pgmetrics 1.15 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/pgmetrics_1_15_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/pgmetrics_1_15_released.gmi ∎May 22 16:17
schestowitz-pi2my MP might do nothing. If so, that too is noteworthyMay 22 16:54
techrights[sec]_pongMay 22 16:55
techrights[sec]_The 'My "pension"' sentence might lead with the fact that the company withdrewMay 22 16:55
techrights[sec]_money from your paycheck under the pretence of contributing to the fund but May 22 16:55
techrights[sec]_]nevery actually did so.  The current wording could be made more clear.  May 22 16:55
schestowitz-pi2thanks!May 22 16:55
techrights[sec]_ As for May 22 16:55
techrights[sec]_turning away victims ensure that it is clear tthat there are many of yourMay 22 16:55
techrights[sec]_former colleagues in the mess as well.May 22 16:55
techrights[sec]_The closing line is quite clear, which is important.  May 22 16:56
schestowitz-pi2if she does not respond, i will move to the next, as I did with EPO and MEPsMay 22 17:01
schestowitz-pi2not mass mailing, 2 or 3 maxMay 22 17:01
techrights[sec]_I would suspect that this kind of ripoff or scam is very common nowadaysMay 22 17:02
techrights[sec]_and it is a matter of finding the currently hidden channels for dealingMay 22 17:02
techrights[sec]_with pension scams.  May 22 17:02
schestowitz-pi2thanks!May 22 17:02
techrights[sec]_https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=23/05/20/0343254May 22 17:10
techrights[sec]_:(May 22 17:10
schestowitz-pi2start scrapingMay 22 17:12
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎May 22 17:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎May 22 17:35
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎May 22 17:35
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Programming and Standards ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Programming_and_Standards.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Programming_and_Standards.gmi ∎May 22 17:36
schestowitz-pi2if you scrape, set sleep/timerMay 22 17:36
schestowitz-pi2to avoid getting blockedMay 22 17:36
schestowitz-pi2we almost did that with Linux JournalMay 22 17:36
schestowitz-pi2it got rescued a few timesMay 22 17:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Steam Deck Games, Language Choice in initrd, SoylentNews Site Shutdown ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Steam_Deck_Games_Language_Choice_in_initrd_SoylentNews_Site_Shu.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Steam_Deck_Games_Language_Choice_in_initrd_SoylentNews_Site_Shu.gmi ∎May 22 17:36
techrights-newshttp://techrights.org/2023/05/22/smolver-security-hole-fixed/May 22 17:42
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎May 22 17:42
techrights-newsGemini Links 22/05/2023: Smolver Security Hole Fixed | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/smolver-security-hole-fixed/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/smolver-security-hole-fixed/May 22 17:43
techrights-newsLinks 22/05/2023: SoylentNews Site to Shut Down and New Releases of Pgpool-II Now Available | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/soylentnews-site-to-shut-down/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/soylentnews-site-to-shut-down/May 22 17:47
techrights[sec]_It involves processing javascripts so there is no way to do it in an automatedMay 22 18:04
techrights[sec]_manner that I know of and doing it manually is a MONUMENTAL expendeture of timeMay 22 18:04
techrights[sec]_e.g. it took 30 minutes to archive 15 pagesMay 22 18:04
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/22/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎May 22 18:16
schestowitz-pi2<XRevan86> https://wsj.com/articles/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates-affair-russian-bridge-player-8b2022ffMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Jeffrey Epstein Appeared to Threaten Bill Gates Over Microsoft Co-Founder’s Affair With Russian Bridge Player - WSJMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> might be a decoyMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> there might be moreMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> past years said he slept with manyMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> so maybe they shift focus away from youngMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> and also make him look like VICTIM of EpsteinMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> after some sites brought up questionMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> the story was "broken" byn publisher of Bill's friendMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> WSJ (Rupert murdoch)May 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> so I am sceptical of the motivesMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> "well, he's dead"May 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> remember bill went to PRISON to visit EpsteinMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> that article might be bill's spinner st workMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> framing him as a person of infidelityMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> rather than crimeMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> since "well, he's dead", Bill's PR spinners can come up with anythingMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> and Epstein cannot refuse or respondMay 22 18:19
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> *refuteMay 22 18:19
techrights[sec]_probably a red herring or strawman, definitely a distractionMay 22 18:27
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Microsoft healthcare AI subsidiary Nuance hit with job cuts https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/disruptors/microsoft-healthcare-ai-subsidiary-nuance-hit-with-job-cuts.htmlMay 22 18:27
schestowitz-pi2did not even add to irc or daily linksMay 22 18:27
schestowitz-pi2he can afford spinMay 22 18:27
schestowitz-pi2:Thank you for getting in touch with me.May 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2This acknowledgment has been triggered automatically as I havent yet had chance to read yMay 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2our email. Emails are treated in the same manner and with the same level of importance asMay 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2other communications such as post, telephone and fax. Nevertheless I will try to respond tMay 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2o you promptly.May 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2If you are getting in touch about something urgent then please call on 0161 232 0872May 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2There are strict Parliamentary rules in place which mean that I am only allowed to act onMay 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2behalf of residents in my own constituency so please remember to include the following infMay 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2ormation in your email:May 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2Thank you for getting in touch with me.May 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2This acknowledgment has been triggered automatically as I havent yet had chance to read yMay 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2our email. Emails are treated in the same manner and with the same level of importance asMay 22 18:29
schestowitz-pi2other communications such as post, telephone and fax. Nevertheless I will try to respond tMay 22 18:30
schestowitz-pi2o you promptly.May 22 18:30
schestowitz-pi2If you are getting in touch about something urgent then please call on 0161 232 0872May 22 18:30
schestowitz-pi2There are strict Parliamentary rules in place which mean that I am only allowed to act onMay 22 18:30
schestowitz-pi2behalf of residents in my own constituency so please remember to include the following infMay 22 18:30
schestowitz-pi2ormation in your email:May 22 18:30
schestowitz-pi2:May 22 18:30
techrights-newsIBM Versus GNU/Linux Community (Including Fedora) | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/ibm-and-fedora/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/ibm-and-fedora/May 22 18:59
techrights-newsIBM Loves Microsoft | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/22/ibm-loves-microsoft/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/22/ibm-loves-microsoft/May 22 19:04
schestowitz-pi2backing up bubi (laptop)May 22 19:08
schestowitz-pi2gnMay 22 19:08

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