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techrights-news | Techrights — Welcome to the New Techrights ⇨ https://techrights.org/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ ∎ | Oct 22 02:13 |
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techrights-news | Techrights – Gemini Links 22/10/2024: Chokepoint Capitalism, Retro Workshop, and More ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Gemini_Links_22_10_2024_Chokepoint_Capitalism_Retro_Workshop_an.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Gemini_Links_22_10_2024_Chokepoint_Capitalism_Retro_Workshop_an.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 02:13 |
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schestowitz-pi3 | <techrights-news> groklaw still effectively offline. Doesn't seem like it's coming back this time around... | Oct 22 02:43 |
schestowitz-pi3 | <techrights-news> And that's a shame because it exclusively covered so many important things, usually accompanied with original documents no other site had | Oct 22 02:43 |
schestowitz-pi3 | <techrights-news> Not only the Web is volatile. Modern books too. So few (young) people read/buy books, libraries shut down, libraries even burn old stocks of books, or never stock any new books, so most newly-published books barely have any physical copies 'in circulation'. This is so sad. Social control media misinformation spreads and goes "viral". | Oct 22 02:43 |
techrights-news | Techrights – IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 21, 2024 ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/IRC_Proceedings_Monday_October_21_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/IRC_Proceedings_Monday_October_21_2024.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 02:51 |
techrights-news | Tux Machines ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/ ∎ | Oct 22 02:52 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 02:52 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 02:53 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 03:52 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, ESP32, and More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_ESP32_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_ESP32_and_More.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 03:54 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 03:57 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 03:59 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Wine 9.20 Rolls Out with Improved DirectPlay Support ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/19/Wine_9_20_Rolls_Out_with_Improved_DirectPlay_Support.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/19/Wine_9_20_Rolls_Out_with_Improved_DirectPlay_Support.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Software ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Distributions and Operating Systems: Haiku and Safer Puppy Linux ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Distributions_and_Operating_Systems_Haiku_and_Safer_Puppy_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Distributions_and_Operating_Systems_Haiku_and_Safer_Puppy_Linux.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Free Software/Applications in Review ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Free_Software_Applications_in_Review.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Free_Software_Applications_in_Review.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GNUHealth, GNU Boot, and GNU World Order ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/GNUHealth_GNU_Boot_and_GNU_World_Order.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/GNUHealth_GNU_Boot_and_GNU_World_Order.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Hardware, Games, and Software ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Hardware_Games_and_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Hardware_Games_and_Software.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): KUnifiedPush 1.0.0 is out! ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/KUnifiedPush_1_0_0_is_out.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/KUnifiedPush_1_0_0_is_out.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): LastOSLinux – Linux for Windows users ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/LastOSLinux_Linux_for_Windows_users.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/LastOSLinux_Linux_for_Windows_users.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux 6.12-rc4 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Linux_6_12_rc4.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Linux_6_12_rc4.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: ESP32, Raspberry Pi, and More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Open_Hardware_ESP32_Raspberry_Pi_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Open_Hardware_ESP32_Raspberry_Pi_and_More.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Slackware-Based PorteuX 1.7 Launches with Linux 6.11, GNOME 47.1, and More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Slackware_Based_PorteuX_1_7_Launches_with_Linux_6_11_GNOME_47_1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Slackware_Based_PorteuX_1_7_Launches_with_Linux_6_11_GNOME_47_1.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Too many tablets ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Too_many_tablets.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Too_many_tablets.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 10 Essential Linux Terminal Applications to Boost Productivity ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/10_Essential_Linux_Terminal_Applications_to_Boost_Productivity.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/10_Essential_Linux_Terminal_Applications_to_Boost_Productivity.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 20 years of Linux on the Desktop (part 1) ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/20_years_of_Linux_on_the_Desktop_part_1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/20_years_of_Linux_on_the_Desktop_part_1.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 20th, 2024 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_20th_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_20th_2024.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Software ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GNU/Linux Still Growing, Even on Desktops/Laptops ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/GNU_Linux_Still_Growing_Even_on_Desktops_Laptops.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/GNU_Linux_Still_Growing_Even_on_Desktops_Laptops.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Happy 20th Anniversary, Ubuntu! ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Happy_20th_Anniversary_Ubuntu.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Happy_20th_Anniversary_Ubuntu.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Review: Kubuntu 24.10 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Review_Kubuntu_24_10.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/21/Review_Kubuntu_24_10.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:33 |
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pi | Are TR/TM down? | Oct 22 04:34 |
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techrights-sec6 | Are TR/TM down? | Oct 22 04:35 |
schestowitz-pi | network maintenance/hypervisor | Oct 22 04:35 |
schestowitz-pi | window | Oct 22 04:35 |
schestowitz-pi | it's good it happens in proximity to the reboot | Oct 22 04:36 |
techrights-sec6 | ok | Oct 22 04:36 |
techrights-sec6 | that's good | Oct 22 04:36 |
techrights-sec6 | I had just accessed it and could not. It's back now. | Oct 22 04:36 |
techrights-news | Techrights – A Classic Example of Concern Trolling ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/20/A_Classic_Example_of_Concern_Trolling.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/20/A_Classic_Example_of_Concern_Trolling.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:36 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Gemini Links 20/10/2024: Ósanwë Launched and Selfhosting Debated ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2024_Osanwe_Launched_and_Selfhosting_Debated.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2024_Osanwe_Launched_and_Selfhosting_Debated.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:36 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Gemini Links 21/10/2024: SPFBO and Flight of the Scions, Software Freedom, and Solar-powered Web sites ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/20/Gemini_Links_21_10_2024_SPFBO_and_Flight_of_the_Scions_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/20/Gemini_Links_21_10_2024_SPFBO_and_Flight_of_the_Scions_Software.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:36 |
techrights-news | Techrights – New Richard Stallman Episode at Digital Minds Podcast ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/New_Richard_Stallman_Episode_at_Digital_Minds_Podcast.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/New_Richard_Stallman_Episode_at_Digital_Minds_Podcast.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 04:40 |
schestowitz-pi | in short: some irc clients do not reconnect or take ages to reconnect | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | that's why irc networks tend to be multi-node | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | they are also "live" | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | so when we reboot or network goes down for DC work | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | there are hangups | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | and it can take days for some people to get back on | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | if _at all_ | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | bottom line: minimise hangups | Oct 22 04:46 |
schestowitz-pi | if they can be batched, it's better | Oct 22 04:46 |
techrights-sec6 | Makes sense. I know little to nothing about IRC use. | Oct 22 04:54 |
schestowitz-pi | irc is very handy | Oct 22 04:55 |
schestowitz-pi | more so when you know how to do it on your own | Oct 22 04:55 |
schestowitz-pi | like wikileaks did in 2007ish | Oct 22 04:55 |
schestowitz-pi | before the fbi pedo was spying on all the channels and leaks out the logs | Oct 22 04:55 |
techrights-sec6 | If I read correctly, 11ty regenerates and re-writes *all* posts with | Oct 22 05:09 |
techrights-sec6 | each update. Our SSG does not do that. | Oct 22 05:09 |
schestowitz-pi | rewriting _too much_ seems risky | Oct 22 05:10 |
schestowitz-pi | as you cannot see what's happening | Oct 22 05:10 |
schestowitz-pi | so it can silently go "wrong" | Oct 22 05:10 |
techrights-sec6 | It is slow, energy intense, | Oct 22 05:10 |
techrights-sec6 | and wears down the storage medium. | Oct 22 05:10 |
techrights-sec6 | There's no need to write unless the data has changed. Ours tracks if | Oct 22 05:11 |
techrights-sec6 | a post has changed or nor or is new. Only the new stuff gets written | Oct 22 05:11 |
techrights-sec6 | unless there is an explicit override. | Oct 22 05:11 |
techrights-sec6 | ] | Oct 22 05:11 |
schestowitz-pi | laterial thinking: maybe the botspam on wwww partly rationalise moving to static | Oct 22 05:11 |
schestowitz-pi | just a theory! | Oct 22 05:11 |
schestowitz-pi | *lateral | Oct 22 05:12 |
techrights-sec6 | That's much faster and all around better IMO | Oct 22 05:12 |
techrights-sec6 | It is a factor. The bots really drag down the sites on the back-end. | Oct 22 05:12 |
techrights-sec6 | I see in the logs that the same bots are pulling in the same pages | Oct 22 05:12 |
techrights-sec6 | over and over and over again even though the pages have not changed | Oct 22 05:12 |
techrights-sec6 | in the years they have been in the SSG. | Oct 22 05:12 |
schestowitz-pi | correct | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | tm is 1,000,000+ per day for days | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | i doubt it's because people factor etc. | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | i have re-orged my kde on the new h/w | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | it now has... 9 terminals (konsole) | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne also uses 3 laptops | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | today i will try to chill if i can | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | and will be afk soon | Oct 22 05:15 |
schestowitz-pi | some feed has been crashing feedlist for 2-3 days already | Oct 22 05:15 |
techrights-sec6 | Which feedlist? | Oct 22 05:17 |
techrights-sec6 | Which feed? | Oct 22 05:17 |
schestowitz-pi | it is the name of my pyhon program | Oct 22 05:19 |
schestowitz-pi | which harvests full text, too | Oct 22 05:19 |
schestowitz-pi | priority atm is writing articles | Oct 22 05:19 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne and others catch foss news anyway | Oct 22 05:19 |
schestowitz-pi | but topics are scarce | Oct 22 05:19 |
schestowitz-pi | i find it hard to make videos because i need several topics at a time | Oct 22 05:19 |
schestowitz-pi | to justify preparing the gear, testing etc | Oct 22 05:19 |
schestowitz-pi | i put s smoke alarm in the kitchen | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | new but good price | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | this one lets the batts be recharged | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | unlike many of the others | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | that say throw away, buy news one | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | aa batts (2) | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | we got 8 rechargeables | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | will also help with house clocks, 4 i think | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | i did like 60 house chores yesterday | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | but never make a "list" | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | it's a known issue to women | Oct 22 05:23 |
schestowitz-pi | they get so much done, but it cannot be enumerated or reported per se | Oct 22 05:24 |
schestowitz-pi | i will take a break shortly | Oct 22 05:24 |
schestowitz-pi | been a good few days | Oct 22 05:24 |
schestowitz-pi | and rms is moving on, so to speak | Oct 22 05:24 |
schestowitz-pi | i fixed andy's oops last night, part 4 hits the nail on the head | Oct 22 05:24 |
schestowitz-pi | i nailed about 60 nails onto the fence on sunday, hopefully good for 4 years | Oct 22 05:24 |
techrights-sec6 | I'll be reading the latest installment in Andy's series later today | Oct 22 05:27 |
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techrights-sec6 | The disappearance of Groklaw can be a topic, especially a review of | Oct 22 05:48 |
techrights-sec6 | what was there and what PJ covered and how she ran the site. | Oct 22 05:48 |
techrights-sec6 | ^ topic ? | Oct 22 05:48 |
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schestowitz-pi | prio0: keep material accessible | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | prio1: reduce tech debt (resilience) | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | recall groklaw remarks from last night | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | prior2: respond to fud, fast | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | prio3: curate links | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | (imho, ymmv) | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | back | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | groklaw thing covered in TR already | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | would be repetition | Oct 22 07:22 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne brainstorm | Oct 22 07:28 |
schestowitz-pi | agenda: mention rms in re peru, podcasts etc. | Oct 22 07:28 |
schestowitz-pi | make sure people remember the smear only in humourous terms | Oct 22 07:28 |
schestowitz-pi | then remind people what FS means | Oct 22 07:28 |
schestowitz-pi | agree? | Oct 22 07:28 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: FMV Adventures Bundle, SILENT HILL 2, and Lots More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Games_FMV_Adventures_Bundle_SILENT_HILL_2_and_Lots_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Games_FMV_Adventures_Bundle_SILENT_HILL_2_and_Lots_More.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 07:34 |
techrights-sec6 | sounds good | Oct 22 07:38 |
schestowitz-pi | thanks for the afirmation | Oct 22 07:39 |
schestowitz-pi | rn i see many links, try to think if some can be turned into topics later | Oct 22 07:39 |
schestowitz-pi | lately... very dry in the news | Oct 22 07:39 |
schestowitz-pi | plus, VOLUME of news... LOW | Oct 22 07:39 |
schestowitz-pi | *affirmation | Oct 22 07:39 |
techrights-sec6 | yes news is sparse, I've been trying to harvest more blog posts but | Oct 22 07:40 |
techrights-sec6 | too many of those are no longer producing posts but simply 2-paragraph | Oct 22 07:40 |
techrights-sec6 | hot takes. Those are not worth the time. | Oct 22 07:40 |
schestowitz-pi | sometimes i can quote the ENTIRY "blog post" in irc | Oct 22 07:40 |
schestowitz-pi | and leave it at that ;-) | Oct 22 07:40 |
schestowitz-pi | at least it's not "tweet" | Oct 22 07:40 |
schestowitz-pi | musk made twitter worth LESS than its DEBT | Oct 22 07:41 |
schestowitz-pi | now it processes it as "BOT FODDER" | Oct 22 07:41 |
schestowitz-pi | "HEY HI" | Oct 22 07:41 |
schestowitz-pi | there is not much monetary value in that | Oct 22 07:41 |
schestowitz-pi | just hype quotient | Oct 22 07:41 |
techrights-sec6 | Mastodon is not much better, | Oct 22 07:43 |
techrights-sec6 | There was someone in TR and elsewhere that used to have the handle 'Twitter' | Oct 22 07:43 |
techrights-sec6 | long before the 72-character social control media site | Oct 22 07:43 |
schestowitz-pi | andy mentioned jub8illeee | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | there is a lot of ANGER in the world ATM | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | in shops | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | streets | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | etc | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | sometime even family | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | happy people CANNOT escape that | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | "Twitter" has kids | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | but still surviving | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | just about | Oct 22 07:44 |
schestowitz-pi | v nice person | Oct 22 07:44 |
techrights-sec6 | They cannot escape and the angry people find them and tear them down. | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | Oct 22 07:46 | |
techrights-sec6 | Apropos angry people, specifically islam-driven anger, a friend | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | who likes to travel was in Sweden for a while this summer and | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | relayed more about the situation. We could not talk long on the topic | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | but the situation there is /far/ worse than I had thought. And as you | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | know I am quite concerned/negative about what's gone on there. | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | A friend still living there had also mentioned that Midsummer was | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | ]more or less canceld as there was a prohibition on gathering in groups,, | Oct 22 07:46 |
techrights-sec6 | carrying bags or backpacks (even for picnics) | Oct 22 07:46 |
schestowitz-pi | we are waiting for the bird atm | Oct 22 07:47 |
schestowitz-pi | they come soon | Oct 22 07:47 |
schestowitz-pi | i try to find solitude in "my crib" | Oct 22 07:47 |
schestowitz-pi | i am also more hesitant to talk to strangers in email, irc etc. | Oct 22 07:47 |
techrights-sec6 | https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/field-of-seeds/ | Oct 22 07:48 |
techrights-sec6 | Birds can be trained with seed. | Oct 22 07:48 |
techrights-sec6 | If you have Willowtitmice there, they are super tame and can eat out | Oct 22 07:48 |
techrights-sec6 | of your hand, though that is unsanitary and you must wash carefully | Oct 22 07:48 |
techrights-sec6 | with lots of soap and water, | Oct 22 07:48 |
schestowitz-pi | theory (would stand corrected) | Oct 22 07:52 |
schestowitz-pi | as fewer and fewer sites are active | Oct 22 07:52 |
schestowitz-pi | last ones standing are magnets to abuse: irc, comments (hackaday!), email, larping | Oct 22 07:52 |
schestowitz-pi | so people need to stick together | Oct 22 07:52 |
techrights-sec6 | True. That does mean that to stick together, more communication and cooperation | Oct 22 07:52 |
techrights-sec6 | is necessary as a prerequisite. | Oct 22 07:52 |
schestowitz-pi | grokw could even be taken offline by one letter orphonecall | Oct 22 07:53 |
schestowitz-pi | or one person falling ill | Oct 22 07:53 |
schestowitz-pi | we will never know | Oct 22 07:53 |
techrights-sec6 | Pretty much all web sites are single point of failure disasters waiting | Oct 22 07:56 |
techrights-sec6 | to happen. That much was known and discussed even in 1996 and perhaps 1995 | Oct 22 07:56 |
techrights-sec6 | by that times archivists. One was in Canada and named Charles Dollar, | Oct 22 07:56 |
techrights-sec6 | but new generations are not rising to the occasion or even cognizant of | Oct 22 07:56 |
techrights-sec6 | the situation. | Oct 22 07:56 |
schestowitz-pi | our dns has two names/addresses | Oct 22 07:57 |
schestowitz-pi | so we are robust | Oct 22 07:57 |
schestowitz-pi | like H.A. | Oct 22 07:57 |
schestowitz-pi | since 2019 iirc | Oct 22 07:57 |
schestowitz-pi | -[c]----------------- | Oct 22 07:57 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Latest From redhat.com ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Latest_From_redhat_com.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Latest_From_redhat_com.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 08:12 |
techrights-sec6 | Static sites are easy to mirror, too, if needed | Oct 22 08:21 |
techrights-sec6 | There's no hard requirement that they be served on the same system | Oct 22 08:21 |
techrights-sec6 | where the database resides. | Oct 22 08:21 |
techrights-sec6 | biab | Oct 22 08:21 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers and Windows TCO ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 09:03 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Clementine Music Player Released 1.4.1 Stable after 8 Years of DEV | UbuntuHandbook ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Clementine_Music_Player_Released_1_4_1_Stable_after_8_Years_of_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Clementine_Music_Player_Released_1_4_1_Stable_after_8_Years_of_.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 09:28 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ada Lovelace Day 2024 - Interview with some Women in Debian ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Ada_Lovelace_Day_2024_Interview_with_some_Women_in_Debian.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Ada_Lovelace_Day_2024_Interview_with_some_Women_in_Debian.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 09:56 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> "The directors will undergo a similar process as the newly selected board members." h | Oct 22 10:09 |
schestowitz-pi | https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-associate-members-to-assist-in-review-current-board-members | Source: FSF | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.fsf.org | FSF associate members to assist in review of current board members Free Software Foundation Working together for free so | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | software | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> "Check out the important work our volunteers accomplished at today's Free Software Directory (FSD) IRC meeting." h | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/fsd-meeting-recap-2024-10-18 | Source: FSF | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.fsf.org | FSD meeting recap 2024-10-18 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> lxoliva: hopefully not a response to the mob | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> trying t o appease a mob is ALWAYS a bad idea | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> as it emboldens a mob | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> like RMS issuing a statement and FSF a press release | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> to appease people who just hate FS | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> and concern-troll FSF | Oct 22 10:10 |
techrights-sec6 | back | Oct 22 10:10 |
techrights-sec6 | There were serveral good articles a while back about how mob appeasement | Oct 22 10:10 |
techrights-sec6 | only causes further abuse and attacks. Maybe those were two or three years | Oct 22 10:10 |
techrights-sec6 | ago but I cannot recall the authors. Both went into detail with logic and | Oct 22 10:10 |
techrights-sec6 | case studies. But to be sure it was a mistake for RMS to cave on that. | Oct 22 10:10 |
schestowitz-pi | right | Oct 22 10:10 |
techrights-sec6 | He'll be able to recover, partially, but I would have rather he spent | Oct 22 10:11 |
techrights-sec6 | his later years as an advisor mentor rather than playing catchup. | Oct 22 10:11 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Software ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 10:14 |
schestowitz-pi | he is no pope | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | no "jesus" | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | no sons | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | so this idea of "sucessor" assumes grassroots cannot sort things out | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | there is a race though | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | sfc et al | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | they try to "kill the king" with mental poison vine | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | ad hom | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | drew devault only managed to upset all his | Oct 22 10:19 |
schestowitz-pi | followers etc | Oct 22 10:19 |
techrights-sec6 | Yes, there would be no successor, but with planning he can avoid chaos | Oct 22 10:21 |
techrights-sec6 | or a vaccuum either of which would be harmful to GNU and FSF | Oct 22 10:21 |
techrights-sec6 | Yes, but to be sure the opponents of software freedom, and perhaps freedom | Oct 22 10:21 |
techrights-sec6 | in general, will go to massive attack once RMS is no lonfger able to | Oct 22 10:21 |
techrights-sec6 | participate. Look at Kuhn and the others and what they have dared | Oct 22 10:21 |
techrights-sec6 | while RMS was at his prime. | Oct 22 10:21 |
schestowitz-pi | fsf already has one: knauth | Oct 22 10:21 |
schestowitz-pi | fsf pres | Oct 22 10:21 |
schestowitz-pi | rms took 'demotion' | Oct 22 10:21 |
schestowitz-pi | left a friend in charge | Oct 22 10:21 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ufficio Zero – Linux distribution ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Ufficio_Zero_Linux_distribution.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Ufficio_Zero_Linux_distribution.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 10:23 |
techrights-sec6 | Knauth? | Oct 22 10:23 |
techrights-sec6 | yes that was a good move | Oct 22 10:23 |
techrights-sec6 | as supportive as I am of RMS, there is a time for everything | Oct 22 10:23 |
techrights-sec6 | and having a robust insitution which can survive without him | Oct 22 10:23 |
techrights-sec6 | will ensure that it still does well while he is still here. | Oct 22 10:23 |
techrights-sec6 | The FreeBSD has a very different organization and rotates roles quite often | Oct 22 10:23 |
techrights-sec6 | on purpose. Over the coming decades, that might be a model to consider. | Oct 22 10:23 |
schestowitz-pi | wife's view is, focus on tr | Oct 22 10:24 |
schestowitz-pi | do tr | Oct 22 10:24 |
schestowitz-pi | fsf is a friend | Oct 22 10:24 |
schestowitz-pi | and we have backchannels | Oct 22 10:24 |
schestowitz-pi | this makes single-point-of-f infeasible | Oct 22 10:24 |
techrights-sec6 | yes it is a freind | Oct 22 10:24 |
schestowitz-pi | so we know to support our friend | Oct 22 10:24 |
schestowitz-pi | esp. when it needs it | Oct 22 10:25 |
schestowitz-pi | even when it does not ask for help | Oct 22 10:25 |
schestowitz-pi | <Ingar> there might be clear skies today | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <Ingar> looks like I'll get a second chance to catch the comet | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <janrinok> good luck! | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <halibut> Don't catch it! Let it roam free! | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <halibut> At least tell you you plan to catch-and-release. | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <Ingar> before I release it, I plan on sticking it on ari's back | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <Ingar> tsuchinshan-atlas-aristarchus | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <halibut> That's an amusing variant of pin-the-tail. | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | <Ingar> halibut: :D | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | they are voice-only now | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | BUT | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | no need to reg to enter | Oct 22 10:26 |
schestowitz-pi | much better! | Oct 22 10:26 |
techrights-sec6 | good | Oct 22 10:28 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Calibre eBook Manager Intros New PDF Conversion Engine ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Calibre_eBook_Manager_Intros_New_PDF_Conversion_Engine.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Calibre_eBook_Manager_Intros_New_PDF_Conversion_Engine.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 10:29 |
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schestowitz-pi | we just cooked about 6l of lentils | Oct 22 10:50 |
schestowitz-pi | turns out they're as protein-rich as beef (ish) | Oct 22 10:50 |
schestowitz-pi | i stocked up lots of them, good till 2026 | Oct 22 10:50 |
techrights-sec6 | There are a lot of good lentil recipes, especially from Indian cuisine. | Oct 22 10:54 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 2024 LiveCD Memory Usage Compare ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/2024_LiveCD_Memory_Usage_Compare.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/2024_LiveCD_Memory_Usage_Compare.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 10:58 |
schestowitz-pi | yesterday for the first time we started using the loft | Oct 22 11:09 |
schestowitz-pi | for now just for large boxes of snacks | Oct 22 11:09 |
schestowitz-pi | i also put out the balloons and happy birthday stuff ahead of tr bday | Oct 22 11:09 |
schestowitz-pi | we plan to go to massage at raddison | Oct 22 11:09 |
schestowitz-pi | rianne checks atm | Oct 22 11:09 |
schestowitz-pi | "swedish" massage | Oct 22 11:09 |
schestowitz-pi | so i told here what TIL | Oct 22 11:09 |
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techrights-sec6 | "Soylent Update" | Oct 22 11:40 |
techrights-sec6 | https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=24/10/22/0857212 | Oct 22 11:40 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> "New hardware is being set up which will allow us to drastically reduce the running costs of the site. Two people, fliptop and kolie, have donated the use of servers and internet connections free of charge to SoylentNews." https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=24/10/22/0857212 | Oct 22 11:42 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> "There will be issues regarding updates to software for which new procedures will have to be produced and documented, but that is a task for the future and it need not delay the transfer." https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=24/10/22/0857212 | Oct 22 11:42 |
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techrights-sec6 | biab | Oct 22 11:55 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): HiFive Premier P550 mini-DTX motherboard features ESWIN EIC7700X RISC-V AI SoC, up to 32GB DDR5, a PCIe x16 slot ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/HiFive_Premier_P550_mini_DTX_motherboard_features_ESWIN_EIC7700.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/HiFive_Premier_P550_mini_DTX_motherboard_features_ESWIN_EIC7700.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 12:35 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): PipeWire 1.0.9 Addresses Audio Sync and Memory Leaks ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/PipeWire_1_0_9_Addresses_Audio_Sync_and_Memory_Leaks.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/PipeWire_1_0_9_Addresses_Audio_Sync_and_Memory_Leaks.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 12:56 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Conflict of interest fear as Abusive Monopolist Microsoft signs deal with Whitehall ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Conflict_of_interest_fear_as_Abusive_Monopolist_Microsoft_signs.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Conflict_of_interest_fear_as_Abusive_Monopolist_Microsoft_signs.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:17 |
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techrights-news | Techrights – Microsoft Waters Down Articles About Its Corruption in the UK ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Microsoft_Waters_Down_Articles_About_Its_Corruption_in_the_UK.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Microsoft_Waters_Down_Articles_About_Its_Corruption_in_the_UK.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:22 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:30 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: MacroPad and More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Open_Hardware_Modding_MacroPad_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Open_Hardware_Modding_MacroPad_and_More.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:37 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:38 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Software: Gaming Emulators, TEN AI, Bootc ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Software_Gaming_Emulators_TEN_AI_Bootc.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Software_Gaming_Emulators_TEN_AI_Bootc.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:38 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): FreeBSD and OpenBSD Picks ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/FreeBSD_and_OpenBSD_Picks.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/FreeBSD_and_OpenBSD_Picks.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:40 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_leftovers.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_leftovers.2.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:43 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:45 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:47 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Links 22/10/2024: Ukraine Updates, China's Economic Difficulties ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Links_22_10_2024_Ukraine_Updates_China_s_Economic_Difficulties.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Links_22_10_2024_Ukraine_Updates_China_s_Economic_Difficulties.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 13:49 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): OpenSSL 3.4 Released with Initial Attribute Certificate (RFC 5755) Support ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/OpenSSL_3_4_Released_with_Initial_Attribute_Certificate_RFC_575.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/OpenSSL_3_4_Released_with_Initial_Attribute_Certificate_RFC_575.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 14:00 |
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schestowitz-pi | <lxoliva> schestowitz, this review had long been planned, it was announced along with the discussion of new board candidates over a year ago. the question in my mind is whether the new attack was timed to influence this process | Oct 22 14:54 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): KDE Plasma 6.2.2 Is Out Now to Improve Compatibility with Specific Hardware ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/KDE_Plasma_6_2_2_Is_Out_Now_to_Improve_Compatibility_with_Speci.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/KDE_Plasma_6_2_2_Is_Out_Now_to_Improve_Compatibility_with_Speci.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 15:15 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> Baidu CEO warns Hey Hi (AI) is just an inevitable bubble — 99% of Hey Hi (AI) companies are at risk of failing when the bubble bursts ☞ https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/baidu-ceo-warns-ai-is-just-an-inevitable-bubble-99-percent-of-ai-companies-are-at-risk-of-failing-when-the-bubble-bursts | Oct 22 15:18 |
techrights-sec6 | Perl may be dead, it seems to have gone all in on M$ GitHub | Oct 22 15:18 |
techrights-sec6 | I replied to Tom at BSD Now (keeping Jason in the loop) and explained | Oct 22 15:18 |
techrights-sec6 | the RSS feeds. | Oct 22 15:18 |
techrights-sec6 | I'm wondering if it would be an idea to use the method on the fulltext | Oct 22 15:18 |
techrights-sec6 | part of the TM db. | Oct 22 15:18 |
schestowitz-pi | decades ago they said c was dead/dying | Oct 22 15:19 |
schestowitz-pi | perl was likely paid off | Oct 22 15:19 |
schestowitz-pi | like others | Oct 22 15:19 |
schestowitz-pi | to help fake github dominance | Oct 22 15:19 |
schestowitz-pi | peanuts for fake | Oct 22 15:19 |
schestowitz-pi | gitlab does the same | Oct 22 15:19 |
techrights-sec6 | Yeah but C is not captured by M$ GitHub | Oct 22 15:20 |
techrights-sec6 | It is possible that there were quislings in key positions who arranged a sellout | Oct 22 15:20 |
schestowitz-pi | they bought npm | Oct 22 15:21 |
schestowitz-pi | but not cpan | Oct 22 15:21 |
schestowitz-pi | they just LOSE a lot of $ | Oct 22 15:21 |
techrights-sec6 | M$ has hated Perl, especially CPAN, for decades | Oct 22 15:23 |
techrights-sec6 | Now the forum is flooded with Perl-on-Vista10 scum | Oct 22 15:23 |
schestowitz-pi | Windows needs to die | Oct 22 15:24 |
schestowitz-pi | the sooner, the better | Oct 22 15:24 |
schestowitz-pi | it's obstacle | Oct 22 15:24 |
schestowitz-pi | shithub also | Oct 22 15:24 |
schestowitz-pi | they are there just to secure lock-in | Oct 22 15:24 |
schestowitz-pi | so kill them off | Oct 22 15:24 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GNUHealth, GNU Boot, and GNU World Order ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/GNUHealth_GNU_Boot_and_GNU_World_Order.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/GNUHealth_GNU_Boot_and_GNU_World_Order.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 15:27 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux 6.12-rc4 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Linux_6_12_rc4.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/20/Linux_6_12_rc4.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 15:27 |
techrights-sec6 | M$ has been holding computing back decades now. The world may be | Oct 22 15:29 |
techrights-sec6 | 40 years behind due to m$. The damage done to the universities, though, | Oct 22 15:29 |
techrights-sec6 | might take a couple lifetimes if that. | Oct 22 15:29 |
schestowitz-pi | yes, this story needs to be told | Oct 22 15:31 |
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techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): System76 Unveils the Thelio Astra ARM64 Ampere-Powered Desktop Computer ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/System76_Unveils_the_Thelio_Astra_ARM64_Ampere_Powered_Desktop_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/System76_Unveils_the_Thelio_Astra_ARM64_Ampere_Powered_Desktop_.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 15:35 |
schestowitz-pi | https://news.google.com/search?q=microsoft%20layoffs%20when%3A1d&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB%3Aen | Oct 22 15:50 |
schestowitz-pi | TR | Oct 22 15:50 |
schestowitz-pi | tr does not tackle msft head-on | Oct 22 15:50 |
schestowitz-pi | we deal more with epo, swpats etc. | Oct 22 15:50 |
schestowitz-pi | it's just one battle front | Oct 22 15:50 |
schestowitz-pi | i have material in drafts about it | Oct 22 15:50 |
schestowitz-pi | rms = another battalion | Oct 22 15:51 |
techrights-sec6 | I'd encourage adding to the original article or making a second one, | Oct 22 15:55 |
techrights-sec6 | rather than cross-linking: | Oct 22 15:55 |
techrights-sec6 | https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Conflict_of_interest_fear_as_Abusive_Monopolist_Microsoft_signs.shtml | Oct 22 15:55 |
techrights-sec6 | M$ conflict of interest and infiltration of governments is an important | Oct 22 15:55 |
techrights-sec6 | topic with serious repercussions for naqtional defense, | Oct 22 15:55 |
techrights-sec6 | M$ conflict of interest and infiltration of governments is an important | Oct 22 15:58 |
techrights-sec6 | topic with serious negative repercussions for naional defense, | Oct 22 15:58 |
techrights-sec6 | ^ topic ? | Oct 22 15:58 |
schestowitz-pi | atm i want to string it with s/t | Oct 22 15:59 |
schestowitz-pi | but not sure what that something will be | Oct 22 15:59 |
schestowitz-pi | doing links atm | Oct 22 15:59 |
schestowitz-pi | like a MOTRO :D | Oct 22 15:59 |
schestowitz-pi | articles are better with more than "single source" | Oct 22 15:59 |
schestowitz-pi | _________________________________________________________ | Oct 22 16:04 |
schestowitz-pi | ██████████ Techrights ██████████ | Oct 22 16:04 |
schestowitz-pi | 34895 /home/gemini//logs/agate.techrights.log | Oct 22 16:04 |
schestowitz-pi | 37865 /home/gemini//logs/agate.techrights.log.1 | Oct 22 16:04 |
schestowitz-pi | 96065 | Oct 22 16:04 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> South Korean senior group head calls for the government to raise senior citizen age to 75 ☞ https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-korean-senior-group-head-calls-for-the-government-to-raise-senior-citizen-age-to-75 | Oct 22 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.straitstimes.com | South Korean senior group head calls for the government to raise senior citizen age to 75 | The Straits Times | Oct 22 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> Study, work, work, work, work, die. -South Korea | Oct 22 16:10 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> North Korea: eat, fight, beg to eat, fight, die | Oct 22 16:12 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> Japan: die, work to pay for the burial | Oct 22 16:12 |
techrights-sec6 | That's a lot, I hope most are not bots. | Oct 22 16:19 |
schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> There may soon be no .tw anymore. Xi (Pooh-Tin) probably waits for US election outcome first, to assess the simulated response from the West, which did virtually nothing when Putin annexed Crimea in 2014. | Oct 22 16:21 |
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techrights-sec6 | Yep | Oct 22 16:33 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, Destination Linux, and Late Night Linux ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Audiocasts_Shows_LINUX_Unplugged_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Nig.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Audiocasts_Shows_LINUX_Unplugged_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Nig.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 17:27 |
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techrights-sec6 | biab | Oct 22 17:49 |
schestowitz-pi | nned your advice: | Oct 22 17:50 |
schestowitz-pi | https://www.drydeadfish.co.uk/microsoft-and-uk-government-sign-multi-year-tech-agreement/ | Oct 22 17:50 |
schestowitz-pi | ai ai ai | Oct 22 17:50 |
schestowitz-pi | any analysis? | Oct 22 17:50 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Linus Torvalds 'Articles' That Turn Out to be Slop ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Linus_Torvalds_Articles_That_Turn_Out_to_be_Slop.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Linus_Torvalds_Articles_That_Turn_Out_to_be_Slop.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 17:53 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 17:59 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 17:59 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, 3D Printed Trackpad, and More ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_3D_Printed_Trackpad_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_3D_Printed_Trackpad_and_More.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 18:01 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.2.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 18:04 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Free Software Mirrors in India, GNU Parallel, and Release of CloudNativePG 1.24.1 and 1.23.5 ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Free_Software_Mirrors_in_India_GNU_Parallel_and_Release_of_Clou.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/Free_Software_Mirrors_in_India_GNU_Parallel_and_Release_of_Clou.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 18:06 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_leftovers.3.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/today_s_leftovers.3.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 18:07 |
techrights-news | Techrights – Links 22/10/2024: IBM Layoffs in California, Efforts to Raise Retirement Age to 75 ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Links_22_10_2024_IBM_Layoffs_in_California_Efforts_to_Raise_Ret.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Links_22_10_2024_IBM_Layoffs_in_California_Efforts_to_Raise_Ret.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 18:09 |
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techrights-news | Techrights – Allegations Online: The EPO's Courts Are Just Mock Tribunals That Seek to Authorise Illegal Practices of EPO Management ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Allegations_Online_The_EPO_s_Courts_Are_Just_Mock_Tribunals_Tha.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Allegations_Online_The_EPO_s_Courts_Are_Just_Mock_Tribunals_Tha.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 19:41 |
techrights-news | Techrights – [Meme] UPC Judges ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Meme_UPC_Judges.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/10/22/Meme_UPC_Judges.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 19:48 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GNU/Linux Leftovers ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/GNU_Linux_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/10/22/GNU_Linux_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 22 19:54 |
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