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techrights-sec2checkingJan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2it was added 2023-09-20  09:47:12Jan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2not sure why or by whomJan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2right after ssh and rsyncJan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2it might be part of the default installation script from the hosting providerJan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2# ls -d /var/lib/mysql/boycottn_*Jan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2/var/lib/mysql/boycottn_drupal  /var/lib/mysql/boycottn_wiki  Jan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2/var/lib/mysql/boycottn_wrdp1Jan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2The contents are last updated 2023-09-20Jan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2If you're not using the db, it can be removed.  I am not using it.  Jan 23 03:23
techrights-sec2It seems set to listen to remote connections but the new filter blocks thatJan 23 03:23
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schestowitz-pi<admfubar> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/19/1053225&from=rssJan 23 03:49
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- soylentnews.org | Supply Chain Attack Via MS GitHub's Runner Images - SoylentNewsJan 23 03:49
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techrights-newsWindows TCO https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/very-important-day-for-cyber-security-federal-government-slaps-targeted-sanctions-on-russian-cybercriminal-behind-2022-medibank-cyber-attack/news-story/8bc75e477bd09ea560bfcf2320fa8627Jan 23 04:40
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techrights-newsTechrights – Links 23/01/2024: Halo Retired by Microsoft After Cuts ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/Links_23_01_2024_Halo_Retired_by_Microsoft_After_Cuts.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/Links_23_01_2024_Halo_Retired_by_Microsoft_After_Cuts.gmi ∎Jan 23 04:45
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Government Covering Up Excess Deaths (Mortality) in the UK After Poor Response to COVID-19 and Profiteering https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2024/01/23/poor-response-to-covid-19/Jan 23 04:57
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35134200/Jan 23 04:57
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Calcific tendinitis of the shoulder induced by an mRNA vaccine for COVID-19: A case report - PubMedJan 23 04:57
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: Jan 23 04:57
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> This is what I have now.Jan 23 04:57
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Although not in the arm I got the shots in.Jan 23 04:57
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> A 'Pandemic' or Epidemic of Heart Diseases (After Botched Response to COVID-19) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2024/01/23/epidemic-of-heart-diseases/Jan 23 05:07
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f52S115iNpcJan 23 05:59
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techrights-sec2windoze kills :Jan 23 07:03
techrights-sec2https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/ransomware-hit-on-tietoevry-causes-outages-acroJan 23 07:03
techrights-sec2ss-sweden-a-24154Jan 23 07:03
techrights-sec2(in today's batch, later on)Jan 23 07:03
techrights-sec2The noise is that movie ticket sales and some shops are disrupted,Jan 23 07:03
techrights-sec2the real damage is to electronic patient recordsJan 23 07:03
techrights-sec2Should we uninstall mariadb from the server?  Jan 23 07:03
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: interestingJan 23 07:04
schestowitz-pidoes not seem like "cranks" to meJan 23 07:05
schestowitz-pigood to have win tco stories in TMJan 23 07:07
schestowitz-piyes, i did (by mistake) add two stories to TR that were meant for TMJan 23 07:07
schestowitz-piwe can remove mariadb assuming nothing else uses it somewhere in the chainJan 23 07:07
schestowitz-pii think disable (in systemd) will do tooJan 23 07:07
techrights-sec2Ok will disable mariadbJan 23 07:12
techrights-sec2The panel debate from the presidential candidates address Bytedance's TiktokJan 23 07:12
techrights-sec2somewhat.   One candidate correctly directly identified it as a psyops weapon.Jan 23 07:12
techrights-sec2However, the wrap up on the radio this morning completely glosses over thatJan 23 07:12
techrights-sec2 Jan 23 07:12
schestowitz-piit reaches more populatio and faster than old, traditional MSMJan 23 07:12
schestowitz-pieven via people's pocketsJan 23 07:12
schestowitz-piradio and msm find that alluring and outsourceJan 23 07:12
schestowitz-pii don't upload anything to youtubeJan 23 07:12
schestowitz-pior have twitterJan 23 07:12
schestowitz-piit encourages to people to "think" they followJan 23 07:12
schestowitz-pibut there is mitmJan 23 07:12
schestowitz-piin 2021 kaniini too became a bit mitm-likeJan 23 07:12
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: They lost control of the COVID narrative.Jan 23 07:13
DaemonFCLook at everything they did to suppress "I got the shots and this happened to me." and people still know.Jan 23 07:14
DaemonFC"Can't stop them from talking to each other....yet."Jan 23 07:14
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I'll never prove that the shots fucked up my arm with calcium deposits.Jan 23 07:15
schestowitz-pimy yoga teacherJan 23 07:15
schestowitz-piher partner nearly died from the vaccineJan 23 07:15
schestowitz-piand the doctors agreedJan 23 07:15
DaemonFCBut I know I have calcium deposits, that has been documented in other people who got mRNA COVID shots.Jan 23 07:15
schestowitz-pijust off the recordJan 23 07:15
DaemonFCAnd that I got the shots.Jan 23 07:15
schestowitz-pithey don't want to be called namedJan 23 07:15
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: If a doctor starts telling the truth about COVID shots, they can lose their medical license.Jan 23 07:16
DaemonFCBe forced to pay a huge fine, lie to everyone, and write an apology, to get the license back.Jan 23 07:16
DaemonFCNot much incentive to tell the truth.Jan 23 07:16
techrights-sec2WTF it is Tuesday only.Jan 23 07:16
schestowitz-pinew is dead since last weekJan 23 07:17
schestowitz-pidon't ask me WHYJan 23 07:17
schestowitz-pi*newsJan 23 07:17
schestowitz-pilow volume it too low s/n ratio to shortlistJan 23 07:17
schestowitz-pi[07:16] <DaemonFC> Not much incentive to tell the truth.Jan 23 07:18
schestowitz-piin 2020 i went to see cardioJan 23 07:18
schestowitz-piroutine check, nothing wrongJan 23 07:18
schestowitz-pithis was march 2020Jan 23 07:18
schestowitz-pithe lockdowns were just startingJan 23 07:18
schestowitz-pishe told me,Jan 23 07:18
schestowitz-pithe covid-19 deaths they scare us aboutJan 23 07:18
schestowitz-piin italy at the timeJan 23 07:18
schestowitz-pi(remember that was the media narrative)Jan 23 07:18
schestowitz-pipoor italians dropping like fliesJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-pishe told me those were very old peopleJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-piwho retire in italyJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-pipeople pople in their 80sJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-piso it was mostly killing old peopleJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-pibut the numbers added upJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-pithat did set the sceneJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-piin 2020Jan 23 07:19
schestowitz-piso people stayed homJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-piwe too stayed homeJan 23 07:19
schestowitz-pimonths later a friend told us, face to face, what the vaccine did to himJan 23 07:20
schestowitz-pihe was an early adopterJan 23 07:20
schestowitz-piI wrore about it:Jan 23 07:20
schestowitz-pihttps://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/04/21/astrazeneca-experiences/Jan 23 07:20
DaemonFChttps://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/18/opinions/sephora-kids-skin-care-teen-craze-thomas/index.htmlJan 23 07:28
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: News? Dead? No!Jan 23 07:28
DaemonFC:PJan 23 07:28
DaemonFChttps://www.investopedia.com/form-1099-c-understanding-your-1099-c-form-4782275Jan 23 07:39
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: The feds are going to leave a lot of people in trouble with their State tax departments with this canceled student loan debt.Jan 23 07:40
DaemonFCOne of the reasons I have never negotiated for a partial payment with a collection agency is they send you one of these.Jan 23 07:41
DaemonFCLet's say a collection agency agreed to a lump sum of half of an ER bill. You dig deep and pay them $7,000 of the $14,000 you owed.Jan 23 07:42
DaemonFCAt the end of the year, you get a 1099-C that is the same as $7,000 of taxable income.Jan 23 07:42
DaemonFCThen in our case, this hypothetical form would cause us to owe $700 to the IRS and $346 to the State.Jan 23 07:43
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DaemonFCSo you're really going to pay a lot more than whatever you've settled for and your credit is still ruined.Jan 23 07:43
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DaemonFCThen there's tax planning.Jan 23 07:48
DaemonFCI got a bunch of class action settlements last year, but I won't this year.Jan 23 07:48
DaemonFCI don't think we'll owe much of anything this year. Maybe $100 for the whole year. It's the State that really hurts.Jan 23 07:48
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schestowitz-piDaemonFC: sounds like you were permanently injuredJan 23 07:51
schestowitz-piand you will receive only insultsJan 23 07:51
schestowitz-piif you moan about thatJan 23 07:51
DaemonFCYeah, from both sides.Jan 23 07:51
DaemonFCMy mom is full of I told you so.Jan 23 07:51
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> In England, Over a Million People Admitted to Hospital With COVID-19 and Now the Government Shuts Down the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Dashboard https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2024/01/23/goodbye-to-coronavirus-covid-19-dashboard/Jan 23 07:51
DaemonFCShe's never any help. She just takes shots from the cheap seats and then tells me I'm the source of all of my marital issues too whenever things are not good in the house.Jan 23 07:52
DaemonFCShe's really bitter that all of her own marriages were much, much worse.Jan 23 07:52
schestowitz-pimakes sense thenJan 23 07:53
schestowitz-piprojecting guiltJan 23 07:53
DaemonFCShe can't stand it whenever things are going good, so she jumps in Mandy's corner and tells me I'm the big stupid asshole who doesn't know anything. Like today she tried to demand that I go down and sign a gym contract with a place that is notorious for suing people who try to leave.Jan 23 07:53
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schestowitz-piwork contract?Jan 23 07:54
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DaemonFCNo, a contract to use a gym.Jan 23 07:54
schestowitz-piwhat for?Jan 23 07:55
schestowitz-pithe superspreaders?>Jan 23 07:55
schestowitz-piwe started going to a local poolJan 23 07:55
DaemonFCIt's written so it follows you around like a gypsy curse and it's easier to just pay and pay even if you don't use it than get turned over for collection.Jan 23 07:55
schestowitz-piit is very sparsely populatedJan 23 07:55
schestowitz-pieven the changing roomJan 23 07:55
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schestowitz-piusuually it it just youJan 23 07:55
schestowitz-piit can be cheaper to also exercise at home or outdoors, without much contact with people and thugsJan 23 07:56
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: You know how idiots are.Jan 23 07:56
DaemonFCWrestle with a pig in the mud.Jan 23 07:56
schestowitz-pior men who tell you in the jacuzzi, "do you wana   blow job?"Jan 23 07:56
DaemonFCDoesn't matter how many times you tell them "I looked into it. This is what happens if you sign the contract."Jan 23 07:56
DaemonFCThey know more than you do because they saw a Planet Fitness commercial once.Jan 23 07:56
DaemonFCSo he's over there, doesn't know how to file an income tax return, doesn't know how to use online banking, thinks savings bonds are "a scam that will lose all my money", and so of course he knows how a gym contract is structured.Jan 23 07:58
schestowitz-pii talked to rianner about it last wekJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-piabout those contractsJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-piwhat what t he edge cases areJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-pilike if uyou are on holiday, they still charge youJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-pior if you leave early Jan 23 07:59
schestowitz-pihappened to my friend's partnerJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-piat best you can "freeze" itJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-piand there are still feesJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-piit's not frozenJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-piso any change of mindJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-pideath in the familyJan 23 07:59
schestowitz-pilong absenceJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-pilayoffsJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-pithat will work in their favourJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-pithey get money for nothingJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-piyou use no water/faciliitiesJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-piand t hey keep clawing in moneyJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-pifrom the bank accountJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-piif you paif upfront, forget about partial refundJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-pithis concept does not exist to themJan 23 08:00
schestowitz-pior direct debitJan 23 08:01
DaemonFCMandy has a sharp mind for contract law, knows all the ins and outs. Has Planet Fitness right where he wants them. It's me who is stupid, you know.Jan 23 08:01
schestowitz-piyou might be able to block itJan 23 08:01
DaemonFCI've only been in America forever and know what a scam is and what one isn't.Jan 23 08:01
schestowitz-pibut i forgot what happened to my friend when he tried itJan 23 08:01
DaemonFCMore things are scams here than not.Jan 23 08:01
schestowitz-pihis partner never went to the gymJan 23 08:01
schestowitz-piso forced to pay for nothingJan 23 08:01
schestowitz-pialso, if you dieJan 23 08:01
schestowitz-pieven then, don't expect refundsJan 23 08:01
schestowitz-pi"your fault for dyingJan 23 08:01
schestowitz-piWhy would you need Planet Fitness ?Jan 23 08:02
schestowitz-pitreadmills?Jan 23 08:02
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: They want you to put your bank account on the stupid thing so they can just keep TAKING AND TAKING, and people who CLOSE THEIR BANK ACCOUNT to make it stop end up with Planet Fitness after them.Jan 23 08:03
DaemonFCDon't even go there.Jan 23 08:03
DaemonFCDon't sign anything.Jan 23 08:03
schestowitz-pirightJan 23 08:03
DaemonFCIf you want to walk, go to the park.Jan 23 08:03
schestowitz-pii learned from my friendJan 23 08:03
schestowitz-pithey can get aggressiveJan 23 08:03
schestowitz-pianother friend alsoJan 23 08:03
schestowitz-pii forgot the detailsJan 23 08:03
schestowitz-pibut the manager got laid off after that, I thinkJan 23 08:03
schestowitz-pishe provoked my friendJan 23 08:03
schestowitz-piover moneyJan 23 08:04
schestowitz-pisomething about "double charging"Jan 23 08:04
schestowitz-piaffter the gym itself failed to chargeJan 23 08:04
schestowitz-piand they tried to blame it on himJan 23 08:04
schestowitz-pi[08:03] <DaemonFC> If you want to walk, go to the park.Jan 23 08:05
schestowitz-piwalk in the park does not "count"Jan 23 08:05
schestowitz-pilike cooking your meal is not "good"Jan 23 08:05
schestowitz-piit's not "class"Jan 23 08:05
schestowitz-pinot "eating out"Jan 23 08:05
schestowitz-piit's not even food !!Jan 23 08:05
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I'm tempted to just call Mandy's bluff and buy a treadmill from Walmart and stick it in the corner and say "Get walking." at least this way when he doesn't use it my asshole won't hurt as much because I'll only be out $400.Jan 23 08:06
DaemonFCWho is stupid enough to sign a contract where it will never stop so they can go walk on someone elses treadmill if they drive over to the other side of town first?Jan 23 08:08
DaemonFCMy mom doesn't even go to the gym and she's telling me she eats a diet of red meat and butter in her coffee (sticks of butter) for health reasons.Jan 23 08:09
DaemonFCAnd how it's so healthy it'll raise someone who just died at the nursing home and take 50 years off of them.Jan 23 08:10
DaemonFCThis is not the person you take life advice from.Jan 23 08:11
DaemonFCShe is in trouble with the IRS almost every year.Jan 23 08:11
DaemonFCEnded up with not one but two ex husbands who got the house and refused to take her name off the mortgage, despite being ordered to do so, at the same time.Jan 23 08:11
DaemonFCAnd ended up in bankruptcy.Jan 23 08:11
DaemonFCShe's such a disaster on her finances that I'm worried that they might work blood corruption on me even though it's not constitutional.Jan 23 08:12
DaemonFC:PJan 23 08:12
DaemonFCMy dad still goes on and on about how no matter how much money he made, she'd get ahold of it and blow it on something stupid.Jan 23 08:13
DaemonFCYou know it is sad that she got him so bad that he can't get over it 25 years later.Jan 23 08:13
DaemonFCMom says he needs to get over it and get on with his life.Jan 23 08:14
DaemonFCWell, I mean, on an emotional level, sure.Jan 23 08:14
DaemonFCWhat's done is done.Jan 23 08:14
DaemonFCHe already fucked up by marrying her and never gets to stop paying for it, and half of what he thought he would retire on ended up remodeling Gonad the Barbarian's house, only for her to lose it in the divorce and be pushed into bankruptcy over it. Why did that house have a mortgage? It had two. It's because Brian drank like a fish and smoked 3 packs a day, and because my mom could get a million dollars every day and still go bust.Jan 23 08:15
techrights-sec2wirj schestowitz-pi: I'm tempted to just call Mandy's bluff and buy a treadmill from Walmart and stick it in the corner and say "Get walking." at least this way when he doesn't use it my asshole won't hurt as much because I'll only be out $400.Jan 23 08:16
techrights-sec2treadmills are a boreJan 23 08:16
techrights-sec2andf a gimmickJan 23 08:16
DaemonFCYeah, but it's to make a point.Jan 23 08:16
DaemonFC"You wanted a fucking treadmill, enjoy tripping over it."Jan 23 08:16
schestowitz-pi[08:09] <DaemonFC> My mom doesn't even go to the gym and she's telling me she eats a diet of red meat and butter in her coffee (sticks of butter) for health reasons.Jan 23 08:17
schestowitz-pihealth?Jan 23 08:17
schestowitz-piit's like daveJan 23 08:17
DaemonFCYESJan 23 08:17
schestowitz-piwith his frostingJan 23 08:17
schestowitz-pior whateverJan 23 08:17
schestowitz-pithat very sweet coatingJan 23 08:17
schestowitz-pior beear and salty foodsJan 23 08:17
DaemonFCShe is delirious and completely obsessed with "Carnivore Diet". Whatever the fuck that is.Jan 23 08:17
schestowitz-piyou can see where you gets her health advice fromJan 23 08:17
DaemonFCIt sounds crazy because it is crazy.Jan 23 08:17
schestowitz-pifrom jesus and man who pound herJan 23 08:17
schestowitz-pi*menJan 23 08:17
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: She takes "Sovereign Silver".Jan 23 08:17
schestowitz-pilol!Jan 23 08:18
DaemonFCAnd when she gets the flu or pneumonia or something every month because it works so well, she buys and drinks more.Jan 23 08:18
DaemonFCWhile also asking for antibiotics because the silver works.Jan 23 08:18
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I might not be much, but look at what I came out of.Jan 23 08:19
DaemonFCThis is like some horrible comedy hour that won't end.Jan 23 08:19
DaemonFCWhere all you can do is listen to her and not say anything and think "What the fuck is happening to my mother? What the fuck is happening to my mother?"Jan 23 08:19
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: She's on antibiotics so much they barely even work anymore.Jan 23 08:20
DaemonFCPneumonia vaccines "are a conspiracy" and the "flu shot doesn't work, I took that once and I got the flu".Jan 23 08:21
DaemonFC"I go to a church where if I grow my hair out I can cast demons out of people."Jan 23 08:21
DaemonFC"I go to Walmart and they ask if I'm a good witch....or a bad witch. And I tell them, witchcraft is evil. You need to go to my church."Jan 23 08:22
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: Her magical power is that if you go near her you'll get whatever she currently has and then spend the next month in bed dying while you ask the doctors to help you.Jan 23 08:23
DaemonFCThey need a leper colony just for her, to keep her away from the lepers. They're already too sick without being near her.Jan 23 08:24
DaemonFC[1/23/24 2:17 am] <schestowitz-pi> or beear and salty foodsJan 23 08:25
DaemonFCBear and salty foods was Gonad.Jan 23 08:25
DaemonFCThat and three packs of Kool per day.Jan 23 08:25
techrights-sec2did he die happyJan 23 08:26
techrights-sec2with "bear" (sic) in bed?Jan 23 08:26
DaemonFCThere are some men who smoke a pack a day, some that smoke two. She ran right past all of those and went for the carton a day people.Jan 23 08:26
DaemonFC*beerJan 23 08:26
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: She tells me it's pathetic to complain about my spouse to my mother, expecting to just commiserate a bit and be reassured about life you know, like any good and proper mother would allow her son every now and then....but nooooooo. We have to ignore, I suppose, that she ended up living with my Grandmother twice because of Brian and Dave. Dave was so bad that it sent her to live with Grandma even though Grandma was sixty miles from where Jan 23 08:28
DaemonFCmy mother worked at.Jan 23 08:28
DaemonFCThe reason the silver Impala has over 300,000 miles on it right now is because mom had to drive 120 miles round trip to work for so long while the divorce from Dave slugged on and on.Jan 23 08:29
DaemonFCWhile the IRS slapped a lien on the car, you know.Jan 23 08:30
DaemonFCAnd was threatening her through my Grandmother's mailbox.Jan 23 08:30
DaemonFC[1/23/24 2:26 am] <techrights-sec2> with "bear" (sic) in bed?Jan 23 08:31
DaemonFCWell, ignore my misspelling there. Influenced by schestowitz-pi.Jan 23 08:31
DaemonFCBut yeah, I suppose you could call his seventh (and fifth) wife a bear.Jan 23 08:31
DaemonFCLarge and hairy.Jan 23 08:31
DaemonFCHe had seven wives. In 59.5 years.Jan 23 08:32
DaemonFCAnd one of them twice.Jan 23 08:32
DaemonFC5/7 spent the duration of his marriage to my mother hiding in trailers from warrants for writing fake checks and collecting for a baby with cancer that didn't exist.Jan 23 08:33
DaemonFCAnd then married Brian again.Jan 23 08:33
DaemonFCYeehaw.Jan 23 08:33
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DaemonFCWhat brought about the divorce was that Brian's daughter had a son when she was 14, and Brian took custody of the kid, and the kid was just Satan incarnate.Jan 23 08:34
DaemonFCAnd one of the worse things he did was when he was 12 he went back to his mother's house for a weekend and molested his own sisters.Jan 23 08:34
DaemonFCSo the State of Indiana had something to say about that, and Brian said that "Their hymens were intact so it wasn't really rape."Jan 23 08:35
DaemonFCIs this Game of Thrones?Jan 23 08:35
DaemonFCAnyway, then Brian spake, "He'll be coming back here to live with us when he gets out of juvie." and that's where my mother called it. Kind of. She said, "Oh no he won't!" but then it was Brian who filed for divorce. And then he spake, "But I just wanted to get your attention!" and she replied, "Well you have it." and gave him the divorce.Jan 23 08:36
DaemonFCDuring the time I lived with mother and Brian, he would come hom drunk and beat me, so I ended up living in my car for a couple of months.Jan 23 08:37
DaemonFCTaking showers where I could get them, at trucker rest stops, and eating whatever I could get at a cheap diner or something, until I could put down on an apartment.Jan 23 08:37
schestowitz-piat least he did not cook your catsJan 23 08:39
schestowitz-piand sexually molested youJan 23 08:39
schestowitz-pior gave you to pedosJan 23 08:39
schestowitz-pithat's tondoJan 23 08:39
DaemonFCTrue.Jan 23 08:39
DaemonFCBut his grandson tried to get out of trouble with the police by saying things that were untrue about me.Jan 23 08:39
DaemonFCBut the detectives continued interviewing him and he couldn't keep his lies straight.Jan 23 08:40
DaemonFCSo they never went anywhere with that.Jan 23 08:40
DaemonFCMom told me what was going on and I said something like "Oh Jesus, mom, couldn't you have just stayed with dad and glued your high heels together?"Jan 23 08:41
DaemonFCThen she smacked me for being upset that the stepdad who beat me who had the incest rape family was trying to get me in deep shit with the cops to throw the focus off of him.Jan 23 08:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I called that family "The Hills Have Eyes".Jan 23 08:43
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schestowitz-pimaybe RMSWasRight about parentsJan 23 08:43
DaemonFCI said, "Fuckers probably are cannibals and we'll just find that out in the next season or something."Jan 23 08:43
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I should be interviewed by that woman.Jan 23 08:44
DaemonFCThat was doing the video with RMS.Jan 23 08:44
schestowitz-pimail herJan 23 08:44
schestowitz-pihttps://www.exploringantinatalism.com/crew/Jan 23 08:44
DaemonFCAbout the horrific family stories I have and the bad life I had because someone decided to create me as a vanity project and called it halfway in and did the bare minimum to not get CPS after them.Jan 23 08:45
DaemonFCRMS's story about his mother was pretty mild.Jan 23 08:45
DaemonFCI will never reach a point where we're okay.Jan 23 08:45
schestowitz-pi"film-maker & sculptor residing in Chicago"Jan 23 08:46
DaemonFCShe's done so much that I will never stop being mad about, and she has absolutely no plans to make a reconciliatory overture. All she wants to do is warm a bench at church and go "GOD FORGIVES ME! I'M COMING HEAVEN!"Jan 23 08:46
schestowitz-pihttps://www.youtube.com/user/ForeverWolfFilmsJan 23 08:46
schestowitz-pilooks like Google banned her?Jan 23 08:46
DaemonFCIt's so much worse than RMS's relationship with his parents, whatever it was.Jan 23 08:47
DaemonFCThen when she does go (from the red meat, butter, silver, and respiratory illness of the month) she will lob my unemployed disabled brother on me like a grenade.Jan 23 08:48
DaemonFCAnd expect me to do something to take care of him, after she leaves me with nothing but winding down her estate (debt) and burying her (more debt).Jan 23 08:48
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: And you wonder why I've been on the brink of suicide?Jan 23 08:49
DaemonFCOh, I could go on and on and on and on about my parents, the life that they threw me out into the world to have.Jan 23 08:49
DaemonFCAnd what the people I've encountered have done to me.Jan 23 08:49
DaemonFCAnd it really feels like salt in the wound when the only person left in my life hits me for taking his phone away for a minute and saying "Aren't you going to spend any time with me today? Can I have a hug?"Jan 23 08:51
schestowitz-pi"phones"Jan 23 08:51
schestowitz-pithey are not even phonesJan 23 08:51
DaemonFCI have to put up with it. What are my other choices?Jan 23 08:51
schestowitz-pipeople use them to hide what they areJan 23 08:51
DaemonFCI don't have anywhere else to go.Jan 23 08:51
schestowitz-piface in deviceJan 23 08:52
DaemonFCIf the cops came here, they could haul me away even though I never do anything in return.Jan 23 08:52
schestowitz-piseems the system failed you, tooJan 23 08:52
schestowitz-pimany people experience this right nowJan 23 08:52
DaemonFCIf they hauled him away, I'd lose my apartment.Jan 23 08:52
schestowitz-pinot just in usJan 23 08:52
schestowitz-pialso ukJan 23 08:52
schestowitz-pipeople who choose between eat and hearJan 23 08:52
schestowitz-pi*heatJan 23 08:52
schestowitz-piit's a real thing this yearJan 23 08:52
schestowitz-pimandy probably has an empty lifeJan 23 08:53
schestowitz-pior thinks he doesJan 23 08:53
schestowitz-pitoo much "hpone"Jan 23 08:53
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: My therapist says just give him a wide berth and ignore him.Jan 23 08:53
schestowitz-piticktok you seeJan 23 08:53
schestowitz-pitiktok is a weap09onJan 23 08:53
schestowitz-piand harms relationship, mental health etcJan 23 08:53
DaemonFCYeah, I told him "What is wrong with you? You have every comfort and you act like you;re going to pack your things and throw on your coat and walk out into the cold.Jan 23 08:53
DaemonFC"I can't stop you but I can tell you that you walk out the door, you are cut off."Jan 23 08:54
schestowitz-pi they see better life in FBJan 23 08:54
schestowitz-piand tiktokJan 23 08:54
schestowitz-pipeople go placesJan 23 08:54
schestowitz-pitake selfieJan 23 08:54
schestowitz-pito cause envyJan 23 08:54
schestowitz-piand that then gets promoted by the companuiesJan 23 08:54
schestowitz-pibuy "x" to be like these "friends';Jan 23 08:54
schestowitz-piinseucity-based salesmanshipJan 23 08:55
DaemonFCI'm not married to a person. I'm married to a iPhone zombie.Jan 23 08:55
schestowitz-pinoJan 23 08:55
DaemonFCI've seen people have reactions like that to being cut off from alcohol or drugs.Jan 23 08:55
schestowitz-piyou are marriedJan 23 08:55
schestowitz-piand the person you mareried is seeing someone elseJan 23 08:56
schestowitz-pilike zuckerberg and pooh-tinJan 23 08:56
schestowitz-pithey control how he views "the world"Jan 23 08:56
schestowitz-piso the solution is obviousJan 23 08:56
schestowitz-pialso his colleageues sound like dicksJan 23 08:56
DaemonFCHe's always in there singing to people in the Philippines. And he talks in bizarre voices in a microphone.Jan 23 08:56
DaemonFCThis is sickening to watch.Jan 23 08:56
DaemonFCHe's in a room with the lights off talking in weird voices to people on Twitter.Jan 23 08:57
schestowitz-pitwitter?Jan 23 08:57
schestowitz-pivoice?Jan 23 08:57
schestowitz-piwhat did musk do?Jan 23 08:57
DaemonFCIt's some sort of group chat thing.Jan 23 08:57
schestowitz-piseems like flashbackJan 23 08:58
schestowitz-pilet me check archives...Jan 23 08:58
schestowitz-pihang onJan 23 08:58
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: So, get this.Jan 23 08:58
DaemonFCI may have to have a surgeon cut into my shoulder and remove calcium lumps with a scalpal.Jan 23 08:59
DaemonFC*scalpel Jan 23 08:59
DaemonFCAnd I already know what Mandy will do.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I don't know that I can go on very much longer.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Things are getting pretty bad here.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Mandy says he doesn't want anything to do with me and he regrets marrying me and he wants to go back to the Philippines.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I'm probably not going to be around much longer. I don't think I want to be.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> tell him things have gotten worse thereJan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> good prices etc.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> That's his problem.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> *foodJan 23 08:59
DaemonFCHuff and puff and complain he has to be with me at the doctor.Jan 23 08:59
schestowitz-pimarcUS ruined the countruJan 23 08:59
schestowitz-piafetyr duterte had startedJan 23 08:59
DaemonFCI never complained when I had to be with him over the surgery on his eardrum that I arranged.Jan 23 09:00
schestowitz-piyou know the foosd price and salary thereJan 23 09:00
schestowitz-piit's like 5 dollar a day in the provinceJan 23 09:00
DaemonFCHe never thanked me for not being deaf on the right side.Jan 23 09:00
schestowitz-piso maybe you can just feed yourself with the salayJan 23 09:00
schestowitz-piand find some sheets of metal down the beachJan 23 09:00
schestowitz-pito make a shackJan 23 09:00
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: If he does leave me he'll regret doing that.Jan 23 09:00
schestowitz-piand some used clothes sold by the kilogramJan 23 09:00
DaemonFCI'm not going to say this to him.Jan 23 09:00
DaemonFCBut if he's not with me I'll make sure that I bail on his continuing residency here.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> If he really feels that way about me.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> hopefully just mood swingJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I've protected him from so much. I've done so much nasty shit for him.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> tell him everyone stuggles right nowJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> globallyJan 23 09:01
DaemonFCSo he'll find out whatever is going on over there eventually when he can't do anything in America anymore.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> he has foods and no shells falling on his cityJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> he's stressed by his jobJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> probably does not tell you how bad it really is thereJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> matt turned cyberterroristJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> lost everythingJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Yeah.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> So have I.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I've lost everything.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> you have running waterJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> you don't depend on coke to not kill yourselfJan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Not for much longer.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Mandy wants to leave because he hates me.Jan 23 09:01
schestowitz-pii think this was a year agoJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pibut you survived thisJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-piand went on okJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-piso manybe another year to drag onJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pibut get rid of the skinnerboxJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pinot sure howJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-piwhen i met rianne she only had a featurephoneJan 23 09:02
DaemonFCI can't.Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-piand was not a "zombie"Jan 23 09:02
DaemonFCHe'll fucking murder me and that's not an exaggeration. Taking it out of his hand for 1 second gets you beaten.Jan 23 09:02
DaemonFCWith whatever he can pick up.Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> remember: it's all relativeJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I have two parents that hate me and troll me.Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> we are without income, but happyJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> What else do I have?Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> community, blog, lifeJan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> rianne says, "sit down and talk"Jan 23 09:02
DaemonFCPowerless to do anything because the police will take you.Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> "go outside"Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> He doesn't talk to me. He hits me and throws me across the room and threatens to call the police to get rid of me.Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Like John.Jan 23 09:02
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> He knows what scares me.Jan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> It's about control.Jan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I've considered just killing myself and strapping a sign that says I'm an organ donor on me.Jan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> At least I'd have the last word.Jan 23 09:03
schestowitz-piit was worse a year agoJan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pii still think.,Jan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pibest course of action is distanceJan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pilike cornerJan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pilike the clintons sleeping in 2 separate bedroomsJan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pinot sure if the fust then settles only temporarilyJan 23 09:03
DaemonFCThat's what Holly says too.Jan 23 09:03
schestowitz-pibut it is worth tryingJan 23 09:03
schestowitz-piwho is holly?Jan 23 09:04
schestowitz-pitghe therapist?Jan 23 09:04
schestowitz-pithe-rapistJan 23 09:04
DaemonFCYeah.Jan 23 09:04
schestowitz-pithe rapists know bestJan 23 09:04
schestowitz-pitherapists know bestJan 23 09:04
DaemonFCHolly says just leave it alone.Jan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pithis is deja vuJan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> no, don't do thatJan 23 09:05
DaemonFCLet him do whatever he wants in there.Jan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> At least a few people who drove me to this would have to sit there and think about it.Jan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> maybe he's venting due to work stressJan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I don't deserve this.Jan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> that's lifeJan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> for allJan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Anyway, Matt GULAG. He's so crazy he actually might kill other people before himself.Jan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Someone needs to act on him before it's too late.Jan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I'd depressed, I'm not enraged.Jan 23 09:05
schestowitz-piso it seems you realise gulagboy has it worserJan 23 09:05
schestowitz-piwith abusive, violent spouseJan 23 09:05
schestowitz-pion testosteroneJan 23 09:05
DaemonFCOh, I'm just living with a petulant manchild.Jan 23 09:06
DaemonFCIt's not worse than Brian.Jan 23 09:06
schestowitz-piright, so keep distanceJan 23 09:06
schestowitz-pi,maybe something will happenJan 23 09:06
schestowitz-pisome eureka momentJan 23 09:06
DaemonFCIt's not worse than my ex that beat me to a pulp and goes on trial next month.Jan 23 09:06
DaemonFCFinally.Jan 23 09:06
schestowitz-pilike some friend diesJan 23 09:06
schestowitz-piand then they realise how lucky they are to be alive/healthyJan 23 09:06
DaemonFCMandy got really bad after his brother died.Jan 23 09:06
schestowitz-pibut with skinnerbox his experiences are remoately controlledJan 23 09:06
DaemonFCHe realizes that there's nothing to go back to now.Jan 23 09:06
schestowitz-piand delivered to augement dependencyJan 23 09:07
DaemonFCHe's always sort of gotten by because other people around him did the adult stuff.Jan 23 09:07
DaemonFCEven when those people are fucking crooked as hell, like his sister.Jan 23 09:07
schestowitz-piwow, brother died?Jan 23 09:07
DaemonFCYeah.Jan 23 09:07
schestowitz-pisame age as parents?Jan 23 09:07
DaemonFCYounger.Jan 23 09:07
DaemonFCHe was like 46.Jan 23 09:07
schestowitz-piwhy dead?Jan 23 09:07
DaemonFCHe never told me.Jan 23 09:08
schestowitz-pimaybe for a reasonJan 23 09:08
schestowitz-piit's embarassingJan 23 09:08
DaemonFCHe just said someone in the Philippines told him.Jan 23 09:08
schestowitz-piway to find outJan 23 09:08
schestowitz-piin FBJan 23 09:08
schestowitz-pi"oh, btw, your bro died last month"Jan 23 09:08
DaemonFCHis brother wasn't much better to him than MARISOL.Jan 23 09:08
DaemonFCWorked Mandy on a farm while barely feeding him.Jan 23 09:09
DaemonFCMandy was rated by the doctor as "obese" at the hospital during the eardrum surgery.Jan 23 09:09
schestowitz-pihuh?Jan 23 09:09
DaemonFCThat really made him mad. I said, "Oh I'm sorry, didn't you say I was starving you?"Jan 23 09:09
schestowitz-piwhat height/weight?Jan 23 09:09
schestowitz-pibmi is like thisJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-pibutJan 23 09:10
DaemonFCHe got mad because I wouldn't give him money to eat at work, because he wasn't eating. He was buying shit we didn't need and then saying "I'm hungry."Jan 23 09:10
schestowitz-piunless his body type is all musclesJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-pihe may be obeseJan 23 09:10
DaemonFCLike 5'9 176 pounds I think.Jan 23 09:10
schestowitz-pii am almost 100kg and 6 feetJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-pibut not fatJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-pidoes not sound like obesityJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-pimaybe he eats poorlyJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-piand looks like pinoy farmersJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-piwith roung big bellyJan 23 09:10
schestowitz-piand small arms and legsJan 23 09:11
DaemonFCHe's made because he's put on two stone since arriving in the US.Jan 23 09:11
DaemonFCWell, if your brother isn't feeding you that much....Jan 23 09:11
DaemonFC*madJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> isolattte for a bit with the PCJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> till the partner cools downJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> maybe he's coping with imminent loss of jobJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> nothing can "fix" thatJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> in his culture, being out of work is a VERY big dealJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I don't think it's imminent job loss.Jan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I just think they're fucking with people.Jan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> If they wanted to be nasty and get rid of him, they'd just cut most of his hours or all of his shifts would disappear.Jan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I think there's light at the end of this tunnel, for his job, they're just putting some people through discomfort and seeing how many quit until there's a set number of people who work there.Jan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pihe still has his jobJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-piyou have a roodJan 23 09:11
schestowitz-pi*roof Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-piincome Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-piso it didn't get much worseJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pijust did not improve, i guessJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pino more piles of airpodsJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> yes, we leftJan 23 09:12
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I read the situation correctly.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> it was already getting bad anywayJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> for me it was liberationJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> for rianne it was harderJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I'm not really frightened as far as the hours he has now.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> It just means we won't pay federal income taxes.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> He's always angry about the car.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> He always yells at me for trying to fix the problem of the month.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Well, it's old. It wasn't well taken care of. It's amazing it even still runs at all.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> yeahJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I've heard of people who buy a brand new Chevy. Brand new. Right after the warranty ends, the damn thing overheats once and it's finished.Jan 23 09:12
DaemonFCThey know that causing people who have kids and no money discomfort means they give up and leave.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> rianne says "it's a big deal" when he feels afraid at the jobJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> They don't build things right.Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> cultural thingJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Philippines thing?Jan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> "third world" maybeJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> food insecurityJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-piseems it was worse beforeJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-piand it get rolls over like trumbleweedJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pinothign resolvedJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-pilike many old couplesJan 23 09:12
schestowitz-piwho cannot AFFORD to separateJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Eh, failure is more uncomfortable there.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> No food stamps, no unemployment income, no bankruptcy courts.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> If you become unemployed in the US, you're not literally going to be out on your ass with debts you can't get rid of tomorrow with nothing to eat. Probably.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> He didn't even understand what I meant when I said I was filing bankruptcy.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I asked him, "Well what do you do in the Philippines when you have a lot of people you can't pay?". He goes, "Move out into the province."Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I downloaded OpenSUSE Leap.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> I'm going to spin up my old laptop and give it a try.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Red Hat is becoming more and more like Oracle.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> The old corporate culture of Red Hat is dead.Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> it isJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> brbJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> sorry, posting linksJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pifrom what I can tell,Jan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi1) a year passJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi2) you are togetherJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi3) things did not get worseJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pi4) things did not get betterJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pithe options for you are, worseJan 23 09:13
schestowitz-pithe options for him are, worseJan 23 09:14
schestowitz-pijust keep some distance/spaceJan 23 09:14
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: The glue that holds the marriage together is.......Jan 23 09:14
DaemonFCThe alternative is going from relative comfort to a disaster on both sides.Jan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pi"Jan 23 09:15
DaemonFCHooray!Jan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> He gets mad, he has an explosive temper, he says he wants to leave, and then he gets over it and goes back to "default".Jan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> It's like nothing ever happened.Jan 23 09:15
DaemonFCFIVE MORE YEARS! FIVE MORE YEARS!Jan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piyesJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piso keep a cornerJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pistay busyJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pii saw this before with some peopleJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pistay busyJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pitime will payJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pibtw, gulag is running out of timeJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piso he's manicJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pi"Jan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pifunny thing is,Jan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pii provbably know ytour better than your the-rapistJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piand maybe some family membersJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pibut not in person, directlyJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piand it seems like you are over-reacting a bitJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piand nothing got worseJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piunless he assaults youJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-piand it sounds like it stopped happeningJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pihis bro is deadJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pisis tosses platesJan 23 09:15
schestowitz-pichanges surnameJan 23 09:16
DaemonFCLOLJan 23 09:16
schestowitz-pilies about her employmentJan 23 09:16
schestowitz-pi[09:15] <DaemonFC> The alternative is going from relative comfort to a disaster on both sides.Jan 23 09:16
DaemonFC"What happened at the cancer hospital?" "Oh, I'm PRN now." (as needed)Jan 23 09:16
schestowitz-piyou have nowhere to goJan 23 09:16
schestowitz-picountries curb immigrationJan 23 09:16
schestowitz-piand your family is a box of netsJan 23 09:16
DaemonFCThat way she can tell people she's still there when she's really not.Jan 23 09:16
schestowitz-piso nowhere better to turnJan 23 09:16
schestowitz-piand don't think about jobs right nowJan 23 09:16
schestowitz-pisince i left my  job i did not even SEARCH jobsJan 23 09:17
schestowitz-pieven onceJan 23 09:17
schestowitz-pibecause,Jan 23 09:17
schestowitz-pieven IF I found something,Jan 23 09:17
schestowitz-piit would SUCKJan 23 09:17
schestowitz-pinot just the contract typeJan 23 09:17
schestowitz-pibut also the nature of the work and conditionsJan 23 09:17
schestowitz-piso the way things ar enow, you can buy foodJan 23 09:17
schestowitz-piand sometimes heat up the roomJan 23 09:17
schestowitz-piand your partner is not doing incest , rape, and heroinJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-piso keep what you haveJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-pibuy timeJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-pitake the laptopJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-pipick a cornerJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-pitype awayJan 23 09:18
DaemonFCYeah.Jan 23 09:18
schestowitz-piand time will do its thingJan 23 09:18
DaemonFCThat's basically what this is already.Jan 23 09:18
schestowitz-pifor both of youJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-piok, so keep at itJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-pimaybe do housework when it is seenJan 23 09:18
schestowitz-pinot when he is afk or away from skinnerboxJan 23 09:19
schestowitz-pithen it will "count"Jan 23 09:19
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: This is interesting.Jan 23 09:19
schestowitz-pieven without saying a thingJan 23 09:19
schestowitz-pijust doing itJan 23 09:19
DaemonFCThe movie theater doesn't even open now until 1 PM.Jan 23 09:19
schestowitz-piyerahJan 23 09:19
DaemonFCRemember when they were open all day?Jan 23 09:19
schestowitz-piold newsJan 23 09:19
schestowitz-pithey used to have showings at 11amJan 23 09:19
schestowitz-pibut that was 1990sJan 23 09:19
schestowitz-piusdually the kids' flicksJan 23 09:19
schestowitz-pilike beethovenJan 23 09:19
DaemonFCNo customers. Have to pay people another two hours if they're open.Jan 23 09:19
schestowitz-pimovies are an escape imhoJan 23 09:20
schestowitz-pilike gamingJan 23 09:20
schestowitz-pigaming can be fun thoughJan 23 09:20
DaemonFCIt's not like the 90s when you could have one guy working the tickets and concessions in the morning.Jan 23 09:20
DaemonFCIt's a crazy violent world full of nuts.Jan 23 09:20
schestowitz-pimovies are an excape evewn if upliftingJan 23 09:20
schestowitz-pior inspiringJan 23 09:20
DaemonFCSo if the theater is open, the police have to be there.Jan 23 09:20
schestowitz-piand they askJan 23 09:20
schestowitz-pi"you have the APP?"Jan 23 09:20
schestowitz-pilike BT did last nightJan 23 09:21
schestowitz-piand even the swimming poolJan 23 09:21
schestowitz-pi"NO I HAVE NO APPPP!!!!"Jan 23 09:21
schestowitz-pi"ME WANT SWIM"Jan 23 09:21
schestowitz-pi"me have cash"Jan 23 09:21
schestowitz-pi"oh, sorry, we no longer accept cash since COVID"Jan 23 09:21
schestowitz-pi(they say that)Jan 23 09:21
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I might just get some movie tickets todayJan 23 09:22
schestowitz-pion your own?Jan 23 09:23
schestowitz-piit's kind of pointless imhoJan 23 09:23
schestowitz-piunless you get membershipJan 23 09:23
schestowitz-pii got some at 17Jan 23 09:23
schestowitz-piand then watched the movies like 3-4 times a weekJan 23 09:23
schestowitz-piat the theatreJan 23 09:23
schestowitz-piit was very cheapJan 23 09:23
schestowitz-pii was a studentJan 23 09:23
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: It's like $6 a ticket.Jan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pithen i drove back homeJan 23 09:24
DaemonFCOn Tuesdays only.Jan 23 09:24
DaemonFCI might just make it a double feature.Jan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pii sort of miss those daysJan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pibut..Jan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pithose days are goneJan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pi1990sJan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pigood timesJan 23 09:24
DaemonFCMandy hates it when I do that but by the time he realizes we're not heading home it's too late.Jan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pieverything was going upJan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pinot just stock  marketsJan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pieverythingJan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pieven real salariesJan 23 09:24
schestowitz-pii had my carJan 23 09:24
DaemonFCThat's how it was here too.Jan 23 09:24
schestowitz-piand bought snacks at full priceJan 23 09:24
DaemonFCFelt like it wouldn't end, and then it did.Jan 23 09:25
schestowitz-pinot looking for discountsJan 23 09:25
DaemonFCAnd then it came crashing down.Jan 23 09:25
schestowitz-pinow i buy mostly discounted everythingJan 23 09:25
DaemonFCWhere did it go so wrong?Jan 23 09:25
schestowitz-pisoap, protein, food, decorJan 23 09:25
schestowitz-pieven second-hand PCsJan 23 09:25
schestowitz-pii did this before covid-19 alreadyJan 23 09:25
schestowitz-piyou could tell it was amiss in 2008 alreadyJan 23 09:26
DaemonFCLike. "We're America. You retire at 65 with plenty of money and a house and good healthcare. The food is great, the mall is always open, everyone has a decent job, and if you fuck with us we're gonna hurt you bad."Jan 23 09:26
schestowitz-pithe phone was... a phoneJan 23 09:26
schestowitz-pisomething you use maybe twice a dayJan 23 09:26
DaemonFCAnd then now it's like, one giant dumpster fire.Jan 23 09:26
schestowitz-pimaybe play "snakes" in teh bus stopJan 23 09:26
schestowitz-pibut that was itJan 23 09:26
schestowitz-piwhehn i was 15 we ran a companyJan 23 09:27
schestowitz-piand won an awardJan 23 09:27
schestowitz-piwe'd tour for business manufacturers and stuffJan 23 09:27
schestowitz-pihave meetingsJan 23 09:27
schestowitz-piin person, not over the NetJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-pinow... people get fired over zoom and stuffJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-piridicilousJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-piand some people on bikes deliver someone's pizza for themJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-pinot carJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-pibicycleJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-pibecause that's what workers can haveJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-pisome poor dudeJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-pifrom a country that pays $2 a dayJan 23 09:28
schestowitz-picycling with some nibble to your doorJan 23 09:29
schestowitz-pifor penniesJan 23 09:29
schestowitz-pi"gig economy"Jan 23 09:29
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: When I was 15 I already had two jobs.Jan 23 09:29
schestowitz-piif carlin was a live...Jan 23 09:29
schestowitz-piiirc, he died aroiund 2008Jan 23 09:29
DaemonFCI was delivering papers and writing articles.Jan 23 09:29
schestowitz-pididn't live to see the worst of what he called "the freak show":Jan 23 09:29
schestowitz-piat 15 i had babysat alreadyJan 23 09:29
schestowitz-piseveral families even Jan 23 09:29
schestowitz-pithe parents could affordJan 23 09:29
schestowitz-piand the pay was okJan 23 09:30
schestowitz-pii did this at nightJan 23 09:30
schestowitz-piso basically watch snookerJan 23 09:30
schestowitz-piwhile the kids sleepJan 23 09:30
schestowitz-piget paidJan 23 09:30
DaemonFCMy dad was interested in how I always had so much money and never asked for an allowance.Jan 23 09:30
schestowitz-pito watch tvJan 23 09:30
schestowitz-piand pick stuff from the fridgeJan 23 09:30
DaemonFCI felt it would have been beneath me to ask for money from my parents for doing nothing really.Jan 23 09:30
schestowitz-pi1995 ish, maybe 2994Jan 23 09:30
schestowitz-pi*1994Jan 23 09:30
schestowitz-pisome grandparents gave money to the kids and grandkidsJan 23 09:31
schestowitz-pibutJan 23 09:31
schestowitz-pithat was because they had abundanceJan 23 09:31
schestowitz-pinot sure it would work nowJan 23 09:31
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: Paper route was pretty easy.Jan 23 09:31
schestowitz-pinow they see inflationJan 23 09:31
schestowitz-piand it's like "whoa"... "I might die without money!"Jan 23 09:31
schestowitz-piparents could help fund collegeJan 23 09:32
schestowitz-pinow... doubtfulJan 23 09:32
schestowitz-pi"get a loan"Jan 23 09:32
schestowitz-piand then you get a loanJan 23 09:32
schestowitz-pimaybe get a degreeJan 23 09:32
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: You go to Walmart and get some bread and a salad and a couple boxes of shrimp and now you're basically creeping on $100.Jan 23 09:32
schestowitz-pithen what?Jan 23 09:32
DaemonFC"What inflation?"Jan 23 09:32
schestowitz-piyou need a job to pay back the loanJan 23 09:32
schestowitz-piso where would the motivation to study come from?>Jan 23 09:32
schestowitz-pistudy CSJan 23 09:32
schestowitz-piand then read about a million tech jobs lost in a yearJan 23 09:32
schestowitz-pi(it's worse than what media counts... e.g. contracting)Jan 23 09:32
DaemonFCThe IRS worrying about $600 income on a 1099 feels like Uncle Joe out beating up kids for their lunch money.Jan 23 09:33
DaemonFCYou know, it used to be a serious amount of money. It isn't now.Jan 23 09:33
schestowitz-piyesJan 23 09:33
schestowitz-pii saw itJan 23 09:33
schestowitz-pithey tax to hell people who make littleJan 23 09:33
schestowitz-pithe justifications are bizarreJan 23 09:33
schestowitz-piesp. with national insuranceJan 23 09:33
schestowitz-piso they tax heavily those who barely surviveJan 23 09:34
schestowitz-pithey call it "emergency tax code"Jan 23 09:34
schestowitz-pilessening the incentive to work at allJan 23 09:34
schestowitz-pirather than be "on the dole"Jan 23 09:34
techrights-sec2Anyway, the panel debate yesterday was plagued with 'technical difficulties'Jan 23 09:36
techrights-sec2including occasional lack of audio.  Jan 23 09:36
techrights-sec2        Jan 23 09:36
schestowitz-pi024/01/23/goodbye-to-coronavirus-covid-19-dashboard/Jan 23 09:36
schestowitz-piit is a hard technical taskJan 23 09:36
schestowitz-pieven if it was easy in the early 90sJan 23 09:36
schestowitz-pimaybe windows rebooted and didn't come backJan 23 09:36
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: When they start taxing you is about where the motivation to work stops.Jan 23 09:37
schestowitz-pii started refreshing rss at my end, i do this once a dayJan 23 09:37
schestowitz-pianything more than this would wrongly assume 2004 paceJan 23 09:37
DaemonFCIf you keep going the IRS and State start digging in and taking so much that it's not worth doing anymore.Jan 23 09:37
schestowitz-piyesJan 23 09:38
schestowitz-pithe more you work, the less you earnJan 23 09:38
schestowitz-pihours 1-20 may xJan 23 09:38
schestowitz-pi20-25 x-yJan 23 09:38
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I file returns of course, but we usually owe between $40-300 income tax at federal level for the entire year.Jan 23 09:38
schestowitz-pi25-23 x-y*2Jan 23 09:38
DaemonFCI mean, I always do it so that it's not much.Jan 23 09:38
DaemonFCBecause this government sucks and I hate it.Jan 23 09:38
DaemonFCIt's money that goes to a government 3,000 miles away so they can help invaders from somewhere else take what little I have.Jan 23 09:38
schestowitz-pibut when you become very rich theyt stop taxing youJan 23 09:39
schestowitz-pibecause youn can bribe the lawmakersJan 23 09:39
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: "Asians shouldn't be a model minority." Also Asians: "Most college educated. Least in trouble with the law."Jan 23 09:40
DaemonFCThe left says things like this because you can't have positive role models. That's why white and Asian people are horrible.Jan 23 09:40
DaemonFCAnd all the people who are burning the store down to take the TVs while their friend rapes a kid in the bathroom are "oppressed by systemic racism".Jan 23 09:41
DaemonFC:)Jan 23 09:41
DaemonFCI mean, if this was all white and Asian people, this country would be well adjusted with relatively few prisons and welfare basket cases.Jan 23 09:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: "We want you! ... To go to work every day, to pay taxes, so we can put illegal aliens who are here to commit crime and sponge off welfare at the Four Seasons."Jan 23 09:43
DaemonFC"And make you watch. From an apartment with mold and rotting wood."Jan 23 09:43
DaemonFC-The GovernmentJan 23 09:43
DaemonFC"Don't say we never gave you anything." *hands me a traffic ticket*Jan 23 09:44
*schestowitz-pi bacjkJan 23 09:46
schestowitz-piasian here means idnian and pakistani by defaultJan 23 09:47
schestowitz-pi*indiaJan 23 09:47
schestowitz-pibut Jan 23 09:47
schestowitz-piin the us it means something elseJan 23 09:47
schestowitz-pipeople here say "chinese"Jan 23 09:47
schestowitz-pithat means anywhere east asiaJan 23 09:47
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: anyway, we can chat moreJan 23 09:48
schestowitz-pitill you feel betterJan 23 09:48
schestowitz-pii think you are doing okJan 23 09:48
schestowitz-pitrust me, i saw worseJan 23 09:48
schestowitz-pieven hereJan 23 09:48
schestowitz-pii think my sister is dying to leave portlandJan 23 09:48
schestowitz-piit's not about moneyJan 23 09:48
DaemonFCI would be.Jan 23 09:48
schestowitz-pishe is afraid of people wqitn pistolJan 23 09:49
schestowitz-piin portlandJan 23 09:49
schestowitz-piand people escort from cars to buildingsJan 23 09:49
DaemonFCYeah, it's about the crime and no cops and legal drugs.Jan 23 09:49
schestowitz-pidue to crinmeJan 23 09:49
DaemonFCDemocrats.Jan 23 09:49
schestowitz-piit's like aparthid south africaJan 23 09:49
techrights-sec2Just got through today's batch, finally.  Jan 23 09:51
techrights-sec2There are a lot of Windoze TCO articles, many of which are about the Jan 23 09:51
techrights-sec2one Tietoevry incident which is ongoing.  Perhaps the power outageJan 23 09:51
techrights-sec2of the other day was also windoze tcoJan 23 09:51
techrights-sec2Yes, 10 and especially 20 years ago top quality articles were in abundanceJan 23 09:51
techrights-sec2and there were too many to even scan the headlines.Jan 23 09:51
schestowitz-pithank you, ANY news you can "scoop up" is worth 10 times more than 10 years agoiJan 23 09:51
schestowitz-pibecause you are looking for scrap in post-apocalyptic news  desertsJan 23 09:51
schestowitz-pinotice how dead "linux sites" are...Jan 23 09:51
schestowitz-pii mentioned only phoonix this morningJan 23 09:51
schestowitz-pibut could admonish othersJan 23 09:51
psydruidhttps://preply.com/en/blog/gen-z-american-emigration-trends-2023/Jan 23 09:52
psydruidsomething I got in my inbox some time agoJan 23 09:53
schestowitz-picheckingJan 23 09:53
schestowitz-pithe dude has no room for a mouse :-)Jan 23 09:54
schestowitz-pihard to get work doneJan 23 09:54
schestowitz-pi3.1/5Jan 23 09:54
schestowitz-piin favour of leavingJan 23 09:55
schestowitz-pialmost stronglyJan 23 09:55
schestowitz-pithey mostly look forJan 23 09:55
schestowitz-pi"Social programs"Jan 23 09:55
schestowitz-pi"universal healthcare"Jan 23 09:55
schestowitz-piI'd agree those are goodJan 23 09:55
schestowitz-pibut besieged by the private sectorJan 23 09:55
schestowitz-piesp. hereJan 23 09:55
schestowitz-pi59% cite gun violenceJan 23 09:56
schestowitz-pisometimes you can make an 'island'Jan 23 09:56
schestowitz-pibut that does not workJan 23 09:56
schestowitz-pionce you have water issuesJan 23 09:56
schestowitz-piinflationJan 23 09:56
schestowitz-pioutagesJan 23 09:56
schestowitz-piand crimeJan 23 09:56
schestowitz-piso your little bubble burstsJan 23 09:56
schestowitz-piunless you leave the country or areaJan 23 09:57
schestowitz-pileaving an area can be outside your financial meansJan 23 09:57
schestowitz-piof course the uk is imperfect, but we love it hereJan 23 09:58
schestowitz-piwe visit other placesJan 23 09:58
schestowitz-pithey are no betterJan 23 09:58
schestowitz-pieven from a tourist's eyeJan 23 09:58
schestowitz-piother cities in the uk also seem goodJan 23 09:58
schestowitz-pinot too extravegentJan 23 09:58
schestowitz-pibut people are polite and crime is not out of controlJan 23 09:58
psydruidI wonder if the US is even that interesting for Western Europeans anymoreJan 23 10:02
DaemonFCProbably not.Jan 23 10:13
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schestowitz-pipsydruid: different issue,Jan 23 10:48
schestowitz-pithe western european countries do not like, trust, or want americansJan 23 10:48
schestowitz-pisometimes not even as touristsJan 23 10:48
schestowitz-pithe dutch don't fancy british tourists eitherJan 23 10:48
schestowitz-pithe ones who go there, e.g. to smoke drugs, earned notoriety for troublemakingJan 23 10:48
schestowitz-pi    <li>Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-pi                                            <h5><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/22/atlassian_confluence_server_rce/">Atlassian Confluence Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-piServer RCE attacks underway from 600+ IPs</a></h5>Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-pi                                            <blockquote>Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-pi                                                <p> As of Sunday more than 11,000 instances remain exposed on the [Internet], and criminals are poundingJan 23 11:14
schestowitz-pithem with RCE attempts. </p>Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-pi                                            </blockquote>Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-pi                                        </li>Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-pi                                        Jan 23 11:14
schestowitz-piWindows TCO?Jan 23 11:14
DaemonFC[1/23/24 4:48 am] <schestowitz-pi> the western european countries do not like, trust, or want americansJan 23 11:25
DaemonFCThe only country my passport doesn't work in that a UK one does is Belarus.Jan 23 11:25
DaemonFCOtherwise, it's the same visa-free countries list.Jan 23 11:26
DaemonFCIt's countries like the Philippines where nobody trusts you to go home so visa-free passport countries are outright shitholes.Jan 23 11:26
DaemonFCThere's a thing that's "visa-like" kind of that very nearly always gets approved in the EU.Jan 23 11:28
DaemonFCBut that hits Canadians and the British too, iirc.Jan 23 11:28
DaemonFCAnd all it is, is basically an entry tax.Jan 23 11:28
DaemonFCSo it just makes it even more expensive to vacation and spend your money in decaying European countries.Jan 23 11:28
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: Europe is like the Democrats.Jan 23 11:33
DaemonFCThey raise taxes, and then they just can't help themselves.Jan 23 11:34
DaemonFCThey spend three times what the new tax is bringing in.Jan 23 11:34
DaemonFCSo they raise them again.Jan 23 11:34
DaemonFCSame deal.Jan 23 11:34
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Windows TCO Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Windows_TCO_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Windows_TCO_Leftovers.gmi ∎Jan 23 11:35
schestowitz-pi[11:33] <DaemonFC> schestowitz-pi: Europe is like the Democrats.Jan 23 11:36
schestowitz-pino, my sister expalined it betterJan 23 11:36
schestowitz-pithe us, a place where everything is "big"Jan 23 11:36
schestowitz-pibut "big" does not make people happyJan 23 11:36
schestowitz-pishe is not happyJan 23 11:36
schestowitz-pi[11:33] <DaemonFC> schestowitz-pi: Europe is like the Democrats.Jan 23 11:37
schestowitz-pino, listen to what rms saidJan 23 11:37
schestowitz-piabout european familiesJan 23 11:37
schestowitz-piand family unitsJan 23 11:37
schestowitz-piit's different way of thinkingJan 23 11:37
schestowitz-piin some countries, inc. france, people can be rudeJan 23 11:38
schestowitz-pieven very rudeJan 23 11:38
schestowitz-piand you need to shout-matchJan 23 11:38
schestowitz-pito get your wayJan 23 11:38
schestowitz-pilike some flea market in a poor countryJan 23 11:38
techrights-sec2I think it is windoze tco,Jan 23 11:40
techrights-sec2double-checkingJan 23 11:40
techrights-sec2https://confluence.atlassian.com/security/cve-2023-22527-rce-remote-code-execution-vulnerability-in-confluence-data-center-and-confluence-server-1333990Jan 23 11:40
techrights-sec2257.htmlJan 23 11:40
techrights-sec2looks like itJan 23 11:40
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schestowitz-piwhich part of that page refers to a Windows "tech"?Jan 23 11:43
schestowitz-pii cannot locate a hintJan 23 11:43
schestowitz-pimaybe it is intentionally vagueJan 23 11:43
DaemonFCWhat do you mean "Big"?Jan 23 11:46
DaemonFCLike a Costco or something?Jan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pii asked the sameJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pisomethinjg about,Jan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pisize of foodJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pistores Jan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pimallsJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-piall jumboJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pijumbo burgerJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pimega-storesJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-piand buildingsJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-pibut in reality size does not mean happinessJan 23 11:46
schestowitz-piit's sometimes making things worseJan 23 11:47
schestowitz-pilike more walking around the storeJan 23 11:47
schestowitz-pior more cholesterol in the mealJan 23 11:47
schestowitz-pithink ofJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-pithe ol' lady who buys and buysJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-piunopened amazon shitJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-piversusJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-pithe lady who gives away thingsJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-piminimalismJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-pito keep things simplerJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-pione is wasting away moneyJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-piand the "things" collect dustJan 23 11:48
schestowitz-pithe other can sew and talk on the phone or drinlk teaJan 23 11:49
schestowitz-piwho is happier?Jan 23 11:49
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: Well, I spend money sometimes if it's a thing I want.Jan 23 11:50
DaemonFCOr something that will be better in the end.Jan 23 11:50
DaemonFCLike a toothbrush that costs more but gets rid of more plaque. Okay. I haven't had dental insurance in 22 years.Jan 23 11:51
DaemonFCFillings are expensive.Jan 23 11:51
DaemonFCAnd fillings are considered "minor" and they cost $500-700 sometimes without insurance.Jan 23 11:51
DaemonFCSo you can definitely go "too cheap" on your brush, miss a bunch of plaque, and then pay the dentist to fix everything.Jan 23 11:52
DaemonFC(and send his children to Harvard)Jan 23 11:52
DaemonFCOr you can just use a better toothbrush.Jan 23 11:52
techrights-sec2DaemonFC: dllJan 23 11:53
techrights-sec2They are apparently intentionally vague but you can skim for DLL or .EXEJan 23 11:53
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schestowitz-piif you mean: Jan 23 11:54
schestowitz-pihttps://confluence.atlassian.com/security/local-privilege-escalation-via-dll-hijack-in-confluence-server-on-windows-installations-1063567712.htmlJan 23 11:54
schestowitz-pion the sidebarJan 23 11:54
schestowitz-pithat is not the sameJan 23 11:54
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: i never had fillingsJan 23 11:55
schestowitz-pione day i will, for sureJan 23 11:55
schestowitz-piunless i die youngJan 23 11:55
schestowitz-pibut toothcare or dental care is not expensiveJan 23 11:55
schestowitz-piand you can do ok with brushesJan 23 11:55
schestowitz-pifor over 20 yearsi have used 2 or 3 brushes in tandemJan 23 11:55
schestowitz-piput aside this example thoughJan 23 11:56
schestowitz-pithe things people buy for happiness in tondo is not the sameJan 23 11:56
schestowitz-pias your mom likely buying "SHIT U DON'T NEED"!Jan 23 11:56
schestowitz-piif she does not open someJan 23 11:56
schestowitz-pithen  it is compulsive buyingJan 23 11:56
schestowitz-piaka hoardingJan 23 11:56
schestowitz-pithings she does not needJan 23 11:56
schestowitz-pido not enrich her lifeJan 23 11:56
schestowitz-piand she might regret in the future when she is tight with moneyJan 23 11:57
schestowitz-piand social security is MIAJan 23 11:57
schestowitz-pi[11:52] <DaemonFC> (and send his children to Harvard)Jan 23 11:57
schestowitz-pidemand for MBAs is downJan 23 11:57
schestowitz-pii saw an article last monthJan 23 11:57
schestowitz-piyour "management" degree might be almost worthless nowJan 23 11:57
schestowitz-piharvard teaches other thingsJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-pibut not leading in themJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-piso maybe $300,000 down the drainJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-pi[11:52] <DaemonFC> Or you can just use a better toothbrush.Jan 23 11:58
schestowitz-pii bought two this past sundayJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-pifrom a seller i know in personJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-piwe support each otherJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-pilots of tradinhg and barterningJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-pialways cash and exchangesJan 23 11:58
schestowitz-pione of them, another lady, i gave gifts toJan 23 11:59
schestowitz-pibecause she keeps giving us goods for freeJan 23 11:59
schestowitz-piwe sort of bypass this bad economyJan 23 11:59
techrights-sec2Digging, Confluence is generally on Windows, but maybe to save timeJan 23 12:02
techrights-sec2just categorize that article under proprietary rather than  tcoJan 23 12:02
schestowitz-pi(am being defensive to avoid ms trolls like gulagboy saying, "look, this boy cries wolf... so need to prepare the defence in case of nitpicking) Jan 23 12:05
schestowitz-pi(we are under _extra_ scrutiny because what we say, while true, is sometimes "taboo".. because it is non-conventional or suppressed... ayt least hereJan 23 12:05
schestowitz-piyou don't get beheaded for atheism like in Saudi Barbaria... btw, i barely ever mention vaccines in TR... as they love to lump together everyoneJan 23 12:05
schestowitz-piwith "antivaxxer")Jan 23 12:05
schestowitz-pibtw many typos in irc are ok as they reaffirm that it is _not_ formal, more like scribblingJan 23 12:05
schestowitz-pinot even "Forums"Jan 23 12:05
techrights-sec2Yes, precision is warranted.  A growing problem is that more snakeoil productsJan 23 12:05
techrights-sec2are getting ported to GNU/Linux so even if there are no customers anywhereJan 23 12:05
techrights-sec2running on GNU/Linux they get to tag it in the CVEJan 23 12:05
techrights-sec2Conventional but suppressed.  Green DaeshJan 23 12:05
schestowitz-pii am extremely unhappy about green daesh sportwashingJan 23 12:06
schestowitz-pias you are awareJan 23 12:07
schestowitz-pii boycott every sport they have touched with success (tennis might be next after golf, boxing, footballJan 23 12:07
schestowitz-pi)Jan 23 12:07
schestowitz-pinow they aim at olympicsJan 23 12:07
techrights-sec2Yes understandably so.  Jan 23 12:07
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schestowitz-pimy personal site/blog helps keep tr tied up to any BS "labels"Jan 23 12:08
schestowitz-piyesterdayt in TM i wrote in length about palm PDA (proprietary)Jan 23 12:08
schestowitz-pitoday i organise the tea sets here, lots of kitchen workJan 23 12:08
schestowitz-piso fewer articles, by intentionJan 23 12:08
techrights-sec2Labels and aspersions are used to try to discredit, as seen in that old threadJan 23 12:08
techrights-sec2the other day on the FreeBSD ForumJan 23 12:08
techrights-sec2About to make coffee here and then have to shovel snow. Jan 23 12:08
schestowitz-pishoveling is a sport if you keep posture rightJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-piif not, it can damage the spineJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pigardening by my mom did her more harm than goodJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pibad bendingJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pijoint problems nowJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pialso excessive or too intense exerciseJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pimoderate and in length seems betterJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pithey started doing loads ofg 'free' (NHS SUBSIDISED) blood pressure tests hereJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-piin recent yearsJan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pinot sure if  related to the health crisis Jan 23 12:11
schestowitz-pimy was taken unplanned... it was "regular", rianne the sameJan 23 12:11
DaemonFCGardening.Jan 23 12:14
DaemonFCSometimes there's a bonus slug in there.Jan 23 12:14
DaemonFCAsk Holly for her slug soup recipe.Jan 23 12:15
DaemonFCbblJan 23 12:15
schestowitz-pimillion!Jan 23 12:17
techrights-sec2In all activities, proper posture and ergonomics are essential, especiallyJan 23 12:18
techrights-sec2if there is load and/or repetition.  Jan 23 12:18
techrights-sec2We are still looking for the replacement part for our refrigerator.  ItJan 23 12:18
techrights-sec2is out of commission until it is fixed.  But if the part is not availableJan 23 12:18
techrights-sec2then we are stuck buying a *very* expensive replacement, all replacementsJan 23 12:18
techrights-sec2these days are terribly poor quality and last only 4 or 5 years - by design.Jan 23 12:18
schestowitz-pimy 50cJan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pi(warning: totally NOT an expert, barely a novice)Jan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pimom's microwave worked about 30 yearsJan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pifridge from her marriage (later 70s) still worked last i saw itJan 23 12:20
schestowitz-piwith or without maintenance... not sure, did not askJan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pithe newer one (mid 90s) worked last i saw itJan 23 12:20
schestowitz-piours is doing... ok (LG)Jan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pi Jan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pinow, at the shops:Jan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pilots of overpriced "smart" stuff Jan 23 12:20
schestowitz-piwe used to check about small freezer for "extras"Jan 23 12:20
schestowitz-piprices are high, even for "no-name" brandsJan 23 12:20
schestowitz-pichanged our minds, stopped searchingJan 23 12:20
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techrights-sec2If we have to buy a new one, a hard point is that it shall have no wifi or Jan 23 12:22
techrights-sec2bluetooth.  Having either is a deal-breaker.  Jan 23 12:22
techrights-sec2The newer ones also have less capacity or volume.Jan 23 12:22
schestowitz-piresearching the "market" in 2024Jan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pijust a moJan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pinarrow ones about 350 poundsJan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pinot a good brand, BushJan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pibetter brands still narrow at that price pointJan 23 12:28
schestowitz-piwtf, i think narrow is the "new standard"Jan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pii am sure wider ones still existJan 23 12:28
schestowitz-piprobably not marketed or don't sell wellJan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pihttps://www.argos.co.uk/product/3634181?clickSR=slp:term:fridge:45:67:1Jan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pi"Pioneering design. Industry-leading innovation. And the embedded Wi-Fi allows you to access Smart Things to help you live a connected lifestyle. "Jan 23 12:28
schestowitz-piSmart Things capitalised :-D LOL!Jan 23 12:28
schestowitz-pi"connected lifestyle."Jan 23 12:28
schestowitz-piis that an NSA slogan?Jan 23 12:28
schestowitz-piCarlin had a go at the word "lifestyle."Jan 23 12:28
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psydruidmore, bigger and more expensive!Jan 23 13:14
psydruidI just don't see the point anymoreJan 23 13:18
psydruidwhatever is left of the economy looks more like a fata morganaJan 23 13:18
psydruidchasing illusions that were planted in your head by previous generationsJan 23 13:19
schestowitz-pisomething like thatJan 23 13:23
schestowitz-pilook at dubai and qatarJan 23 13:23
schestowitz-pibuilding tall... well, not buildingJan 23 13:23
schestowitz-pithey contract western companiesJan 23 13:23
schestowitz-pito build some tall towersJan 23 13:23
schestowitz-piand then what?Jan 23 13:23
schestowitz-piwhat's the point?Jan 23 13:23
schestowitz-picheaper to maintain many shorter onesJan 23 13:23
schestowitz-pialso saferJan 23 13:23
schestowitz-piso that is the metaphorJan 23 13:24
schestowitz-pimany people are ok with wife, food, computer, restJan 23 13:24
schestowitz-pisome people fly Lolita ExpressJan 23 13:24
schestowitz-pior show off in some extravagant wayJan 23 13:24
schestowitz-piand then dieJan 23 13:24
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Which one was organised via or by TikTok (Beijing), Zuckerberg (scumville), and Musk+KSA? https://yle.fi/a/74-20070612Jan 23 13:38
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- yle.fi | Russian speakers hold dual demonstrations in Helsinki | Yle News | YleJan 23 13:38
techrights-sec2biab, snowshovelling phase IJan 23 13:41
techrights-sec2backJan 23 13:41
techrights-sec2https://www.rferl.org/a/russians-abroad-mandatory-register-consulates/32784737.htmlJan 23 13:41
techrights-sec2Yes it and another article were in Links the other day Jan 23 13:42
techrights-sec2Like Red China, though not to the nth generation ... yetJan 23 13:42
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schestowitz-piwe linked to this twice or moreJan 23 13:50
schestowitz-piit's quite tellingJan 23 13:50
schestowitz-piglobal paternalism, a bit like chinaJan 23 13:50
schestowitz-pipolicing "their" people abroadJan 23 13:50
techrights-sec2Red China goes after people with regional ancestry even if they areJan 23 13:51
techrights-sec2several generations away.  Jan 23 13:51
techrights-sec2I suppose Putler will do the same.  I guess he is in a very bad spot Jan 23 13:51
techrights-sec2with domestic politics for him to make so much noise about preposterous things. Jan 23 13:51
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schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> North Korea is now testing, by proxy, its weapons' performance against a wide array of Western air defence systems. Meanwhile Putin calls it "terrorism" when Ukraine fights to defend or retake its OWN cities.Jan 23 14:19
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> There is a global mental health crisis, fuelled largely by overpopulation, but that does not mean society should start accepting fantasy as a new reality or "P-C science". For instance, people's moods don't alter "they" into singular form. And Microsoft is not a software company per se.Jan 23 14:19
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Microsoft had many decades to mend its products, but instead it invested in bribing people and Bill Gates spent years flying Lolita Express while committing crimes and paying the media to call those crimes "charity"Jan 23 14:19
techrights-sec2Anything other than forcing the language onto people is now consideredJan 23 14:20
techrights-sec2discrimination.  My guess is that Putler, as mentioned, is in a veryJan 23 14:20
techrights-sec2tight spot with a lot of domestic opposition,  Jan 23 14:20
techrights-sec2And Musk cuts of the networking to ensure that Ukraine's counter offensiveJan 23 14:20
techrights-sec2gets stopped in its tracks. Jan 23 14:20
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schestowitz-pido you fancy programming challenge with multi/cross-line string manipulation?Jan 23 14:25
schestowitz-pii think awk or c needed, not sure if sed and bash can do this easilyJan 23 14:25
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techrights-sec2AWK or Perl would be for string manipulationJan 23 14:31
techrights-sec2What problem?Jan 23 14:31
schestowitz-pii think i found a solution, so never mindJan 23 14:33
techrights-sec2ok npJan 23 14:34
schestowitz-pimexiconewsdaily seems to be promoting placebos, superstition, and liesJan 23 14:35
schestowitz-pijust sayingJan 23 14:35
schestowitz-pinoticed some examples latelyJan 23 14:35
schestowitz-pimaybe same site, different editor, did not checkJan 23 14:35
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schestowitz-pihttps://emorywheel.com/bittorrent-btt-decentralized-file-sharing-with-btt-coin/Jan 23 14:56
schestowitz-pi??Jan 23 14:56
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schestowitz-pihttps://emorywheel.com/bittorrent-btt-decentralized-file-sharing-with-btt-coin/Jan 23 14:57
schestowitz-pi??Jan 23 14:57
schestowitz-piemorywheel.Jan 23 14:57
techrights-sec2probablyJan 23 14:57
techrights-sec2checkingJan 23 14:57
techrights-sec2scammers peddling fraudJan 23 14:57
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schestowitz-pihttps://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/How_to_Install_Firefox_as_a_DEB_Package_on_Debian_Ubuntu_or_Lin.shtmlJan 23 15:16
schestowitz-pii think this one needs  removingJan 23 15:16
schestowitz-piit is replaced by Jan 23 15:16
schestowitz-pihttps://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/How_to_Install_Firefox_as_a_DEB_Package_on_Debian_Ubuntu_or_Lin.1.shtmlJan 23 15:16
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techrights-sec2checkingJan 23 15:17
techrights-sec2$ tm-update-entry-sql.pl --delete --url https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/How_to_Install_Firefox_as_a_DEB_Package_on_Debian_Ubuntu_or_Lin.shtmlJan 23 15:17
techrights-sec2Record 18790 deletedJan 23 15:17
techrights-sec2$ refresh-site-from-db.shJan 23 15:17
techrights-sec2Creating temporary directories and filesJan 23 15:17
techrights-sec2Creating static XHTML and GemText hierarchiesJan 23 15:18
techrights-sec2No records or no unwritten records.Jan 23 15:18
techrights-sec2Updating SSI filesJan 23 15:18
techrights-sec2Writing the RSS feed for HTTPJan 23 15:18
techrights-sec2Writing the Atom feed for GeminiJan 23 15:18
techrights-sec2Writing the Gemini indexJan 23 15:18
techrights-sec2Erasing temporary directories and their files.Jan 23 15:18
schestowitz-pithanksJan 23 15:18
schestowitz-piand good to know we approach 20kJan 23 15:18
schestowitz-piit was always about 30 a day or 10k per yearJan 23 15:18
schestowitz-pinow i see the syntax for deleteJan 23 15:18
schestowitz-piwithout knowing the  column numberJan 23 15:18
techrights-sec2Yep. \      Jan 23 15:19
techrights-sec2The number is in a comment line in the head Jan 23 15:19
schestowitz-pi> Hi, please delete these two duplicated entries (my bad). Thank you!Jan 23 15:21
schestowitz-pi> Jan 23 15:21
schestowitz-pi> https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/How_to_Install_Firefox_as_a_DEB_Package_on_Debian_Ubuntu_or_Lin.shtml <https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/How_to_Install_Firefox_as_a_DEB_Package_on_Debian_Ubuntu_or_Lin.shtml>Jan 23 15:22
schestowitz-pi> https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/How_to_Install_Firefox_as_a_DEB_Package_on_Debian_Ubuntu_or_Lin.1.shtml <https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/How_to_Install_Firefox_as_a_DEB_Package_on_Debian_Ubuntu_or_Lin.1.shtml>Jan 23 15:22
schestowitz-piDone, I think. :"-)Jan 23 15:22
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Gentoo 2023 in Review: Binary Packages Hosting and Dev Growth ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Gentoo_2023_in_Review_Binary_Packages_Hosting_and_Dev_Growth.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Gentoo_2023_in_Review_Binary_Packages_Hosting_and_Dev_Growth.gmi ∎Jan 23 16:41
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Mozilla Firefox 123 Enters Public Beta Testing, Here’s What to Expect ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Mozilla_Firefox_123_Enters_Public_Beta_Testing_Here_s_What_to_E.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Mozilla_Firefox_123_Enters_Public_Beta_Testing_Here_s_What_to_E.gmi ∎Jan 23 18:46
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techrights-newsTechrights – Gemini Links 23/01/2024: Nihilism and Suckless Surf ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/Gemini_Links_23_01_2024_Nihilism_and_Suckless_Surf.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/Gemini_Links_23_01_2024_Nihilism_and_Suckless_Surf.gmi ∎Jan 23 21:05
techrights-newsTechrights – This Linux distribution is an audio content creator's paradise ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/This_Linux_distribution_is_an_audio_content_creator_s_paradise.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/This_Linux_distribution_is_an_audio_content_creator_s_paradise.gmi ∎Jan 23 21:10
techrights-newsTechrights – gprofng GUI 1.1 released ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/gprofng_GUI_1_1_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/gprofng_GUI_1_1_released.gmi ∎Jan 23 21:15
techrights-newsTechrights – In Web Servers, Microsoft Continues Losing Relative Market Share (and the Web's Decline Continues) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/In_Web_Servers_Microsoft_Continues_Losing_Relative_Market_Share.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/23/In_Web_Servers_Microsoft_Continues_Losing_Relative_Market_Share.gmi ∎Jan 23 21:40
techrights-sec2biab, snow shovelling, phase IIJan 23 21:41
techrights-sec2backJan 23 21:41
techrights-sec2hmmm there may still be some problems in tr-generate-feed.pl regardingJan 23 21:41
techrights-sec2sorting and annotation of modified postsJan 23 21:41
techrights-sec2nevermind, it is a quirk with not being able to tell what has been re-modifiedJan 23 21:41
techrights-sec2each modification gets a 30 minute window during which it is not marked as updatedJan 23 21:41
techrights-sec2afkJan 23 21:41
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schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> The worst thing you can do with this is stop trying to move the joint in its natural range of motion.Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> hackaday relaying Microsoft spam!! β˜› https://hackaday.com/2024/01/23/ai-on-the-hunt-for-better-batteries/ | Source: HackadayJan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- AI On The Hunt For Better Batteries | HackadayJan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> A lot of people do that because it hurts and then what happens is that the deposits get worse and worse and the pain starts happening with more and more types of movement and then the entire arm can actually freeze up and not want to move anymore.Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> That's when calcific tendonitis becomes frozen arm.Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Court sentences ex-vaccine chief to community service ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20070632 "found guilty of defrauding a university"Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- yle.fi | Court sentences ex-vaccine chief to community service | Yle News | YleJan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: I'm sure the biologist would say that calcium deposits in your arm don't specifically interfere with reproduction.Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: ^Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> So evolution hasn't had much of a reason to improve on this.Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> bill's enablersJan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> https://yle.fi/a/3-11898691Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- yle.fi | Finnish researchers: Sputnik vaccine could have the same rare blood clot issue as AstraZeneca | YleJan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Why wouldn't it?Jan 23 22:22
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> The Russians can develop a crappy vaccine like AZ.Jan 23 22:22
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schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Bitcoin’s Market Impact Amidst Supply Chain Disruptions ☞ https://emorywheel.com/bitcoins-market-impact-amidst-supply-chain-disruptions/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bitcoins-market-impact-amidst-supply-chain-disruptionsJan 23 23:09
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- emorywheel.com | Bitcoin's Market Impact Amidst Supply Chain Disruptions | The Emory WheelJan 23 23:09
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> So emorywheel posted TWO SCAM PIECES for FAKECOINS... in one day. Emory defunct?Jan 23 23:09
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Events: Free Software Directory Meeting, openSUSE Conference, Prague PostgreSQL Developer Day 2024, and XDC 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Events_Free_Software_Directory_Meeting_openSUSE_Conference_Prag.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/Events_Free_Software_Directory_Meeting_openSUSE_Conference_Prag.gmi ∎Jan 23 23:38
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/23/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Jan 23 23:39
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