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| techrights-news | Managing NoScript Whitelists and Some Tor Browser Observations | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/22/tor-browser-observations/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/22/tor-browser-observations/ | Aug 23 02:08 |
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| techrights-news | Non-Interaction With Google Search. Why Your Next Search Engine Should Be SearXNG. | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/22/non-interaction-with-google/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/22/non-interaction-with-google/ | Aug 23 02:22 |
| techrights-news | Gemini Links 22/08/2023: GitHub Turning Nastier, Google Domains Migration | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/22/google-domains-migration/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/22/google-domains-migration/ | Aug 23 02:27 |
| techrights-news | Links 22/08/2023: Microsoft Kills Off Yet Another Product; Bridging IIO and Input in Linux | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/22/bridging-iio-and-input-in-linux/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/22/bridging-iio-and-input-in-linux/ | Aug 23 02:32 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 02:35 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux Kernel Development and Linux Foundation Fluff ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Linux_Kernel_Development_and_Linux_Foundation_Fluff.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Linux_Kernel_Development_and_Linux_Foundation_Fluff.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 02:47 |
| MinceR | i've put a few k-lines on Tor exit nodes | Aug 23 03:05 |
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| schestowitz-pi | tes | Aug 23 04:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | test ok | Aug 23 04:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | MinceR: re messages | Aug 23 05:18 |
| schestowitz-pi | Yes, there is a mixture of opportunistic trolls muddying the water, hence I occasionally point out that some of these are mere rumours, e.g. sex transition (although Isis confirms it). | Aug 23 05:18 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Matthew Garrett, Cambridge & Debian: female colleague was afraid ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Matthew_Garrett_Cambridge_Debian_female_colleague_was_afraid.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Matthew_Garrett_Cambridge_Debian_female_colleague_was_afraid.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 06:09 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Fired 50 Humans at MSN News and Turned It Over to a Chatbot, Which Posted an Article Saying “Visit the Food Bank Hungry.” | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/23/chaff-bots/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/23/chaff-bots/ | Aug 23 06:20 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (UPDATED): Devuan GNU+Linux 5 Is Here for Software Freedom Lovers Based on Debian 12 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/15/Devuan_GNU_Linux_5_Is_Here_for_Software_Freedom_Lovers_Based_on.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/15/Devuan_GNU_Linux_5_Is_Here_for_Software_Freedom_Lovers_Based_on.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 07:00 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Transform your mundane Xfce desktop with Whisker menu ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Transform_your_mundane_Xfce_desktop_with_Whisker_menu.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Transform_your_mundane_Xfce_desktop_with_Whisker_menu.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 07:13 |
| techrights-[sec] | l-C, I presume? | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | intentional | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | after 186 days uptime | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | system updated, reboot | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is some odd bug in konsole now | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | but for some things i use another terminal | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz-pi3> <techrights-news> SPAMNIL POSTING SPAM FOR BRIBES. Even patents on software. SPAMNIL... when clickfraud is a business model.☞ https://tfir.io/foretrace-tim-leverages-generative-ai-to-accelerate-data-breach-detection-and-mitigation/ | Aug 23 07:15 |
| techrights-[sec] | The panel debate program on TV the other day observed that over 20% of | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | the inhabitants of Sweden are moslem and that might be a low estimate | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | because the old census methods don't take into account those living illegally | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | I started to mention the situation at the central train station to a younger | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | friend and she recognized the problem, having been through the station, and | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | was clearly frightened by the very idea of how the station is at night nowadays | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | If it is over 20% there now, in 15 years it will be over 40% | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | If the mosque drive "vote banks" like in India, they will control | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | national politics there between now and then, with room to spare | Aug 23 07:34 |
| techrights-[sec] | Harder each day to find tech news. | Aug 23 07:34 |
| schestowitz-pi | THIS IS OK (joke, dog in fiety home) | Aug 23 07:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | *fiery | Aug 23 07:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | it's expected | Aug 23 07:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | the trends accelerate only in the one direction | Aug 23 07:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | see the latest post in TR, from ryan | Aug 23 07:35 |
| techrights-[sec] | yep | Aug 23 07:36 |
| techrights-[sec] | checking | Aug 23 07:36 |
| techrights-[sec] | yep the food bank "article" got minor coverage but none really examined | Aug 23 07:36 |
| techrights-[sec] | the underlying cause: that the reporters were nearly all fired earlier | Aug 23 07:36 |
| techrights-[sec] | and m$ is using LLM filler in place of the articles the missing reporters | Aug 23 07:36 |
| techrights-[sec] | would have written | Aug 23 07:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | this relates to the ctrl+c'd discussion we had about rap "music" | Aug 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | and the economics of swift taylor | Aug 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | or the "singing" at the station | Aug 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | by draftful jihadi sermon artists | Aug 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | with very beautiful voice | Aug 23 07:37 |
| techrights-[sec] | I haven't visited YouTube much for a long time, perhaps a year or two, and | Aug 23 07:39 |
| techrights-[sec] | when I did it had finally stopped pushing jihadi videos. | Aug 23 07:39 |
| techrights-[sec] | It used to push those no matter what one looked at or searched for. | Aug 23 07:39 |
| techrights-[sec] | BTW whenever mentioning crazy matt, it is important to remind old readers and | Aug 23 07:40 |
| techrights-[sec] | inform new readers of TPM, Restricted Boot, and how he let m$ avoid court | Aug 23 07:40 |
| techrights-[sec] | scrutiny that way. | Aug 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> TheLocal feels like spam and chaff. Compare these two https://www.thelocal.dk/20230816/how-to-pick-mushrooms-in-denmark-like-youve-been-doing-it-all-your-life https://www.thelocal.se/20200903/how-to-pick-mushrooms-in-sweden-even-if-youve-never-done-it-before optimised for SEO, reused crap? | Aug 23 07:45 |
| techrights-[sec] | That way the posts add to the on-topic discussion while still working | Aug 23 07:46 |
| techrights-[sec] | to neutralize crazy matt | Aug 23 07:46 |
| techrights-[sec] | Probably. I forgot who owns/controls TheLocal but I recall that the assessment | Aug 23 07:57 |
| techrights-[sec] | was to avoid it | Aug 23 07:57 |
| techrights-[sec] | I don't have it in any lists of feeds nor in other to-read lists | Aug 23 07:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | connected to us embassy staff | Aug 23 07:57 |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/23/irc-log-220823/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/23/irc-log-220823/ | Aug 23 07:59 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 12 Best Free and Open Source Web Photo Gallery Solutions ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/12_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Web_Photo_Gallery_Solutions.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/12_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Web_Photo_Gallery_Solutions.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 10:18 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): UNIX vs Linux: What's the Difference ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/UNIX_vs_Linux_What_s_the_Difference.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/UNIX_vs_Linux_What_s_the_Difference.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 10:18 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 10:19 |
| techrights-[sec] | FWIW OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice have long had the capacity script in python | Aug 23 10:23 |
| techrights-[sec] | IIRC but m$ is now getting press for an "innovation" by *finally* adding it | Aug 23 10:23 |
| techrights-[sec] | to their spreadsheet | Aug 23 10:23 |
| techrights-[sec] | https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/375483 | Aug 23 10:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is a foss analogy here | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | or pub | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | the pubs here deny access not based on race but items of clothing | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | like formal shoes | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | foss needs some quality control too | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | for characters and skills | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | *character | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | nations are the same | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | ethnics, not | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | skills, cultural etc. | Aug 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | steve jobs' a typs, b types analogy | Aug 23 10:52 |
| techrights-[sec] | Yes though such controls and barriers tend to be quickly subverted and | Aug 23 11:05 |
| techrights-[sec] | do the opposite of whatthey started out doing. See "Outreachy" | Aug 23 11:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | ack | Aug 23 11:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | btw, just saw the urls re python | Aug 23 11:07 |
| techrights-[sec] | Yes M$ is subverting the language | Aug 23 11:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | unis gave up on quality control | Aug 23 11:08 |
| schestowitz-pi | to attract foreign money | Aug 23 11:08 |
| schestowitz-pi | they see dollar signs or pound sign | Aug 23 11:08 |
| schestowitz-pi | nothing else | Aug 23 11:08 |
| techrights-[sec] | Yes it seems so. They have stopped aiming for pursuit of knowledge and | Aug 23 11:09 |
| techrights-[sec] | are only money grubbing bureaucrats dressed as academics | Aug 23 11:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | reminds me we need to habitually should check cyber|show for new eps | Aug 23 11:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | last i checked there was no rss feeds | Aug 23 11:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | too uch offloading (outsourcing) | Aug 23 11:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | which did not eben work for them | Aug 23 11:10 |
| techrights-[sec] | Can they send a notification? Or is RSS the only way? | Aug 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz-pi | https://cybershow.uk/feed.php | Aug 23 11:12 |
| techrights-[sec] | https://cybershow.uk/feed.php | Aug 23 11:12 |
| techrights-[sec] | LOL more or less concurrent | Aug 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz-pi | might be a new addition | Aug 23 11:13 |
| schestowitz-pi | going to yoga class in 3 hours | Aug 23 11:18 |
| schestowitz-pi | collecting berries on the way there | Aug 23 11:18 |
| schestowitz-pi | btw, re quality control, cybershow has high quality | Aug 23 11:18 |
| schestowitz-pi | and a lack of audience shows "influencer" implies little substance | Aug 23 11:18 |
| schestowitz-pi | like L.T.Tips | Aug 23 11:18 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Microsoft's Monopoly Scrutiny ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Microsoft_s_Monopoly_Scrutiny.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Microsoft_s_Monopoly_Scrutiny.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 11:40 |
| techrights-[sec] | Linus Tech Tips has been excoriated in recent reviews. It has been known to | Aug 23 11:55 |
| techrights-[sec] | be full of shit for years. | Aug 23 11:55 |
| techrights-news | By Month’s End Lupa Will Quite Likely See 3,500 Unique Gemini Capsules in Geminispace | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/23/gemini-capsules-in-geminispace/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/23/gemini-capsules-in-geminispace/ | Aug 23 12:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | see latest post tm #8 and #10 | Aug 23 12:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | i keep the talk on my HDD too | Aug 23 12:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | prioritising articles, not links for now... had lots of catching up to do | Aug 23 12:05 |
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| techrights-[sec] | checking | Aug 23 12:23 |
| techrights-[sec] | the crazy matt article forgot to mention restricted boot :/ | Aug 23 12:23 |
| techrights-[sec] | but which are #8 and #10 ? | Aug 23 12:23 |
| schestowitz-pi | i will try to refrain from covering the topic till next week | Aug 23 12:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | tm is #8 in latest TR post re gemini | Aug 23 12:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | going to do daily links shortly | Aug 23 12:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | populating the ukraine section atm | Aug 23 12:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> Too late. With help from Pooh-tin, it may have already did, e.g. via TikTok ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20046449 | Aug 23 12:27 |
| schestowitz-pi | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- yle.fi | Niinistö: Russia won't meddle in Finnish presidential elections | News | Yle Uutiset | Aug 23 12:27 |
| techrights-[sec] | I would say that it has successfully bent the results in the previous | Aug 23 12:39 |
| techrights-[sec] | election and has disrupted and steered online discussions in harmful ways for years | Aug 23 12:39 |
| techrights-[sec] | But back to the previous. which were #8 and #10 ? | Aug 23 12:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | news.tm.org | Aug 23 12:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | and gemini.tm.org | Aug 23 12:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | in the screenshot | Aug 23 12:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | not visible in gemini version sadly | Aug 23 12:51 |
| techrights-[sec] | I dont' see numbers, what are some phrases to look for? | Aug 23 12:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | alt covered the key thing | Aug 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-pi | # of capsules | Aug 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-pi | and it's also in the text of the post | Aug 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-pi | anecdote: tuxmachines increasingly promine t | Aug 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-pi | for linux news it has no rival there yet | Aug 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-pi | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/23/gemini-capsules-in-geminispace/index.gmi | Aug 23 12:55 |
| schestowitz-pi | 3473 today: | Aug 23 12:55 |
| schestowitz-pi | Image: Geminispace: 3500 capsules soon (3473 today) | Aug 23 12:55 |
| techrights-[sec] | Good that TM is getting increased visibility, important then to stay | Aug 23 13:02 |
| techrights-[sec] | laser focused on the relevant topics. | Aug 23 13:02 |
| techrights-[sec] | Gemini remains niche but nonetheless important | Aug 23 13:02 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne is (by choice) studying irc logs from dusk till dawn or vice versa | Aug 23 13:03 |
| schestowitz-pi | this whole thing made her motivated to write long piece | Aug 23 13:03 |
| schestowitz-pi | *pieces | Aug 23 13:03 |
| schestowitz-pi | and i won't stop her | Aug 23 13:03 |
| schestowitz-pi | it's her outlet; remember what he did to her | Aug 23 13:03 |
| techrights-[sec] | Yes, I recall, he also did restricted boot to the rest of us. | Aug 23 13:18 |
| techrights-[sec] | The Indian moon lander will attempt landing within the hour IIRC | Aug 23 13:18 |
| schestowitz-pi | it would be a triumph to the least sinister among BRICS | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | but tbh i trust brazil more, now with lula | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | btw, the trolling by mjg has taken a new approach | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | like staging how it's done by others | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | and conning people | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | mincer blocked almost majority or tor if i understand correctly | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | we are leaving for the yoga class soon | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | but i will queeze in articles/links before that | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne got her second passport today, good till 2033 | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | there are 4 places where we can live as natives | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | the neighbours are smoking pot again | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | that only annoys me because it stinks and also a hot day, so the door is open next to me | Aug 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | awful neighbours | Aug 23 13:22 |
| MinceR | i don't know how much i blocked | Aug 23 13:22 |
| MinceR | but i did avoid placing over 800 klines that i would have to remove and re-add later, potentially | Aug 23 13:22 |
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| schestowitz-pi | MinceR: if it makes him work harder, | Aug 23 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | then he will give up sooner | Aug 23 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | he needs to configure the irc client over and over again | Aug 23 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | to drop just one line | Aug 23 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | btw, i checked those logs | Aug 23 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne saw them too | Aug 23 13:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | it seems like a face-saving stunt | Aug 23 13:29 |
| techrights-[sec] | Is weed even legal in the UK? | Aug 23 13:29 |
| techrights-[sec] | Our passports and other documents expire every five years. | Aug 23 13:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | informally | Aug 23 13:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | germany issues them for 5 years for people whose face changes a lot (under 18s), otherwise 10 | Aug 23 13:29 |
| techrights-[sec] | I think here it has to do with the underlying technologies. There are | Aug 23 13:32 |
| techrights-[sec] | RSA certificates embedded in the national identification card, for example | Aug 23 13:32 |
| techrights-[sec] | and RFID in the passport | Aug 23 13:32 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-pi: i've seen a bunch of failed attempts to connect from the spammer already | Aug 23 13:32 |
| MinceR | i don't think it requires reconfiguring the client though | Aug 23 13:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | good, as slowing him down lessens the incentive to retry | Aug 23 13:33 |
| MinceR | just have Tor establish a new circuit | Aug 23 13:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | the exit message | Aug 23 13:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | usually, with gui at least | Aug 23 13:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | maybe other programs make that simpler | Aug 23 13:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | like /exit something | Aug 23 13:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | and then quit | Aug 23 13:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | i don't know irc backend commands | Aug 23 13:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | like HELO in FTP | Aug 23 13:33 |
| MinceR | i think that's SMTP | Aug 23 13:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | let me check FTP | Aug 23 13:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FTP_commands | Aug 23 13:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | right, there is HELP, but no HELO | Aug 23 13:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | i set up FTP for some clients in sirius | Aug 23 13:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | and only remember the very basic commands | Aug 23 13:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is a consulate in leeds, a bus drive away from us, then i pay the fee | Aug 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | and avoid taking a train to london | Aug 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | and go to a nice restaurant there | Aug 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | next time 2029 | Aug 23 13:40 |
| techrights-[sec] | That's convenient. | Aug 23 13:40 |
| techrights-[sec] | back in an hour or two | Aug 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | indiatimes.com may fall over soon | Aug 23 13:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | having a ripple effect on most english-speaking indian sites with actual quality control | Aug 23 13:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | i look at MSFT layoff news every day | Aug 23 13:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | in just a few months the volume of results has halved | Aug 23 13:45 |
| schestowitz-pi | with "linux" or "ubuntu" 95% of the 'results' come from less than 10 domains | Aug 23 13:45 |
| schestowitz-pi | e.g. phoronix | Aug 23 13:45 |
| schestowitz-pi | when it comes to checking sites without rss feeds, i am changing from weekly check to 2 weeks apart | Aug 23 13:45 |
| schestowitz-pi | as it's time-wasting to check pages that barely change at all | Aug 23 13:45 |
| schestowitz-pi | (it is pointless opening a page, even once in 7 days, if it does not change at all, so the opening turns out | Aug 23 13:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | to have no real purpose) | Aug 23 13:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | i also have a list of sites to check once per month | Aug 23 13:47 |
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| techrights-news | Gemini Links 23/08/2023: Tripod and Angelfire as the Last Bastions of the Old Web | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/23/last-bastions-of-the-old-web/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/23/last-bastions-of-the-old-web/ | Aug 23 14:17 |
| techrights-news | Links 23/08/2023: Slackware Live ISO Refresh | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/23/slackware-live-iso-refresh/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/23/slackware-live-iso-refresh/ | Aug 23 14:22 |
| techrights-news | Leftover Links 23/08/2023: India Attempt to Make History on the Moon | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/08/23/india-and-moon/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/08/23/india-and-moon/ | Aug 23 14:39 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Proprietary Failures and Security Breaches (Microsoft) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Proprietary_Failures_and_Security_Breaches_Microsoft.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Proprietary_Failures_and_Security_Breaches_Microsoft.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:46 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux Devices and Open Hardware ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Linux_Devices_and_Open_Hardware.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Linux_Devices_and_Open_Hardware.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:46 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Gambling Blockers for Linux Devices Explained ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Gambling_Blockers_for_Linux_Devices_Explained.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Gambling_Blockers_for_Linux_Devices_Explained.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:46 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): today's FOSS and programming leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/today_s_FOSS_and_programming_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/today_s_FOSS_and_programming_leftovers.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:49 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Banana Pi BPI-6202 industrial SBC features Allwinner A40i SoC, 24V DC input, RS485 interfaces ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Banana_Pi_BPI_6202_industrial_SBC_features_Allwinner_A40i_SoC_2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Banana_Pi_BPI_6202_industrial_SBC_features_Allwinner_A40i_SoC_2.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:49 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Build Service Will Be Down Temporarily ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Open_Build_Service_Will_Be_Down_Temporarily.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Open_Build_Service_Will_Be_Down_Temporarily.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:50 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): QEMU 8.1 Brings Improvements across All Architectures ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/QEMU_8_1_Brings_Improvements_across_All_Architectures.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/QEMU_8_1_Brings_Improvements_across_All_Architectures.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:51 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu 23.10’s New Development Wallpaper (Sunglasses Advised) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Ubuntu_23_10_s_New_Development_Wallpaper_Sunglasses_Advised.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Ubuntu_23_10_s_New_Development_Wallpaper_Sunglasses_Advised.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 14:51 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 15:05 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu Server vs Ubuntu Desktop: What’s the Difference? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Ubuntu_Server_vs_Ubuntu_Desktop_What_s_the_Difference.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Ubuntu_Server_vs_Ubuntu_Desktop_What_s_the_Difference.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 15:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> "Michigan Medicine has updated its COVID-19 vaccination policy, no longer requiring the vaccine or an approved exemption" ☞ https://record.umich.edu/articles/michigan-medicine-revises-vaccination-policy-flu-clinics-to-start/ | Aug 23 15:08 |
| schestowitz-pi | <techrights-news> When will the USA be bankrupt? ☞ https://bkhome.org/news/202308/when-will-the-usa-be-bankrupt.html | Aug 23 15:13 |
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| techrights-[sec] | https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/chandrayaan-3-lands-on-moon-india-joins-elite-space-club-4322798#pfrom=home-nd | Aug 23 18:30 |
| techrights-[sec] | tv_topscroll | Aug 23 18:30 |
| techrights-[sec] | https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/chandrayaan-3-lands-on-moon-india-joins-elite-space-club-4322798 | Aug 23 18:30 |
| techrights-[sec] | The ongoing news blackout on JA means that he will likely be quietly extradited | Aug 23 18:30 |
| techrights-[sec] | router maint eta 30 min | Aug 23 18:30 |
| techrights-[sec] | back | Aug 23 18:30 |
| techrights-[sec] | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12436697/UK-Covid-cases-nearly-DOUBLE-month-amid-rise-two-mutant-variants-official-figures-suggest-BA-2-86-continues-sweep-globe.html | Aug 23 18:30 |
| schestowitz-pi | the yoga class had 4 people (the usual), which is good for distancing | Aug 23 18:31 |
| schestowitz-pi | also picked up almost 3 containers of berries | Aug 23 18:31 |
| techrights-[sec] | Yoga apparently has good range-of-motion exercise | Aug 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | yes, weights and speed i do at home or outdoors | Aug 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz-pi | yoga helps us meet people | Aug 23 18:54 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu Server vs Ubuntu Desktop: What’s the Difference? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Ubuntu_Server_vs_Ubuntu_Desktop_What_s_the_Difference.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Ubuntu_Server_vs_Ubuntu_Desktop_What_s_the_Difference.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 18:56 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux Magazine's New Issue ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Linux_Magazine_s_New_Issue.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Linux_Magazine_s_New_Issue.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 18:56 |
| techrights-[sec] | I met some people the other day but am not good at conversation any more | Aug 23 19:12 |
| techrights-[sec] | and am certainly not able to converse about computers real time | Aug 23 19:12 |
| schestowitz-pi | programmers and freesw people/activists speak another language | Aug 23 19:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | and lose interest when they hear words like "app" | Aug 23 19:14 |
| techrights-[sec] | This was a mixed crowd some were way more technical than I'll ever be | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | and others were facebookers | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | One in the audience picked up on the mention of the original SSH being from | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | the now defunct HUT.fi | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | HUT is gone now | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | I'm reading two PhD dissertations on 'security' right now but they seem | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | more like masters theses and I'm not seeing much hard substance in what | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | I've skimmed through so far. No mention of thompson or wheeler for example | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | No mention of open standards either. | Aug 23 19:24 |
| techrights-[sec] | THose are integral to confidentiality, integrity, availability | Aug 23 19:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | a lot of security 'masturbating monkeys' have no formal training, expereince or grasp of secuity | Aug 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz-pi | iow, posers | Aug 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz-pi | at the very least they should grasp CS | Aug 23 19:26 |
| techrights-[sec] | There appears to be an entire industry built around clowns selling eachother | Aug 23 19:27 |
| techrights-[sec] | ineffective, expensive, after-market add-ons which they pretend provide | Aug 23 19:27 |
| techrights-[sec] | "security" based on hype of the moment. A relative is caught up in that, most | Aug 23 19:27 |
| techrights-[sec] | sadly. | Aug 23 19:27 |
| schestowitz-pi | the prob to be solved is a real one | Aug 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | many overlook the fact our own regimes mandate back doors | Aug 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | and compenies rush out the door sem-baked crap | Aug 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | ratehr than buy more stuff replace ther stack | Aug 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | with something from a reliable source | Aug 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | reliable != works with a government | Aug 23 19:29 |
| techrights-[sec] | CALEA, CALEA 2 | Aug 23 19:31 |
| techrights-[sec] | The charade that relative play in is quite expensive and 100% distracts from | Aug 23 19:31 |
| techrights-[sec] | *any* of the relevant issues. It is just about a pissing contest with who | Aug 23 19:31 |
| techrights-[sec] | has the largest budget, and even then there are no mitigations for all the | Aug 23 19:31 |
| techrights-[sec] | holes and bad designs. | Aug 23 19:31 |
| schestowitz-pi | ime, from work, even very out of date rhel (centos) can be "plugged" to be relatively secure, e.g. placer | Aug 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | behind varnish, close some ports, do not allow new accounts, limit php etc. | Aug 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | for a site that just serves static pages there is little attack surface | Aug 23 19:33 |
| techrights-[sec] | Speaking of security I hope to remember on a 'free' day during the hours aftrer | Aug 23 19:33 |
| techrights-[sec] | finishing Links to finish migrating the /blog material from TM so that | Aug 23 19:33 |
| techrights-[sec] | drupal can be wound down | Aug 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | yes, i know a way to smoothen this migration, starting with the easier redirects for node/number/ | Aug 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | it would lessen cpu usage too | Aug 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | then the special cases, over time | Aug 23 19:37 |
| techrights-[sec] | That's the goal: as much static as possible | Aug 23 19:38 |
| techrights-[sec] | The redirections are not a proble, just making sure that /blog is complete | Aug 23 19:38 |
| schestowitz-pi | the blog posts themselves (pertinent) are just nodes | Aug 23 19:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129634 | Aug 23 19:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | examples ^ | Aug 23 19:39 |
| techrights-[sec] | Yes, but it takes a block of time. It is the block part which has been\ | Aug 23 19:41 |
| techrights-[sec] | the obstacle | Aug 23 19:41 |
| techrights-[sec] | Headline "...Prigozhin feared dead ..." should be "...Prigozhin hoped dead ..." | Aug 23 19:44 |
| techrights-[sec] | [ytalk] 0:ytalk* | Aug 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | discussed in #techrights hours ago | Aug 23 19:45 |
| techrights-[sec] | afk | Aug 23 20:00 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Star Labs reveal their new StarLite, a Surface-like Linux tablet ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/19/Star_Labs_reveal_their_new_StarLite_a_Surface_like_Linux_tablet.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/19/Star_Labs_reveal_their_new_StarLite_a_Surface_like_Linux_tablet.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 20:29 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 20:29 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Stable kernels: Linux 6.4.12 and Linux 6.1.47 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_4_12_and_Linux_6_1_47.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_4_12_and_Linux_6_1_47.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 20:30 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 20:34 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): LabPlot, mintCast, and Ubuntu Podcast ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Audiocasts_Shows_LabPlot_mintCast_and_Ubuntu_Podcast.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Audiocasts_Shows_LabPlot_mintCast_and_Ubuntu_Podcast.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 20:34 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kali Linux 2023.3: Still Offensive but with a Look to Defense ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Kali_Linux_2023_3_Still_Offensive_but_with_a_Look_to_Defense.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Kali_Linux_2023_3_Still_Offensive_but_with_a_Look_to_Defense.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 20:35 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Software_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/08/23/Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Aug 23 20:35 |
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