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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-pi: So you could not remove the automatic updates and then compile it? Isn't it open source? | Sep 23 00:37 |
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| DaemonFC | [9/22/23 9:5 am] <schestowitz-pi> health-wise I am almost 100% recovered (having coffee already, that's a positive sign) | Sep 23 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | COVID? | Sep 23 00:37 |
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| techrights-sec | btw is there an icon (as in favicon.ico) for tr ? | Sep 23 03:30 |
| techrights-sec | afk | Sep 23 03:30 |
| schestowitz-pi | DaemonFC: yes, both of us | Sep 23 03:34 |
| schestowitz-pi | my mom's fault | Sep 23 03:34 |
| techrights-sec | btw is there an icon (as in favicon.ico) for tr ? | Sep 23 03:35 |
| techrights-sec | afk | Sep 23 03:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is | Sep 23 03:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | btwm http://techrights.org/ipfs/ and https://news.techrights.org/videos/ | Sep 23 03:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | and many objects like video, PDFs images etc. | Sep 23 03:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | now redirect to the front page | Sep 23 03:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | they did not before unless it was 404 | Sep 23 03:35 |
| techrights-sec | working on the static site generator for tr atm | Sep 23 03:36 |
| techrights-sec | they're over in /home/boycottn/public_html archive and should be linked | Sep 23 03:36 |
| techrights-sec | over to /var/www/techrights.org/htdocs/ please | Sep 23 03:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | thanks for working on it so early | Sep 23 03:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | when you say linked over do you mean copied across? | Sep 23 03:37 |
| techrights-sec | copied or hardlinked | Sep 23 03:43 |
| techrights-sec | hardlinked saves space | Sep 23 03:43 |
| schestowitz-pi | i see | Sep 23 03:43 |
| schestowitz-pi | when i had that configured before it was a softlink to /home/user/public_html | Sep 23 03:43 |
| schestowitz-pi | ln -s | Sep 23 03:43 |
| schestowitz-pi | now the path changed, which explains a lack of resonse to, e.g., fetching an old IRC log or old video | Sep 23 03:43 |
| techrights-sec | that only workso n files, the directories have to be created first | Sep 23 03:45 |
| techrights-sec | the whole hierarchy including massive waves of cruft were in that hierarchy | Sep 23 03:45 |
| techrights-sec | /var/www/techrights.org/htdocs/ is clean and only the stuff needed should | Sep 23 03:45 |
| techrights-sec | be copied or linked into it | Sep 23 03:45 |
| schestowitz-pi | ok, so I can identify the directories with static content in them, then ln those from /var/www/techrights.org/ | Sep 23 03:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | htdocs/ ? | Sep 23 03:47 |
| techrights-sec | yes, that seems to be an optimal approach | Sep 23 03:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | ok, on it... | Sep 23 03:47 |
| techrights-sec | thx | Sep 23 03:52 |
| schestowitz-pi | are you OK with me copyinf\g them across one by one? e.g. ipfs, irc logs | Sep 23 03:53 |
| techrights-sec | ok or by directoty but all that .cache stuff should not go, but ipfs, irc | Sep 23 03:56 |
| techrights-sec | are important | Sep 23 03:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | i moved ~ipfs to /var/www/techrights.org/htdocs/ | Sep 23 03:59 |
| schestowitz-pi | rather ~/ipfs | Sep 23 03:59 |
| schestowitz-pi | and requests still get reddirected to front page | Sep 23 03:59 |
| schestowitz-pi | i want to make the irc logs, old videos etc. accessible for now | Sep 23 03:59 |
| schestowitz-pi | the dynamic (cms) stuff will stay behind | Sep 23 03:59 |
| techrights-sec | ok great | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | https://news.techrights.org/ipfs/ still redirects to front page | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | i want to carefully assess what's in the "old" site and fork it over pending scrutiny | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | leaving behind the unnecessary cruft | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | 17 years of pile-up | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> rianne witnessed a man having a breakdown yesterday | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> in the street | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | <schestowitz> the cops were trying to comfort him | Sep 23 04:20 |
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| techrights-sec | so many MBAs have been hollowing out society for so many years now | Sep 23 04:32 |
| techrights-sec | that the parts which keep it going no longer exist. There's inertia still | Sep 23 04:32 |
| techrights-sec | but without a monumental, concerted effort by multiple nations civilization | Sep 23 04:32 |
| techrights-sec | will follow | Sep 23 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | successful fund-raising (loans) | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | "successful" insolvency (like burning people and their pension funds) | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | ete etc | Sep 23 04:33 |
| techrights-sec | yep | Sep 23 04:40 |
| techrights-sec | btw tr's generator is about ready for /testing/ not production | Sep 23 04:40 |
| techrights-sec | should we try to test it in-place and keep it hidden? | Sep 23 04:40 |
| techrights-sec | Nice | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | that is truly awesome news! | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne says she might participate in the new site also, when it is ready | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | she realluy got into activism since this past year | Sep 23 04:40 |
| techrights-sec | the ones for TM in its DocumentRoot | Sep 23 04:41 |
| techrights-sec | /about.shtml and /irc.shtml are needed in the DocumentRoot, similar to | Sep 23 04:41 |
| techrights-sec | the ones for TM in its DocumentRoot | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | i will work on those files.... | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | done | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | two files in place with seminal words | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | not sure about the bottom 5 lines with "recent posts" | Sep 23 04:50 |
| techrights-sec | thans | Sep 23 04:50 |
| techrights-sec | thanks | Sep 23 04:50 |
| techrights-sec | also an introductory post for the new site ;) | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | working on intro post :-) | Sep 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | give me 5 mins | Sep 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | see tmp on root htdocs | Sep 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | complexity as enemy of software freedom will be a theme to cover | Sep 23 05:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | drupal, wordpress, systemd... | Sep 23 05:01 |
| techrights-sec | checking | Sep 23 05:06 |
| techrights-sec | good | Sep 23 05:06 |
| techrights-sec | btw /usr/local/bin/ now has tr-*.sh scripts and their dependency perl scripts | Sep 23 05:06 |
| techrights-sec | as long as index.shtml is not in place, I think the test can be made out of | Sep 23 05:06 |
| techrights-sec | sight we can erase the test later this morning after experimenting with it | Sep 23 05:06 |
| techrights-sec | and then launch properly | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz-pi | :-) | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz-pi | do you want me to test adding? | Sep 23 05:06 |
| techrights-sec | yes please test adding and such | Sep 23 05:07 |
| techrights-sec | you can find the posts under /n/2023/09/23/ and then navigate around using | Sep 23 05:07 |
| techrights-sec | the posts own links, | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | :-) | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz-pi | do you want me to test adding? | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz-pi | /n/2023/09/23/ returns default index.html | Sep 23 05:11 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): Tux Machines Now Hosted From the United Kingdom β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/22/Tux_Machines_Now_Hosted_From_the_United_Kingdom.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/22/Tux_Machines_Now_Hosted_From_the_United_Kingdom.gmi β | Sep 23 05:13 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): Linux Foundation Rejects Linux Too (GNU/Linux an Afterthought at Best) β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/22/Linux_Foundation_Rejects_Linux_Too_GNU_Linux_an_Afterthought_at.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/22/Linux_Foundation_Rejects_Linux_Too_GNU_Linux_an_Afterthought_at.gmi β | Sep 23 05:13 |
| techrights-sec | checking | Sep 23 05:17 |
| techrights-sec | ok both tr databases should have rthe correct write permissions now | Sep 23 05:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | worked, I think | Sep 23 05:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | checking page | Sep 23 05:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | shows default page: | Sep 23 05:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | aha | Sep 23 05:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | works now | Sep 23 05:20 |
| techrights-sec | metadata is there, checking further | Sep 23 05:28 |
| techrights-sec | what about a second post with a small picture? | Sep 23 05:28 |
| techrights-sec | aliases for what? | Sep 23 05:28 |
| techrights-sec | good, saving the posts as backups will llow the to be reused after the wipe | Sep 23 05:28 |
| techrights-sec | ok good idea | Sep 23 05:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | sure | Sep 23 05:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | will also add aliases soon | Sep 23 05:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | i will save the posts aside on file for when you wipe and restart | Sep 23 05:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | aliases for the long commands | Sep 23 05:29 |
| techrights-sec | checking | Sep 23 05:46 |
| techrights-sec | typo fixed | Sep 23 05:46 |
| techrights-sec | please try again | Sep 23 05:46 |
| techrights-sec | (gemini for both sites now works with agate serving vhosts) | Sep 23 05:46 |
| schestowitz-pi | gemini://techrighrs.org/ | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | gemini://news.techrighrs.org | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | ? | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | lovelly | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | i had a typo :/ | Sep 23 05:47 |
| techrights-sec | gemini://techrights.org/ | Sep 23 05:47 |
| techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/ | Sep 23 05:47 |
| techrights-sec | we could move the DNS for gemini.techrights.org soon | Sep 23 05:47 |
| techrights-sec | have to copy the old posts first | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | gemini://news.techrighrs.org | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | over 10k hits/day | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | so better to migrate files before changing dns | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | also need to change stuff | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | e.g. lots of cron jobs | Sep 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | let's worry about that later :-) | Sep 23 05:47 |
| techrights-sec | lots of bots though. I haven't dared mess with NFT yet, not until there | Sep 23 05:48 |
| techrights-sec | is an out of band way to get back in once I lock myself out. | Sep 23 05:48 |
| techrights-sec | watchout! | Sep 23 05:48 |
| techrights-sec | $ host gemini.techright.org | Sep 23 05:48 |
| techrights-sec | gemini.techright.org has address 78.141.202.105 | Sep 23 05:48 |
| techrights-sec | yet another reason to /stop/ password autentication and use only keys ... | Sep 23 05:52 |
| techrights-sec | speaking of typos ^ | Sep 23 05:52 |
| techrights-sec | phishing site | Sep 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | phew | Sep 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz-pi | scary typo | Sep 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz-pi | tr-upload image now works | Sep 23 05:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | adding second post | Sep 23 05:58 |
| techrights-sec | very good | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | great the second post works and has a thumbnail. | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | now the CSS is needed. do either you or Rianne feel up to CSS? | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | It can be based on the TM CSS but that's as far as my own skill can take it | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | I think. | Sep 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | is the css file in TR git? or should I edit it directly? | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | not yet | Sep 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | cool! | Sep 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | i will have a go at it | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | directly is ok | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | thanks! | Sep 23 06:01 |
| techrights-sec | biab | Sep 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | https://news.techrights.org/videos.html | Sep 23 06:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | and all videos copied across | Sep 23 06:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | vhost/entry needed for boycottnovell.com | Sep 23 06:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | as some requests still come from that domain | Sep 23 06:32 |
| techrights-sec | back | Sep 23 07:53 |
| techrights-sec | should boycottnovell.com redirect to tr? | Sep 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | yes, it basically became like an alias of it, back in 2010 | Sep 23 07:53 |
| techrights-sec | ok setting up | Sep 23 08:01 |
| techrights-sec | np | Sep 23 08:01 |
| techrights-sec | thanks | Sep 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | thank you | Sep 23 08:02 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne found a little new bug which i suspect is due to splitting off /home/gemini/ into two subdirs | Sep 23 08:02 |
| schestowitz-pi | will paste message in a mo | Sep 23 08:02 |
| techrights-sec | The domains boycottnovell.com and www.boycottnovell.com have to be pointed | Sep 23 08:06 |
| techrights-sec | at the new site first before redirection can happen. | Sep 23 08:06 |
| schestowitz-pi | ah, ok, my bad | Sep 23 08:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | dns now updated | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | not sure ttl | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | a lot of the static parts of the old sites work again | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is "conflict" between ~/images in the new site and old site | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | unless we wish to merge those | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | maybe change to ~/i ? | Sep 23 08:10 |
| techrights-sec | no worries but the cache will take a long time to clear | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | www.boycottnovell.com. 14334 IN CNAME boycottnovell.com. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | boycottnovell.com. 14334 IN A 23.161.112.116 | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | Thannks! ttl is long, I've set sleep to update when it expires | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | Great. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | ok lets not merge them. I'll change it to /i | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | It';s not in any script so it may just be in the hand made pages. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | checking | Sep 23 08:12 |
| techrights-sec | There is /Images too, | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz-pi | atm TR and TM fail at ssl, i akm guessing pending some vhost config change | Sep 23 08:15 |
| techrights-sec | yes | Sep 23 08:20 |
| techrights-sec | I'll see if that can be reloaded | Sep 23 08:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | thanks | Sep 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | things have become vastly tidier than before and now we need only patch one box | Sep 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | and back up one box | Sep 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz-pi | i've made some initial css for TR | Sep 23 08:22 |
| techrights-sec | ok will check | Sep 23 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | DNS works, that;s what held it back. The sites are accessible again. | Sep 23 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | ... and boycottnovell redirects. | Sep 23 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | certbot has become very automated. when it works it works well, whent | Sep 23 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | it runs into a problem then it does not work at all | Sep 23 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | no in between any more | Sep 23 08:32 |
| techrights-sec | sorry for the down time | Sep 23 08:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | it looks like from my end *dns), https://boycottnovell.com/ now points to the new server | Sep 23 08:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | the sites are not accessible, i am guessing that can be undone | Sep 23 08:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | i see | Sep 23 08:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | no worries :-) | Sep 23 08:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | some css in there | Sep 23 08:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | i think of it as "the next 10+ years" | Sep 23 08:33 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne and i survived what could be long-term effects, so health likely won't be an issue | Sep 23 08:33 |
| techrights-sec | thanks for starting on the CSS, be sure to check as you go along in several | Sep 23 08:34 |
| techrights-sec | differenr rendering engines | Sep 23 08:34 |
| techrights-sec | please use relative measurements in CSS, such as em and % so px can be avoided | Sep 23 08:34 |
| schestowitz-pi | sure, will continue working on it | Sep 23 08:36 |
| techrights-sec | you passed through mumble here? | Sep 23 08:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | by accident | Sep 23 08:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | it auto-connected to last network | Sep 23 08:36 |
| techrights-sec | ok | Sep 23 08:36 |
| techrights-sec | np | Sep 23 08:36 |
| techrights-sec | checking | Sep 23 09:05 |
| techrights-sec | thanks. fixed. | Sep 23 09:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | she is trying again, thanks! | Sep 23 09:09 |
| techrights-sec | it was a side effect of having to change the director name to enable vhosts | Sep 23 09:15 |
| techrights-sec | for agate | Sep 23 09:15 |
| techrights-sec | because the data directory's name has to match that of the gemini host | Sep 23 09:15 |
| techrights-sec | being served | Sep 23 09:15 |
| schestowitz-pi | should a command be rerun? it seems like the http page and gemini page are listed in the indexes | Sep 23 09:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | but do not exist | Sep 23 09:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | trying again :-) | Sep 23 09:17 |
| techrights-sec | Yes, re-run it | Sep 23 09:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | awesome!!! | Sep 23 09:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | everything went smoothly now from the user's end | Sep 23 09:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | the pages appear in gemini and http | Sep 23 09:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | so that's a bug solved | Sep 23 09:20 |
| techrights-sec | :) | Sep 23 09:20 |
| schestowitz-pi | > I changed the known_hosts with new key, now its asking for password - | Sep 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | > which it should not be since its SSH. Should I send you a fresh public | Sep 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | > key which you can put to the server? I thnk that would be easier than | Sep 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | > the troubleshooting. | Sep 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | yes, please send along the public key. :-) | Sep 23 09:24 |
| techrights-sec | porting over the old tr gemini stuff, there is a lot of cruft like | Sep 23 09:29 |
| techrights-sec | tr_text_version/irc-log-social-291220.html which is html | Sep 23 09:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | we're getting a ton of work done this week, I'd have been able to contribute more if it weren't for this | Sep 23 09:31 |
| schestowitz-pi | malicious infection, impacting every tenant | Sep 23 09:31 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne is now posting more pages | Sep 23 09:31 |
| schestowitz-pi | she is happy it's solved, and the sun is coming out now, which helps | Sep 23 09:31 |
| techrights-sec | I just remmed out the gemini-related cron tasks on your RPi | Sep 23 09:31 |
| techrights-sec | those activities will have to be ported to the new system | Sep 23 09:31 |
| techrights-sec | nice | Sep 23 09:31 |
| techrights-sec | gemini://techrights.org/ | Sep 23 09:34 |
| techrights-sec | DNS can probably be updated to point gemini.techrights.org to the new IP | Sep 23 09:34 |
| techrights-sec | That's a lot of tofu! | Sep 23 09:34 |
| techrights-sec | don't you mean 1hg ? | Sep 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz-pi | cooking over 1kg of tofu with veg today | Sep 23 09:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | we recover, trying to find balances | Sep 23 09:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | if the new capsule is still private beta, maybe dns change can wait a bit | Sep 23 09:36 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): Free Software Leftovers β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Free_Software_Leftovers.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Free_Software_Leftovers.gmi β | Sep 23 09:38 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): Today's ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄ HowTos β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/today_s_howtos.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/today_s_howtos.gmi β | Sep 23 09:38 |
| techrights-news | β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/This_week_in_KDE_an_unfrozen_panel_for_NVIDIA_Wayland_users.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/This_week_in_KDE_an_unfrozen_panel_for_NVIDIA_Wayland_users.gmi β | Sep 23 09:38 |
| schestowitz-pi | weirdly enough on rianne's laptop (only hers) tuxmachines.org and www.tuxmachines.org still use outdated IPs | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | firefox on mine www.tuxmachines.org/ -> gemini.techrights.org | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | same for tuxmachines.org/ | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | but not in falkon | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | so firefox and librewolf both go to the wrong places | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | and notn even to the same places | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | so i doubt it is caused by the CAs specifying something | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | in chromium, https://www.boycottnovell.com/ goes to news.boycottnovell.com | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | and all forms of tuxmachines work correctly | Sep 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz-pi | ^ i fixed this permissions issue, converting px to em | Sep 23 10:08 |
| techrights-sec | It seems ok but the automated parts are still in process | Sep 23 10:13 |
| techrights-sec | thanks | Sep 23 10:13 |
| techrights-sec | biab | Sep 23 10:13 |
| schestowitz-pi | www.boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/rms-hall-of-fame.webm | Sep 23 10:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | becomes https://news.boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/rms-hall-of-fame.webm | Sep 23 10:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | in firefox and in falkon | Sep 23 10:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/rms-hall-of-fame.webm | Sep 23 10:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | becomes news.techrights | Sep 23 10:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | and thus works OK | Sep 23 10:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | finished editing away the "px", made a backup of the file in my homedir | Sep 23 10:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | will write short post in TM now | Sep 23 10:25 |
| techrights-sec | back | Sep 23 10:37 |
| schestowitz-pi | i've brought over ~/images | Sep 23 10:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | and added to it the fireworks image, plus the large version of it from ~ | Sep 23 10:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | so the old static pages start working nicely now | Sep 23 10:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | plus media, pdf, webm | Sep 23 10:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | i will re-apply some dns changes in case it helps a second time around | Sep 23 10:39 |
| techrights-sec | i've added the git polling into the new gemini service | Sep 23 10:49 |
| techrights-sec | i think given what the CSS looks like it's trying to be in the web page, | Sep 23 10:49 |
| techrights-sec | it might be necessary to wrap the content in an additional div element | Sep 23 10:49 |
| techrights-sec | so that the weird background image applies only to it and not to the whole | Sep 23 10:49 |
| techrights-sec | page. | Sep 23 10:49 |
| schestowitz-pi | good idea | Sep 23 10:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | anyway, dns weirdnesses I've put in my notes to worry about later | Sep 23 10:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | i think the timing of ther upgrade is about right | Sep 23 10:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | seeing how many news sources perished this past year | Sep 23 10:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | owrdpress 3.9.x run out of security patches 10 months ago | Sep 23 10:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | anything after that is JS mess with universal back doors (authomatic update) | Sep 23 10:57 |
| techrights-sec | And a leaky backdoor at that, if I understand correctly the updates are | Sep 23 11:04 |
| techrights-sec | done by having the project log into your server via /FTP/ which is unencrypted | Sep 23 11:04 |
| techrights-sec | and the credentials are easily found since they are so exposed. | Sep 23 11:04 |
| techrights-sec | adding //techrights.org/videos/ updated to gemini | Sep 23 11:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | maybe they improved this unauthorised update process | Sep 23 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi | but i last wrote about in in 2013 | Sep 23 11:06 |
| techrights-sec | I checked a year or two ago. But I don't know if that is still a problem | Sep 23 11:08 |
| schestowitz-pi | should i add more test posts to TR beta? | Sep 23 11:50 |
| techrights-sec | Can you think of any more aspects to test? It might be approaching being | Sep 23 11:50 |
| techrights-sec | ready to switch over. | Sep 23 11:50 |
| techrights-sec | bntw, did you alter tuxmachines css? in almost every machine grey covers the bottom part of the pages | Sep 23 11:53 |
| techrights-sec | should anything be redirected to news.techrights.org rather than left techrights.org? | Sep 23 11:53 |
| techrights-sec | address changes can cause issues | Sep 23 11:53 |
| techrights-sec | regarding switchover, the new system seems to work correctly, so flushing and starting over might not | Sep 23 11:53 |
| techrights-sec | be required? | Sep 23 11:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | bntw, did you alter tuxmachines css? in almost every machine grey covers the bottom part of the pages | Sep 23 11:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | should anything be redirected to news.techrights.org rather than left techrights.org? | Sep 23 11:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | address changes can cause issues | Sep 23 11:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | regarding switchover, the new system seems to work correctly, so flushing and starting over might not | Sep 23 11:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | be required? | Sep 23 11:53 |
| techrights-sec | Maybe not, I guess it'd just be a matter of putting in the proper index.shtml | Sep 23 11:53 |
| techrights-sec | in the document root | Sep 23 11:53 |
| schestowitz-pi | wordpress node structure is root/year/something, except pages | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | no overlap with /n/year/ | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | so maybe we should use techrights.org and not news.techrights.org? | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | it was also confusing boycottnobell.com | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | by adding news. subdomain to it | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | i am _extremely_ happy by all this | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | Yes, that was on purpose. | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | Ok. I'll set the redirections for that. | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | All set, I think. | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | (checking bn) | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | Oops | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | you did very great work! | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | thansk | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | and tuxmachines helped weed out many issues, such as encoding issues, as recently as this year | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | biab | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | i think you changed ~/Images" into ~/images in tuxmachines instead of in techrights | Sep 23 12:09 |
| techrights-sec | yes | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | i will change that back | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | that would explain a lot :-) | Sep 23 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | changing back | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | i should pause to ask | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | i changed back images to Images | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | but now I suspect | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | that images should stay images | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | Images needs to be created | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | and some stuff you added to ~/i | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | should go back into ~/Images | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | e.g. F1F1F1E9E9E9CACACAFFFFFF_108.png | Sep 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | i wwant to be sure | Sep 23 12:10 |
| techrights-sec | I think I got them all | Sep 23 12:16 |
| techrights-sec | I'll be less active for a bit now to give my mind a rest but still around | Sep 23 12:16 |
| schestowitz-pi | ok, it looks like you moved them _all_ abck where they came from | Sep 23 12:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | as the site looks ok again | Sep 23 12:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | comparing to mirror on my offsite backup | Sep 23 12:17 |
| techrights-sec | I think I'll consider how to approach migrating the links scripts, those | Sep 23 12:17 |
| techrights-sec | can now be of use again. | Sep 23 12:17 |
| techrights-sec | biab (coffee) | Sep 23 12:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | good idea | Sep 23 12:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | i will prepare more draft articles | Sep 23 12:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | to start with a bang once we are ready | Sep 23 12:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | i am comparing (sanity-checking) i images and Images wrt backup | Sep 23 12:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | top3.png needed to be retrurned as well :-) | Sep 23 12:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | it looks like it's all fine now | Sep 23 12:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | https://techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/A_Short_History_of_Content_Management_Systems_or_Data_Shuffles_.shtml | Sep 23 13:11 |
| schestowitz-pi | checking gemini | Sep 23 13:12 |
| techrights-sec | back | Sep 23 13:12 |
| techrights-sec | thanks that's good news | Sep 23 13:12 |
| techrights-sec | when the main http site switches out index.shtml, should gemini.techrights.org | Sep 23 13:12 |
| techrights-sec | also point to the new system? | Sep 23 13:12 |
| schestowitz-pi | atm there are many pages in the pi that are not yet in new | Sep 23 13:15 |
| schestowitz-pi | we can temporarily have those two capsules and converge later | Sep 23 13:15 |
| schestowitz-pi | stress-testing the site a bit | Sep 23 13:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | to gain more confidence | Sep 23 13:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | seems robust so far | Sep 23 13:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | 1. index page add | Sep 23 13:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | 2. style in meta pages: https://techrights.org/about.shtml and https://techrights.org/irc.shtml | Sep 23 13:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | 3. rss redirect: ~/feed and ~/feed/ ~/xml ~/rss ~/wp-rss.php ~/wp-rss2.php should redirect to https://techrights.org/feed.xml | Sep 23 13:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | 4. I plan to add more articles to TM and TR | Sep 23 13:50 |
| techrights-sec | #2 should be all set with the redirections | Sep 23 14:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | fantastic, just checked them all! | Sep 23 14:41 |
| techrights-sec | great | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | my 5th and 6th posts will hopefully help shorten Daily Links | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | by taking some topics apart, adding text or video about them | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | same in TM | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | we must evolve in this dying www | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | laos: what rianne already posts in TM does not _have_ to be carried across to TR | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | *also | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | as that was very time-consuming | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | the two sites can _complete_ one another | Sep 23 14:44 |
| schestowitz-pi | oh, i see what causes (2) | Sep 23 14:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | i forgot to change the css link | Sep 23 14:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | correcting | Sep 23 14:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | fixed | Sep 23 14:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | rianne only found a few newsowrthy things today for TM | Sep 23 14:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | the news is dying away | Sep 23 14:50 |
| schestowitz-pi | so it's a good idea to write more originals | Sep 23 14:50 |
| techrights-sec | I tidied up the scripts related to TR's Daily Links but will have to fully | Sep 23 15:15 |
| techrights-sec | test them as a work flow later. I've tested them individually so far. | Sep 23 15:15 |
| techrights-sec | That'll have to wait as I will be out for a while in about 45 minutes. | Sep 23 15:15 |
| techrights-sec | It's nice having Git back again. | Sep 23 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi | the new site will be really great | Sep 23 15:19 |
| schestowitz-pi | everything went well do far | Sep 23 15:19 |
| schestowitz-pi | i reassess all old habits and workflows | Sep 23 15:19 |
| schestowitz-pi | irc logs for all past days are still generated | Sep 23 15:19 |
| schestowitz-pi | later on we'll figure out how to automate their publication | Sep 23 15:19 |
| schestowitz-pi | belletins and ipfs also doable, less urgent than restoring old pages, imho | Sep 23 15:19 |
| schestowitz-pi | but at least now tr has an _active_ platform | Sep 23 15:19 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): Qualcomm 10G Fiber Gateway Platform supports Wi-Fi 7 and βService Defined Wi-Fi technologyβ β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Qualcomm_10G_Fiber_Gateway_Platform_supports_Wi_Fi_7_and_Servic.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Qualcomm_10G_Fiber_Gateway_Platform_supports_Wi_Fi_7_and_Servic.gmi β | Sep 23 15:27 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄: Google Android Leftovers β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Android_Leftovers.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Android_Leftovers.gmi β | Sep 23 15:27 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): Stable kernels: Linux 6.5.5, Linux 6.1.55, Linux 5.15.133, Linux 5.10.197, Linux 5.4.257, Linux 4.19.295, and Linux 4.14.326 β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_5_5_Linux_6_1_55_Linux_5_15_133_Linux_5_.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_5_5_Linux_6_1_55_Linux_5_15_133_Linux_5_.gmi | Sep 23 15:27 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄: Google Android Leftovers β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi β | Sep 23 15:59 |
| techrights-news | β² πΏππ πΈπππππππ ⨦ (NEW): Today's ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄ HowTos β¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/23/today_s_howtos.1.gmi β | Sep 23 15:59 |
| techrights-news | Techrights β A Short History of Content Management Systems or Data Shuffles in Boycott Novell and Techrights β¨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/A_Short_History_of_Content_Management_Systems_or_Data_Shuffles_.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/A_Short_History_of_Content_Management_Systems_or_Data_Shuffles_.gmi β | Sep 23 16:06 |
| techrights-news | Techrights β GNU Turns 40 This Coming Week β¨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/GNU_Turns_40_This_Coming_Week.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/GNU_Turns_40_This_Coming_Week.gmi β | Sep 23 16:06 |
| techrights-news | Techrights β Techrights is Upgrading β¨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/Techrights_is_Upgrading.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/Techrights_is_Upgrading.gmi β | Sep 23 16:06 |
| techrights-news | Techrights β The Right to Strike Underutilised by Workers in the Technology Sector β¨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/The_Right_to_Strike_Underutilised_by_Workers_in_the_Technology_.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/The_Right_to_Strike_Underutilised_by_Workers_in_the_Technology_.gmi β | Sep 23 16:06 |
| techrights-news | Techrights β Welcome to the New Techrights β¨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/Welcome_to_the_New_Techrights.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/Welcome_to_the_New_Techrights.gmi β | Sep 23 16:07 |
| techrights-news | Techrights β YouTube Was Never Free Hosting and It Turns Hard-Working People Into Hostages β¨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/YouTube_Was_Never_Free_Hosting_and_It_Turns_Hard_Working_People.shtml | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/YouTube_Was_Never_Free_Hosting_and_It_Turns_Hard_Working_People.gmi β | Sep 23 16:07 |
| techrights-sec | Just fixed the unicode tofu in both sites, I should have done that months | Sep 23 16:08 |
| techrights-sec | ago but misunderstood the cause. | Sep 23 16:08 |
| techrights-sec | the new site. | Sep 23 16:08 |
| techrights-sec | Heading out in about 20 minutes. | Sep 23 16:08 |
| techrights-sec | /test.shtml can be renamed /index.shtml when you are ready to "launch" | Sep 23 16:10 |
| techrights-sec | the new site. | Sep 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | did a script to help with this, we'll save time this way and can write more :-) | Sep 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-pi | i thought those were far arrows, now I know what you meant by tofu | Sep 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz-pi | *fat arrows | Sep 23 16:12 |
| techrights-sec | maybe Russell Brand doesn't have to be mentioned by name in the summnary? | Sep 23 16:13 |
| techrights-sec | No need to give him free advertising regardless of his situation | Sep 23 16:13 |
| schestowitz-pi | will alter the summary | Sep 23 16:13 |
| techrights-sec | Then since the most recent goes first, maybe re-edit the first post so | Sep 23 16:16 |
| techrights-sec | it floats to the top again? | Sep 23 16:16 |
| techrights-sec | Internal server erro 500 ?? | Sep 23 16:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | both sites seem to woprk correctly, which domain? | Sep 23 16:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | oh, i see.. | Sep 23 16:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | when it redirects to the new site it does this | Sep 23 16:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | maybe due to the nature od the target page? | Sep 23 16:28 |
| techrights-sec | It was something about test.shtml being missing, no clue as to why just | Sep 23 16:29 |
| techrights-sec | that would trigger a loop. | Sep 23 16:29 |
| schestowitz-pi | so readding the test.shtml file would fix it? | Sep 23 16:29 |
| techrights-sec | Apparently, I made a hard link to index.shtml and can try reading up on | Sep 23 16:30 |
| techrights-sec | the error later on. Heading out "any minute now" | Sep 23 16:30 |
| techrights-sec | Back in a few hours | Sep 23 16:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | cp index-upgrade-message.html index.html | Sep 23 16:34 |
| schestowitz-pi | at least that avoids the error for now | Sep 23 16:34 |
| schestowitz-pi | looking at apache configs, it relied on that file being there in cases of 404s | Sep 23 16:48 |
| *oarion7 (~ryan@mfmwu5c33pkb2.irc) has joined #tuxmachines | Sep 23 20:55 | |
| *MinceR gives voice to oarion7 | Sep 23 21:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-pi: Is Lobsterfest back in #techrights? | Sep 23 22:37 |
| techrights-sec | Should the server time zone be in the UK? | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | # timedatectl | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | Local time: Sat 2023-09-23 14:08:31 EDT | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | Universal time: Sat 2023-09-23 18:08:31 UTC | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | RTC time: Sat 2023-09-23 18:08:31 | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | Time zone: America/New_York (EDT, -0400) | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | System clock synchronized: yes | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | NTP service: active | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | RTC in local TZ: no | Sep 23 23:54 |
| techrights-sec | afk | Sep 23 23:54 |
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