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schestowitz-piDaemonFC: who do ypu suspect?Sep 24 00:03
schestowitz-pichanging server TZ, i think, would helpSep 24 00:11
schestowitz-pibut which TZ to?Sep 24 00:11
DaemonFCOh, two recent IRC Cloud and Web IRC App users.Sep 24 00:14
DaemonFCOne is in PST, which is Matt GULAG's normal time zone.Sep 24 00:14
DaemonFCThe other is neither in Matt's nor in Lobsta's.Sep 24 00:14
DaemonFCNeither have done anything overtly malicious yet, but they are very chatty.Sep 24 00:14
DaemonFCThen there's freelife, which I've never seen talk and is always here over a Web App.Sep 24 00:15
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: Lobsta hasn't been on Libera today.Sep 24 00:29
DaemonFCI wonder if moonmoon he/him/awoo got rid of da lobsta.Sep 24 00:33
MinceRmaybe even MICROS~1 mooks get an occasional day offSep 24 00:35
techrights-newsTechrights – Slanderous Media Campaigns Trying to Link Linux to 'Backdoors' ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/Slanderous_Media_Campaigns_Trying_to_Link_Linux_to_Backdoors.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23/Slanderous_Media_Campaigns_Trying_to_Link_Linux_to_Backdoors.gmi ∎Sep 24 01:13
techrights-newsTechrights – The New Techrights Will be Much Faster ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/The_New_Techrights_Will_be_Much_Faster.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/The_New_Techrights_Will_be_Much_Faster.gmi ∎Sep 24 01:13
techrights-newsTechrights – Yesterday in the 'Sister Site', Tux Machines (10 More Stories) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Yesterday_in_the_Sister_Site_Tux_Machines_10_More_Stories.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Yesterday_in_the_Sister_Site_Tux_Machines_10_More_Stories.gmi ∎Sep 24 01:52
techrights-newsTechrights – Upgrade and Migration Status ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Upgrade_and_Migration_Status.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Upgrade_and_Migration_Status.gmi ∎Sep 24 01:58
schestowitz-piBST (ending) is a PITA because of leaps and double timingSep 24 02:04
schestowitz-piUTC better?Sep 24 02:04
MinceRyesSep 24 02:08
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Still covering up for Microsoft by refusing to explain the root cause of this? ☞ https://www.michigandaily.com/podcasts/u-ms-digital-blackout/Sep 24 02:24
schestowitz-pisigh, so glad the concept of bulletin cuttoff will be no more, it caused me to rush some things outSep 24 02:33
schestowitz-piin fact, i can think of ways to improve the bulletins in the future, but it's not a high priority atmSep 24 02:33
schestowitz-piMinceR: will change soonSep 24 02:33
*oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.)Sep 24 02:42
DaemonFChttps://social.treehouse.systems/@where_the_rider/111112520736755391Sep 24 03:25
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: ^Sep 24 03:25
DaemonFCBlowback against Ariadne.Sep 24 03:25
DaemonFCWho apparently has also been trollmobbing an "LGBTQ" Mastodon server.Sep 24 03:27
techrights-newsTechrights – The Future of the Web is not the Web ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/The_Future_of_the_Web_is_not_the_Web.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/The_Future_of_the_Web_is_not_the_Web.gmi ∎Sep 24 03:30
techrights-secok let's change the server to UTC thenSep 24 04:03
techrights-secthat's a rather common (IMO) practice and very usefulSep 24 04:03
schestowitz-pii got my pace backSep 24 04:04
schestowitz-pihealth improvingSep 24 04:04
schestowitz-pion a roll this wekeendSep 24 04:04
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: Sep 24 04:07
schestowitz-pi"comparing an lgbt queer instance to kiwi farms is FIVE MILLION steps TOO FAR. '"Sep 24 04:07
schestowitz-pitechrights never wrote about trans issuesSep 24 04:07
schestowitz-piat allSep 24 04:08
schestowitz-pi38k+ blog postsSep 24 04:08
schestowitz-piand somehow techrights now "like kiwi farms"Sep 24 04:08
DaemonFCLobsta: "Proficiency in technology, including Microsoft Word, Outlook, Excel and PowerPoint."Sep 24 04:10
schestowitz-pi:)Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piarchiving:Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pi"Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pinot even a subtoot anymore except that I'm not hashtagging the shit that's going on because I'm yelling into the void not trying to get attention. any attention that comes from this is secondary I just need to vent.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pithat's the warning because I'm not putting a content warning on this, but it's about exactly what you think it's about. I probably should use a content warning but it'll get collapsed for being long anyway.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piI'm tired.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piI'm sick of this fucking bullshit happening and the meta has already had a huge actual impact in my life. because I was so distressed by the things that happened a week ago? that I actually crashed a fucking car on the freeway going home. because you and your little clique decided that accusing a queer, Jewish, multiply disabled person of harassment and racism was fun times lala land, but go off how your shit sucks and you're tired of this. WE'Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piRE ALL TIRED OF IT but you're the one who keeps driving it forwards. I've got a whole bunch of new points on my driver's license and an auto insurance rate hike that will play the world's tiniest violin for you if that'll make you feel better. I've also got therapy bills you could volunteer to pay if you suddenly grow a conscience. Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piI didn't know that "drama" was a racist dog whistle and you're the last person that I'm going to believe telling me it is. Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pilike dude, that's what therapy is for. Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pigo, get a therapist. talk to them. do the actual fucking self-work that you claim to have been doing. start there and then come back in a year, because doing the work takes time and doesn't happen overnight.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-picomparing an lgbt queer instance to kiwi farms is FIVE MILLION steps TOO FAR. Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pithat's a hate site that has actually caused the deaths of people, so unlesswhat you're doing here is a veiled threat to unalive yourself? you're just making more drama.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piand yes, at this point I'm using that word deliberately because that's what this is. it's a plot that belongs in a Greek play, not being acted out on the internet in the year 5784 for fuck's sake. Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piyou try to claim that you've demonstrated patience and understanding but what you've actually demonstrated is egoistic, self-centred vanity making the whole damn universe about you as if it's 2017 again.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piyou hate fedi that much? you can leave it. which I know, is rich coming from a relative newcomer and a relative nobody like me. which again, there's your ego because ideally we'd all be nobodies, equally, but this is the you show and you have to be the main character. guess what?Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pino one's forcing you to stay, and your project, however well-intentioned I do think it was when it started? has made things temporarily infinitely WORSE. if you want to compare things to the fruit farms then maybe you want to compare yourself, because your clique of allies who carry water for you without thinking twice what they're doing has been mass-reporting and harassing anyone who so much as lifts a finger or bats an eyelash in disagreement Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piwith you. Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pidon't make me tap the sign, disagreement by itself is not racism any more than disagreement by itself is antisemitism. I have the same objections no matter who pulls the boy who cried wolf song and dance, one trick pony show, whatever you want to call it I'm not impressed with the tactic and I've seen right through it.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piand that sort of harassment from your followers has been aimed at majority trans and queer instances. the same sort of people that the fruit farms target, COINCIDENTALLY enough.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pithere's no huge loss happening when you do.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pibite me.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pi23h *Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pihwær cwom magoSep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pi@where_the_rider@treehouse.systemsSep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pihow fucking disrespectful to the memories of the people that the fruit farm has been responsible for the deaths of.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pihow fucking dare you.Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pi23 Sept 2023, 05:15 · · 11 · 25Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piAriadne Conill 🐰Sep 24 04:11
schestowitz-pi@ariadneSep 24 04:11
schestowitz-piENSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi@where_the_rider it is disappointing that they have gotten this desperate to appear to be "the good guys" that they would use such a naked bad faith plea to authoritySep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi21hSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pihwær cwom magoSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi@where_the_riderSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-piENSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi@ariadne I hadn't gotten over the rage and grief that seeing the original post brought up to the front of my mind enough to frame it in that manner, but yes. disappointing, but at this point not surprising.Sep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi21hSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pisadmac356Sep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi@sadmac356@restless.systemsSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-piENSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi@where_the_rider yeeeeep it really isSep 24 04:12
schestowitz-pi"Sep 24 04:12
DaemonFCAriadne is just comparing everything to Kiwi Farms.Sep 24 04:12
DaemonFCIncluding a GAY MASTODON SERVER.Sep 24 04:12
techrights-secafkSep 24 04:13
techrights-secok let's change the server to UTC thenSep 24 04:13
techrights-secthat's a rather common (IMO) practice and very usefulSep 24 04:13
techrights-secgreat that health is improving, stay carefulSep 24 04:13
techrights-secI will now set the server to UTCSep 24 04:13
techrights-sectimezone is now set to ITCSep 24 04:13
techrights-sec^ UTCSep 24 04:13
techrights-secIt's about control and trying to wrest control of sites and, when possibleSep 24 04:13
techrights-secthem crushing and silencing women.  Sep 24 04:13
techrights-secThose appear to be their two goals and often overlap.   Sep 24 04:13
schestowitz-piwhat triggered the deplatforming was a post by a woman, rianneSep 24 04:13
schestowitz-piresponding to a nasty crazy manSep 24 04:14
schestowitz-piwho attacked her viciouslySep 24 04:14
DaemonFCThe schestowitz in the Libera #techrights has an IP That resolves to BT in London.Sep 24 04:14
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: that is meSep 24 04:14
schestowitz-pii am parked there out of tempoary necessitySep 24 04:14
schestowitz-pitalking to some peopleSep 24 04:14
DaemonFCIf you had stayed there then they would have ran us off Libera too.Sep 24 04:14
techrights-secYepSep 24 04:15
techrights-secAlso remember that Rowling only got trouble from  the troons once she Sep 24 04:15
techrights-secverbally slapped down the Tories very prominently and with great success.Sep 24 04:15
techrights-sec(If I remember which political party correctly)Sep 24 04:15
schestowitz-piyes, rowling has no interest in the already suicidal subculturerSep 24 04:17
schestowitz-piit was foisted upon her by abusive comments in social control mediaSep 24 04:17
schestowitz-piand was she got triggered/provokedSep 24 04:17
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: better to remain there with that username for a bitSep 24 04:17
schestowitz-pithe other week the Ontario Criminal(TM) hijacked this nickSep 24 04:17
schestowitz-piand spewed out praise for UnabomberSep 24 04:17
schestowitz-piusaing my nameSep 24 04:17
schestowitz-piand now, after they K-LINED the Ontario Criminal(TM) Sep 24 04:18
schestowitz-pi(the Ontario Criminal(TM)  is BAN-EVADING)Sep 24 04:18
schestowitz-piLibera staff takes INSTRUCTIONS from Ontario Criminal(TM) Sep 24 04:18
schestowitz-pithe ironySep 24 04:18
schestowitz-pif* em!Sep 24 04:18
techrights-secThe party stands to gain by silencing critics but not having to suffer theSep 24 04:19
techrights-secblowback for having done so directly.  Similar for the anti-FOSS actvitiesSep 24 04:19
techrights-secby varios nation states.  They, like m$, keep 2 degrees of separation betweenSep 24 04:19
techrights-secthem and the target.  Sep 24 04:19
techrights-secGonna ramp up with the links again today and do a partial test of the updatedSep 24 04:19
techrights-secscripts, but first have to harvest.  Sep 24 04:19
DaemonFCLobsta bailed out this morning.Sep 24 04:20
DaemonFCI guess they either don't know  I'm back over lots of things that will be difficult to cancel without disallowing cloud IRC, VPNs, and Tor entirely.Sep 24 04:21
DaemonFCOr gave up.Sep 24 04:21
schestowitz-pitechrights-sec: Sep 24 04:23
schestowitz-pi2 hours from now i head off to the marketSep 24 04:23
schestowitz-piltely it did not have glowing discounts for foodSep 24 04:23
schestowitz-pibut on a good day i can find other valuable stuffSep 24 04:23
schestowitz-pithe prices of food at the auction shot up, several vendors reluctantly admitted to meSep 24 04:23
schestowitz-pi2 weeks ago i got a bacteria water treatment agen t for the fishSep 24 04:23
schestowitz-pi50 pence instead of 27 pounds (RRP)Sep 24 04:23
schestowitz-pii might double-mask againSep 24 04:23
schestowitz-pii value my health more nowSep 24 04:23
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: he lost almost every abuse account he made against meSep 24 04:24
schestowitz-pi5 or 7 accountsSep 24 04:24
schestowitz-piinc. blogsSep 24 04:24
schestowitz-pithe mods could see he was running a campaign  of harassmentSep 24 04:24
DaemonFCAmelia's ConjectureSep 24 04:24
schestowitz-pianyway, i'm back to writing nowSep 24 04:24
schestowitz-piyes, that blog is doneSep 24 04:24
schestowitz-pipure libelSep 24 04:24
DaemonFCHe's using ProtonVPN.Sep 24 04:25
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: They took down the one about me too.Sep 24 04:27
schestowitz-pii am happy everything is "kiwi farms" nowSep 24 04:31
schestowitz-pirendering this analogy moot and meaninglessSep 24 04:32
schestowitz-pithe grown-ups can carry on goingSep 24 04:32
schestowitz-pibtw, rianne noticed you stopped writingSep 24 04:32
DaemonFCNo, I didn't.Sep 24 04:32
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: I posted twice today.Sep 24 04:34
schestowitz-piahaSep 24 04:35
schestowitz-piwelcome back !!Sep 24 04:36
DaemonFCAriadne Conill 🐰Sep 24 04:43
DaemonFC@ariadneSep 24 04:43
DaemonFCENSep 24 04:43
DaemonFCMissed one of the VLANs earlier, now all of it is taken offline.  If he asks, I’ll supply his disk images but other than that it’s not going back online on my network.Sep 24 04:43
DaemonFCAriadne Conill 🐰Sep 24 04:43
DaemonFC@ariadneSep 24 04:43
DaemonFCENSep 24 04:43
DaemonFCInterestingly haven’t heard a peep out of Roy about any of this, surely by now he is aware of the disconnection.Sep 24 04:43
DaemonFCWouter VerhelstSep 24 04:44
DaemonFC@wouter@pleroma.debian.socialSep 24 04:44
DaemonFC@ariadneSep 24 04:44
DaemonFCAnd there was much rejoicing. Thank you.Sep 24 04:44
DaemonFC1dSep 24 04:44
DaemonFCWouter VerhelstSep 24 04:44
DaemonFC@wouter@pleroma.debian.socialSep 24 04:44
DaemonFC@ariadneSep 24 04:44
DaemonFCIt now has a blurb about 'upgrading' to a static site generator and that it will 'take time' for everything to be up again. Suuuuuure.Sep 24 04:44
schestowitz-pigossip in social control mediaSep 24 04:59
schestowitz-pibtw, the hearsay is also wrongSep 24 04:59
schestowitz-pi[04:43] <DaemonFC> Interestingly haven’t heard a peep out of Roy about any of this, surely by now he is aware of the disconnection.Sep 24 04:59
schestowitz-piforgot to check emailSep 24 04:59
schestowitz-pirianne and I both sent emailsSep 24 05:00
schestowitz-pianyway, it's under control nowSep 24 05:00
schestowitz-pilet's look aheadSep 24 05:00
techrights-newsTechrights – Not Your Daily Driver: Don't Build With Rust or Adopt Rust-based Software If You Value Long-Term Reliance ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Not_Your_Daily_Driver_Don_t_Build_With_Rust_or_Adopt_Rust_based.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Not_Your_Daily_Driver_Don_t_Build_With_Rust_or_Adopt_Rust_based.gmi ∎Sep 24 05:01
techrights-newsTechrights – Personal Identification on the 'Modern' Net ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Personal_Identification_on_the_Modern_Net.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Personal_Identification_on_the_Modern_Net.gmi ∎Sep 24 05:01
techrights-newsTechrights – IBM Neglecting Users of GNU/Linux on Laptops and Desktops ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/IBM_Neglecting_Users_of_GNU_Linux_on_Laptops_and_Desktops.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/IBM_Neglecting_Users_of_GNU_Linux_on_Laptops_and_Desktops.gmi ∎Sep 24 05:01
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: Just send Ariadne a note.Sep 24 05:09
DaemonFC"I am aware of what happened. And don't call me Shirley."Sep 24 05:10
DaemonFCMinceR: ^Sep 24 05:10
DaemonFChttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=ixljWVyPby0Sep 24 05:40
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kernel: eBPF and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Kernel_eBPF_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Kernel_eBPF_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 24 05:52
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 24 05:52
techrights-newsTechrights – Red Hat Pretends to Have "Community Commitment to Open Source" While Scuttling the Fedora Community (Among Others) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Red_Hat_Pretends_to_Have_Community_Commitment_to_Open_Source_Wh.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Red_Hat_Pretends_to_Have_Community_Commitment_to_Open_Source_Wh.gmi ∎Sep 24 05:52
techrights-secmanual operation of the Links scripts went ok, will try the more automatedSep 24 06:24
techrights-secapproach tomorrow, the work flow is not really set up to make provisions forSep 24 06:24
techrights-secskipping days.  I'd rather not make the shell scripts complicatedSep 24 06:24
techrights-newsTechrights – Gemini and Web in Tandem ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Gemini_and_Web_in_Tandem.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Gemini_and_Web_in_Tandem.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:36
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kernel: eBPF and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Kernel_eBPF_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Kernel_eBPF_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 5 Operating Systems You Should Try If You're New To Raspberry Pi ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/5_Operating_Systems_You_Should_Try_If_You_re_New_To_Raspberry_P.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/5_Operating_Systems_You_Should_Try_If_You_re_New_To_Raspberry_P.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD: What Is the Difference, Which Is Best ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/OpenBSD_vs_FreeBSD_What_Is_the_Difference_Which_Is_Best.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/OpenBSD_vs_FreeBSD_What_Is_the_Difference_Which_Is_Best.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 13 Best Free and Open Source Load Balancers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/13_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Load_Balancers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/13_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Load_Balancers.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: Amiga, Fairphone, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Open_Hardware_Amiga_Fairphone_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Open_Hardware_Amiga_Fairphone_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Software Releases and FOSS Weekly ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Software_Releases_and_FOSS_Weekly.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/24/Software_Releases_and_FOSS_Weekly.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:38
techrights-newsTechrights – Forty Years of GNU and the Free Software Movement ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Forty_Years_of_GNU_and_the_Free_Software_Movement.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Forty_Years_of_GNU_and_the_Free_Software_Movement.gmi ∎Sep 24 06:50
techrights-secI now have a (non-useful but essential) proof-of-concept script whichSep 24 09:04
techrights-seccan retrive the WordPress posts along with the post's author's name.  It'llSep 24 09:04
techrights-sectake a bit to turn that into something which can retrieve the body text fromSep 24 09:04
techrights-seceach post and turn that into HTML.  Then I will have to figure out how to Sep 24 09:04
techrights-secextact the images.  Sep 24 09:04
schestowitz-pithe hard part might be handling [crefSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pithere must be like 100,000 of theseSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pianother one is [videoSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pibut that is more consistentSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-piand not that many of them, maybe 1000Sep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pi[cref WORDPRESS_NODE_ID]Sep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pior [cref WORDPRESS_NODE_ID some text] -> <a href="">some text</a>                Sep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pii _think_ those cover everything, but will carry on thinkingSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pivery few posts are "rich" htmlSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pisome posts are just revisions and draftsSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pithe status mattersSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pi_ALL_ peripheral files are fully in place and ready, the hard part, i think, will be [crefSep 24 09:13
schestowitz-pibecause for each you'd need to check the title+URL (relative)Sep 24 09:14
schestowitz-pinon-blog posts, i.e. pages, have their own URLsSep 24 09:14
schestowitz-pi(am in good mood for _first time_ since free-hosting-lgbt-conditions-apply pulled the plug)Sep 24 09:14
schestowitz-pirryan shows me that now every site that does not accept "they" are singular is "kiwi farm"Sep 24 09:14
schestowitz-pinever hesistating to think, maybe the crazy ones are _us_. just saved 200-300 all on my own in the market,Sep 24 09:14
schestowitz-pican help save the hosting bill)Sep 24 09:14
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: It was obvious to me Ariadne was unstable and would be trouble soon.Sep 24 09:20
DaemonFCI tried to PM you that I saw Ariadne talking to Matthew on Mastodon and things may not work out so well, about 3-4 weeks ago.Sep 24 09:20
DaemonFChttps://ariadne.space/2022/12/03/building-fair-webs-of-trust-by-leveraging-the-ocap-model/Sep 24 09:23
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi: Ariadne posts what's basically a browser extension to mark sites "anti-trans" and stuff.Sep 24 09:24
techrights-seci'm not sure what a kiwi farm but roving bands of cranks are going toSep 24 09:32
techrights-secuse whatever means they can to brigade against Softwere Freedom all theSep 24 09:32
techrights-secwhile distracting from the main attack focus.Sep 24 09:32
techrights-secs/Softwere/Software/Sep 24 09:32
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: yes, that was notedSep 24 09:33
schestowitz-piwe did back up more regularlySep 24 09:33
schestowitz-piand tread carefullySep 24 09:33
techrights-secCrazy is as crazy does. :(Sep 24 09:42
techrights-secHe was getting progressively more unstable and had already threatened to pullSep 24 09:42
techrights-secthe plug several times before.  That's when TR and TM should have moved,  but Sep 24 09:42
techrights-secat least some technical debt has begun to be addressed.  Sep 24 09:42
techrights-secLooking at how MariaDB handles UTF-8 at the moment.  That has to be done firestSep 24 09:42
techrights-secfirst before continuing on the extraction.  Not sure how the comments willl beSep 24 09:42
techrights-secretrieved, but that comes later.Sep 24 09:42
techrights-secIn tr-old, were the comments flat or nested?Sep 24 09:42
schestowitz-pithose were nested most of the timeSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-piregarding time of departure, i did secure access to all the dataSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-pidespite aggravations from vandalsSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-piand we enjoyed some more years of cpu-intensive hosting that is free from lossy conversionsSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-pi[cref was always gonna be trouble because, as noted the other day (I shared 2+ links)Sep 24 09:54
schestowitz-pithat extension became extinct and not compatible with future versionsSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-piit's the glue that holds together many much-needed references, cross-referencing between pagesSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-piona alternative i had in mind was, one day we can set up an old OS with php 5 or 6, then run wordpressSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-pion it and scrape the pagesSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-pii've worked on this since my 20sSep 24 09:54
schestowitz-pi[cref was always the biggest "debt" in my mindSep 24 09:54
techrights-secYes the hosting was of great help, but it is too bad he is burning bridges.Sep 24 09:55
techrights-secStill looing at UTF-8 stuff.  Can you look in the dump at the wp_posts table, record with  ID==98?  That is onSep 24 09:55
techrights-sece example of unicode.  I'm not able to get itSep 24 09:55
techrights-secto render properly either in the MariaDB clien or in Perl.  So I suspect that the problem might be in the dunmSep 24 09:55
techrights-secmp.  That's not an insurmountable problem butSep 24 09:55
techrights-secadds another layer to the data recovery task.  Sep 24 09:55
techrights-sec]Sep 24 09:55
schestowitz-pimariadb runs with that same DB on the server atmSep 24 09:59
schestowitz-pii doubt the db dump is corruptedSep 24 09:59
schestowitz-pibecause integrity issues were not reported when i checked   Sep 24 09:59
schestowitz-piyou can also try the dump from 1809 or 1709 for comparisonSep 24 09:59
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techrights-secIt uses ISO-8859 by default.  The data structure is almost certainly okSep 24 10:13
techrights-secThe charset may not beSep 24 10:13
techrights-secOk I may try the other dumps later, but working with this one for a while longerSep 24 10:13
techrights-secImports take a dreadfully long time.  Sep 24 10:13
techrights-secboycottn_wrdp1Sep 24 10:13
techrights-secwp_posts.ID=98Sep 24 10:13
techrights-secuse boycottn_wrdp1; Sep 24 10:13
techrights-secselect ID,post_title FROM wp_posts WHERE ID=98;Sep 24 10:13
techrights-sec^ just the last two linesSep 24 10:13
schestowitz-pii cannot post what those symbols correspond toSep 24 10:13
schestowitz-pithose are "smart" quotesSep 24 10:14
techrights-secYes but in the dump here they are munged.  Sep 24 10:14
techrights-secFetching the dump from the 18th, just to checkSep 24 10:14
schestowitz-pimaybe the version of mysql/mariadb mattersSep 24 10:17
schestowitz-pior the import parametersSep 24 10:17
schestowitz-pibut...Sep 24 10:17
schestowitz-piseeing it's the same on the serverSep 24 10:17
schestowitz-piand knowing not to put normal quotes in wordpress titles (it causes issues)Sep 24 10:17
schestowitz-pimaybe this one field is at faultSep 24 10:17
techrights-secI figure it's the import parameters, maybe.Sep 24 10:27
techrights-secFor now, I will return to looking at the perl conversion instead as that Sep 24 10:27
techrights-secis someting I can make progress withSep 24 10:27
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schestowitz-pi> HiSep 24 10:45
schestowitz-pi> PFA the public key. please place it on the server. its a new key.Sep 24 10:45
schestowitz-piOK, try logging into tuxmachines now.Sep 24 10:45
schestowitz-pialias add=add-and-refresh-from-db.shSep 24 10:45
schestowitz-pialias update=update-and-refresh-from-db.shSep 24 10:45
schestowitz-pialias u=tm-scale-and-process-image.plSep 24 10:45
schestowitz-pialias upload=tm-scale-and-process-image.plSep 24 10:45
techrights-secbiabSep 24 10:45
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techrights-secbackSep 24 11:02
techrights-secchecking    Sep 24 11:02
techrights-secrecall the mods for the group 'editorial'Sep 24 11:02
techrights-secwait, found a bug in one of the scripts ... that is the problem Sep 24 11:08
techrights-secchecking ...Sep 24 11:08
schestowitz-piok, keeping hands offSep 24 11:08
schestowitz-piok, keeping hands offSep 24 11:10
techrights-secall set, log in should work now.Sep 24 11:10
techrights-seceg Sep 24 11:10
techrights-secssh ccccccccccccccc@tuxmachines.org addSep 24 11:10
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*Now talking on #tuxmachinesSep 24 11:29
techrights-secor Sep 24 11:29
techrights-secssh -t ssh ccccccc@tuxmachines.org https://tuxmachines.org/...Sep 24 11:29
techrights-secthe former adds a new post, the latter can edit an existing post given the URLSep 24 11:29
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schestowitz-piI did wonder about thatSep 24 11:30
schestowitz-pitrying my first batch of Daily Links in TR-newSep 24 11:30
schestowitz-pii try not to replicate things across TM and TRSep 24 11:30
schestowitz-pias that would save us timeSep 24 11:30
techrights-secmaybe both options could use -t to force ptySep 24 11:30
schestowitz-piwoot!Sep 24 11:36
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/n/2023/09/24/Leftover_Links_24_09_2023_Russia_COVID_and_More.shtml#m2410333104Sep 24 11:36
schestowitz-piTR-new will work more with pocockSep 24 13:03
schestowitz-piwe can nowSep 24 13:03
schestowitz-pii already have many notes pertaining to collabs he wanted to doSep 24 13:03
schestowitz-pi(context: see [ast hour's TR posts)Sep 24 13:03
MinceR"everything i don't like is kiwifarms"Sep 24 13:06
*MinceR gives voice to libertybox__ schestowitz-TR libertybox_Sep 24 13:07
*MinceR gives voice to Techrights-sec2 roy_ libertyboxSep 24 13:07
techrights-secThat's excellent news!Sep 24 13:16
techrights-seccheckingSep 24 13:16
techrights-secI wonder if the dl > dt at the bottom of the TR pages might also show theSep 24 13:16
techrights-secposter's name too?  Nah.  On second thought, even the guest posts are bySep 24 13:16
techrights-seconly a few handful and the guest post's author is not recorded in the metadataSep 24 13:16
schestowitz-pi99.x% of the posts are simple htmlSep 24 13:18
schestowitz-pia few had me dump more complex (imported) htmlSep 24 13:19
schestowitz-pipost authors does not matterSep 24 13:19
schestowitz-piit's INLINE in the HTML when it's importantSep 24 13:19
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techrights-secYeah, I was just forgetting if there was any machine-readable component.Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secSince there isn't the question is moot.  Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secI have a preliminary, proof-of-concept extraction + html conversion,Sep 24 13:37
techrights-sechere is an example: http://techrights.org/o/2016/10/26/vp1-e-mail-leak/index.shtmlSep 24 13:37
techrights-secThe unicode is a problem /in the database/ itself, not perl.  Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secHowever, if the pieces can all be identified, substitutions can be made on Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secthe fly.  Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secA new CSS is needed for the old posts.  Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secThe /o hierarchy can be a permanent redirection using RedirectMatch,Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secbut later after some more details are worked out.  Sep 24 13:37
techrights-secavailable on-and-off for the next two hours and then away for some hours   Sep 24 13:37
techrights-sec(Comments have not yet been extracted, I can't look at that until tomorrow)Sep 24 13:37
techrights-sec(Same for categories)Sep 24 13:37
schestowitz-pithis is _super_ cencouragingSep 24 13:41
schestowitz-piesp. if this is 100% driven from the dataSep 24 13:41
schestowitz-pi" [cref 89343 boasted "Sep 24 13:41
schestowitz-piin this case, the number is the DB primary key for wp_posts iircSep 24 13:41
schestowitz-pitext text up until the closing "]"Sep 24 13:41
schestowitz-pigoes in as anchor of the URLSep 24 13:41
schestowitz-pianything else is simpleSep 24 13:41
schestowitz-pi[video] can even be replaced more easily Sep 24 13:41
schestowitz-pii think those are the only two wordpress syntax things i ever usedSep 24 13:41
techrights-secSurprisingly it was just a half page of perl codeSep 24 13:44
techrights-secaccessing the wp tables directly with a single join querySep 24 13:44
techrights-secwhen I find where the categories are I can add those, same for the commentsSep 24 13:44
schestowitz-picategories are numbersSep 24 13:44
schestowitz-piwp_categories iircSep 24 13:44
schestowitz-pithen wach row in wp_postsSep 24 13:44
schestowitz-piis linked to the numbers, iircSep 24 13:44
techrights-secIt takes a few seconds to generate the htmlSep 24 13:47
techrights-secIs that an internal link?Sep 24 13:47
techrights-secOk, I can probably figure that out tomorrowSep 24 13:47
schestowitz-pifor sun has come outSep 24 14:02
schestowitz-piand just when i said hopefully a saleSep 24 14:02
schestowitz-pione immediately happened :-)Sep 24 14:02
schestowitz-pii was thinking, even a prototype of the old wordpress pages might be worth putting online as a first, rough p[Sep 24 14:02
schestowitz-piassSep 24 14:02
schestowitz-pijust to prevent search engines dumping those URLs from indexesSep 24 14:02
schestowitz-pilater a refined version can be swiped inSep 24 14:02
schestowitz-pipreserving the ranking is easier than regaining the rankingsSep 24 14:02
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DaemonFCA "Debian developer" is glad at what Ariadne did. There's like a million of those though and they'll obviously give it to anyone. "Non-Uploading Developer" Molly de Blanc.Sep 24 22:31
DaemonFCFor example.Sep 24 22:31
MinceRwhat do deadian "developers" do anywaySep 24 22:42
psydruidNon-Developing DeveloperSep 24 22:42
MinceR:>Sep 24 22:43
techrights-secA redirection can be put in place for the top level directories which match Sep 24 22:58
techrights-secthe years 2006 - 2023Sep 24 22:58
techrights-secHeading out in about 30 min and multitasking atm, so I won't try that myselfSep 24 22:58
techrights-secuntil tomorrow but it's a good plan. Sep 24 22:58
techrights-secwhich table are the [cref ...] numbers in?Sep 24 22:58
techrights-secback in some hoursSep 24 22:58
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