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techrights-newsTechrights — Welcome to the New Techrights ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ ∎Dec 24 03:27
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Saturday, December 23, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/irc-log-231223.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/irc-log-231223.gmi ∎Dec 24 03:27
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Dec 24 03:27
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Dec 24 03:28
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techrights-sec2afkDec 24 04:23
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  autoconf-2.72 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/autoconf_2_72_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/autoconf_2_72_released.gmi ∎Dec 24 04:30
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  The Wine development release 9.0-rc3 is now available. ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/The_Wine_development_release_9_0_rc3_is_now_available.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/The_Wine_development_release_9_0_rc3_is_now_available.gmi ∎Dec 24 04:35
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Wave: 21th Century Terminal Emulator Designed for Gen Z ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Wave_21th_Century_Terminal_Emulator_Designed_for_Gen_Z.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Wave_21th_Century_Terminal_Emulator_Designed_for_Gen_Z.gmi ∎Dec 24 04:43
techrights-sec2gm, and merry christmasDec 24 04:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Dec 24 04:53
schestowitz-pi2to you as well!Dec 24 04:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  PostgreSQL: TCapture Replication Server 1.0 Beta ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/PostgreSQL_TCapture_Replication_Server_1_0_Beta.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/PostgreSQL_TCapture_Replication_Server_1_0_Beta.gmi ∎Dec 24 04:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Some New Free Software Project Mini-Overviews at Medevel ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/14/Some_New_Free_Software_Project_Mini_Overviews_at_Medevel.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/14/Some_New_Free_Software_Project_Mini_Overviews_at_Medevel.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:00
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Announcing Agama 7 and openSUSE Tumbleweed Weekly Review ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Announcing_Agama_7_and_openSUSE_Tumbleweed_Weekly_Review.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Announcing_Agama_7_and_openSUSE_Tumbleweed_Weekly_Review.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:02
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Open Hardware: Arduino and Raspberry Pi Pico ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_Raspberry_Pi_Pico.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_Raspberry_Pi_Pico.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:15
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Mozilla's Demise and Google's Insecure, Bloated Browser ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Mozilla_s_Demise_and_Google_s_Insecure_Bloated_Browser.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Mozilla_s_Demise_and_Google_s_Insecure_Bloated_Browser.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:20
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Microsoft and Apple Problems ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Microsoft_and_Apple_Problems.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Microsoft_and_Apple_Problems.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:27
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:32
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  F39 Election Results and FSD meeting recap ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/F39_Election_Results_and_FSD_meeting_recap.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/F39_Election_Results_and_FSD_meeting_recap.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:34
schestowitz-pi2despite holidays the sites get a lot of trafficDec 24 05:34
schestowitz-pi2and i think the 'backlash' brought us new regulars to ircDec 24 05:34
schestowitz-pi2we'll be busy today, out and aboutDec 24 05:34
schestowitz-pi2the freezer was emptied, intentionally, this past monthDec 24 05:34
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 24/12/2023: Kangaroo Court Update and a Merry Christmas ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Links_24_12_2023_Kangaroo_Court_Update_and_a_Merry_Christmas.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Links_24_12_2023_Kangaroo_Court_Update_and_a_Merry_Christmas.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:39
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techrights-sec2Will be progressively busier here as the day passes.    Dec 24 05:45
schestowitz-pi2thanks for a great year! tr ime to rest a bitDec 24 05:45
schestowitz-pi2slept 3 hours more than planned..Dec 24 05:45
techrights-sec2 Dec 24 05:45
techrights-sec2Likewise.Dec 24 05:45
schestowitz-pi2      ================================ Input string: makeuseofDec 24 05:47
schestowitz-pi2      ================================ Input string: yewtu.beDec 24 05:47
schestowitz-pi2still deadDec 24 05:47
schestowitz-pi2what we said about makeuseof aged very wellDec 24 05:47
schestowitz-pi2they never responded to me!Dec 24 05:47
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Perl 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Perl_Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Perl_Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 24 05:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Introducing Fedora Asahi Remix 39 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/19/Introducing_Fedora_Asahi_Remix_39.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/19/Introducing_Fedora_Asahi_Remix_39.gmi ∎Dec 24 06:00
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Enlightenment Desktop Sees New Stable Release ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Enlightenment_Desktop_Sees_New_Stable_Release.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Enlightenment_Desktop_Sees_New_Stable_Release.gmi ∎Dec 24 06:05
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Zorin OS 17 Released with Quick Settings Menu, Spatial Desktop Effects, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/20/Zorin_OS_17_Released_with_Quick_Settings_Menu_Spatial_Desktop_E.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/20/Zorin_OS_17_Released_with_Quick_Settings_Menu_Spatial_Desktop_E.gmi ∎Dec 24 06:12
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Linux 6.7-rc7 and a stable kernel ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Linux_6_7_rc7_and_a_stable_kernel.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Linux_6_7_rc7_and_a_stable_kernel.gmi ∎Dec 24 06:12
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> checking urlDec 24 06:15
schestowitz-pi2<Sompi> About the Telia hybrid router and its backdoorsDec 24 06:15
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> on Jun 1, 2019Dec 24 06:15
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> Git statsDec 24 06:15
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> "REQUIREMENTSDec 24 06:15
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> A linux setup would be good ;)"Dec 24 06:16
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> they can try to DMCA itDec 24 06:16
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> they mifgh try to claim it is "old"Dec 24 06:16
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> or "outdated"Dec 24 06:16
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz> "we fixed this"Dec 24 06:16
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Dec 24 06:27
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Dec 24 06:34
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 24 06:35
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Dec 24 07:39
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  GNU Parallel 20231222 ('Sundhnúkagígur') ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/GNU_Parallel_20231222_Sundhnukagigur.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/GNU_Parallel_20231222_Sundhnukagigur.gmi ∎Dec 24 09:00
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  A yearly review - My 52 most favorite apps for Linux for 2024 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/A_yearly_review_My_52_most_favorite_apps_for_Linux_for_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/A_yearly_review_My_52_most_favorite_apps_for_Linux_for_2024.gmi ∎Dec 24 09:04
schestowitz-pi2several people today, in irc and gemini, say they want to quit firefoxDec 24 09:11
schestowitz-pi2(leaving home soon)Dec 24 09:11
schestowitz-pi2finishing daily links round 2Dec 24 09:11
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎Dec 24 09:12
techrights-sec2https://www.postfix.org/smtp-smuggling.html    Dec 24 09:13
techrights-sec2" Unfortunately, criticial information provided by the researcher was not passed on to Postfix maintainers before publication of the attack, otherwise wDec 24 09:13
techrights-sec2e would certainly have convinced SEC Consult to postpone publication until after people had a chance to update their Postfix systems. "Dec 24 09:13
techrights-sec2^ topic ?Dec 24 09:13
techrights-sec2https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12889261/The-REAL-nightmare-Christmas-Covid-rates-double-fortnight-one-16-people-infected-worst-hit-parts-UK.Dec 24 09:13
techrights-sec2htmlDec 24 09:13
schestowitz-pi2topic added, thank youiDec 24 09:15
schestowitz-pi2before rianne left home (mins ago) i said to her I'm going back to _double_ maskingDec 24 09:15
schestowitz-pi2also, tim bray is picky with mask qualityDec 24 09:15
schestowitz-pi2i said it'll likely be part of my face outdoors for 3+ more years, unless we just jog/runDec 24 09:15
schestowitz-pi2    Dec 24 09:15
schestowitz-pi2bray points out anything else is _irrational_. i agree.Dec 24 09:15
schestowitz-pi2herd mentality = apathyDec 24 09:15
schestowitz-pi2biabDec 24 09:15
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/leftovers.gmi ∎Dec 24 09:21
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 24/12/2023: Christmas Layoffs at 'Versus Evil' (Shutdown) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Links_24_12_2023_Christmas_Layoffs_at_Versus_Evil_Shutdown.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Links_24_12_2023_Christmas_Layoffs_at_Versus_Evil_Shutdown.gmi ∎Dec 24 09:26
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  GNU Health Hospital Management 4.4 released! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/GNU_Health_Hospital_Management_4_4_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/GNU_Health_Hospital_Management_4_4_released.gmi ∎Dec 24 09:42
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Free/Libre Alternatives to Google ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Free_Libre_Alternatives_to_Google.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Free_Libre_Alternatives_to_Google.gmi ∎Dec 24 09:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  The Maps and Geo Blog: Christmas Maps 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/The_Maps_and_Geo_Blog_Christmas_Maps_2023.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/The_Maps_and_Geo_Blog_Christmas_Maps_2023.gmi ∎Dec 24 10:34
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Raspberry Pi Projects and News ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Raspberry_Pi_Projects_and_News.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Raspberry_Pi_Projects_and_News.gmi ∎Dec 24 10:37
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Ivan Čukić on C++, This Week in Linux (TWIL), and Hackaday ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Videos_Audiocasts_Shows_Ivan_Cukic_on_C_This_Week_in_Linux_TWIL.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Videos_Audiocasts_Shows_Ivan_Cukic_on_C_This_Week_in_Linux_TWIL.gmi ∎Dec 24 10:57
techrights-sec2https://arenan.yle.fi/1-67089833Dec 24 10:59
techrights-sec2kind of around for the next few hoursDec 24 10:59
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  HandBrake 1.7.2 Improves Automatic Selection of Dolby Vision Level ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/HandBrake_1_7_2_Improves_Automatic_Selection_of_Dolby_Vision_Le.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/HandBrake_1_7_2_Improves_Automatic_Selection_of_Dolby_Vision_Le.gmi ∎Dec 24 13:11
schestowitz-pi2back, and with good newsDec 24 13:18
schestowitz-pi21) only took 30 mins to buy foodDec 24 13:18
schestowitz-pi22) saved over 120 pounds, estimatedDec 24 13:18
schestowitz-pi23) mostly healthy food, which is never guaranteedDec 24 13:18
schestowitz-pi24) lots of nice bell peppersDec 24 13:18
schestowitz-pi2rianne will be happyDec 24 13:18
techrights-sec2Bell peppers are an excellent find there.  There are a great many nice  Dec 24 13:19
techrights-sec2recipes with them.Dec 24 13:19
schestowitz-pi2Not My Department(tm)Dec 24 13:19
schestowitz-pi2i just do the haulsDec 24 13:19
techrights-sec2Bell pepper are a food I miss, they are generally too expensive to buy around  Dec 24 13:35
techrights-sec2here except once or twice a year when on sale.  Dec 24 13:35
techrights-sec2"not my job" : https://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/2014/08/06Dec 24 13:35
schestowitz-pi2the original price is 66p per pepperDec 24 13:39
schestowitz-pi2shockingly, nectarines now cost like mango used to cost, or avocadoDec 24 13:39
schestowitz-pi2I didn't even check the price of the latter twoDec 24 13:39
schestowitz-pi2we need fresher items to mix with seed-based foodDec 24 13:39
schestowitz-pi2currants and cherry tomatoes we did find recently at a major discountDec 24 13:39
schestowitz-pi2i am not willing to blow hundreds of pounds per month for organic materialsDec 24 13:39
schestowitz-pi2they probably will blame "climate  hange" and instruct people to get obese on bescuits and worseDec 24 13:39
schestowitz-pi2i know the real cost of bad diets, those are _NOT_ savings, you pay some other way, laterDec 24 13:39
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techrights-sec2Currants are good in today's climate and in the near future, but thereDec 24 13:43
techrights-sec2are some politics against farming them but I don't know more that that.Dec 24 13:43
techrights-sec2Once, back about 20 years ago, I read some business magazines braggingDec 24 13:43
techrights-sec2that currants were at an all time high in price, yet the farmers wereDec 24 13:43
techrights-sec2plowing under their bushes because the prices they were getting for yearsDec 24 13:43
techrights-sec2had been unviably low.  Dec 24 13:43
schestowitz-pi2funny this cartoon of all things cropped to mindDec 24 13:44
schestowitz-pi2i was thinking wehrner von braunDec 24 13:44
schestowitz-pi2rianne is a super-versatile cookDec 24 13:44
schestowitz-pi2me, i can do basic like tossed eggs and follow instructionsDec 24 13:44
schestowitz-pi2but i lack experience and make mistakes whhen trying new thingsDec 24 13:44
schestowitz-pi2spilled some hot water with the pasta last week as the water level was too highDec 24 13:44
schestowitz-pi2didn't expect the bubblingDec 24 13:44
techrights-sec2Also in Sweden, the beverage company Mer, was bought by Cocacola and Dec 24 13:45
techrights-sec2dropped the juice content of their drings, including currants, from 100%Dec 24 13:45
techrights-sec2to 10%.  Dec 24 13:45
schestowitz-pi2we spoke about something related to this in irc hours agoDec 24 13:47
schestowitz-pi2companies with good brands selling the same items (not!)Dec 24 13:47
schestowitz-pi2but now plasticware made in chinaDec 24 13:47
schestowitz-pi2lasts 2 years, not 20Dec 24 13:47
schestowitz-pi2apparently apple did the sameDec 24 13:47
schestowitz-pi2the high amrgin strategy is short-livedDec 24 13:47
schestowitz-pi2people wake upDec 24 13:47
schestowitz-pi2by then, ceo and board retired alreadyDec 24 13:47
techrights-sec2Tom Lehrer : "Once the rockets are up / Who cares where they come down? / That's not my department / Says Wernher Von Braun"Dec 24 13:48
techrights-sec2yep, "interested in doing 'something with the name'" as they sayDec 24 13:48
techrights-sec2The goods last approximately the duration of the warantee nowadays.Dec 24 13:48
techrights-sec2That is intented and lots of money spend engineering the products toDec 24 13:48
techrights-sec2be that way.  Dec 24 13:48
schestowitz-pi2i think 2024 is when this stereo i use right now turns 30Dec 24 13:49
schestowitz-pi2samsungDec 24 13:49
schestowitz-pi2and my pda will turn 20, though it's the spare oneDec 24 13:49
schestowitz-pi2the original is not in good conditionDec 24 13:49
schestowitz-pi2      Refugees or people who illegally cross borders, HRW? https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/15/refugees-us-shouldnt-pay-price-aid-ukraineDec 24 14:00
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  NuTyX GNU/Linux 23.12.2 available with cards 2.7.2 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/NuTyX_GNU_Linux_23_12_2_available_with_cards_2_7_2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/NuTyX_GNU_Linux_23_12_2_available_with_cards_2_7_2.gmi ∎Dec 24 14:09
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Rhino Linux’s 2023.4 Sets the Stage for a Transformative 2024 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/21/Rhino_Linux_s_2023_4_Sets_the_Stage_for_a_Transformative_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/21/Rhino_Linux_s_2023_4_Sets_the_Stage_for_a_Transformative_2024.gmi ∎Dec 24 14:16
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  postmarketOS 23.12 Brings the GNOME 45 Desktop to Linux Phones and Tablets ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/postmarketOS_23_12_Brings_the_GNOME_45_Desktop_to_Linux_Phones_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/18/postmarketOS_23_12_Brings_the_GNOME_45_Desktop_to_Linux_Phones_.gmi ∎Dec 24 14:21
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schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Activist Publisher Jimmy Lai www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-12-17/landmark-national-security-trial-opens-in-hong-kong-for-prominent-activist-publisher-jimmy-laiDec 24 14:48
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> US media, by referring to him as "Activist Publisher", is not helping his case. Like Boris 'brexit' Johnson complicating the case for a Brit arrested in Iran by saying reckless, dumb, horrible shit.Dec 24 14:48
techrights-sec2Unfortunate framing by media which should know better,  They areDec 24 14:51
techrights-sec2still mostly hanging Assange out to dry tooDec 24 14:51
schestowitz-pi2working families -> working poor -> working hungry: Dec 24 14:51
schestowitz-pi2https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/opinion-food-insecurity-michigan-campuses-crisis-we-need-addressDec 24 14:51
schestowitz-pi2  https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/12/17/feeding-the-future-rethinking-food-security-in-a-climate-altered-landscape/Dec 24 14:51
techrights-sec2https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12893127/hospital-admissions-nutrient-deficiencies-NHS.htmlDec 24 14:54
techrights-sec2the stagnant wages are not mentioned, that's half the problem.Dec 24 14:54
schestowitz-pi2uk case:Dec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2man 80 kgDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2eats bell peppers, apples, working 9-5 no prospects of price concisoucness [sic]Dec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2i know the spelling, but never mindDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2so food that is good can be 7-10 pounds a dayDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2the person might earn 9 an hourDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2minus taxDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi27 or 8Dec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2the man works an hour per day per personDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2for decent foodDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi22 kids, 3 hoursDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2but only working 5 days a weekDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2people eat 7 days a weekDec 24 14:57
schestowitz-pi2so you see where it is going...Dec 24 14:57
techrights-sec2yepDec 24 15:02
techrights-sec2basic mathDec 24 15:02
schestowitz-pi27.5x4=30 x 30 =~ 900Dec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2that's for foodDec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2need to maintain car to haul it over, unless you are 95kg and strong and willingDec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2car is about 500 a monthDec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2so there goes your basic salary (net)Dec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2not talking about mortgage or student loan yetDec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2or heat, rianne reads in billbc familyies pay about 300 in winterDec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2we pay about 100    Dec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2the assumption both parents can work _if willing_ is 1990s utopiaDec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2today the bell went off to indicate potential shoplistingDec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2it has become so common that they now choose which is _high-priority Dec 24 15:05
schestowitz-pi2and which, "let it go..."Dec 24 15:05
techrights-sec2https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/Dec 24 15:16
techrights-sec2grauniad: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/20/uuk-workers-wage-stagnation-resolution-foundation-thinktankDec 24 15:16
techrights-sec2https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/press-releases/15-years-of-economic-stagnation-has-left-workers-across-britain-with-an-11000-a-year-lost-wages-gap/Dec 24 15:16
techrights-sec2https://www.economicsobservatory.com/why-has-it-taken-so-long-for-stagnant-pay-to-become-central-to-uk-politicsDec 24 15:16
schestowitz-pi2/me doing background checks on high-profile but not technical red hat managersDec 24 15:18
schestowitz-pi2raising kids can still be cheap if they are tunnel diggers on wheat-based dietDec 24 15:18
schestowitz-pi2for the rest of society this is a crisis that worsens each yearDec 24 15:18
schestowitz-pi2sirius paid me more in 2011 than in 2022 per hourDec 24 15:18
schestowitz-pi2i adjusted it upwards with my foot pedalsDec 24 15:18
schestowitz-pi2but WFH is not universalDec 24 15:18
schestowitz-pi2opening 4 tabs - gasp - all in one browser (GASP!) stresses the pi 400 a bitDec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2i thought these were articlesDec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2not application ;-)Dec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2fig 5 in https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/Dec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2shows what i alluded too (aforementioned blurb)Dec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2this is what we grew into at schoolDec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2work and study hard, life will be okDec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2then 2000, 2008 and covidkraine happenedDec 24 15:23
techrights-sec2i adjusted https://dev.to/williamnogueira/the-problem-of-bloat-in-web-development-do-we-really-need-front-end-frameworks-14ma     Dec 24 15:23
techrights-sec2checkingDec 24 15:23
schestowitz-pi2"The gap between typical UK household incomes and those of comparator countries has also widened. In the period running up to the financial crisis, Dec 24 15:25
schestowitz-pi2German households were better off than British households by £500 per year, but that has since increased to £4,000. The toxic combination of low grDec 24 15:25
schestowitz-pi2growth and high inequality mean that poorer households in Britain are most exposed to this stagnation  while typical households in the UK are 9 per cDec 24 15:25
schestowitz-pi2cent poorer than their equivalents in France, low-income households are now 22 per cent poorer.Dec 24 15:25
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 24 15:25
schestowitz-pi2Germany is getting worse fast as wellDec 24 15:25
techrights-sec2It is based on: Dec 24 15:27
techrights-sec2https://www.epi.org/publication/class-of-2014/Dec 24 15:27
techrights-sec2not getting paid for their work any moreDec 24 15:27
schestowitz-pi2in short people are ripped offDec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2not getting what an hour's worth is.. in actual valueDec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2set aside purchasing powerDec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2for me, i can save in one hours after planning what i used to earn in a day's workDec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2i can wait until {"the after"Dec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2the rebalancingDec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2but i cannot see that happen any time soonDec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2and thus keep hopes lowDec 24 15:30
schestowitz-pi2having tapioca with bubbletea atmDec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2lots of vegs todayDec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2yle posted 2 articles this year predicting gloom for fi economy Dec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2you know what they say about "talking it down"Dec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2and self-fulfilling prophecyDec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2by conservative spendings etc.Dec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2so when a national broadcaster talks like this you know it is _really_ badDec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2correction: 2articles this WEEK, not year Dec 24 15:31
techrights-sec2most of their articles on the topic are bullshit about 'expectations'Dec 24 15:31
techrights-sec2and 'opinions' and 'attitudes' rather than actual numbers.Dec 24 15:31
schestowitz-pi2https://yle.fi/a/74-20066500Dec 24 15:33
schestowitz-pi2from http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Links_24_12_2023_Kangaroo_Court_Update_and_a_Merry_Christmas.shtmlDec 24 15:33
schestowitz-pi2"There were 26,000 more people unemployed last month compared to November of 2022, with Finland's unemployment rate among 15-74-year-olds now standing Dec 24 15:33
schestowitz-pi2at 7.6 percent.Dec 24 15:33
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 24 15:33
schestowitz-pi2good to know 92.4% of people between 15-74 years olds are working :-)Dec 24 15:33
schestowitz-pi2and that 74 year olds still need to work at allDec 24 15:33
techrights-sec274-year-olds Dec 24 15:34
techrights-sec2I see a lot of elderly in pain and fatigued yet working shit jobs at theDec 24 15:34
techrights-sec2supermarket and similar places.  Dec 24 15:34
schestowitz-pi2this creates further issuesDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2as they compete with teens for these jobsDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2not good for teens, either Dec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2this is society tying to match up nickels from the sofa cushionsDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2to keep up "stable" economyDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2at what cost?Dec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2good thing we saw it coming decades aheadDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2and did not spend like "friends" in FBDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2so our xmas is a calm oneDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2not payday loan oneDec 24 15:36
schestowitz-pi2"This was driven to a significant extent by external factors such as issues with global supply chains after the Covid-19 pandemic, the Russian invasion Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2of Ukraine and rocketing energy prices. But these blows struck a longstanding sore point among the countrys working population, namely stagnant pay.Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2" During his time in office, from 1997 to 2007, pay trouble was not an issue with which he was particularly associated, but then he didnt need to be: aDec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2across that period, wages consistently rose above inflation."Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2"One reason that the reliance on pay cuts was possible was that the pound fell by around 27%, which made imports more expensive and pushed up prices. Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2This meant that employers were able to adjust to lower output by allowing real wages to fall rather than cutting jobs (Count the Pennies, Resolution FDec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2Foundation, 2018).Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2At one point, it emerged that half of the UKs NHS trusts were providing food banks for their staff (Observer, 2023). In an echo of the job furlough sDec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2scheme, the government felt compelled to introduce an energy price guarantee to limit the impact of soaring energy bills on households, even as inDec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2interest rates drove up the cost of mortgages and rents.Dec 24 15:41
schestowitz-pi2"Dec 24 15:41
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schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> drug deaths rise yet again in England and Wales https://theconversation.com/generation-x-hardest-hit-as-drug-deaths-rise-yet-again-in-england-and-wales-220064 when the economy sucks people will seek other way to become happy, even if not healthy and sedatedDec 24 15:58
schestowitz-pi2saw homeless people today, side of the building of Town HallDec 24 15:59
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Security_Leftovers.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Security_Leftovers.2.gmi ∎Dec 24 17:13
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Red Hat, SparkFun, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Red_Hat_SparkFun_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Red_Hat_SparkFun_and_More.gmi ∎Dec 24 17:16
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 24/12/2023: Hopes Regarding Climate and China's 'Soft' Power ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Links_24_12_2023_Hopes_Regarding_Climate_and_China_s_Soft_Power.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/24/Links_24_12_2023_Hopes_Regarding_Climate_and_China_s_Soft_Power.gmi ∎Dec 24 17:19
schestowitz-pi2//gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiDec 24 17:26
schestowitz-pi2taz.de: 9994 URLsDec 24 17:26
schestowitz-pi2* gemini.techrights.org: 9991 URLsDec 24 17:26
schestowitz-pi2* gemini.tuxmachines.org: 9989 URLsDec 24 17:26
schestowitz-pi2* gemini.conman.org: 9988 URLsDec 24 17:26
schestowitz-pi2* midnight.pub: 9985 URLsDec 24 17:26
schestowitz-pi2silver and bronze ;-)Dec 24 17:26
techrights-sec2out for some hours staring in about 30 minDec 24 17:26
techrights-sec2Nice.  Congrats.Dec 24 17:26
techrights-sec2Daily backup complete.  I'll have to set up incremental backups somehowDec 24 17:37
techrights-sec2Right now it is just plain rsync. Dec 24 17:37
schestowitz-pi2freezer and fridge: from almost empty to fullDec 24 17:38
schestowitz-pi2it's the most bargainful time of the yearDec 24 17:38
techrights-sec2Time to stock up!Dec 24 17:41
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techrights-sec2Back in some hours.  Merry Christmas to you and Rianne!Dec 24 17:43
schestowitz-pi2some items are 6 pounds rrpDec 24 17:45
schestowitz-pi2]Dec 24 17:45
schestowitz-pi2to you tooDec 24 17:45
schestowitz-pi2she is opening the fridge nowDec 24 17:45
schestowitz-pi2a surpriseDec 24 17:45
schestowitz-pi2i tricked her into thinking i just got some potatoes and plumsDec 24 17:45
schestowitz-pi2so she says, "now i am excited"Dec 24 17:45
schestowitz-pi2because my poker face failedDec 24 17:45
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  10 Fun Linux Commands to Try When You’re Feeling Bored ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/10_Fun_Linux_Commands_to_Try_When_You_re_Feeling_Bored.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/10_Fun_Linux_Commands_to_Try_When_You_re_Feeling_Bored.gmi ∎Dec 24 18:03
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  New Videos: Zorin OS 17, Wayland, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/New_Videos_Zorin_OS_17_Wayland_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/New_Videos_Zorin_OS_17_Wayland_and_More.gmi ∎Dec 24 18:05
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/24/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Dec 24 18:51
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