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schestowitz-pi2fostering this attitude means more people become a burden on an May 25 01:52
schestowitz-pi2otherwise productive system, mistaking reproductionMay 25 01:52
schestowitz-pi2for productivityMay 25 01:52
schestowitz-pi2parting for the night in a bitMay 25 01:52
techrights[sec]_ok gnMay 25 01:52
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Meet Inkscape's New About Screen Artist ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/website-isometric-madness.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/website-isometric-madness.gmi ∎May 25 03:09
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Stable kernels: Linux 6.3.4, Linux 6.1.30, and Linux 5.15.113 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_3_4_Linux_6_1_30_and_Linux_5_15_113.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_3_4_Linux_6_1_30_and_Linux_5_15_113.gmi ∎May 25 03:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Bodhi Linux 7.0 Beta is Now Available for Testing (UPDATED) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/21/Bodhi_Linux_7_0_Beta_is_Now_Available_for_Testing.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/21/Bodhi_Linux_7_0_Beta_is_Now_Available_for_Testing.gmi ∎May 25 04:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): iW-RainboW-G55M is an OSM-LF compliant module based on TI AM62A Cortex-A53 processor ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/iW_RainboW_G55M_is_an_OSM_LF_compliant_module_based_on_TI_AM62A.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/iW_RainboW_G55M_is_an_OSM_LF_compliant_module_based_on_TI_AM62A.gmi ∎May 25 04:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Top 20 essential Linux applications you should install ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Top_20_essential_Linux_applications_you_should_install.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Top_20_essential_Linux_applications_you_should_install.gmi ∎May 25 04:30
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Android_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎May 25 04:30
schestowitz-pi2leaving 8am to train stationMay 25 04:36
schestowitz-pi2back within an hour, then 5 weeks of more focusMay 25 04:36
schestowitz-pi2we can progress a bit on elongation the sites' lifetimeMay 25 04:36
schestowitz-pi2catching up atm, daily links shortly, 6amMay 25 04:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Python Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Python_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Python_Leftovers.gmi ∎May 25 04:48
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎May 25 04:54
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Proprietary Software Falling Under its Own Weight (Microsoft) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Proprietary_Software_Falling_Under_its_Own_Weight_Microsoft.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Proprietary_Software_Falling_Under_its_Own_Weight_Microsoft.gmi ∎May 25 04:57
schestowitz-pi2HEY HI in headline -> almost instant binningMay 25 05:24
schestowitz-pi2fasion/fad du jourMay 25 05:24
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techrights-newsGemini Links 25/05/2023: On Profit and Desire for Gemini | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/25/desire-for-gemini/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/25/desire-for-gemini/May 25 06:01
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎May 25 06:02
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techrights-newsLinks 25/05/2023: Istio 1.16.5 and Curl 8.1.1 | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/25/curl-8-1-1/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/25/curl-8-1-1/May 25 06:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Microsoft Layoffs Still Happening All the Time (It Never Ended) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Microsoft_Layoffs_Still_Happening_All_the_Time_It_Never_Ended.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Microsoft_Layoffs_Still_Happening_All_the_Time_It_Never_Ended.gmi ∎May 25 06:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): GNU/Linux and KDE: Linux Distro Reviews of Kubuntu and KDE Neon ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/GNU_Linux_and_KDE_Linux_Distro_Reviews_of_Kubuntu_and_KDE_Neon.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/GNU_Linux_and_KDE_Linux_Distro_Reviews_of_Kubuntu_and_KDE_Neon.gmi ∎May 25 06:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Sick of Microsoft? #HowTo Make the Switch From Windows to GNU/Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Sick_of_Microsoft_How_to_Make_the_Switch_From_Windows_to_GNU_Li.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Sick_of_Microsoft_How_to_Make_the_Switch_From_Windows_to_GNU_Li.gmi ∎May 25 06:45
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Microsofters on Ubuntu ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Microsofters_on_Ubuntu.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Microsofters_on_Ubuntu.gmi ∎May 25 06:48
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Snagboot is an open-source cross-vendor recovery tool for embedded targets ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Snagboot_is_an_open_source_cross_vendor_recovery_tool_for_embed.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Snagboot_is_an_open_source_cross_vendor_recovery_tool_for_embed.gmi ∎May 25 07:00
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Devices: Centerm, RTOS, and Arduino ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Devices_Centerm_RTOS_and_Arduino.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Devices_Centerm_RTOS_and_Arduino.gmi ∎May 25 07:00
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Software: Colour Pickers, Microsoft Spyware, Curl and Istio Releases ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Software_Colour_Pickers_Microsoft_Spyware_Curl_and_Istio_Releas.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Software_Colour_Pickers_Microsoft_Spyware_Curl_and_Istio_Releas.gmi ∎May 25 07:00
techrights[sec]_just to test something for later today, can you connect to May 25 07:09
techrights[sec]_Excellent.  May 25 07:09
techrights[sec]_then use the SOCKS5 proxy at port 4567 (or whatever) to connect toMay 25 07:10
techrights[sec]_I'm soon going to look at the /forum migration but not sure of its structure May 25 07:10
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat, Microsoft, and Destination Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Red_Hat_Microsoft_and_Destination_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Red_Hat_Microsoft_and_Destination_Linux.gmi ∎May 25 07:10
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 5 Reasons to Use Flatpak to Install Software on Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/5_Reasons_to_Use_Flatpak_to_Install_Software_on_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/5_Reasons_to_Use_Flatpak_to_Install_Software_on_Linux.gmi ∎May 25 07:10
techrights[sec]_$ grep -h -o -E '/old/forum/[0-9]*' /var/www/www.tuxmachines.org/htdocs/old/taxonomy/term/May 25 07:14
techrights[sec]_* | sort -uMay 25 07:14
techrights[sec]_Those are the only ones linked from the taxonomy but there are actually many  May 25 07:15
techrights[sec]_more, the question is actually how many?May 25 07:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Security_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎May 25 07:23
schestowitz-pi2about to leave, running from place to place.......May 25 07:28
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): New Kernel Articles in LWN ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/New_Kernel_Articles_in_LWN.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/New_Kernel_Articles_in_LWN.gmi ∎May 25 07:32
techrights[sec]_good luckMay 25 07:54
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Record-breaking 50,000 people immigrated to Finland in 2022 ☞ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23633-record-breaking-50-000-people-immigrated-to-finland-in-2022.htmlMay 25 07:54
schestowitz-pi2leaving in 5 minsMay 25 07:55
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schestowitz-pi2back homeMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2catching upMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2massive truck next to meMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2gas pipe mainteannceMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2a bit daunting biamMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2this trunk and nozzle thing is scaryMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2it's massiveMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2and it deals with massive gas piles right next to meMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2just plugged in rianne's secod machineMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi28 keyboardMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi26 miceMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi210 screensMay 25 09:19
techrights[sec]_good luckMay 25 09:19
techrights[sec]_"immigrated" or "settled" or "colonized" ?May 25 09:19
techrights[sec]_https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/05/23/paul-simon-loses-nearly-all-hearing-in-left-eaMay 25 09:19
techrights[sec]_r/May 25 09:19
techrights[sec]_is happening to me; happened already to one cousin, who as an MD-PhD cannotMay 25 09:19
techrights[sec]_publicly blame the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines but privately does soMay 25 09:19
schestowitz-pi2i am unimpressed by these vaccines -- that's an understatementMay 25 09:20
schestowitz-pi2based on what I saw and readMay 25 09:20
schestowitz-pi2biab, i feel uncomfortable about this truck 8 meters from my deskMay 25 09:20
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/05/25/irc-log-240523/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/05/25/irc-log-240523/May 25 09:29
schestowitz-pi2ok, truck has passed further down the roadMay 25 09:31
schestowitz-pi2i will look into forum in a bitMay 25 09:31
schestowitz-pi2rianne might come to irc from the airportMay 25 09:31
schestowitz-pi2if they don't do extensive port-blockingMay 25 09:31
schestowitz-pi2it's still possible to purchase train tickets and travel anonymouslyMay 25 09:31
schestowitz-pi2and the queue was short even at 8:30, actual humans availableMay 25 09:31
techrights[sec]_It's good that there are still humans available at the train station.  TheMay 25 09:39
techrights[sec]_That service was eliminated here years ago and microsoftified so thatMay 25 09:39
techrights[sec]_it is very expensive (for the rail service too) and very unreliableMay 25 09:39
techrights[sec]_They even went as far as to roll out a Flash-based UI in place of a web siteMay 25 09:39
techrights[sec]_So it's not possible to get tickets easily and anonymous travel is impossibleMay 25 09:39
techrights[sec]_When we travel (mostly xxxx) we always print out the ticket with its QR codeMay 25 09:39
schestowitz-pi2codes for ZuckersMay 25 09:42
techrights[sec]_At least one does not need a Google/M$/Facebook/Bytedance acccount to buy a  May 25 09:43
techrights[sec]_ticket yet.  May 25 09:43
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schestowitz-pi2using an iOS devices typically means apple/i/whatever accountMay 25 09:54
schestowitz-pi2for android devices it's gmail.comMay 25 09:54
schestowitz-pi2at least for the pixel onesMay 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2i've not explored android since a decade agoMay 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2i have a seemingly dumb questionMay 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2are those sorts of issues (travel, among others) worth covering in TR?May 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Vantaa approves tram project  https://yle.fi/a/74-20033019May 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2our tram, which I used last night to grab lots of soy drinksMay 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2allowed you to pay with cash universllyMay 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2all stationsMay 25 09:55
techrights[sec]_I'm not sure how to emulate an Android devive but we need to for TM develMay 25 09:55
techrights[sec]_I'm not sure.  Maybe the tracking and privacy invasion but only if there is May 25 09:55
techrights[sec]_a tie-in to software freedomMay 25 09:55
techrights[sec]_BTW have you heard from Andy Farnell lately?  He had made a mailing list andMay 25 09:55
techrights[sec]_then went quietMay 25 09:55
schestowitz-pi2probably fighting with his workplace/s (Outlook)May 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2and figuring out what he wants to do with his lifeMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2he is child-saddledMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2so cannot retirer fastMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2the system prefers all people to be in such a ststeMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2and by the time they realise this it's already too lateMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2theory: part of the panic about couples who choose not to have kidsMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2is that they _might_ - gasp - exercise more freedom May 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2people who are buy putting out fires all the time cannot do activismMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2and tell their bosses to go f* themselvesMay 25 10:00
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> Study: Problematic social media use threatens children's sleep  https:/May 25 10:01
schestowitz-pi2/yle.fi/a/74-20033035May 25 10:01
schestowitz-pi2"daddy daddy i can't sleep, so neither should u!"May 25 10:01
techrights[sec]_They can't sleep so they flick at the screen all night instead, a self- May 25 10:02
techrights[sec]_reinforcing problem. May 25 10:02
schestowitz-pi2potential topics:May 25 10:04
schestowitz-pi2travel without ID or location trickingMay 25 10:04
schestowitz-pi2impact of social control media by peer, within families (dinner table, sleep)May 25 10:04
schestowitz-pi2those are topics that we did not or barely coveredMay 25 10:04
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techrights[sec]_There was a large number of articles the last few days covering the healthMay 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_damage of social control media.May 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_both but mostly because of the surgeon general's statements about the preliminary reports.May 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_  The take away is that preliminary indications of the harm of May 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_social control media are likely only the tip of the iceberg. May 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_The report nor the surgeon general go into the weaponized aspects of bytedanceMay 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_and other social control media companies.  May 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_Free (as in Freedom) platforms would not drive "engagement" nor aim for otherMay 25 10:08
techrights[sec]_aspects of addiction and harm.May 25 10:08
schestowitz-pi2because of surgeon generalMay 25 10:09
schestowitz-pi2or tyhe paper/s he citedMay 25 10:09
schestowitz-pi2adding to notes, future video perhaps, plus textMay 25 10:09
schestowitz-pi2will need to think of SF/SF maspect maybe weekendMay 25 10:09
schestowitz-pi2got links now May 25 10:09
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schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> ICBM is evil and a self-serving saboteur. ☞ https://linuxiac.com/fedora-plans-to-drop-x11-support-in-plasma-6/ Also see http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/May 25 10:28
schestowitz-pi2ubuntu is a fedora copy and many distros are ubuntu copiesMay 25 10:28
schestowitz-pi2for the desktop (gnome) at leastMay 25 10:28
techrights[sec]_back in an hour or soMay 25 10:49
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schestowitz-pi2wth?May 25 12:05
schestowitz-pi2so now they want indoors in the kitchenMay 25 12:05
schestowitz-pi2not just shouting but also coughing May 25 12:05
schestowitz-pi2maybe covid-19May 25 12:05
schestowitz-pi2i didn't ask for any pipe changesMay 25 12:05
schestowitz-pi2and they might try to charge me for itMay 25 12:05
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Games: Chromebooks, Halls of Torment, and New Steam Games with Native GNU/Linux Clients ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Games_Chromebooks_Halls_of_Torment_and_New_Steam_Games_with_Nat.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/Games_Chromebooks_Halls_of_Torment_and_New_Steam_Games_with_Nat.gmi ∎May 25 12:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/25/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎May 25 12:19
schestowitz-pi2my guess is that the pipes are not afeMay 25 12:21
schestowitz-pi2but they do not want to tell us thatMay 25 12:21
schestowitz-pi2as that might lead to panicMay 25 12:21
schestowitz-pi2a month ago i told rianne i could smell gas May 25 12:21
schestowitz-pi2but was not sure if from the outside or our own kitchenMay 25 12:22
techrights[sec]_backMay 25 12:22
techrights[sec]_Unscheduled maint?May 25 12:22
techrights[sec]_The old pipes tend to leak a lot.May 25 12:22
schestowitz-pi2those pipes might be old and considered riskyMay 25 12:22
schestowitz-pi2like homes blowing upMay 25 12:22
schestowitz-pi2they use greenwashing to push plastic pipesMay 25 12:22
schestowitz-pi21. they already double change us, via the governmenrt "help"May 25 12:23
schestowitz-pi2and ludicrous billsMay 25 12:23
schestowitz-pi22. i sealed off the kitchen, wear two masks, but in the coming days not comfortable to goMay 25 12:23
schestowitz-pi2in thereMay 25 12:23
schestowitz-pi23. at least one worker coughs a lotMay 25 12:23
schestowitz-pi24. that rianne is NOT here is a big plusMay 25 12:25
schestowitz-pi2she tends to hate such visits and puts chrlorine all over the placeMay 25 12:25
techrights[sec]_The coughing "worker" is probably worth registering an official complaintMay 25 12:29
schestowitz-pi2thankfully who says it doesn't matter anywayMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2so the virus will lower its weapon and we can lower the gaurdsMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2i'm sure they don't test their workers for covidMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2and even if they did, it would not have a policy for stay-at-homeMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2rianne might come to irc from the airport, maybe notMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2takeoff is very soonMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2the work is being done by a private companyMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2i could ask if they test workers and, under what scenariosMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2they protect colleagues and clientsMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2he has been mostly the one tugging from outside, but they all share breathesMay 25 12:32
schestowitz-pi2f'ing BSMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2he said he'd take his shoes offMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2left filth all over the floorMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2several of them were indoorMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2and someone comes in 4 hours to turn it back onMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2then I have a cleaning jobMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2rianne cleaned the place this morningMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2if one gets covid-19 through them, and that can be proven, the damage is notMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2just loss of timeMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2it wasn't even optional but obligatory to do thisMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2gonna phone them and rcord the callMay 25 12:39
schestowitz-pi2on phone atmMay 25 12:45
techrights[sec]_the main point is that the dude is coughing his lungs out in your kitchen\May 25 12:54
techrights[sec]_the testing or lack there of is not relevantMay 25 12:54
techrights[sec]_Can you bill for the cleanup?May 25 12:54
schestowitz-pi2on phone atmMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2escalated to supervisorMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2recording itMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2he should phone back 2pmMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2the supervisor call might be more interestingMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2the first an addendum at bestMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2nothing to do with TRMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2though itMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2's good to have in case you need to refute, based on what the other workerMay 25 12:58
schestowitz-pi2saidMay 25 12:58
techrights[sec]_Speaking of nothing to do with TR, my time-lapse camera stopped some timeMay 25 12:59
techrights[sec]_shortly before midnight yesterday and I had to restart the system manuallyMay 25 12:59
techrights[sec]_after lunch when I first noticed it.  May 25 12:59
techrights[sec]_I've added a cron job to reboot once per day during the small hoursMay 25 12:59
schestowitz-pi2i have many lists of tasksMay 25 13:00
schestowitz-pi2for various thingsMay 25 13:00
schestowitz-pi2they make it hard to go on holiday tbhMay 25 13:00
schestowitz-pi2or sleep awayMay 25 13:00
techrights[sec]_Also off-topic, do you have any tips on drilling polycarbonate plastic?May 25 13:00
schestowitz-pi2i know almost nthing about thatMay 25 13:00
schestowitz-pi2ftr, i wanted to phone this company the first time they sent a letterMay 25 13:02
schestowitz-pi2and i suspectd they were a scam letter, as i said here at the timeMay 25 13:02
schestowitz-pi2the first call was, to me, like rehearsel on soft targetMay 25 13:02
schestowitz-pi2she was a bit afraid, esp. when liability was brought upMay 25 13:02
techrights[sec]_Nothing useful i nthe logs here dfor the camera's failureMay 25 13:02
schestowitz-pi2will be ota soon if promised keptMay 25 13:19
schestowitz-pi2will 'cross examine' tooMay 25 13:19
schestowitz-pi2asking questions i asked before, different personMay 25 13:20
schestowitz-pi2this is more health rights/property rights thingMay 25 13:20
schestowitz-pi2---May 25 13:40
schestowitz-pi2lol, rianne's flight 13:40May 25 13:40
schestowitz-pi240 mins after takeoff scheduledMay 25 13:40
schestowitz-pi2"Final Call - Gate 204"May 25 13:40
schestowitz-pi2so they will be at least an hour lateMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2the connection is 4 hours (layover)May 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2flights add up to stress like thisMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi224 hours before leaving she needed to do covid-19 testMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2same as the one we have hereMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2but must be done by official company (graft)May 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2by travelling for several hoursMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2hope it'll go as expectedMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2pat a fortuneMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2then hours later get a result by emailMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2which, if you don't have a printer, you lack time to go printMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2she came back too laterMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2shop shut 17:30May 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2and today she left 8:00amMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2so she had this thing on usb and then laptopMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2emailsMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2welcome to another fine joyMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2of flighting in "modern time"May 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2if she tested positive away, that might be expensive quarantine atMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2her own expense, i.e. more graftMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2on the way to the train the wheel of the luggage got fuckedMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2the rubber on the outsideMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2isolating from people in the train sttaion was hard tooMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2i walked to like 5 stores, asking if they could print a pdfMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2none couldMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2so this is a burden on me, tooMay 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2our printer stopped working months ago (HP)May 25 13:41
schestowitz-pi2lol. 5 hours in the airport after a 15-minute train ride that cost 6.20 one-way!May 25 13:44
techrights[sec]_Time to investigate repairing or replacing the printer.  :/May 25 13:47
techrights[sec]_Here the library used to be able to print for a fee, same for copy shops.May 25 13:47
techrights[sec]_Both are expensive though.  May 25 13:47
schestowitz-pi2one sho told me to try the libraryMay 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2and another a shop that already closedMay 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2i really hope to never fly, but it's too unrealistic a promiseMay 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2esp. with things like funeralsMay 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2it's still "final call"May 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2lolMay 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2very long final call!!May 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2"FINAL FINAL FINAL call" -Kuwaiti accentMay 25 13:49
techrights[sec]_My parents are old and I will probably have to attend their funerals some dayMay 25 13:49
techrights[sec]_They could last quite while longer though, they're at the age where it is notMay 25 13:49
techrights[sec]_a sure thing either way.  May 25 13:49
schestowitz-pi2suffice to say, today's productivity was stalledMay 25 14:58
schestowitz-pi2external factorsMay 25 14:58
schestowitz-pi2but kids are like this every day, every hourMay 25 14:58
schestowitz-pi2departed, over an hour lateMay 25 14:58
schestowitz-pi2recorded the call, will only publish the issue in personal siteMay 25 14:58
schestowitz-pi2biabMay 25 14:58
schestowitz-pi2am i correct that plastic for gas pipes is worse than metal?May 25 14:58
techrights[sec]_no idea about which pipes are better for gas.May 25 14:58
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schestowitz-pi2not gonna enter this dirty kitchen for food till the second wave of MFersMay 25 15:01
schestowitz-pi2comes to enable the "new" pipesMay 25 15:01
schestowitz-pi2as I want to chrlorinate the darn placeMay 25 15:01
techrights[sec]_Good idea.May 25 15:04
schestowitz-pi2the famous Chlorine DietyMay 25 15:06
schestowitz-pi2no food till chlorineMay 25 15:06
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techrights[sec]_in tm-old/forum/ what is the highest number?May 25 15:29
techrights[sec]_it is at least 250 but it would be very helpful to know what the max id is May 25 15:29
techrights[sec]_so that time and resources are not wasted trying to find stuff that does notMay 25 15:29
techrights[sec]_exist or, worse, stuff which does exist is not archived because the id numberMay 25 15:29
techrights[sec]_is not contiguous with the other numbers.May 25 15:29
techrights[sec]_Not node but /forumMay 25 15:29
schestowitz-pi2http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/7345May 25 15:29
schestowitz-pi2this one if under Forum as wellMay 25 15:29
schestowitz-pi2http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/14775 alsoMay 25 15:29
schestowitz-pi2the back end might show a complete listMay 25 15:29
schestowitz-pi2but i never checked that sectionMay 25 15:29
schestowitz-pi2because by 2013 it was not usedMay 25 15:29
schestowitz-pi2i could, for principle's sake, obstruct them turning on the gas by coming May 25 15:32
schestowitz-pi2back in, making it more expensive for them to send someone epciallyMay 25 15:32
schestowitz-pi2once they rectify what their policy actually isMay 25 15:32
schestowitz-pi2video processing, not for TRMay 25 15:32
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schestowitz-pi2thinking ahead one step, I could also phone the energy supplier and demandMay 25 15:38
schestowitz-pi2they disable gas supply and billing pending disputeMay 25 15:38
schestowitz-pi2that would not prevent neighbours getting gasMay 25 15:38
schestowitz-pi2but it would hurt them enough to revisit their arrogant stance on thisMay 25 15:38
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techrights-newsPreviewMay 25 15:47
schestowitz-pi2there will be a second video:May 25 16:14
schestowitz-pi2What E.ON Next Says About Cadent Gas Limited Replacing Metal With Plastics at Unexpected TMay 25 16:14
schestowitz-pi2imesMay 25 16:14
techrights[sec]_what is the highest number in tm-old/forum/ ?  Would that be 7345 or 14775 orMay 25 16:23
techrights[sec]_something else ?May 25 16:23
schestowitz-pi2there's another knockhead in the house atm May 25 16:23
schestowitz-pi2reactivating itMay 25 16:23
schestowitz-pi2i'll log into tm-old later May 25 16:23
schestowitz-pi2and see from the backend what it saysMay 25 16:23
schestowitz-pi2awful day, very unproductiveMay 25 16:23
schestowitz-pi2nothing as plannedMay 25 16:23
schestowitz-pi2maybe after he leaves i will get rest, then start afresh after some May 25 16:30
schestowitz-pi2quarantine timeMay 25 16:30
schestowitz-pi2i can smell the gas addictives over here, two rooms away, while he is workingMay 25 16:30
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rianneKuwait AirportMay 25 21:26
rianneManchester Airport Wifi is not reliableMay 25 21:27
rianneSaving battery for the rest of the journeyMay 25 21:27
rianneSpeak you in Manila.May 25 22:05
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