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| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160696 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:26 |
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| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160697 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:27 |
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| techrights-news | #WordPress 5.9 Josephine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160698 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:37 |
| techrights-news | #LatteDock v0.10.8 | Bug Fix Release • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160699 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:37 |
| techrights-news | Free technology in housing and construction • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160700 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:37 |
| techrights-news | #Purism 2022 Roadmap • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160701 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:41 |
| techrights-news | Open-Source Intel & Radeon GPU Drivers Ready With Day-One Support For Vulkan 1.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160677#comment-32613 | Jan 26 01:50 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160702 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:50 |
| techrights-news | Nano-ITX carrier extends RPi CM4 with eight USB ports, M.2, and mini-PCIe • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160703 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 01:58 |
| techrights-news | Events: LibrePlanet 2022 and Southern California Linux Expo • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160704 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:01 |
| techrights-news | Stopped work on #EasyArch • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160705 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:06 |
| techrights-news | NZ’s Catalyst IT delivers open-source system for uni library • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160706 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:22 |
| techrights-news | The Software Upgrade Threadmill and Life’s crazy chain of dependencies • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160707 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:22 |
| techrights-news | #Mozilla / #Firefox and #Chrome • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160708 #WWW #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:28 |
| techrights-news | #Phosh 0.15.0 Wayland Shell for GNOME on Mobile Devices Adds Full VPN Support, Swipeable Notification Frames • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160695 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:30 |
| techrights-news | Linux #Graphics : Amphion, Wayland and Weston, Mesa • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160709 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:31 |
| techrights-news | Links 26/1/2022: No ARM for #Nvidia , End of EasyArch, and WordPress 5.9 is Out • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/01/25/wordpress-5-9-is-out/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/25/wordpress-5-9-is-out/ | Jan 26 02:41 |
| techrights-news | #Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160710 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:41 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160711 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 02:42 |
| techrights-news | #RaspberryPi Software Suggestions • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160712 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 03:28 |
| techrights-news | Meet GENODE, a framework to create Operating Systems • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160713 #TuxMachines | Jan 26 04:09 |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft boosters are calling systemd "Linux" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160696#comment-32616 #systemd #poettering | Jan 26 04:13 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure I'm articulate on the topic, I'm certainly barely knowledgable. | Jan 26 04:41 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: I have used OpenBSD in teaching before, however. | Jan 26 04:41 |
| Techrights-sec | OpenBSD is well-suited for teaching doe to it's careful design, very clean | Jan 26 04:41 |
| Techrights-sec | code base, and exquisite documentation. | Jan 26 04:41 |
| Techrights-sec | At a certain level the things learned can then be carried over to other systems | Jan 26 04:44 |
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| techrights-news | Linux #Kernel 5.17 RC1 Unveils New Features and Hardware Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160714 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 09:55 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jan 26 10:08 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Jan 26 10:08 |
| Techrights-sec | It went out at just after 05:00, so yeah it was out and my )(*&^%$%^&* script | Jan 26 10:08 |
| Techrights-sec | failed to squawk. | Jan 26 10:08 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: or I failed to hear it, but I should have seen the LEDs | Jan 26 10:08 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160715 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 11:30 |
| techrights-news | #Games: Supaplex, Blackwell Bundle, Dying Light • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160716 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 11:47 |
| techrights-news | An Official #Yaru Theme for Cinnamon? Oh Yes — Here’s What It Looks Like • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160717 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 12:51 |
| techrights-news | Best #FreeSW Alternatives to SAS JMP • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160718 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 12:51 |
| techrights-news | #freesw Video Converters for Linux [GUI and CLI] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160719 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 12:52 |
| techrights-news | How are #freesw and #clowncomputing compatible? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160720 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 12:52 |
| techrights-news | #Gamebuntu 1.0 Launches with a Complete Redesign to Let You Install Only What You Need • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160721 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 12:52 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160722 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 12:53 |
| techrights-news | #Intel #Celeron G6900 Benchmarks - Performance Of Intel’s $40~60 Alder Lake Processor Review • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160723 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 12:53 |
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| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160724 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 13:20 |
| techrights-news | Learn about Virtual memory statistics using #vmstat • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160725 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 13:20 |
| techrights-news | #Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160726 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 13:21 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160727 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 13:21 |
| techrights-news | Links 26/1/2022: #Gamebuntu 1.0, PiGear Nano, and Much More • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/gamebuntu-1-0/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/26/gamebuntu-1-0/ | Jan 26 13:27 |
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| Wade | might anyone in here be familiar with connecting to gnome's screen sharing from windows? | Jan 26 15:46 |
| schestowitz | hi wade | Jan 26 15:48 |
| Wade | good morning | Jan 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | what protocol? | Jan 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | rdp? vnc? | Jan 26 15:48 |
| Wade | idk, was trying to make regular vnc work with tight and tigervnc | Jan 26 15:48 |
| Wade | they all failed | Jan 26 15:49 |
| Wade | then someone in #debian on libera said gnome has it's own built in vnc | Jan 26 15:49 |
| techrights-news | At Long Last: 2,000 Known Gemini Capsules! • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/2000-known-gemini-capsules/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ #Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/26/2000-known-gemini-capsules/ | Jan 26 15:49 |
| Wade | so i tried to connect to that with various apps on windows and it failed regardless of what port i chose or using one or two : colons | Jan 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz | maybe change to another protocol | Jan 26 15:50 |
| Wade | i would not mind doing rdp, really any not tortured way to get screen sharing on the local network would be fine | Jan 26 15:50 |
| Wade | debian 11.2 with gnome is what i'm after | Jan 26 15:50 |
| Wade | debian installer is currently overwriting the boot ssd with zeros to cover up my previous bungling | Jan 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz | i see... | Jan 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz | i installed debian 11 from microsd card last week | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | tbh | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | look into x forwarding from windows | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | ssh -X or similar | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | or, | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | install a VM on Windows | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | than use that for ssh -X | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | might be faster and safer | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | vnc is shit | Jan 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | rdp is a security joke | Jan 26 15:52 |
| techrights-news | 12-Year-Old PolicyKit Local Privilege Escalation Flaw Now Patched in Major Linux Distros • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160728 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 15:53 |
| techrights-news | The #corporatemedia , looking to appease its major sponsors (such as Web/advertising giants), won’t tell you that #GeminiProtocol is rising very rapidly; its userbase and the tools available for users are rapidly improving while more and more groups, institutions and individuals set up their own capsule (equivalent of a Web site) http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/2000-known-gemini-capsules/ | Jan 26 15:55 |
| Wade | all i need it to do is for basic shit, schestowitz | Jan 26 16:15 |
| Wade | vnc has worked for my rpi 4 since 2019 is why i was trying to use it | Jan 26 16:15 |
| Wade | needs to be wife friendly | Jan 26 16:15 |
| Wade | so she can do the systemd shutdown and restart of game servers and update them via steamcmd | Jan 26 16:15 |
| Wade | is not like we're trying to go over the wan, it's literally just down the hall a few meters | Jan 26 16:19 |
| psydroid4 | this is one of the things that is really lacking when it comes to remote graphical access | Jan 26 16:19 |
| Wade | it works fine on the rpi :/ | Jan 26 16:20 |
| psydroid4 | vnc should work fine for that, if you are on a fast local network | Jan 26 16:20 |
| Wade | and gnome seems to have built in screen sharing with an address to go to | Jan 26 16:20 |
| Wade | yes is gigabit no wireless | Jan 26 16:20 |
| Wade | all on a big 24 port l2 switch | Jan 26 16:20 |
| Wade | but when i try to paste the gnome's vnc://debian.local into any windows vnc software it fails | Jan 26 16:21 |
| Wade | same failure if i append :5900, ::5900, :5901, ::5901, same deal with 5902 et al until 5910 | Jan 26 16:22 |
| Wade | tutorials seem to all start with no desktop environment installed but since i have gnome installed following the directions doesn't work because it interferes somewhere with gnome already installed | Jan 26 16:23 |
| psydroid4 | I would use something like tightvnc or tigervnc | Jan 26 16:24 |
| Wade | i think maybe they using gnome flashback or something maybe that doesn't have the built in vnc | Jan 26 16:24 |
| Wade | i tried those first before i learned gnome had it's own screen sharing and it didn't work either | Jan 26 16:24 |
| psydroid4 | these built-in vnc servers have always been somewhat unreliable for me | Jan 26 16:24 |
| Wade | all the tuts start from no DE/term only | Jan 26 16:25 |
| Wade | i just want to share the same x window that i already have not another one | Jan 26 16:25 |
| Wade | is this impossible or very difficult to achieve? | Jan 26 16:25 |
| Wade | idk, never had a monitor connected to the pi before | Jan 26 16:26 |
| Wade | infernal microhdmi can rot | Jan 26 16:26 |
| psydroid4 | it's never worked well enough for me to rely on it, so you may have to look into it yourself | Jan 26 16:26 |
| Wade | what do you use to remotely administer your debian? | Jan 26 16:26 |
| Wade | or any other distro | Jan 26 16:27 |
| psydroid4 | I do everything over ssh, but if I needed a GUI I would just start a VNC server as I said before | Jan 26 16:28 |
| Wade | yes, i tried to do the latter 4 times without success | Jan 26 16:28 |
| Wade | the tuts i found all start with no DE installed so the instructions are wrong, when I try to run it it fails within 1s | Jan 26 16:28 |
| psydroid4 | this is in my xstartup | Jan 26 16:29 |
| Wade | yes in that file there be dragons for me | Jan 26 16:29 |
| psydroid4 | in the .vnc | Jan 26 16:29 |
| psydroid4 | directory | Jan 26 16:29 |
| Wade | the tuts say to change the directory, group, and username so i do that | Jan 26 16:30 |
| Wade | but still no joy | Jan 26 16:30 |
| psydroid4 | https://paste.debian.net/1228466/ | Jan 26 16:30 |
| psydroid4 | I've never needed to do that | Jan 26 16:31 |
| Wade | there were two styles of tut | Jan 26 16:31 |
| psydroid4 | but yes, you can start such a VNC server on startup from rc.local or whatever is the startup script these days | Jan 26 16:31 |
| Wade | i tried one like yours and another that was as i described both failed on clean installations with gnome | Jan 26 16:31 |
| psydroid4 | let me see if I can actually connect to it now | Jan 26 16:31 |
| Wade | the kids seem to use systemd services to achieve start on boot these days | Jan 26 16:31 |
| psydroid4 | I haven't tried for a year or two now | Jan 26 16:32 |
| Wade | i have some time to develop a plan of attack because i had the debian installer zero out that ssd so i can start fresh with the new 12TB disks in an array this afternoon | Jan 26 16:33 |
| Wade | i'd like to be able to get vnc or rdp or similar working so that i can setup these game servers and get the transfer of all the plex shit started | Jan 26 16:33 |
| Wade | from my nice ergonomic workstation instead of standing in the server room | Jan 26 16:34 |
| Wade | without putting another hole in the wall to run a 15' hdmi cable to it | Jan 26 16:34 |
| Wade | this seems reasonable to me :/ | Jan 26 16:35 |
| Wade | would have to order more 3 meter usb 3.0 extension cables too | Jan 26 16:36 |
| psydroid4 | I'm installing some components on my debian 11 installs to see if I can get it to work | Jan 26 16:41 |
| psydroid4 | https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Debian_11&p=desktop&f=6 | Jan 26 16:46 |
| psydroid4 | this works for me | Jan 26 16:46 |
| psydroid4 | mate even running on my orange pi with lowly cortex a53 cores seems pretty responsive | Jan 26 16:47 |
| techrights-news | #EndeavourOS : #ArchLinux Made Easy for Everyone • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160729 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 16:50 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160730 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 16:51 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160731 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 16:51 |
| techrights-news | #Games: Windjammers 2, Half-Life 2, Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160732 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 26 17:08 |
| psydroid4 | what I did for starting certain scripts on boot as a user was to use "su - <user> -c <command>" | Jan 26 17:09 |
| psydroid4 | I have no idea how all of this works with systemd | Jan 26 17:09 |
| techrights-news | #antiX Linux 19.5 Release Brings Latest IceWM Desktop Environmen http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160689#comment-32619 | Jan 26 17:10 |
| techrights-news | Attempt to shake down Linux users for #Netfilter code use resolved http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160644#comment-32620 | Jan 26 17:13 |
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| Wade | psydroid, you make your script a systemd service | Jan 26 18:05 |
| Wade | https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?id=000019672 | Jan 26 18:05 |
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| psydroid4 | Wade, I'll have a look at that, thanks | Jan 26 21:27 |
| Wade | you're welcome | Jan 26 21:28 |
| Wade | installed debian with kde plasma instead so hopefully that one doesn't have built in vnc | Jan 26 21:29 |
| Wade | all the systems involved are grossly overpowered for this use | Jan 26 21:29 |
| psydroid4 | I'm surprised with how smooth things run with Mate, both here on my laptop with a potato Intel processor and on my Orange Pi | Jan 26 21:33 |
| psydroid4 | yes, that's been my issue too | Jan 26 21:35 |
| Wade | wrt gnome and vnc? | Jan 26 21:35 |
| psydroid4 | I tried several desktop environments before I found that Mate was one of the lightest | Jan 26 21:35 |
| psydroid4 | no GNOME | Jan 26 21:35 |
| Wade | yes they are all fat now except xfce and mate it seems | Jan 26 21:35 |
| psydroid4 | my Orange Pi isn't nearly as fast as your Raspberry Pi 4, so I am running it headless most of the time | Jan 26 21:38 |
| psydroid4 | it's just my first ARM SBC from almost 5 years ago | Jan 26 21:38 |
| psydroid4 | KDE Plasma crawls on it, so I only tried to run it a few times | Jan 26 21:40 |
| Wade | yeah i not trying to vnc to the rpi 4 it has worked fine since i bought it in 2019 | Jan 26 21:40 |
| Wade | recycled old workstation into my wife's case from 2012 with new hdds and some recycled ssds | Jan 26 21:41 |
| Wade | old beign the 2015 edition of my workstation | Jan 26 21:41 |
| Wade | *being | Jan 26 21:41 |
| Wade | that is what's giving me niggles | Jan 26 21:48 |
| psydroid4 | I keep older hardware in working order for quite a long time | Jan 26 21:51 |
| psydroid4 | it's not like in the old days where it would be obsolete within a few years | Jan 26 21:51 |
| Wade | indeed, things sit on a shelf in anti static bags until i have use for them again | Jan 26 21:52 |
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