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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Switcheroo - Simple & Modern GTK4 Image Converter for Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Switcheroo_Simple_Modern_GTK4_Image_Converter_for_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Switcheroo_Simple_Modern_GTK4_Image_Converter_for_Linux.gmi ∎Nov 29 01:03
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schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> USC Professor Put on Remote Teaching After Saying Hamas Should Be Killed ? https://reason.com/volokh/2023/11/27/usc-professor-put-on-rNov 29 02:19
schestowitz-piemote-teaching-after-saying-hamas-should-be-killed/Nov 29 02:19
schestowitz-pimaybe they are trying to PROTECT him :-)Nov 29 02:19
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  weston 13.0.0 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/weston_13_0_0.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/weston_13_0_0.gmi ∎Nov 29 02:31
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techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/irc-log-281123.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/irc-log-281123.gmi ∎Nov 29 02:45
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> This explains Google becoming very, very vicious and evil https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-is-among-the-top-tech-giants-attracting-employees-from-other-competitor-firms-according-to-a-broad-studyNov 29 03:08
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft gains most employees from IBM, loses most to Google | Windows CentraNov 29 03:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Ultramarine Linux 39 Review: Fedora for Everyone ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Ultramarine_Linux_39_Review_Fedora_for_Everyone.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Ultramarine_Linux_39_Review_Fedora_for_Everyone.gmi ∎Nov 29 03:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Nov 29 03:26
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Linux Devices and Projects/Products: FriendlyELEC, Raspberry Pi, Arduino ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Linux_Devices_and_Projects_Products_FriendlyELEC_Raspberry_Pi_A.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Linux_Devices_and_Projects_Products_FriendlyELEC_Raspberry_Pi_A.gmi ∎Nov 29 03:28
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers and Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Security_Leftovers_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Nov 29 03:29
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  New or Updates Lists of GNU/Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/New_or_Updates_Lists_of_GNU_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/New_or_Updates_Lists_of_GNU_Linux.gmi ∎Nov 29 03:43
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Nov 29 03:47
schestowitz-pirant: yle doing many "cheap" and "easy" articles about aurora, weather, even things that can be recycled every 12 monthsNov 29 03:59
schestowitz-pithis is "filler" in my booksNov 29 03:59
schestowitz-pilots like this lately: https://yle.fi/a/74-20062178Nov 29 04:00
schestowitz-piFinland set for milder temperatures, heavy snowfall on Tuesday ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20062324Nov 29 04:20
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Red Hat Plans to Retire X.Org Server in RHEL 10 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Red_Hat_Plans_to_Retire_X_Org_Server_in_RHEL_10.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Red_Hat_Plans_to_Retire_X_Org_Server_in_RHEL_10.gmi ∎Nov 29 04:25
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Proprietary Qt Releases and 'Free' Samples for Schools ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Proprietary_Qt_Releases_and_Free_Samples_for_Schools.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Proprietary_Qt_Releases_and_Free_Samples_for_Schools.gmi ∎Nov 29 04:47
techrights-newsTechrights – Microsoft β€œDiscriminated Based on Sexuality” ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Microsoft_Discriminated_Based_on_Sexuality.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Microsoft_Discriminated_Based_on_Sexuality.gmi ∎Nov 29 05:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  PeerTube Gets Better Features Than YouTube With Version 6 Release ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/PeerTube_Gets_Better_Features_Than_YouTube_With_Version_6_Relea.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/PeerTube_Gets_Better_Features_Than_YouTube_With_Version_6_Relea.gmi ∎Nov 29 05:23
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Support for AMD’s next-gen GPUs has been spotted in recent Linux patches ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Support_for_AMD_s_next_gen_GPUs_has_been_spotted_in_recent_Linu.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Support_for_AMD_s_next_gen_GPUs_has_been_spotted_in_recent_Linu.gmi ∎Nov 29 05:26
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Insider Tips for Buying a New Personal Computer ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Insider_Tips_for_Buying_a_New_Personal_Computer.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Insider_Tips_for_Buying_a_New_Personal_Computer.gmi ∎Nov 29 05:30
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Ubuntu cae cada vez mΓ‘s en Distrowatch…, lo cual no significa nada https://www.muylinux.com/2023/11/28/distrowatch-no-significa-nada/ "Schestowitz publica por lo general en su propio sitio, Techrights, pero esta vez lo hace en Tux Machines"Nov 29 05:34
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and Other Canonical/Ubuntu News ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_Other_Canonical_Ubuntu_News.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_Other_Canonical_Ubuntu_News.gmi ∎Nov 29 05:39
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  More Security Incidents, Patches, and Microsoft Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/More_Security_Incidents_Patches_and_Microsoft_Windows_TCO.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/More_Security_Incidents_Patches_and_Microsoft_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Nov 29 05:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/today_s_leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎Nov 29 06:01
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  FriendlyELEC CM3588 NAS Kit comes with four M.2 Key-M 2280 PCIe Gen 3 x1 sockets ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/27/FriendlyELEC_CM3588_NAS_Kit_comes_with_four_M_2_Key_M_2280_PCIe.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/27/FriendlyELEC_CM3588_NAS_Kit_comes_with_four_M_2_Key_M_2280_PCIe.gmi ∎Nov 29 06:05
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Off-Theme Presents: Shades of Purple ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Off_Theme_Presents_Shades_of_Purple.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Off_Theme_Presents_Shades_of_Purple.gmi ∎Nov 29 06:12
techrights-newsTechrights – Just What LINUX.COM Needed After Over a Month of Inactivity: SPAM SPAM SPAM (Linux Brand as a Spamfarm) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Just_What_LINUX_COM_Needed_After_Over_a_Month_of_Inactivity_SPA.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Just_What_LINUX_COM_Needed_After_Over_a_Month_of_Inactivity_SPA.gmi ∎Nov 29 06:14
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  14 Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based Music Players ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/14_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Terminal_Based_Music_Players.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/14_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Terminal_Based_Music_Players.gmi ∎Nov 29 06:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Varia is a Brand New Download Manager for Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Varia_is_a_Brand_New_Download_Manager_for_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Varia_is_a_Brand_New_Download_Manager_for_Linux.gmi ∎Nov 29 06:26
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Tails 5.20 Brings Latest Tor Browser, Ditches AdGuard Filter List ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Tails_5_20_Brings_Latest_Tor_Browser_Ditches_AdGuard_Filter_Lis.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Tails_5_20_Brings_Latest_Tor_Browser_Ditches_AdGuard_Filter_Lis.gmi ∎Nov 29 06:46
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techrights-newsTechrights – Is BlueMail a Client of ZDNet Now? ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Is_BlueMail_a_Client_of_ZDNet_Now.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Is_BlueMail_a_Client_of_ZDNet_Now.gmi ∎Nov 29 07:28
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techrights-newsTechrights – Links 29/11/2023: VMware Layoffs and Too Many Microsofters Going Inside Google ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Links_29_11_2023_VMware_Layoffs_and_Too_Many_Microsofters_Going.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Links_29_11_2023_VMware_Layoffs_and_Too_Many_Microsofters_Going.gmi ∎Nov 29 07:36
techrights-sec3"... on the border between information and opinion."Nov 29 07:36
schestowitz-piPresNov 29 07:37
schestowitz-piopinions are not allowedNov 29 07:37
schestowitz-pijust check what GatesPedia saysNov 29 07:37
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techrights-sec3He is right in that Distrowatch is not an indicator of either relevance  Nov 29 07:43
techrights-sec3or actual popularity.  It is only an indicator of what has been searchedNov 29 07:43
techrights-sec3within Distro Watch itself.  It is a hash review of your post but bringsNov 29 07:43
techrights-sec3up strong points.Nov 29 07:43
schestowitz-pithrowing out there a discussion a discussoion i have atm witj rianneNov 29 07:43
schestowitz-pispymetersNov 29 07:43
schestowitz-piare anbout discriminating based on patters and times of use Nov 29 07:43
schestowitz-pino "spy"Nov 29 07:43
schestowitz-pino discriminationNov 29 07:43
techrights-sec3yesNov 29 07:43
techrights-sec3surveillance metersNov 29 07:43
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Nov 29 07:44
schestowitz-piif they phone me about it ahain (yes, they did THAT too)Nov 29 07:44
schestowitz-pii might say,Nov 29 07:44
schestowitz-pi"i know you go by a script, but let me explain to you what those meters are for"Nov 29 07:44
schestowitz-pithis is akin to network neutrality, in the energy, not packet, senseNov 29 07:45
schestowitz-pigood planNov 29 07:45
schestowitz-piFurthermore, those new meters are very unsafe especially in the contextNov 29 07:45
schestowitz-piof the "hybrid" warfare goinfg on for the last decade or so against EuropeNov 29 07:45
techrights-sec3good planNov 29 07:45
techrights-sec3Furthermore, those new meters are very unsafe especially in the contextNov 29 07:45
techrights-sec3of the "hybrid" warfare goinfg on for the last decade or so against EuropeNov 29 07:45
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schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/o/2021/07/30/the-smart-meter-ode/Nov 29 08:04
schestowitz-piall the poems are like thisNov 29 08:04
schestowitz-pithe newlines are ignoresNov 29 08:04
schestowitz-pi*ignored :-)Nov 29 08:04
techrights-sec3checkingNov 29 08:14
techrights-sec3Where <br /> used?Nov 29 08:14
techrights-sec3Line breaks != <br /> but <br /> == line breakNov 29 08:14
schestowitz-piyes, but.. wordpres :-)Nov 29 08:14
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techrights-newsTechrights – The 'Smart' Attack on Power Grid Neutrality (or the Wet Dream of Tiered Pricing for Power, Essentially Punishing Poorer Households for Exercising Freedom Like Richer Households) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/The_Smart_Attack_on_Power_Grid_Neutrality_or_the_Wet_Dream_of_T.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/The_Smart_Attack_on_Power_Grid_Neutrality_or_the_Wet_Dream_of_TNov 29 09:48
techrights-sec3I can look into itNov 29 09:50
schestowitz-pithanks :-)Nov 29 09:50
schestowitz-pii ended up doing a long post about spymetersNov 29 09:50
*royTheyThem is now known as schestowitz-TR2Nov 29 09:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Richard Stallman: Releasing Free Software If You Work at a University ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Richard_Stallman_Releasing_Free_Software_If_You_Work_at_a_Unive.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/11/29/Richard_Stallman_Releasing_Free_Software_If_You_Work_at_a_Unive.gmi ∎Nov 29 10:18
techrights-newsTechrights – Updated A Month Ago: Richard Stallman on Software Patents as Obstacles to Software Development ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Updated_A_Month_Ago_Richard_Stallman_as_Software_Patents_Obstac.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Updated_A_Month_Ago_Richard_Stallman_as_Software_Patents_Obstac.gmi ∎Nov 29 10:33
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schestowitz-pire https://techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Updated_A_Month_Ago_Richard_Stallman_as_Software_Patents_Obstac.shtml#topNov 29 10:44
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schestowitz-pior similar would help IMHONov 29 10:44
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techrights-newsTechrights – Lookout, It's Outlook ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Child_In_The_White_Doctor_Coat.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Child_In_The_White_Doctor_Coat.gmi ∎Nov 29 11:04
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techrights-sec3router maint, eta 30 minNov 29 11:19
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techrights-sec3backNov 29 12:13
techrights-sec3CSS adjustedNov 29 12:13
schestowitz-pithanks, was this applied locally on the site?Nov 29 12:19
techrights-sec3something similar was applied on the site, the exact change is in GitNov 29 12:19
techrights-sec3though there seems to be a backlog of other CSS changes in the same commitNov 29 12:19
schestowitz-pithat's ok :-)Nov 29 12:20
schestowitz-pii'm happy with the css and it's something we can always apply retroactively to older pagesNov 29 12:20
schestowitz-pii've noticed rms still edits many pages in gnu.orgNov 29 12:20
schestowitz-pihe's not idleNov 29 12:20
techrights-sec3excellentNov 29 12:21
techrights-sec3That's good, I'm hoping that he is spending his time in areas befitting hisNov 29 12:21
techrights-sec3knowledge and experience though. Nov 29 12:21
techrights-sec3His role a 'elder statesman' is very important for continuity.  That's one Nov 29 12:26
techrights-sec3of the main reasons for the attacks and attempts at cancellation, IMHONov 29 12:26
techrights-sec3Opponents of software freedom aim to take down the FSF and failing thatNov 29 12:26
techrights-sec3break as much transitional continuity as possible.  Nov 29 12:26
schestowitz-pihe is aware who is on his sideNov 29 12:27
schestowitz-piwho is notNov 29 12:27
schestowitz-piand who is just pretendingNov 29 12:27
schestowitz-pihis camp is highly supportive of TR but won't say it publicly because we're more blunt and honestNov 29 12:27
techrights-sec3At least non-public support is good. Nov 29 12:34
schestowitz-pigreg and zoe are principled, but camera-shy and mostly quietNov 29 12:35
schestowitz-pito avoid the mob/sNov 29 12:35
schestowitz-pithe funny thing is, TR's stance on certain orgs and people is inherited lik a domino chain or ripples across the communityNov 29 12:35
schestowitz-piso we need to be very careful to fairly criticise those who deserve itNov 29 12:35
schestowitz-piand give them a chance to at least improveNov 29 12:35
schestowitz-pilunduke too has been blowtorching osi and lfNov 29 12:35
schestowitz-piand mozNov 29 12:35
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techrights-sec3I haven't looked at Lunduke's material since spring or longe ago.Nov 29 13:47
techrights-sec3Lunduke was producing gold for a brief period, years ago.Nov 29 13:47
techrights-sec3https://news.err.ee/1609178614/researcher-cost-of-living-largely-behind-birth-rate-slump-in-estoniaNov 29 13:47
schestowitz-pipeople who value quality of life do not reproduce rabbi... i mean rabbits... i mean martyrsNov 29 13:51
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techrights-sec3Apropos the <br /> problem, do you have the heuristics which WordPress uses?Nov 29 13:55
techrights-sec3There's no simple or accurate way to identify lines which stand out as needingNov 29 13:55
techrights-sec3<br /> in div.post because there are many legitimate elemewnts already in place Nov 29 13:55
techrights-sec3which have line breaks but would suffer or break with splattering <br /> in themNov 29 13:55
techrights-sec3Quality of life for those is not a factor, they are quantity only.Nov 29 13:55
schestowitz-pidemocracy works on quantity, tooNov 29 13:55
techrights-sec3Yes, they are gaming the system.  Nov 29 13:56
techrights-sec3"without firing a single shot" -- khadaffiNov 29 13:56
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schestowitz-pii am upset that wordpress, even pre-4.x, encouraged people to write pseudo htmlNov 29 14:02
schestowitz-pieven if they use the 'raw' editorNov 29 14:02
schestowitz-pibasically pseudo-codeNov 29 14:02
schestowitz-pithat then needs conversion from the DBNov 29 14:02
schestowitz-piin the post body, you will see some consistent char for newlineNov 29 14:02
schestowitz-pii am quite certain it is always thereNov 29 14:02
schestowitz-piwordpressseems to always interpret it as start new lineNov 29 14:02
schestowitz-piunder all casesNov 29 14:02
techrights-sec3Looking in the db directly, there's nothing obvious in that post to indicateNov 29 14:03
techrights-sec3non-standard line breaks.  I can check further though.  Nov 29 14:03
schestowitz-piin the wordpress"editor", which i only paste into (from kate), there _must_ be something that signifies Nov 29 14:05
schestowitz-pistart new line after this lineNov 29 14:05
schestowitz-piENTERNov 29 14:05
schestowitz-pibut i don't know how it is stored in maria/myNov 29 14:05
schestowitz-pithis causes footnotes in _all_ older posts to look likeNov 29 14:05
schestowitz-pi______ [1] something Nov 29 14:05
schestowitz-piand some epo leaks get elongated linesNov 29 14:05
schestowitz-pinot consistent with the originalsNov 29 14:05
techrights-sec3Lookint at the post contents, there are \r\n EOL throughout the post, notNov 29 14:16
techrights-sec3just at the wonky breaks.  As mentioned, there's no reliable way to figureNov 29 14:16
techrights-sec3out which of those are orphans and which are legit.  Nov 29 14:16
techrights-sec3It might be possible to find orphaned CDATA and hit that with regex.Nov 29 14:16
techrights-sec3But again that would be unreliable.  It might break more pages than it 'fixes'Nov 29 14:16
techrights-sec3"And why suppliers even bother^M"Nov 29 14:16
techrights-sec3The ^M is there even after block elements, not just inline or CDATANov 29 14:16
techrights-sec3"<p class=\"dropcap-first\"><a name=\"top\">I</a>MAGINE, if you will, a meter so smart</p>^M"Nov 29 14:16
schestowitz-pii wonder how wordpress 3.9.x  interprets thatNov 29 14:18
schestowitz-piand i suspect it's more to do with its editor, which used to come from a third party Nov 29 14:18
schestowitz-piso it might not be in the core wordpress code, eitherNov 29 14:18
schestowitz-pitinymce might be itNov 29 14:18
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techrights-sec3Yes, that is the question above ;)Nov 29 14:24
techrights-sec3It would be in whatever part of WordPress converts from the db to HTMLNov 29 14:24
techrights-sec3https://techrights.org/n/2023/11/29/Updated_A_Month_Ago_Richard_Stallman_as_Software_Patents_Obstac.shtml is a blockquote but is not in the usual templaNov 29 14:24
techrights-sec3te Nov 29 14:24
techrights-sec3for such Nov 29 14:24
techrights-sec3That's part of the reason the formatting is off.Nov 29 14:24
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