Bonum Certa Men Certa

LinuxToday Readers Weigh in on Novell

A discussion began yesterday which revolved around Novell's financial results. Here are a couple of comment (among several more) that highlight the issue that we have with Novell.

First comment:

Steve Stites - Subject: "Don't you DARE ever do that again"?" ( Dec 14, 2007, 20:37:23 )

"That was a really stupid thing to do, trying to weasel around GPL restrictions" followed by stern "Don't you DARE ever do that again"?"

We have tried that. GPLv3 was in development when the Microsoft-Novell deal was announced. Immediately we began working on ways to use GPLv3 to block the Microsoft-Novell deal. The most effective way to accomplish this seemed to be barring companies from distributing GPL software if they agreed to deals like the Microsoft-Novell deal.

There was some bargaining among the entities negotiating the terms of GPLv3 and at the last minute the grandfather clause was dropped into GPLv3. The grandfather clause excepts the Microsoft-Novell deal from the ban on such deals being enforced by a supply side software embargo. The net effect of GPLv3 on the Microsoft-Novell deal became "Don't you DARE ever do that again?". Novell breathed a sigh of relief at having dodged a bullet.

Since GPLv3 was gutted Novell has made no attempt to stop their attack on open source. Novell continued to charge ahead fully on all of the promises they made to Microsoft in the Microsoft-Novell agreement. Since then they have also added:

1. Lobbying on behalf of Microsoft to make OOXML an open standard

2. Attempting to have a Novell employee put in charge of open source standards at the Linux Foundation.

3. Attempting to have a Novell employee put in charge of managing device driver development for Linux

So, "Don't you DARE ever do that again"? has had no noticable effect on Novell's actions. We still need to defend ourselves in every way possible against the combined Microsoft-Novell attack on open source. I agree with CJM that the best possible solution to our conflict with Novell would be for Novell to back out of the Microsoft-Novell agreement. If Novell won't do that then our second best solution is to bankrupt Novell.

------------------ Steve Stites


Second comment

Novell brought it all on themselves. Had they taken the first three years after they purchased SuSE and created a truly great Linux NetWare replacement they would be climbing rapidly back to the top of the server heap and making huge inroads on the workstation market share by now. But, one could tell they had a different, less Linux friendly marketing plan when they announced the departure of key SuSE management and development people.

And then came November 2nd, when Ron Hovsepian announced that HE could not sell SUSE against Windows, so instead of competing against Microsoft he joined with Microsoft in an attack on FOSS and the GPL. If you check the time line from when he was hired, follow what he did and when he did it, you'll see that this direction was planned at least 16 months BEFORE November 2nd, by Hovsepian's own statements. I documented these events in prior LT postings shortly following November 2nd.


Hold on to these observations. Some of them contain valuable information that is new to us.

Recent Techrights' Posts

Enjoy the Giving/Sharing, Not Taking
We've long supported what we believed in, even with the little money we had
 
Software Freedom Day Celebrated in 5 or 6 Continent
Software Freedom Day (SFD) 2026 was big this year
Linux Kernel Becoming a Slopfest - Part 6 - Seeing Who Contaminates Linux With Slop (And Also Admits It)
Today we begin looking at some culprits
SLAPP Censorship - Part 191 Out of 200: Garrett, Graveley and Lozza
They talk to and coordinate with one another
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 20, 2026
IRC logs for Sunday, September 20, 2026
Gemini Links 21/09/2026: Digital Hoarder, GTD, Minimalism vs Digital Minimalism, Rejection of LLMs
Links for the day
Links 20/09/2026: "Google Now Asking For Users’ Video Selfies" and Energy Prices Set to Rise
Links for the day
Links 20/09/2026: Amazon Layoffs, Flock 'Buyouts' (Silent Layoffs)
Links for the day
USCIS and Microsoft Rumours: Curbs on Lowering Salaries by Importing Cheaper Replacements?
It seems like Microsoft's mass layoffs and efforts to cheapen the workforce face obstacles
Gemini Links 20/09/2026: "Music While Working" and Radio Silence
Links for the day
Clownflare Data From Canada
We've like to think many people are attempting to install GNU/Linux over the weekend
SLAPP Censorship - Part 190 Out of 200: Plagiarism, Back Doors, and Sabotage of Linux
This can go on for a decade or longer
Linux Kernel Becoming a Slopfest - Part 5 - Kernel Dependency on Plagiarism Giant Microsoft is a Death Blow to Any Kernel
Microsoft is bringing copyright-infringing slop into Linux
GNU/Linux Has Grown a Lot Lately
Based on Clownflare
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 19, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, September 19, 2026
Links 19/09/2026: Many Patents Become Candidates for Annulment and Linux [sic] Foundation Takes More Slop Money to Promote Malicious Bots
Links for the day
Gemini Links 19/09/2026: The Fundamental Human Assets, The History of Gopher's "i" Type, and ROOPHLOCH 2026
Links for the day
Links 19/09/2026: "OpenAI and Microsoft Knew They Were Starting a ‘Doom Loop’ [of Mass Plagiarism 'Normalised' by Brute Force] for the web", Calling It "Hey Hi"
Links for the day
8 Series Going on at the Moment in Techrights
4 series about SLAPPs and related matters
Linux Kernel Becoming a Slopfest - Part 4 - Outsourcing to Microsoft, Approaching 10 Gigabytes
Can we blame Microsoft for those DDoS attacks? Partly.
SLAPP Censorship - Part 189 Out of 200: A Terrible Idea to Condemn Projects for Using Slop 'Code' When Your Own Employer Does This (and Profits From Every Company Doing So) or to Call Distros 'Not Secure' While You Advance Back Doors
"I don’t want a back door. I want a front door."
Software Freedom Day 2026 is Today, Week-long Celebration in Brazil
In Brazil, Clownflare reckons about 1 in 20 laptops/desktops might use GNU/Linux already
Red Hat Lost 2,000 Staff (Net Loss)
Maybe by year's end it'll be a 20% reduction
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, September 18, 2026
IRC logs for Friday, September 18, 2026