Bonum Certa Men Certa

Novell and Mono: The Kiss of Death to Free Software

Microsoft-Miguel-Novell tag team extraordinaire

A reader contacted us regarding a serious problem. He said that he "pointed out on a forum that .NET had died on the vine and that when .NET projects run out of time and money people turn back to Java to get the task finished. That appears to have got the Microsoft fans going with this one."



To conclude, he added: ".NET really does seem to have died on the vine, but Microsoft boosters see the value of tainting as many FOSS projects with software patents as possible."

This reader is not alone. have a look at this new analysis of the direction of GNOME:

When such an important project as GNOME obviously lacks a direction, has a poor governance and a missing leadership, how can I trust it not to get more and more Mono-encumbered?

Some people object that there are very few Mono-based applications in GNOME (mainly Tomboy and F-Spot), however they are always advertised with each and every GNOME release!

* Let's now take a historical look of how some guy wanted to screw GNOME since 2002 (Red Hat, were you sleeping those days?): * 2002-02-01: Gnome to be based on .NET – de Icaza. €«"I'd like to see Gnome applications written in .NET in version 4.0 - no, version 3.0. But Gnome 4.0 should be based on .NET," he told us.€»

* 2002-06-01: Mono and GNOME. The long reply. (Miguel de Icaza). €«As you might realize by now, GNOME 4 is not planned, it is not possible to know what is in there. So my comments on GNOME 4 only reflect the fact that I personally believe that people will see that Mono is an interesting platform to write new applications.€»

* 2002-06-04: one more message from de Icaza: €«I was not trying to force Mono on anyone. The only reason why I thought that GNOME would move to Mono on the long term is because our goals are aligned. [...] But the real reason is that .NET (and hence Mono) was designed to be an evolutionary path for applications. [...] For example, it would be silly to rewrite Gnumeric or StarOffice with C#, that would be a complete waste of time. But one really useful feature for Gnumeric would be to have its VB interpreter running on Mono.€»


* If the KDE flock is going with KDE4, why should we assume there isn't a similar bunch of GNOME sheep to go with Miguel de Icaza's Mono?


Miguel de Icaza is currently the Vice President of Developer Platform at Novell Inc. That's the company somebody chose to write a thesis about: Managing Firm-Sponsored Open Source Communities. That's a company for the future. And Miguel is a smart guy.


So it's very likely that GNOME 3.0 or 4.0 will indeed be Mono-based.


And no, tiny bugs in Gedit won't get fixed in the meantime. It's not "sexy", you know.



As the first comment states (and to an extent demonstrates too), it's an eye opener to some.

People were brainwashed by the likes of Slashdot -- essentially pushed to the point of believing Miguel was an open source hero. Well, by Microsoft's definition of it, maybe he is.

Shortly afterward there was a less restrained outburst, especially at the sight of Moonlight's legal implications, which we warned about all along (since the project's inception and even a couple of days ago).

Mono, The Road To Hell: Final Proof



[...]

This is a Microsoft-branded piece of shit.

Now, if there are still Linux users still loving Mono, and still believing they have anything in common with FREEDOM & Open Source, they're idiots like hell.

Proofs of MALA FIDE from Microsoft's part:

1. NOBODY interested in a good-faith patent protection would restrict the protection to the downstream recipients of a UNIQUE source — but this is what Microsoft is doing!

2. NOBODY interested in a good-faith patent protection would restrict the protection to the UNMODIFIED AND USED "AS INTENDED" ("for the intended purpose") for an OPEN-SOURCE project — but this is what Microsoft is doing!

3. NOBODY interested in a good-faith patent protection would restrict the protection in any ways. Simply imposing restrictions means WHATEVER FALLS OUTSIDE THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS IS SUBJECT TO FEAR, UNCERTAINTY AND DOUBT!

Yes, this is Microsoft. Yes, this covenant is ONLY and ONLY for the benefit of Novell's SLED and SLES, and for the benefit of openSUSE. This is for people to ONLY consider openSUSE as a "safe" Linux way to use Moonlight and Mono, and therefore to increase the penetration of SLED/SLES as "the" Linux for the Enterprise.

This is the abjection of the Microsoft-Novell fascist conspiracy.


Will somebody. Anybody. Somewhere. Please stop Novell and Miguel already. I'm sure that the typical Microsoft/Novell boosters/apologists will continue to attack this Web site and do gymnastics in logic to deny all of this. That's pointless. In fact, this item will be closed to comments.

As another reminder of the 'political' corruption that's striving to phase in software patents everywhere, here are some news picks (mostly from Digital Majority):

The following bit is about applying a taxation mechanism to patents. The hope is to hinder abuse/misuse of the system.

Merpel adds, as for patent renewal fees, their adjustment will presumably affect the behaviour of the small fry far more than that of the big battalions -- but it's not the tiddlers that create the thickets and do the trolling, is it?


That all sounds good in theory, but...

Patent Reform Act “dead in the water,” eh? So says the following article, which merely repeats what we already know: the system is too corrupt to repair itself (exhorting against the corruption would be a cyclic thing). It seems hopeless, unless the system totally collapses and people take it to the streets.

The efficacy of the patent system is not equivalent across all industries, and appears to be particularly ineffective in software, said a panel at the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy conference held at Yale University last week.

[...]

A lot of unpatented prior art, which does not make it into considerations at the patent and trademark office, said Berger, could add to this problem. She added that EFF is working with open source company Mozilla to crease a wiki-style platform of prior art in software they hope can be eventually used by patent examiners.

Efforts have failed so far in terms of patent reform, she said, citing the status of the Patent Reform Act as “dead in the water” in the US Congress for the time being, and asking what people interested in technology policy might do about this problem.


More debates on software patents in the UK:

Patent attorneys, lawyers, judges and businesses have often had trouble determining exactly what inventions are and are not eligible for patent protection, particularly where the invention involves software. A 2006 ruling in the Court of Appeal was designed to settle the issue by clarifying the rules that patent examiners and judges should apply to assess whether inventions are for patentable subject matter.

[...]

"The election to solicit pre-pay clientele is unarguably a 'business method'," wrote Judge Fysh. "The consequence in 'computer terms' forms no part of the invention; it is done with appropriate software. Moreover, even if it did form part of the invention, it would therefore only involve the construction of appropriate computer programs and would also be excluded from patentability."


Lots of the gory details are here. [via Digital Majority] Bear in mind that the likes of Finjan (London-base, sponsored by Microsoft) are already doing what they can to totally ruin the UK as well.

Last but not least, lookie here! Look who's back. Commissioner McCreevy [1, 2, 3] talks about harmonisation, but one that revolves around legal destruction, not peace and harmony.

Ministers will discuss a progress report on this issue prepared by the Slovenian Presidency. Commissioner McCreevy will encourage Member States to continue to work constructively in this process.


For interesting information about patents and Linux in the Halloween memo, see this document. Mono's greatest and most vocal among defenders would tell us to just "shut us and code." Those Mono defenders who 'know better' blindly accept the abuse of GNOME by Novell and Miguel. After all, who needs to ever bother with all that tiresome 'politics', right? Well...

"Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone."

--Richard Stallman



No Mo'!

Nomo

Recent Techrights' Posts

Google Still Promotes Plagiarism From WebProNews and Prolific Slopfarms
Google News seems lost and hopeless sometimes
Linux Foundation Has Found a New Business: Pyramid Schemes
Linus Torvalds should have known better
 
Almost a Thousand EPO Workers Have Voted for Industrial Action
Mandate given to SUEPO for action plan to stop the salary erosion of EPO staff
Why So Many Software Projects Are Quitting Microsoft and GitHub
Be more like LibreWolf. Move away from Microsoft and GitHub.
Many of the Attacks on Us Apparently Boil Down to Jealousy
Envy is a negative trait that leads people to self harm
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, December 09, 2025
IRC logs for Tuesday, December 09, 2025
Valuing One's Work by the Effort or Budget Taken to Undermine It
As long as what we publish is factual, nothing prevents its publication
IBM Says It Buys Another Company for "AI", So Why Does IBM Fire Its Own "AI" Experts?
As people rightly point out, this has nothing to do with "AI"
The Boundaries of Criticism
The harder the EPO will push back, the better the job we must have done
New EPO Series: Mafia Culture, Mobbing, Nepotism, and Illegal Drugs
The series shall start later today
Richard Stallman Was Right About "AI"
"Considering Stallman worked in the MIT AI lab in the era of symbolic AI, and has written GCC (an optimizing compiler is a kind of symbolic reasoner imo), I think he has a deeper understanding of the question than most famous people in tech."
With 3 Weeks Left (Sans Extensions) the Free Software Foundation (FSF) Has Already Raised About Half of the Money Set as Fund-Raising Goal
“Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it.” — Richard Stallman
Gemini Links 10/12/2025: Cranberry Juice and Gramophones
Links for the day
IBM: We Lay Off Tens of Thousands of People the Very Same Week We Spend 11 Billion Dollars (Debt) on "AI" Fantasies, Hiring About 8,000 People at Cost of 1.3+ Million Dollars Per Employee
Seems like IBM is run by fools
Links 09/12/2025: Tariffs Causing Great Harm and "How to Leave the U.S.A."
Links for the day
Links 09/12/2025: "After the Bubble" (of Slop), "The Internet Forgets"
Links for the day
Gemini Links 09/12/2025: Lunar Observations and Programming
Links for the day
They Won't Tell You This ("Revolution Won't Be Televised"), But the Slop Bubble Already Burst
We already wrote about it twice this morning
UbuntuPIT Started Experimenting With LLM Slop and a Month Ago It 'Died'
This is the typical trajectory of slopfarms
LibreWolf Will Turn Six in March, It Already (Probably) Has Millions of Users
It's not possible to know the number of users LibreWolf has
The Year of the New Dark Age
Something isn't right
Slopwatch May be Doomed
Slop isn't changing the world, certainly not in a good way anyway
BetaNews Still a Dodgy Site, It Seems to be Partly Run by Chatbots
The company that took over apparently tries to "monetise" the domain with slop
Tomorrow the EPO Administrative Council is Meeting to Discuss the EPO, Contact Your National Representative Today
Final versions of the EPO Administrative Council photo gallery
IBM's Total Debt is About to Hit Almost 80 Billion Dollars, the Company Can Only Raise $14.8 Billion Within 3 Months
Route towards insolvency, not just irrelevancy
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, December 08, 2025
IRC logs for Monday, December 08, 2025
IBMers Impacted by the Mass Layoffs (Which IBM Tries Not to Talk About) Are Livid as the CEO "Spends 11 Billion He Doesn’t Have"
IBM dooms both its brand and its future
Consumerism and Christmas
Many of us yearn for prior decades when December was about family, not shopping
'Linux' Foundation 'Research' (Marketing) Has New Report About "Open Source" and It Was Made Using Proprietary Software and Not Linux
what 'Linux' Foundation 'Research' is
Links 08/12/2025: Cambodia-Thailand Air Raids, Japan/China Military Incident
Links for the day
The "Cut 10,000 Jobs" Clickbait and Microsoft Sites Now Speculating That Microsoft CEO Has Just Signalled More Mass Layoffs
by our tally, Microsoft had more than 30,000 layoffs this year, not 15,000
Canonical Outsourcing Ubuntu to Microsoft Results in Broken Ubuntu, Just as One Can Expect
State actors and Microsoft prefer it that way
Mocking a Software Developer for Using the Terminal or Programs Like Emacs
A decade ago someone asked RMS (Richard Stallman, founder of the free software movement) to send a screenshot
OpenAI Traffic Collapsing (for 3 Months in a Row About 20% Down Per Month), Bankruptcy Likely Soon
How much time has OpenAI got before its massive debt is too much for anyone to shoulder or bear?
IBM + NDA = Laid Off Workers Saying "Thank You" for the Layoffs
The important thing is, for now, more people become aware of it
Monsieur Claude Sahl, Part of the Administrative Council of the EPO (Which Fails to Administer the EPO), Has Been There For Over 30 Years
They have basically built themselves a very expensive palace in Bavaria (Germany), in which to grant European monopolies to billionaires and companies that aren't even European
Open Letter to the Administrative Council of the EPO Calls For Action as Salaries Decrease (Just Like Patent Validity)
Based on what I heard and spoke about with journalists, they accept there is a substance abuse problem at the EPO's management
Links 08/12/2025: "Leaving Intel" (Exodus Continues) and Ways "to Civilize Digital Life"
Links for the day
Gemini Links 08/12/2025: Earbuds and Offline 'Smartphones'
Links for the day
Books About Bubbles
calling things "AI" and "AIs" can mislead the reader
Links 08/12/2025: Slop Failing and Windows Users Won't 'Upgrade' Due to Slop
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, December 07, 2025
IRC logs for Sunday, December 07, 2025