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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: June 22nd, 2008



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[H]omerGood morningJun 22 10:52
[H]omerAnyone awake on this rainy Sunday morning?Jun 22 10:52
tessierHi [H]omerJun 22 10:52
tessierI'ma keJun 22 10:52
tessierawakeJun 22 10:52
[H]omerHello there - what time is it with you?Jun 22 10:52
tessierI wish it was rainy here. It's gonna be another 100F day here on the outskirts of San DiegoJun 22 10:52
tessier3:01am hereJun 22 10:52
[H]omerAhJun 22 10:53
[H]omer100F? Ouch!Jun 22 10:53
[H]omerI was going to do some gardening today ... but no chance now.Jun 22 10:53
[H]omerIt's been a slow weekend. Not much happening at all.Jun 22 10:53
schestowitzHomer, mind if I repost you excellent message about OOXML (from COLA)? The one with 20 refs? I'll attritute.Jun 22 10:54
[H]omerGo right aheadJun 22 10:54
schestowitzta.Jun 22 10:55
schestowitzI'll also embed that movies of yours. ;-)Jun 22 10:55
schestowitz*movieJun 22 10:55
[H]omerwhich one?Jun 22 10:55
schestowitzDo you have several vidz on OOXML?Jun 22 10:55
[H]omererm ... not that I rememberJun 22 10:56
schestowitzAhh.. okay... Bollywood would fit well because BN.com has many Indian readers.Jun 22 10:56
[H]omerOh *that* oneJun 22 10:56
[H]omerYeah :)Jun 22 10:56
[H]omerFunny as HellJun 22 10:56
schestowitzMS India head jumped ship possibly due to the OOXML fiascoJun 22 10:57
schestowitzThey seem to have bribed charities, you know?Jun 22 10:57
tessierA Bollywood vid about OOXML?Jun 22 10:57
schestowitzH-P is essentially hiring a felon before conviction, I suppose.Jun 22 10:57
[H]omerYeah, I was reading some old BN articles about that earlierJun 22 10:57
schestowitzYes, <tessier>. It's in Homer's homepage. I'll link to it soon.Jun 22 10:57
schestowitzI'm not sure if it's related to OSUSE's release, but there has been a lot of pressure on the server in recent days (since a day before the release).Jun 22 10:59
[H]omerHere's the code:Jun 22 10:59
[H]omer<embed src="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/bt.swf" width="400" height="370" ALLOWSCRIPTACCESS="always" flashvars="code= a221a5c05697436edabcd72358abc097"></embed>Jun 22 10:59
schestowitzYes, got it earlier.Jun 22 10:59
schestowitzDid a "view source".Jun 22 10:59
[H]omerahJun 22 10:59
schestowitzBTW. any words from that  Debian developer we heard from, who worries about Mono too? We need the truth, but Groklaw and others struggle because there's lots of obscure stuff (no OSP).Jun 22 11:00
schestowitzEben never returned an E-mail, so I'll take that as "disinterest"Jun 22 11:01
schestowitzNew comment in reply you, homer: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/15/m...Jun 22 11:01
[H]omerEither that or Eben is still looking into itJun 22 11:02
schestowitzJust posted from Germany (maybe that troll) with an E-mail address that's English.Jun 22 11:02
schestowitzThe name he posts under is just some garbled mess of chars and code words.Jun 22 11:02
schestowitzI never spoke to Eben before. I spoke to Peter Brown and Stallman several times in the past, but never to Eben. I assume he knows me though.Jun 22 11:03
[H]omerhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/15/mon...Jun 22 12:11
[H]omerWhen will these idiots stop claiming that I am "denying" or "forcing" people to do something? I'm not "forcing" anyone to embrace Freedom.Jun 22 12:12
schestowitzIt's spin doctoring. I've just found some good RMS quotes that describe exactly what you're experiencing here.Jun 22 12:16
[H]omerWhat's the URL for that "Freedom Vs Power" article on gnu.org (or fsf)?Jun 22 12:23
[H]omerGot it: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fr...Jun 22 12:24
schestowitzI posted a comment a few moments ago that related to this aspect as well.Jun 22 12:29
schestowitzHomer, I warmly recommend that you watch this talk: http://manchester.fsuk.org/blog/2008...Jun 22 12:29
[H]omerNot sure, but I think I may have seen it. I'll have another look.Jun 22 12:49
[H]omerYes, I've got it (and seen it). It starts out a bit slow and predictable, but it quickly gets better. Overall it's excellent.Jun 22 12:52
[H]omerFunny ending tooJun 22 12:52
[H]omerI want one of those hatsJun 22 12:53
[H]omer:)Jun 22 12:53
schestowitzThey don't make them anyone. That's what he says anyway.Jun 22 12:56
schestowitz*anymoreJun 22 12:56
schestowitzOOXML goes to Bollywood: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/0...Jun 22 13:08
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[H]omerI read the articleJun 22 14:57
[H]omerLOL! That'll bring the shills out in full forceJun 22 14:57
[H]omerThey'll be frothing at the mouthJun 22 14:57
schestowitz[Just got back from gym] I have another important one on the way.Jun 22 17:46
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schestowitzHere is an important new post. It's off my chest now: http://boycottnovell.com/20...Jun 22 19:19
schestowitzGroklaw: http://www.newscientist.com/articl... ( Microsoft gains double-clicking patent )Jun 22 19:23
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schestowitzI know this may be frowned upon, but one channel that occasionally discusses document standards (ODF) is also #oiic , in case someone ever wishes to join in. They were glad that Marbux wasn't there to troll.Jun 22 20:14
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