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MinceRgnJan 04 02:37
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schestowitznnJan 04 02:48
schestowitzwm, kentma1 Jan 04 02:48
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anivarschestowitz:  Kerala is moving to Non Free Way againJan 04 04:58
anivar2 major supporters for Free Software in Govt is Removed by The Govt. (Leaded by Communist Party of India (Marxist))Jan 04 04:58
anivarChief Ministers IT advisor and Arun M (Special Officer, ICFOSS & FSF India Secretry) is removedJan 04 04:59
anivarschestowitz: Also see new Reports like this http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-...Jan 04 05:01
anivarvote in FSdaily http://www.fsdaily.com/Government/Kerala_IT_poli...Jan 04 05:04
anivarAlso there is a move to Change IT Policy of the stateJan 04 05:04
anivar<http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Tit...Jan 04 05:05
anivarschestowitz: pingJan 04 05:05
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schestowitzShane hardly gets the chance to post and the trolls try to incite him against the site. His sarcasm was also misunderstood. He'll hopefully be posting soon (he's on vacation).Jan 04 10:05
tessierIt's quiet in here this evening...Jan 04 10:13
schestowitzWhat time is it? 2am?Jan 04 10:13
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DarkUraniumhiJan 04 10:17
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schestowitzHeyJan 04 10:20
tessierIt's 2:32am here nowJan 04 10:30
tessierschestowitz: What part of the world are you in?Jan 04 10:30
schestowitzUK.Jan 04 10:31
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tessierAh. That explains the hours you seem to keep.Jan 04 10:34
schestowitzI went to sleep at 4:30Jan 04 10:34
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schestowitz"boycottnovell also has a lot of great quotes. It's worthwhile visiting just for the quotes." http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=200...Jan 04 10:51
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MinceRgeekingsJan 04 11:30
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schestowitzThe old press is not just being neglected; it's dying. Bailing out the press, newspapers at risk < http://www.axcessnews.com/index.php/a... >Jan 04 11:36
schestowitzSome people in position of authority would be frantic if the press lost its appeal. "Who would control what people read, and think?"Jan 04 11:37
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Axzhttp://www.blogpirate.org/2009/01/04/ms-int...Jan 04 13:07
Axzschestowitz, something you think about it?Jan 04 13:07
schestowitzHey, thanks.Jan 04 13:09
schestowitzI don't like feeding Net ApplicationJan 04 13:09
schestowitzIt's a Big Lie stat.Jan 04 13:09
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Axzsorry i lost you whats big lie stat?Jan 04 13:12
schestowitzThe way these stats are gatheredJan 04 13:12
schestowitzThey are Linux hostile by designJan 04 13:12
schestowitzBrowsers are a different story because Firefox runs on WindowsJan 04 13:12
Axzah lol oke yeah i understand trueJan 04 13:13
Axzi though maybe you could enjoy the read :pJan 04 13:13
schestowitzThanks, I do.Jan 04 13:17
schestowitzHold on.Jan 04 13:17
schestowitzRead this: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/...Jan 04 13:18
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seller_liarBizarre m$ patentsJan 04 13:53
seller_liarhttp://technologizer.com/2009/01/02/mic...Jan 04 13:53
AxzheheJan 04 13:53
seller_liarIt's a good article , 15 topicsJan 04 13:54
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schestowitzHey seller_liar Jan 04 13:57
seller_liarschestowitz: hello royJan 04 13:57
schestowitzseller_liar: I will soon post something importantyJan 04 13:57
schestowitzIt ought to show also how Microsoft 'corrupts' (IMHO) Brazil's governmentJan 04 13:57
seller_liarschestowitz:interesting thingJan 04 13:57
schestowitzseller_liar: technologizer is an MS shills siteJan 04 13:57
schestowitzIt's run by some Harry guy who's a buddy of theirs.Jan 04 13:58
seller_liarschestowitz: M$ is very stupid for put patents in animationJan 04 14:00
schestowitzYes, they need to share shareholders something.Jan 04 14:03
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schestowitzI need assistance.Jan 04 15:03
schestowitzSee if you stop typos here: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/04/microso... (Microsoft dumps non-Free software on Kerala to block GNU/Linux; more antitrust exhibits unveiled)Jan 04 15:04
schestowitzThis is majorJan 04 15:04
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schestowitzIn a nutshell, this is a set of Big memos from MicrosoftJan 04 15:04
schestowitzThey were circulated among the very top chiefs including BallmerJan 04 15:05
schestowitzThey show that: 1) Microsoft uses talking points and FUD (in its sldies)Jan 04 15:05
schestowitz2) Microsoft 'attacks' countries adopting Linux with dumping tacticsJan 04 15:05
schestowitz3) Microsoft spies on the markets that may adopt LinuxJan 04 15:05
schestowitz4) It does this in Kerala alsoJan 04 15:05
schestowitzI'll need to proofread it now.Jan 04 15:05
schestowitzIf you look at my extraction of the text (and images) at the bottom, this is pretty major -- it's solid proof of targeted Microsoft dumping against GNU/Linux and Free software.Jan 04 15:09
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zoobab /win 2Jan 04 15:59
schestowitzzoobab: what's up?Jan 04 15:59
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zoobabsick as hell after the New Year in BerlinJan 04 16:09
zoobabgoing to fetch medecines nowJan 04 16:09
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zoobabdo you want to come for FOSDEM? Rui is staying at my placeJan 04 16:11
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schestowitzFOSDEN is filled with SUSE people.Jan 04 16:12
schestowitz*DEMJan 04 16:12
schestowitzWill houghi be there?Jan 04 16:12
benJImanHe has been the last couple of years.Jan 04 16:13
anivar_schestowitz:  sent a mailJan 04 16:13
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anivarjust seen your postJan 04 16:13
schestowitzThanks.Jan 04 16:14
*schestowitz checks mailJan 04 16:15
benJImanThere are a lot more debian people at fosdem than suse.Jan 04 16:15
benJImanA noticible lack of ubuntu people though.Jan 04 16:15
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/04/...Jan 04 16:16
schestowitzDebian does not seem to be big in central EuropeJan 04 16:17
schestowitzOOPSJan 04 16:17
schestowitzI mean, UbuntuJan 04 16:17
benJImanI think it's more that the actual developers use debian, and fosdem is a developer conference.Jan 04 16:18
*benJIman wonders why schestowitz doesn't use British or ISO standard date format.Jan 04 16:19
schestowitzWordPress default.Jan 04 16:20
schestowitzanivar: I'll post more info about it later on.Jan 04 16:21
benJImanFOSDEM is going to be expensive this year with GBP failing so much.Jan 04 16:21
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schestowitzI thought it had fallen low enough when I sold my dollars.Jan 04 16:23
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benJIman1:1 with the euro now.Jan 04 16:23
schestowitzhttp://finance.yahoo.com/currency-conve...Jan 04 16:24
schestowitzYupJan 04 16:24
schestowitzYou beat me to it.Jan 04 16:24
schestowitzI was going to say the same thing.Jan 04 16:24
schestowitzhttp://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GBPUSD=X&t=...Jan 04 16:24
schestowitzSCO 2: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GBPUSD=X...Jan 04 16:25
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schestowitzA VC backed exit just two days into 2009? Amazing! "http://www.techflash.com/venture/SourceLabs..."Jan 04 16:32
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen... < Climate change policies failing, Nasa scientist warns Obama >Jan 04 16:35
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ushimitsudokiMicrosoft is editing their PressPass transcriptions to remove embarrassing quotes?Jan 04 16:54
ushimitsudokiA *lot* of sources either directly link to, or refer to this speech of ballmer: http://www.microsoft.com/pres...Jan 04 16:55
ushimitsudokiWhere he asserting patent violationsJan 04 16:55
ushimitsudokiBut I can't find the quotes in the transcript?Jan 04 16:55
ushimitsudokiexample of a direct link reference: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-...Jan 04 16:55
schestowitzHiyaJan 04 16:56
ushimitsudokihowdyJan 04 16:56
ushimitsudokiran across that tonight might be interestingJan 04 16:56
schestowitzInteresting.Jan 04 16:56
schestowitzTonight?Jan 04 16:57
schestowitzI checked http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/...Jan 04 16:57
ushimitsudokiyeah, still working on the "quote project" and noticed that I couldn't find that quote in the transcriptJan 04 16:57
schestowitzI was hoping to find that it was written by Peter Galli, who is now a Microsoft employee (he used to just be an MS mole attacking FOSS from eWeek)Jan 04 16:57
schestowitzI wrote an important item earlier.Jan 04 16:58
anivarschestowitz: i sent u a mailJan 04 16:58
anivarschestowitz: yes. before 30 minJan 04 16:58
schestowitzI alerted Glyn about it. http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/01...Jan 04 16:59
schestowitzMy comment will appear there shortly.Jan 04 16:59
schestowitzanivar: I received it.Jan 04 16:59
schestowitzShould I append to the current post or make a followup?Jan 04 16:59
anivarschestowitz: as you likeJan 04 16:59
schestowitzI reckon some people from 'above' are trying to toss people.Jan 04 16:59
schestowitzTypical Slog-like routine.Jan 04 17:00
anivari think append is betterJan 04 17:00
schestowitzAnd we must expose them.Jan 04 17:00
schestowitzIt's like Massachusetts.Jan 04 17:00
schestowitzanivar: I will append.Jan 04 17:00
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schestowitzanivar: the post is updated: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/04/... Thank you.Jan 04 17:20
schestowitz Happy 'Gnu Year' http://www.examiner.com/x-2177-Seatt...Jan 04 17:29
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schestowitzbblJan 04 17:39
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trmancohttp://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-717117-...Jan 04 19:24
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-christel-[Global Notice] Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen -- it's time for a somewhat late christmas pantomime.. I need to do a spot of rehubbing, it shouldn't take too long and you're welcome to point and laugh if it all breaks! Apologies for the inconvenience and have a nice day!Jan 04 19:49
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schestowitzUber-splitJan 04 20:11
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Axznice schestowitz the uptimeJan 04 21:12
Axzwhat distro?Jan 04 21:12
schestowitzUbunntu on that oneJan 04 21:12
schestowitzThe disusting stalkers from USENET are abusing my account in DiggJan 04 21:15
schestowitzDisgusting. They must be TEs. They try to gag and they try to hide the message.Jan 04 21:16
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Axzschestowitz, whats your digg?Jan 04 21:39
schestowitz'schestowitz'Jan 04 21:39
schestowitzI've just posted something about it in USENET (about an hour ago)TJan 04 21:40
schestowitzThey mass-bury submissions of mine, hoping to put me in trouble.Jan 04 21:40
Axzadded you as friendJan 04 21:41
schestowitzThanks.Jan 04 21:41
schestowitzGento?Jan 04 21:41
schestowitz"Hey there! Gento is your latest fan. He became your fan because he likes what you are up to on Digg and wants to see what you think is interesting. You can either leave him as a fan or add him to your own list of friends. Check out his profile here:"Jan 04 21:41
schestowitz9:42PMJan 04 21:41
AxzlmaoJan 04 21:42
AxzyeahJan 04 21:42
schestowitzI can't add more friends because it's maxed upJan 04 21:42
Axzwhats a stupid message :PJan 04 21:42
schestowitzThey limit friends to about 1002Jan 04 21:42
schestowitzAxz: E-mail notificationJan 04 21:42
schestowitzI get all sortsJan 04 21:42
schestowitzAlso for new comments in BN, Google Alerts, etc.Jan 04 21:42
Axzyeah i knowJan 04 21:42
schestowitzI used to befriend all those who marked me as friend.Jan 04 21:43
Axzwell i be your truly fan then :PJan 04 21:43
AxzYeah i ;m not that long on diggJan 04 21:44
Axzi'm also not that long in the unprofessional journalism :pJan 04 21:44
Axzdoing my best.. from skills i had from coding and tweaking around..Jan 04 21:44
schestowitzI've done that as a hobby since 2003 or 2004Jan 04 21:44
schestowitzStarted my own little page in 2002Jan 04 21:44
AxzYeah nice job on web mateJan 04 21:45
Axzi think its heaving patientJan 04 21:45
schestowitzYes.Jan 04 21:45
schestowitzBN grew a lot, so it's worth more attentionJan 04 21:45
Axzwell mine is 3 months oldJan 04 21:45
schestowitzI spend less time on other things now.Jan 04 21:45
schestowitzIt's a momentum thing.Jan 04 21:45
schestowitzHold on.Jan 04 21:45
Axzwe are progressive Tech/Piracy/Linux general cultureJan 04 21:46
Axzlets say freedom of speechJan 04 21:46
schestowitzThis was published today: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/W...Jan 04 21:46
schestowitzSome people see their sites tripling in size of audienceJan 04 21:46
schestowitzSome just die like Technocrat or slow down like GroklawJan 04 21:46
schestowitzschestowitz.com has also been fairly static for /years/Jan 04 21:46
AxzyepsJan 04 21:46
schestowitzSo the readership that seeks new stuff (subscriber) moves on (and away)Jan 04 21:47
schestowitzYes, the trolls are still attacking my submissions in DiggJan 04 21:47
Axzyeah, well its funny world writing articles.Jan 04 21:48
schestowitzThey get near to the front page, so they try to gag meJan 04 21:48
schestowitzStupid vandals.Jan 04 21:48
AxzwowJan 04 21:48
schestowitzMicrosoft TEs fearing their their masters might be seen for the crimes they commit..Jan 04 21:48
schestowitzI had to log off to see the abuse: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Is_Mi...Jan 04 21:49
schestowitzIn RSS I see this too because that's where I'm lgogged off, so no fitersJan 04 21:49
schestowitzThe first chap there is a Microsoft boosterJan 04 21:49
schestowitzBeen doing this for years in lots of the major sites, inc. SlashdortJan 04 21:49
schestowitzA former editor of Slashdot admitted that Microsoft is gaming themJan 04 21:50
schestowitzThe second comment is worth reading too.Jan 04 21:50
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schestowitzhttp://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/200... ( Bethesda Company Sues Realtor For Copyright Claim )Jan 04 22:03
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schestowitzAxz: http://www.adriantry.com/7-reasons...Jan 04 22:54
schestowitzIt may fit the theme you coverJan 04 22:54
Axzyeps thanksJan 04 22:59
schestowitzHeh. Just posted: http://translate.google.com/translate?sour...Jan 04 23:01
schestowitzThe original is in Deutsch: http://vale.homelinux.net/wordpress/200...Jan 04 23:01
AxzheheJan 04 23:08
PetoKrausschestowitz: this might be an interesting article for you http://www.cleverjoe.com/articles...Jan 04 23:08
PetoKrausit is pretty old, but worth readJan 04 23:09
schestowitzThe problem is, not the singers are paidJan 04 23:10
schestowitzMusic is everywhere.Jan 04 23:10
schestowitzBirds sing tooJan 04 23:10
schestowitzMusic is acquired by inspirationJan 04 23:10
PetoKrauswell this article deals with something differentJan 04 23:10
schestowitzSo all music is just an assembly of inpuit we received, outputted broadlyJan 04 23:10
schestowitzAnd copyrights are for labels most of the timeJan 04 23:11
PetoKrausit's basically - say you wanna record your piano works playing, say, Dire Straits or Keith EmersonJan 04 23:11
schestowitzThey own the copyrightsJan 04 23:11
PetoKrausand when you wanna release your cover, you need to pay royalty feeJan 04 23:11
PetoKrausi just wonder whether it applies for commercial use only, or for non-commercial distribution as wellJan 04 23:11
schestowitzIt's impracticalJan 04 23:11
schestowitzIf everyone paid for oxygen, that would just be a zero sum gameJan 04 23:11
PetoKrausas far as I understand the word "royalty", it's %age of gain, isn't itJan 04 23:11
schestowitzSame with software patentsJan 04 23:11
PetoKrausfrom saleJan 04 23:11
schestowitzEconomically, it's better off to live without them.Jan 04 23:12
PetoKrauswell anywayJan 04 23:12
schestowitzRednditions are another beastJan 04 23:12
PetoKrausi can proceed with my Kyuss - Big Bikes ۩ huntJan 04 23:12
schestowitzPeople are not allowed to do their own rendition of "happy birthday"Jan 04 23:12
schestowitzLet alone utter lyricsJan 04 23:12
PetoKrausLibrary of CongressJan 04 23:13
PetoKrausCopyright OfficeJan 04 23:13
PetoKrausLicensing Division, LM-458Jan 04 23:13
PetoKraus101 Independence Avenue, S.E.Jan 04 23:13
PetoKrausWashington, D.C. 20557-6400Jan 04 23:13
schestowitzThat's a dangerous path to take.Jan 04 23:13
schestowitzLawyers, like bankers, are a form of leech that creates revenue from other people's misery, which is imposed from above.Jan 04 23:13
schestowitzCopyrights are for people without talent where they are enforced with little realisation of business models that maximise exposureJan 04 23:13
schestowitzBetter known artists are just selling themselves to advertisersJan 04 23:13
schestowitzPeople like Speaks become big because of the "brand" the MAFIAA built for her.Jan 04 23:14
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schestowitzSo copytights are mostly for them to monetise her as an objectJan 04 23:14
schestowitzFor voice, dance, looks, etc.Jan 04 23:14
schestowitzThat's how the moguls view it too and treatment -- likewise -- is bad.Jan 04 23:14
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MinceRgnJan 04 23:43
schestowitzEarly one, eh?Jan 04 23:44
MinceRgot to work againJan 04 23:44
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