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| wispygalaxy | ok thanks roy | Apr 10 00:00 |
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| wispygalaxy | on the front page of BN? | Apr 10 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Posted | Apr 10 00:00 |
| schestowitz | wispygalaxy: well, I want to see what's up with their campaign | Apr 10 00:00 |
| wispygalaxy | ah i just saw it | Apr 10 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Stilll going... http://freeculture.org/ | Apr 10 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Not so strong anymore, though | Apr 10 00:00 |
| wispygalaxy | spread the love haha | Apr 10 00:01 |
| wispygalaxy | i hope it will be okay | Apr 10 00:01 |
| *_Hicham_ (n=hicham@wana-133-245-12-196.wanamaroc.com) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Interesting article I found out about as well as some commentary below: http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/... They link to Microsoft's "Security Intelligence Report", where they essentially blame the user who doesn't patch their systems for security problems." | Apr 10 00:08 |
| wispygalaxy | compiz never fails to impress me! http://lunduke.com/?p=376 | Apr 10 00:08 |
| wispygalaxy | this is your link, roy | Apr 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | wispygalaxy: watch the video in the latest links batch | Apr 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | That's the Free Culture stuff. I'll post more in the coming week (there are 8 parts) | Apr 10 00:08 |
| wispygalaxy | compiz is so fast and amazing | Apr 10 00:08 |
| wispygalaxy | cool, i'll be looking forward to it | Apr 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | Gotta put pressure on em now: France says 'non' to three strikes law < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new... > They'll try again and probably succeed | Apr 10 00:09 |
| wispygalaxy | glitzy stuff *does* matter, who wants to look at a boring UI all day | Apr 10 00:10 |
| wispygalaxy | i couldnt stand the grey of win98 | Apr 10 00:10 |
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| wispygalaxy | oh i heard about that on Digg, roy, about the 3 strikes thing | Apr 10 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Today I saw Windows | Apr 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Not on /my/ computer | Apr 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Of course it was XP, not Vista | Apr 10 00:11 |
| wispygalaxy | whew haha | Apr 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Vista was RTMed in 2006 | Apr 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | 2009 and it's nowhere. | Apr 10 00:11 |
| wispygalaxy | egads | Apr 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | And it's ugly and primitive | Apr 10 00:11 |
| wispygalaxy | and it ate too much RAM on my lappy :( | Apr 10 00:11 |
| wispygalaxy | debian makes my HD so quiet | Apr 10 00:11 |
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| wispygalaxy | i don't understand why XP is so ugly, wtf is up with the green fischer-price theme lol | Apr 10 00:13 |
| _Hicham_ | hi wispygalaxy | Apr 10 00:13 |
| wispygalaxy | hey _hicham_ long time no see | Apr 10 00:13 |
| wispygalaxy | i'm *still* not a 1337 gamer yet | Apr 10 00:14 |
| wispygalaxy | and i dont have a tricked-out laptop for games | Apr 10 00:14 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : i just saw that Mark Shuttleworth is going to rewrite Gnome, X11, and Kernel using Mono | Apr 10 00:15 |
| _Hicham_ | wispygalaxy : try postal2 | Apr 10 00:15 |
| _Hicham_ | there is some cool games for linux | Apr 10 00:15 |
| wispygalaxy | yes tux racer is so cute! | Apr 10 00:15 |
| wispygalaxy | penguins have a special place in my heart :P | Apr 10 00:16 |
| wispygalaxy | i'll look up postal2, thanks | Apr 10 00:16 |
| _Hicham_ | postal2 worked like a charm on my laptop | Apr 10 00:18 |
| wispygalaxy | my lappy is a tad weak to play modern games | Apr 10 00:18 |
| wispygalaxy | i looked at the specs for some games- my processor is not good enough :( | Apr 10 00:19 |
| _Hicham_ | what config do u have? | Apr 10 00:20 |
| wispygalaxy | i have a 1.73 GHz processor, many games want more than 1.8 GHz | Apr 10 00:20 |
| wispygalaxy | Anyway, my friend recently told me that he now uses OpenOffice. He's a sociology major and can use it *easily*. | Apr 10 00:21 |
| _Hicham_ | is it a pentium M? | Apr 10 00:23 |
| wispygalaxy | core 2 duo | Apr 10 00:23 |
| _Hicham_ | u can run all linux games then | Apr 10 00:24 |
| _Hicham_ | commercial and free ones | Apr 10 00:24 |
| wispygalaxy | yay linux loves me | Apr 10 00:25 |
| wispygalaxy | any games you recommend? | Apr 10 00:25 |
| tacone | i love teeworlds | Apr 10 00:26 |
| balzac | I forgot to say something positive about the good news re: TomBoy | Apr 10 00:26 |
| silentivm | teeworlds is cool | Apr 10 00:26 |
| tacone | and more deep than it seems. | Apr 10 00:26 |
| _Hicham_ | wispygalaxy : wait | Apr 10 00:26 |
| tacone | a lot to learn. | Apr 10 00:27 |
| balzac | That's nice to see a developer correct his course | Apr 10 00:27 |
| tacone | balzac: it's a fork. | Apr 10 00:27 |
| balzac | I won't rip out TomBoy from each Ubuntu installation if it's the C++ version | Apr 10 00:27 |
| tacone | from a ex-novell dev. | Apr 10 00:27 |
| wispygalaxy | i'll look up teeworlds | Apr 10 00:27 |
| balzac | F--- C#! | Apr 10 00:28 |
| tacone | balzac: there's an ubuntu ppa for the new tomboy afaik | Apr 10 00:28 |
| wispygalaxy | lol balzac | Apr 10 00:28 |
| _Hicham_ | wispygalaxy : here u go http://www.linuxlinks.com/art... | Apr 10 00:28 |
| wispygalaxy | C# ripped off java :( | Apr 10 00:28 |
| wispygalaxy | thanks _hicham_ | Apr 10 00:28 |
| tacone | wispygalaxy: a nice commercial game with a free demo is TowerOfGoo | Apr 10 00:28 |
| _Hicham_ | balzac : C# is a hideous creature from Microsoft | Apr 10 00:28 |
| wispygalaxy | haha i remember the penny arcade game, when it first came out | Apr 10 00:28 |
| tacone | it's awesomely made. | Apr 10 00:29 |
| wispygalaxy | towerofgoo, sounds interesting hehe :) | Apr 10 00:29 |
| tacone | it's very nice. | Apr 10 00:29 |
| wispygalaxy | good graphics? | Apr 10 00:29 |
| balzac | And it does a disservice the venerable legacy of C languages | Apr 10 00:29 |
| tacone | download the demo straight away | Apr 10 00:29 |
| tacone | yes, pretty graphics, and quite creative. | Apr 10 00:29 |
| _Hicham_ | there is a game about cold war | Apr 10 00:29 |
| wispygalaxy | oooooh | Apr 10 00:29 |
| _Hicham_ | it is very good | Apr 10 00:29 |
| tacone | yes it is. | Apr 10 00:29 |
| balzac | It's not a serious C language, but plenty of young developers will be fooled | Apr 10 00:29 |
| tacone | and runs at hi-resolution on my box <3 | Apr 10 00:30 |
| wispygalaxy | opengl is involved? | Apr 10 00:30 |
| wispygalaxy | i personally think opengl looks great | Apr 10 00:30 |
| tacone | guess yes. | Apr 10 00:30 |
| _Hicham_ | wispygalaxy : of course opengl | Apr 10 00:30 |
| wispygalaxy | it's better looking than using directx | Apr 10 00:31 |
| tacone | wispygalaxy: the demo is free. download it. it's some hours of fun. | Apr 10 00:31 |
| wispygalaxy | sure, i will :) | Apr 10 00:31 |
| tacone | gotta go | Apr 10 00:31 |
| tacone | good night | Apr 10 00:31 |
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| wispygalaxy | see ya tacone! | Apr 10 00:31 |
| wispygalaxy | balzac: c vs c++? | Apr 10 00:32 |
| wispygalaxy | hehe | Apr 10 00:32 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: seen the shuttleeorth piece | Apr 10 00:32 |
| schestowitz | linus format | Apr 10 00:32 |
| schestowitz | *linux format | Apr 10 00:32 |
| schestowitz | i spoke to them about mono problems | Apr 10 00:32 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : it is just April Fools Day? | Apr 10 00:33 |
| _Hicham_ | or is it for real? | Apr 10 00:33 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 10 00:35 |
| schestowitz | joke | Apr 10 00:35 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : Shuttleworth's view about Mono hasn't changed | Apr 10 00:36 |
| _Hicham_ | he still supports mono | Apr 10 00:36 |
| wispygalaxy | that's too bad :( | Apr 10 00:37 |
| _Hicham_ | wispygalaxy : what kind of games do u like? | Apr 10 00:38 |
| wispygalaxy | i like fantasy games | Apr 10 00:39 |
| wispygalaxy | playstation has the perfect game library for me | Apr 10 00:40 |
| wispygalaxy | the wii is a bit childish for my taste | Apr 10 00:40 |
| _Hicham_ | wispygalaxy : then there is too games for u on linux | Apr 10 00:45 |
| _Hicham_ | commercial ones | Apr 10 00:45 |
| wispygalaxy | i play games on the pc and console | Apr 10 00:46 |
| wispygalaxy | so i'm glad there are linux games :D | Apr 10 00:46 |
| _Hicham_ | Penumbra: Black Plague , Penumbra: Overture | Apr 10 00:46 |
| _Hicham_ | they r both Adventure/Fantasy games | Apr 10 00:46 |
| wispygalaxy | thanks for all these titles | Apr 10 00:47 |
| _Hicham_ | u r welcome | Apr 10 00:48 |
| _Hicham_ | for postal2, u may have to do this for the sound to work : sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss | Apr 10 00:49 |
| wispygalaxy | i'll keep that in mind, thanks | Apr 10 00:50 |
| wispygalaxy | hicham, do you use debian now | Apr 10 00:51 |
| _Hicham_ | yes | Apr 10 00:51 |
| _Hicham_ | I use a mixture of stable, testing, unstable and experimental | Apr 10 00:51 |
| wispygalaxy | isn't it wonderful? :) | Apr 10 00:51 |
| _Hicham_ | it is just great | Apr 10 00:51 |
| _Hicham_ | what i like the most is its stability | Apr 10 00:52 |
| _Hicham_ | never had a problem with it | Apr 10 00:52 |
| wispygalaxy | no crashes, speedy, looks gorgeous, etc | Apr 10 00:52 |
| _Hicham_ | everything just works ! | Apr 10 00:52 |
| wispygalaxy | yes, it does ^_^ | Apr 10 00:52 |
| _Hicham_ | and works great by the way ! | Apr 10 00:52 |
| _Hicham_ | I find that even debian experimental packages are more stable than ubuntu's packages | Apr 10 00:53 |
| _Hicham_ | it has really a great quality assurance system | Apr 10 00:53 |
| wispygalaxy | the debian team is committed to stability | Apr 10 00:53 |
| wispygalaxy | the ubuntu guys are interested in cool new software | Apr 10 00:53 |
| wispygalaxy | for some people, they want rock-solid software and do not care about the bleeding-edge stuff | Apr 10 00:54 |
| wispygalaxy | but i do want to test out fedora, experimenting is fun ;) | Apr 10 00:54 |
| _Hicham_ | wispygalaxy : fedora is great also | Apr 10 00:54 |
| _Hicham_ | it is the most cutting edge for the moment | Apr 10 00:55 |
| _Hicham_ | try Fedora 11 Alpha | Apr 10 00:55 |
| wispygalaxy | i will try :) | Apr 10 00:55 |
| _Hicham_ | nonetheless, Fedora suffers from its packaging system | Apr 10 00:55 |
| _Hicham_ | still | Apr 10 00:55 |
| wispygalaxy | ah yes, yum | Apr 10 00:55 |
| _Hicham_ | yes | Apr 10 00:55 |
| _Hicham_ | yum has a long way to go to catch up with apt | Apr 10 00:56 |
| wispygalaxy | apt-get goodness for me in debian | Apr 10 00:56 |
| wispygalaxy | and for debian's babies | Apr 10 00:56 |
| wispygalaxy | like ubuntu, elive, etc. | Apr 10 00:56 |
| _Hicham_ | yes | Apr 10 00:57 |
| _Hicham_ | I tested fedora 10 | Apr 10 00:57 |
| _Hicham_ | it is very good | Apr 10 00:57 |
| _Hicham_ | but the packagekit isn't as good as synaptic | Apr 10 00:58 |
| wispygalaxy | thanks for helping out the fedora community by testing it :) | Apr 10 00:58 |
| wispygalaxy | i haven't tried yum yet, i hope it is awesome! | Apr 10 00:58 |
| wispygalaxy | anyway, i love how nowadays you can boot from usb devices | Apr 10 00:58 |
| wispygalaxy | you don't need to waste CDs anymore | Apr 10 00:59 |
| _Hicham_ | booting from USB devices saves me from using Windows when I am not on my computer | Apr 10 01:00 |
| wispygalaxy | a lifesaver! | Apr 10 01:00 |
| wispygalaxy | oops, be right back | Apr 10 01:01 |
| _Hicham_ | ok | Apr 10 01:01 |
| schestowitz | An exposition, however long overdue, about NPD-Microsoft relationship: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04... | Apr 10 01:02 |
| schestowitz | Another part of Microsoft is dying/died: http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/... (Microsoft Breaks Up Its Live Labs Group) | Apr 10 01:04 |
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| _Hicham_ | wb oiaohm | Apr 10 01:15 |
| oiaohm | Blender game engine now has 2 commerical game makers looking at it. | Apr 10 01:17 |
| oiaohm | This could get interesting for those who say Linux has few games if more follow. | Apr 10 01:17 |
| _Hicham_ | linux has some interesting games | Apr 10 01:18 |
| _Hicham_ | i am talking about commercial ones | Apr 10 01:18 |
| _Hicham_ | i just tried postal2, it is just great | Apr 10 01:18 |
| _Hicham_ | it works like a charm on my debian lenny | Apr 10 01:19 |
| oiaohm | The commerical game makers 1 has highered staff to work on the open source engine. The other is looking at joining. | Apr 10 01:19 |
| oiaohm | With blender UI inprovements we will have universal game creator. | Apr 10 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Another tough day for Microsoft is a sigh of relief to Free software: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/0... | Apr 10 01:20 |
| _Hicham_ | it would be great to see all Windows Games ported to Linux | Apr 10 01:20 |
| *schestowitz will be back in the morning | Apr 10 01:20 | |
| silentivm | nice, I hope someday it will be possible to create game with a fully-open source toolset | Apr 10 01:20 |
| silentivm | *create games | Apr 10 01:21 |
| _Hicham_ | Microsoft is dead, dead, dead, fucking dead | Apr 10 01:21 |
| oiaohm | Bleeding _Hicham_ not dead yet. | Apr 10 01:21 |
| oiaohm | silentivm: blender you can. Issue is UI. | Apr 10 01:21 |
| silentivm | yep | Apr 10 01:22 |
| oiaohm | blenders current UI that is being replaced basically predates Windows and Linux existance. | Apr 10 01:22 |
| silentivm | I tried to learn Blender once, found its interface too confusing | Apr 10 01:22 |
| oiaohm | New interface is on way with programgramable key board short cuts new logic system. Yep most of the head aches fixed. | Apr 10 01:23 |
| silentivm | I hope | Apr 10 01:23 |
| silentivm | :) | Apr 10 01:23 |
| _Hicham_ | I hope so too | Apr 10 01:24 |
| _Hicham_ | games will be cross-platform | Apr 10 01:25 |
| _Hicham_ | since MS is loosing market to Linux | Apr 10 01:25 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blender.org/development/cu... << The UI rework project | Apr 10 01:25 |
| oiaohm | Logic block are gone from blender. | Apr 10 01:27 |
| oiaohm | Those web of I don't know what in heck it doing system. | Apr 10 01:27 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : how long is MS going to live? | Apr 10 01:28 |
| oiaohm | They have atleast another 5 years of bleeding to go. | Apr 10 01:29 |
| _Hicham_ | at least 5 years? | Apr 10 01:29 |
| oiaohm | With good management they can life to the other side. | Apr 10 01:29 |
| balzac | oiaohm: I enjoyed reading the good news about blender | Apr 10 01:29 |
| balzac | I'm very good at modelling in blender, BTW | Apr 10 01:29 |
| oiaohm | I hate using the old blender UI. | Apr 10 01:30 |
| silentivm | I'm not. In fact, I'm not good at anything which involves art :( | Apr 10 01:30 |
| balzac | silentivm: if you like emacs, you might also like blender | Apr 10 01:30 |
| _Hicham_ | that means that they can recover during this 5 years? | Apr 10 01:30 |
| silentivm | I've used Emacs, but not often | Apr 10 01:30 |
| silentivm | no problems with it | Apr 10 01:30 |
| oiaohm | cut paste and copy being different to everything else causes me all kinda of problems. | Apr 10 01:30 |
| oiaohm | Means to set out keymaps without having to rebuilt from source will make me happer with blender. | Apr 10 01:31 |
| balzac | blender is very customizable, and each "window" can be assigned to any "buffer" | Apr 10 01:31 |
| silentivm | makes sense | Apr 10 01:31 |
| balzac | split the windows how you want, switch between preset arrangements | Apr 10 01:31 |
| balzac | make heavy use of keybindings... | Apr 10 01:31 |
| silentivm | hmmm | Apr 10 01:31 |
| balzac | what could be better than blender? it's such a tiny download too. | Apr 10 01:32 |
| balzac | with python for scripting | Apr 10 01:32 |
| oiaohm | I guess you will be like me happy to see logic bricks go balzac | Apr 10 01:32 |
| oiaohm | And replaced with something more usable. | Apr 10 01:32 |
| balzac | oiaohm: I basically know nothing more than modelling | Apr 10 01:32 |
| balzac | but I did watch a video on that, and it looked weak | Apr 10 01:32 |
| wispygalaxy | i'm back! | Apr 10 01:32 |
| balzac | you've got to start somewhere, and game development is not simple | Apr 10 01:32 |
| wispygalaxy | hello, oiaohm | Apr 10 01:33 |
| balzac | wb wispygalaxy | Apr 10 01:33 |
| wispygalaxy | i'm wispy | Apr 10 01:33 |
| oiaohm | Hi wispygalaxy | Apr 10 01:33 |
| wispygalaxy | thanks balzac! | Apr 10 01:33 |
| wispygalaxy | you guys talking about games | Apr 10 01:34 |
| wispygalaxy | i was talking to hicham about that | Apr 10 01:34 |
| oiaohm | blender game development of a simple game has always been simple. It was how complex the logic blocks got that stuffed it for doing more complex games. | Apr 10 01:34 |
| oiaohm | started off with blender and it getting a commerical game maker working on it. | Apr 10 01:34 |
| balzac | i knew that would happen eventually | Apr 10 01:35 |
| balzac | great news | Apr 10 01:35 |
| balzac | I know the perfect youtube video to celebrate | Apr 10 01:35 |
| balzac | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... | Apr 10 01:36 |
| wispygalaxy | haha! | Apr 10 01:37 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : who is this commercial game maker? | Apr 10 01:37 |
| balzac | that video never fails to put a smile on my face | Apr 10 01:38 |
| oiaohm | http://blenderartists.org/forum... They are not EA arts just name looks close. | Apr 10 01:38 |
| balzac | I'm like gimli: eeeee hee hee! [clap!] | Apr 10 01:39 |
| wispygalaxy | XD | Apr 10 01:39 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : if EA starts developing games for Linux only, MS will be fucking dead, dead, dead | Apr 10 01:42 |
| oiaohm | _Hicham_: MS could be around for a long time to come. | Apr 10 01:43 |
| oiaohm | Even after Windows and xboxs are distance memories. | Apr 10 01:44 |
| oiaohm | The question is if there management is smart enough. SUN is trying to merge with other compamines but it has been the walking dead for 20 years. | Apr 10 01:45 |
| wispygalaxy | all my pals say that if linux had brand-spanking new games, they wouls use it | Apr 10 01:45 |
| wispygalaxy | but i tell them there are plently of good games out there | Apr 10 01:45 |
| wispygalaxy | for linux | Apr 10 01:45 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of things changing this year. | Apr 10 01:46 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : examples? | Apr 10 01:46 |
| wispygalaxy | i'd say the netbook market, newer and cooler productons | Apr 10 01:46 |
| balzac | yeah, games are one of Microsoft's last reasons people stick around | Apr 10 01:46 |
| oiaohm | Gallium3D Unifined back end for 3d graphics. It was design to have opengl and direct x stacked on top. | Apr 10 01:47 |
| wispygalaxy | the majority of people i know who play games use the wii | Apr 10 01:47 |
| oiaohm | Thinking gallium3d will be released on Linux first. But it opens up the path for wine developers to more directly hook up there Direct X to the video card. | Apr 10 01:48 |
| wispygalaxy | opengl is awesome, i hope development will continie | Apr 10 01:48 |
| wispygalaxy | continue* | Apr 10 01:48 |
| balzac | Microsoft has these deals with hardware manufacturers to subsidize or punish them for withholding their driver code from Linux kernel compatibility | Apr 10 01:48 |
| oiaohm | DRI2 work to stablised Linux graphical envorment. | Apr 10 01:48 |
| wispygalaxy | remember the foxconn scandal last dummer? | Apr 10 01:49 |
| wispygalaxy | summer* | Apr 10 01:49 |
| balzac | if Microsoft loses game developers, they lose the special relationship with those hardware manufacturers, and they lose everything | Apr 10 01:49 |
| _Hicham_ | Fuck MS, fuck their shitty OS | Apr 10 01:49 |
| oiaohm | Then thinks like androd that say too hell with X11. | Apr 10 01:49 |
| balzac | if GNU & Linux is better for gamers, (and it soon will be), M$ is up the creek without a paddle | Apr 10 01:49 |
| wispygalaxy | owned | Apr 10 01:49 |
| oiaohm | MS always has a paddle just a reducing 1. | Apr 10 01:50 |
| balzac | _Hicham_: you are very passionate about M$, in a dirty way, apparently | Apr 10 01:50 |
| oiaohm | MS power is there intergration between parts. | Apr 10 01:50 |
| balzac | "Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap!" | Apr 10 01:50 |
| wispygalaxy | even more so in the past, you have to pay attention to what your customer wants. they don't want unsecure OSes when privacy concerns are growing | Apr 10 01:50 |
| wispygalaxy | linux offers them a good solution | Apr 10 01:51 |
| wispygalaxy | gnu/linux | Apr 10 01:51 |
| balzac | _Hicham_: Steve Ballmer might have some words for you, my friend. | Apr 10 01:51 |
| oiaohm | Linux still need work. | Apr 10 01:51 |
| oiaohm | But its getting there. | Apr 10 01:51 |
| balzac | if he knew of your passion... | Apr 10 01:51 |
| _Hicham_ | balzac : I liked his "Developers" Remix on youtube | Apr 10 01:51 |
| wispygalaxy | i can't imagine using ballmer and passion in the same sentence! | Apr 10 01:51 |
| wispygalaxy | too scary | Apr 10 01:52 |
| _Hicham_ | Ballmer, bald head | Apr 10 01:52 |
| _Hicham_ | good to be hit with a big hammer | Apr 10 01:52 |
| _Hicham_ | right on his bald head | Apr 10 01:52 |
| balzac | a pie | Apr 10 01:53 |
| wispygalaxy | i pity him, almost, since he can't be cool | Apr 10 01:53 |
| wispygalaxy | has to act like a clown | Apr 10 01:53 |
| oiaohm | Ballmer did not start MS problems. | Apr 10 01:53 |
| balzac | no hammers, no bloody-mindedness | Apr 10 01:53 |
| oiaohm | He is the poor guy stuck with it. | Apr 10 01:53 |
| *balzac slaps _Hicham_ around with a large trout | Apr 10 01:54 | |
| wispygalaxy | food fight | Apr 10 01:54 |
| balzac | (not a trouser-trout, a fish-market trout) | Apr 10 01:54 |
| wispygalaxy | *wispygalaxy throws eggs at ballmer | Apr 10 01:54 |
| wispygalaxy | i know, haha balzac | Apr 10 01:55 |
| balzac | wouldn't want to give the wrong impression about my feelings or lack-thereof for you _Hicham_ | Apr 10 01:55 |
| balzac | jk | Apr 10 01:55 |
| wispygalaxy | rofl | Apr 10 01:55 |
| _Hicham_ | balzac : don't worry | Apr 10 01:56 |
| balzac | don't pity ballmer | Apr 10 01:56 |
| wispygalaxy | i guess i shouldn't heh | Apr 10 01:56 |
| balzac | he has so much money to wipe the tears from his eyes | Apr 10 01:56 |
| wispygalaxy | and the sweat off his head | Apr 10 01:57 |
| balzac | i feel sorry for me. where's all my money? where's my yacht? | Apr 10 01:57 |
| wispygalaxy | ask obama | Apr 10 01:57 |
| wispygalaxy | he'll give you a bailout | Apr 10 01:57 |
| wispygalaxy | jk :) | Apr 10 01:58 |
| balzac | Just as long as it doesn't come in the form of a "stimulus package" | Apr 10 01:58 |
| _Hicham_ | balzac : u will be the top billionaire in the world soon | Apr 10 01:58 |
| balzac | _Hicham_: you will be a high-ranking executive, if my dreams come true. | Apr 10 01:58 |
| balzac | just for saying that. | Apr 10 01:58 |
| silentivm | XD | Apr 10 01:59 |
| wispygalaxy | you guys are such good buddies lol | Apr 10 02:00 |
| wispygalaxy | :) | Apr 10 02:00 |
| balzac | well, I say nice things about certain rich people, so they should let the rope ladder down for me | Apr 10 02:00 |
| wispygalaxy | govt spending will pump too much money in the economy | Apr 10 02:00 |
| balzac | =] | Apr 10 02:00 |
| wispygalaxy | ah, i see hehe | Apr 10 02:00 |
| balzac | I've even praised Bernie Madoff | Apr 10 02:01 |
| wispygalaxy | hope they won't cut it right before you get to the top! | Apr 10 02:01 |
| balzac | but I don't praise them indiscriminantly | Apr 10 02:01 |
| wispygalaxy | my finance teacher wanted madoff | Apr 10 02:01 |
| wispygalaxy | madoff's head* | Apr 10 02:01 |
| balzac | I praise George Soros, but not Bill Gates | Apr 10 02:01 |
| balzac | he must have been jealous of Madoff | Apr 10 02:01 |
| wispygalaxy | i think so XD | Apr 10 02:01 |
| balzac | jk | Apr 10 02:01 |
| wispygalaxy | well, my prof did make a bit of money off bonds | Apr 10 02:02 |
| balzac | i pity the guy. we'll see how his sentencing goes. | Apr 10 02:02 |
| wispygalaxy | he's not really talking | Apr 10 02:02 |
| _Hicham_ | good night friends | Apr 10 02:02 |
| wispygalaxy | bye hicham! | Apr 10 02:02 |
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| wispygalaxy | if he'd cooperate, the judge said he'd be lenient | Apr 10 02:02 |
| balzac | there went _hitcham_ while I was in another channel | Apr 10 02:03 |
| wispygalaxy | madoff had constantly outperformed the market, and that did not raise any red flags | Apr 10 02:03 |
| wispygalaxy | it is very abnormal to perform like that | Apr 10 02:03 |
| balzac | lenient when he's facing 150 years could still mean he dies in jail | Apr 10 02:03 |
| wispygalaxy | even warren buffet has down years | Apr 10 02:03 |
| balzac | not likely, but possible | Apr 10 02:03 |
| wispygalaxy | he's already old | Apr 10 02:03 |
| wispygalaxy | my prof said that about buffet | Apr 10 02:04 |
| balzac | buffet just had a big down year, if i'm not mistaken | Apr 10 02:04 |
| wispygalaxy | everyone did :( | Apr 10 02:04 |
| wispygalaxy | but my family isn't really hurting that much, to be honest. my dad is a careful investor | Apr 10 02:05 |
| balzac | these days, careful investors are buying gasoline, guns, ammo, and canned food | Apr 10 02:06 |
| balzac | actually, it's not necessarily that bad yet | Apr 10 02:06 |
| wispygalaxy | i heard that stockpiling's been happening | Apr 10 02:07 |
| balzac | i'm just saying... how much worse can it get? do we really know? | Apr 10 02:07 |
| wispygalaxy | when will america wake up | Apr 10 02:07 |
| balzac | when george bush's neck is stretched, that's when! | Apr 10 02:07 |
| wispygalaxy | lol | Apr 10 02:08 |
| balzac | that was pretty gnarly to say | Apr 10 02:08 |
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| wispygalaxy | yes haha | Apr 10 02:08 |
| wispygalaxy | but ballmer's said crazier lol | Apr 10 02:09 |
| balzac | welp, time for me to head out | Apr 10 02:09 |
| balzac | nice chatting | Apr 10 02:10 |
| balzac | toodle-loo | Apr 10 02:10 |
| wispygalaxy | see ya balzac :) | Apr 10 02:10 |
| balzac | cya wispygalaxy =] | Apr 10 02:10 |
| wispygalaxy | have a fab weekend | Apr 10 02:10 |
| balzac | yeah, this is the one with the big stripping contest | Apr 10 02:11 |
| balzac | this saturday, a woman will be crowned top-stripper | Apr 10 02:11 |
| wispygalaxy | where is that | Apr 10 02:11 |
| balzac | brooklyn nyc | Apr 10 02:11 |
| wispygalaxy | that's a bit far away | Apr 10 02:11 |
| balzac | you're in england? | Apr 10 02:12 |
| wispygalaxy | NJ | Apr 10 02:12 |
| wispygalaxy | new joisey :P | Apr 10 02:13 |
| balzac | oh, I thought you were in england because a few folks in here know Roy from living there. | Apr 10 02:13 |
| wispygalaxy | nah, but i have a lot of friends from there | Apr 10 02:13 |
| wispygalaxy | i guess i like people from there :) | Apr 10 02:13 |
| balzac | drop me a line if you like | Apr 10 02:13 |
| wispygalaxy | ok np | Apr 10 02:13 |
| balzac | ttyl | Apr 10 02:14 |
| wispygalaxy | see you | Apr 10 02:14 |
| wispygalaxy | *ping* schestowitz | Apr 10 02:16 |
| wispygalaxy | oh schez, where art thou? ;) | Apr 10 02:18 |
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| wispygalaxy | roy???? | Apr 10 02:24 |
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| wispygalaxy | i guess he's tucked away in bed, sleeping | Apr 10 02:33 |
| wispygalaxy | night night all, i'm off too | Apr 10 02:33 |
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| schestowitz | Morning.. | Apr 10 07:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toz0n9... ... | Apr 10 08:06 |
| oiaohm | That guy is hitting the points. | Apr 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Yes, watch all parts | Apr 10 08:27 |
| schestowitz | Very reasonable explanation | Apr 10 08:27 |
| oiaohm | I forget to mention the other thing due to the ext4 stuff up the maintainer of the ext filesystems lost his direct submit rights to the Linux kernel. | Apr 10 08:33 |
| oiaohm | Price of screwing up in Linux kernel features is high. | Apr 10 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Who is he working for? | Apr 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | The Gavin Clarke POS is still dropping anti-Linux headlines in The Register. Unless they want to become an MS publication, they really ought to kick out those MS moles. | Apr 10 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Kelly is another MS mole... I might just stop reading it after years. | Apr 10 08:56 |
| schestowitz | BN is doing over 2k pages/hour in recent days. We really ought to organise the material in the site better. | Apr 10 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Conficker Using MySpace, eBay As A Clock < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009... > | Apr 10 09:02 |
| schestowitz | WSJ To Google: Do What We Say, Not What We Do < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/200... > | Apr 10 09:03 |
| schestowitz | CYBER THREATS TO INFRASTRUCTURE < http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/... > | Apr 10 09:13 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.wired.com/defense/... "A Moldovan activist faces criminal charges for organizing demonstrations that were enabled by social networking tools like Twitter and Facebook, the Russian press reports. " | Apr 10 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Organising protests is a crime now? Wow. Goodbye, democracy. | Apr 10 09:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.osor.eu/news/hu-companies-puzzle... | Apr 10 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Linux-based tablets for under $200? http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/09/... | Apr 10 09:24 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 10 09:35 |
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| schestowitz | Linux Foundation CEO: Linux is "fastest growing platform" < http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/... > | Apr 10 09:39 |
| MinceR | "The office of deputy state secretary Ferenc did not yet respond to questions." | Apr 10 09:42 |
| MinceR | i lol'd | Apr 10 09:42 |
| MinceR | (Ferenc is his first name) | Apr 10 09:42 |
| schestowitz | For years I have watched the NPD-Microsoft connection. Now that they spew anti-Linux FUD I presented evidence. Maybe it's a little off topic, but FWIW: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/09... | Apr 10 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Ferret? | Apr 10 09:46 |
| MinceR | it isn't very nice to small mammals to draw such parallels. :> | Apr 10 09:47 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/... "The anti-Linux propaganda du jour, being dutifully parroted by "news" publications everywhere, is that Windows now owns 96% of the netbook market, and that Linux netbooks are returned four times more than windows netbooks. Both are untrue and have been debunked repeatedly. Yet they persist-- why?" | Apr 10 09:47 |
| schestowitz | "I think Microsoft is growing increasingly desperate, and in hard economic times is finding equally desperate publications who will say anything for a few bucks. Which may be a harsh judgment, but I would rather believe that than believe they simply don't care to do even the simplest, most basic fact-checking, or are such hard-core Microsoft fanboys.." | Apr 10 09:48 |
| schestowitz | "...that they are only pretending to be journalists when they are really stringers for Microsoft's marketing department. How else can we explain the same nonsense repeated endlessly, their allergies to saying "Windows" and "malware" in the same sentence, the short shrift given to non-Windows software, the mind-boggling assumption that Windows is computing? " | Apr 10 09:48 |
| MinceR | oh, wait, i think this might be a different person from the one i thought of | Apr 10 09:48 |
| MinceR | and i won't research it, so never mind :> | Apr 10 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Ferrets are good for research | Apr 10 09:48 |
| schestowitz | We use them here for CT scans and such. | Apr 10 09:48 |
| schestowitz | They are bred for experiments :-( | Apr 10 09:49 |
| oiaohm | Conficker is using every trick to avoid containment. | Apr 10 09:51 |
| oiaohm | We may see the first major failure of Anti-virus companies. | Apr 10 09:51 |
| schestowitz | Ifeel the pain | Apr 10 09:51 |
| schestowitz | Many people do... it's DDOSing on the Web. | Apr 10 09:51 |
| oiaohm | Resposnce system is almost as bad as the infection. | Apr 10 09:52 |
| MinceR | who are the targets of the DDoS? | Apr 10 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Correct that. | Apr 10 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Worse than the infection. | Apr 10 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Its not exactly DDos. | Apr 10 09:52 |
| oiaohm | DNS servers are trying to block Conficker from connection. | Apr 10 09:53 |
| oiaohm | Conficker infected servers also block particular sites. | Apr 10 09:53 |
| oiaohm | So we have a DNS mess | Apr 10 09:53 |
| oiaohm | So far holding up fairly well. | Apr 10 09:53 |