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Re: ELF-capable ld.so and libc5 in stable tree ?

> Would it be possible to put the libc5 package, and an a.out ld.so that
> works with it, in the stable tree ?  That way people who install our
> a.out release still get a system that can run ELF programs.

libc5-5.2.18-1 can already be put in the stable tree as it will not
interfere with anything.  

The only thing preventing ld.so-1.7.14-1 from being put in the stable
tree is that the kernel must support ELF since.  Ldd and ldconfig are
ELF but they are linked statically so they do not depend on libc5.  I
suppose I could build another revision of ld.so-1.7.14 with an a.out
ldd and ldconfig but it doesn't make much sense to do so if the user
is only installing it to use libc5.

> Two of the major things that's coming up in my discussion with Matt
> Welsh about the Installation HOWTO are that he thinks that
>  (a) we don't have ELF at all and are nowhere near it
> and
>  (b) we're very slow generally.
> 
> I think that neither of these are true, but I think it could help us
> if we made it more obvious.

(a) is definitely false.  (b) is debatable.  When looking at the
system as a whole, we are *incredibly* slow at making releases and
have a well deserved reputation for missing deadlines.

David
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