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Re: Modest proposal for successful releases



On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

> According to Dale Scheetz:
> [ release engineering ]
> > Comments?
> 
> I agree. For example there is no working apache package at the moment,
> neither in stable nor in unstable. How do I explain that to a customer who
> wants me to install apache for him?

Very carefully ;-)

> 
> However at the moment it's very hard to just "try" an installation-
> it takes a lot of time, and every install will be different because not
> everyone selects the same packages in dselect.
> 
This is the root of the testing problem. It showed up so dramaticly with
the last release because more than half of the distribution was "new".

> We desperately need the much-talked about meta-packages - so one can just
> try if the "workstation" or "development" or "server" sets install without
> hassle. Since that is what the typical user will install, you can be
> sure that at least the installation of those sets works without trouble.
> 
We have discussed this at various times, but no "real" discussion has been
done about what, exactly, should be delivered in each of the "simple"
installs.
Someone said they had a script that sorted a list of packages into
"dependency" order. This combined with something like DoList would greatly
help in building such "meta-packages". 
I'd like to hear more about just what goes in each of these
mini-installations.

Luck,

Dwarf

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