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Re: Modest proposal for successful releases



> dwarf >Third: Cultivate a set of users, as beta test sites, who span the range of
> dwarf >"strange" machines and "difficult" system configurations, who will be
> dwarf >willing to "fully" test the installation of the new release.
> 
> Very important! Any ideas how to organize such a group?

Well, if most of the developers are using unstable at this point anyway, I 
think that some of those people could simply switch to frozen when such a 
distribution becomes available.

However, there is one flaw here: the system may perform differently when 
upgraded than when installed from scratch.  It *should* not, but experience 
has shown that it does.  But hey, it's the best idea I have right now :-)

> And the problem is that all developers probably are already running 1.3.
> We ourselves do not run our stable releases! I have begun running our
> mission critical servers with 1.3 since I have made the experience that
> what we run is more "stable" than what we call "stable"!

Well, I am running the 1.2.x right now, but have installed the libc and S-Lang 
libs from bo.  But if I am in the minority here as you suggest, then we 
certainly need more developers running the stable release.  I do try to report 
bugs when I see them, but I agree that more developers running stable are 
needed to be able to catch a more significant amount of bugs.

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John Goerzen          | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org)
Custom Programming    | 
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