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Re: Switching to RPM (was Unidentified Subject!)

'Mark Eichin wrote:'
>
>Remember that one of the things debian has is *smooth* upgrades.
>RedHat is taking a beating on 3.x to 4.x upgrades especially -- what
>saves them seems to be that installs are easy, so *reinstalls* are
>easy :-( I'd like to see them handle that in a credible manner; they
>should be able to learn *something* from us on the subject --
>unfortunately I have no idea *what* we're doing right that they're
>doing wrong :-)

As much as I want to bad-mouth Ian for the over-complexity of dpkg.
He /did/ think of everything!  dpkg was designed to handle every case.
Because that task is so complicated, dpkg needs a lot of maintainance.

Time and again Red Hat has chosen simplifications in design to get to
market fast.  But their tradeoffs make certain types of upgrades hard.

But dpkg often fails us when upgrading too.  We have some serious
problems that need addresing.

I hope we don't waste any more time considering a switch to rpm.  We
have enough to work on without introducing that complexity.

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