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Re: On my position within the project



sailer@sun10.sep.bnl.gov (Tim Sailer)  wrote on 05.03.97 in <9703052201.AA06936@sun10.sep.bnl.gov.sep>:

> In your email to me, Mike Neuffer, you wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > > And as far as my own job is concerned - my only crime is in introducing
> > > radical ideas that developers disliked. It doesn't seem a crime to me
> > > at all.
> >
> > The problem is that those were not ideas.....
> >
> > You tried to create facts without consulting or informing anyone
> > beforehand.
> >
> > I would call your behavior competing with the one of Nero in old Rome.
> >
> > The position of project leader should _lead_ not _dictate_.
>
> True, but if no one follows the 'lead', then harsher measures have
> to be used.  I, for one, find no fault in Bruces actions, not
> counting his emotional outburst and it's side effects.

I, for one, agree completely with Mike.

In the past, I had the impression that Bruce led. In the last month or so,  
however, the impression was increasingly one of dictating without any  
consultation.

Bruce blew up about the developers.

I'm pretty sure several developers were quite short of blowing up about  
Bruce. I certainly was.

This thing was definitely mutual. The fun was going out of Debian. That's  
bad for a project like this one.

MfG Kai