The debian-private mailing list leak, part 1. Volunteers have complained about Blackmail. Lynchings. Character assassination. Defamation. Cyberbullying. Volunteers who gave many years of their lives are picked out at random for cruel social experiments. The former DPL's girlfriend Molly de Blanc is given volunteers to experiment on for her crazy talks. These volunteers never consented to be used like lab rats. We don't either. debian-private can no longer be a safe space for the cabal. Let these monsters have nowhere to hide. Volunteers are not disposable. We stand with the victims.

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Re: Draft 3 of the homepage is up for evaluation.



Hi,
>>"Daniel" == Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@pathname.com> writes:

Daniel> By the way, in future mailings, I will use such phrases as
Daniel> "excessive complaining without intent to directly improve the
Daniel> situation" instead of "whining".  :-)

Daniel> (Now, let's see if I get flamed again for this.)

	I'm afraid so. I think you are missing the point. I have not
 commented on the technical aspect of your reply, since I agree with
 you totally, I object to your characterization of one message in
 resonse to a technical ``request for comment'' as "excessive
 complaining without intent to directly improve the situation" (and
 not just the use of the word whining).

	You also explained (in a separate message)

Daniel> I would like to give the web developers a little more room to
Daniel> work.  The web page has been neglected for a long time.  I am
Daniel> very happy to see a few dedicated individuals working on it.
Daniel> I believe that they need freedom to express their creativity
Daniel> and ideas.

	I do not believe that the members of the web team are so thin
 skinned that they can not take part in a technical discussion, and
 further, a single message should not trigger your (doubtlessly
 laudable) protective instincts.  A technical discussion, as far as I
 am concerned, helps rather than hinders my design efforts, and I
 would like any warts pointed out in advance. Please allow the web
 team the same opportunity.

	Methinks you are not doing the web design team any favours.

Daniel> Please bear in mind the inadequacies of email.  When I say
Daniel> "whining", you can't hear the inflection in my voice.  When I
Daniel> use capital letters, you don't know whether I am using
Daniel> emphasis or shouting (I almost never shout or curse).

Daniel> I believe that if I imparted the same information in person or
Daniel> over the telephone, you would get a very different impression
Daniel> about my interpersonal skills.  *sigh* 

	Ummm, I don't quite know how to put this, well, gently; but, I
 think one has to pay attention to the medium as well as the content,
 and this comes under the purview of interpersonal skills. Since
 facial and body language signals have never transmitted well in
 correspondence ;-), one generally develops a different style to best
 convey what one intends; may I suggest that this may be an area that
 may well be worth investigating?

	I have often been envious of the genius in correspondence as
 practiced by fictional characters in books written in the last
 century (any of Wilkie Collin's works may serve as an example), but I
 fear that that is a lost art. 

	Anyway, this thread has gone on too long already, and I think
 I have said all I have to contribute on this issue.

	cordially,

		manoj
-- 
 Were there fewer fools, knaves would starve. Anonymous
Manoj Srivastava               <url:mailto:srivasta@acm.org>
Mobile, Alabama USA            <url:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/>