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Re: Open letter to Martin Schulze

Hi,

>>"Rob" == Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.edu> writes:

Rob> bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:

Bruce> These days the majority don't want to get involved. A few core
Bruce> members send me private support messages, a few post. The rest
Bruce> stand by.

Rob> I wouldn't say that.  I'll start the "me toos" if that's what it
Rob> takes, but I still think some sort of polling method would be
Rob> more appropriate, and would get the desired effect without so
Rob> much tension

	I have been keeping quite so far, since I did not want to fan
 the flames of dissention, but at some point one does have to stop
 straddling the fence. This is a me too.

	I really liked Debian, say an year or 6 months ago, when there
 were technical discussions, leading to a consensus, or the boss
 stepped in (usually with ``guys, you have pushed this around for
 days, and repeating yourselves, I use my fiat power to settle this'')
 I liked being involved, and the dictatorship was _very_
 benevolent. And we all seemed to respect each other more, technical
 arguments did not degenerate into personal attacks. 

	But it was putting a strain on the dictator.  That was the
 reason the board was proposed: and reverting to the older system
 would not lower the pressure on our beloved dictator (I don't know --
 maybe the new mlti-tiered dictatorship system [delegated
 dictatorship!] would help).

	So, I say: I vote democratically for a benevolent delegated
 dictatorship.

Rob> 1) user proposes something ridiculous.

     1a) There is a modicum of discussion

Rob> 2) person who disagrees (or leader) calls for a vote.
Rob> 3) everyone sees that only 1% of the developers agree with the
Rob>    proposal
Rob> 4) either proposal dies or everyone is comfortable ignoring it

Rob> the results would be advisory, not compulsory, but (assuming it's
Rob> even really a good idea) developing something like this is
Rob> probably an issue for a more stable project...

	I like this (I do think maybe a discussion may not be
 inappropriate.

Rob> -- Rob

	manoj
 treading on egg shells

-- 
 "We Americans, we're a simple people... but piss us off, and we'll
 bomb your cities." Robin Williams, _Good Morning Vietnam_
Manoj Srivastava               <url:mailto:srivasta@acm.org>
Mobile, Alabama USA            <url:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/>