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Re: THOUGHT: New 'user-contributed' section?

On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> 	1. Let anyone upload packages into "unstable"
> 	2. Make the criterion for movement from unstable to "tested" based
> 	   on the getting an OK from the testing group.
> 
> [...deleted...]
> 
> BTW, moving to this method would give "real" meaning to the names stable
> and unstable.

it would also make 'unstable' far too dangerous to use.

many people, myself included, upgrade regularly from unstable. I do this
for two reasons:
 1) to keep my systems up to date, with latest bug- & security- patches. 
 2) to test the unstable tree and report bugs to the bug system.

i can risk doing that because i have a reasonable amount of trust in the
debian developers who are uploading to unstable.

if uploading to unstable is open to just anyone, then that trust will
disappear.

what will also disappear will be the most useful aspect of debian
- ability to quickly and easily upgrade packages. 

This will be an inconvenience for me, but it will harm debian...how many
people are going to track unstable when there is no restriction on who
can upload to it? if there is only a handful of people tracking/testing
unstable, how does it get tested enough to become 'stable'?

The testing group can't test everything. Some bugs will only become
apparent when a package is used for real-life purposes and/or under a
heavy load.

I have no problem with the rest of what you say - in fact, it makes a
lot of sense - but we should keep the current restrictions on uploading
to unstable.


In short: I'm quite happy with the fact that 'unstable' isnt. lets keep
it that way.

craig