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Re: More massive uploads in the week before stable release

On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

> 
> > > So my question is - is the release just going to "happen", or is there
> > > going to be a "release candidate" build made from frozen that will be
> > > tested for last minute gotchas?
> > > 
> > This is exactly what is happening "as we speak". When it passes the
> > testing hurtles it will be releaseable.
> > 
> > Waiting is,
> > 
> > Dwarf
> 
> The fact is that packages are still being uploaded to incoming
> for frozen - here is the current list headed for the frozen
> distribution:

Without these uploads fixes to the distribution would be impossible!

> 
> # grep "Dist.*frozen" *.changes
> alien_3.3_i386.changes:Distribution: frozen
> amd_upl102-12_i386+m68k.changes:Distribution: frozen unstable
> ftpwatch_1.2_i386.changes:Distribution: frozen
> lg-issue16_1-3_i386.changes:Distribution: frozen unstable
> lg-issue17_1-1_i386.changes:Distribution: frozen unstable
> qt1_1.2-5_i386.changes:Distribution: frozen non-free
> xfree86_3.2-6_i386.changes:Distribution: frozen unstable
> 
> And since 5:00am this morning (Pacific time), the following
> files have been installed into frozen:
> 
> Got bo/binary-i386/x11/xcontrib_3.2-2.deb 179510
> Got bo/binary-i386/games/xblast_2.2.1-2.deb 165058
> Got bo/binary-i386/comm/uucp_1.06.1-6.deb 672060
> Got bo/binary-i386/base/sysvinit_2.71-2.deb 65332
> Got bo/binary-i386/base/kernel-image-2.0.30_2.0.30-6.deb 2215604
> Got bo/binary-i386/admin/menu_1.3-1.deb 197056
> Got bo/binary-i386/admin/at_3.1.6-1.deb 31464
> Got bo/binary-i386/devel/ddd_2.1-1.deb 1239008
> Got bo/binary-i386/utils/dds2tar_2.4.13-2.deb 75074
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/resc1440.bin 1474560
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/root.bin 691813
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/resc1200.bin 1228800
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/lmemroot.bin 1228800
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/md5sum.txt 1382
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/rawrite2.exe 17863
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/rawrite2.txt 1639
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/linux 645517
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/drv1440.bin 1474560
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/dselect.beginner.6.html 16893
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/dselect.beginner.6.txt 16176
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/install.html 48617
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/install.in.html 48613
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/install.txt 48309
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/drv1200.bin 1228800
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/base1_3.tgz 5928889
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/cfdisk.txt 17640
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/base-5.bin 1016320
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/base-3.bin 1228800
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/base-4.bin 1228800
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/base-1.bin 1228800
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/base-2.bin 1228800
> Got bo/disks-i386/1997-05-13/X11_release_note.txt 2975
> Got bo/binary-all/games/xblast-sound_2.2.1-2.deb 1286440
> Got bo/binary-all/text/wspanish_1.0-6.deb 250980
> Got bo/binary-all/base/modconf_0.2.9.deb 17350
> Got bo/binary-all/devel/kernel-headers-2.0.30_2.0.30-6.deb 717702
> Got bo/binary-all/doc/jargon_4.0.0-2.deb 582478
> Got bo/binary-all/doc/doc-rfc_1997.05-1.deb 2298032
> Got bo/binary-all/doc/doc-linux-es_97.03-2.deb 425624
> Got bo/binary-all/utils/bug_2.94.deb 16616
> Got bo/binary-all/admin/boot-floppies_1.2.16.deb 136008
> 
> So forgive me if I didn't get the impression that you
> were testing the "release candidate".
> 
Please forgive me if I sound like I am getting tired of this conversation.
The "release candidate" you speak of is a constantly changing item which
is under constant testing.

> Since you obviously aren't yet

Since you obviously are working hard not to pay attention I don't see what
I can say at this point. The testing group is currently working on the
newest disk set and have already discovered one minor problem that will
probably require at least one more release of the installation disks.

 - when the QA team feels it is
> appropriate (probably after the critical bug is fixed), they 
> should announce on debian-devel-announce that no more uploads 
> will be allowed into frozen (even to correct bugs) - and

You can't freeze something that is already frozen. If you refuse to allow
bug fixes into the frozen distribution then testing can cease and the
release can be made at any time, because nothing is going to change! You
concepts here are more than a little flawed. If you really want to be of
some help then join us in the testing team and help get things tested. You
could take over the management of the team if you want after this next
release and I would be happy to turn it over to you if you really want to
micro-manage the testing opperation. Otherwise please "show me the bugs"
but please stop trying to do my job ;-)

Luck,

Dwarf
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