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Re: FreeLinux project

On Wed, 28 May 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> 
> > their goal is to create a very basic linux
> > system, for all platforms. they are not our competitors, they are doing
> > something, that will help debian.
> 
> They are doing something to hurt Debian. 

We see this very differently. 

> Debian should provide the base
> system that other platforms are derived from. By providing a separate
> base system, they ensure that other distributions will not be taking
> as much software from Debian as we would like.

Even you should have seen by now that this aspect of the Debian project
was pretty much a complete failure. 

The Debian distribution is a distribution among others, like RedHat or LST
or Suse or Yggdrasil or Slackware. The only distributions that ever
provided a base for other value-added distributors were SLS then 
Slackware, RedHat and now LST.

SLS was the platform for Slackware, from which then distributions like the
now independent SuSE branched off.

RedHat provided the distribution for the first generations of Caldera
products until it was replaced last year with the distribution from
LST.

Unifix was the distribution behind Linux-FT, the first Posix certified 
Linux distribution.

Debian was never the base for anything besides itself that went into the
market in any numbers. 

You have to accept it, even if you don't like it. It is a fact.
This part is the project is a failure.

FreeLinux takes a different aproach. It is not intended to provide a full
featured distribution on which VARs can add some stuff like your HAM
software. 

Instead we want to concentrate on a core system that consists of
the kernel close parts and the pices that are indentified as REQUIRED in
the standards (Posix et. al.). The current distributions are not capable
anymore to provide the same basic environment, this is what we try to get
back. On top of that core is enough room for the Debian distribution or
RedHat or any other.

So we do not hurt Debian, instead we help the project. Even if this is
not immediately obvious to some people.

Mike


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