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Re: Results of "social contract" survey



sanvila@unex.es (Santiago Vila Doncel)  wrote on 10.06.97 in <Pine.LNX.3.96.970610105751.1955B-100000@cantor.unex.es>:

> Bruce Perens wrote:
> > The problem is that some authors are insisting on unmodified source for
> > trace-ability, and trace-ability is a good thing from our perspective as
> > well.
>
> Freedom is more important than trace-ability.

This is a false dichotomy.

> Sure, dpkg-source changes will be an improvement in this area, but again
> it should not be mandatory from the license. If some author insist on
> unmodified source, this is not freely redistributable software, and it
> should go to non-free.

I disagree.

What the authors are really doing here, is insisting that it be clear  
which part was made by them, and which part was made by someone else. I  
see absolutely nothing wrong with this.

Now, we can certainly talk about which ways of handling will best achieve  
this, but I suspect the best way really _is_ keeping the unchanged  
original sources around.

Furthermore, I don't see how this takes something important away from us.

Now, if the author insists that we can't distribute his source together  
with a patch file, or if he insists on using some obscure format for his  
sources, _then_ we may have a real problem.

> There is already a paragraph in the GPL for "trace-ability":

We explicitely don't want to force people to use the GPL. There are more  
ways to achieve this goal than one.


MfG Kai


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