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Re: contrib/non-free policy



> I think we should focus on the following policy (and I think this has been
> the original meaning of the distributions anyways):
> 
>       1. Every package in "main" has to apply to the DFSG _and_ may only 
>       depend/recommand packages in "main" (to keep the distribution
>       consistent.)
> 
>       2. Packages which fail one of these two points, may go into contrib,
>       if distribution of the packages (`.debs') via our ftp server, its
>       mirrors, and on CD-ROMs is allowed without any restrictions on such 
>       distribution (for example, payment of a fee or requirement, that all
>       other programs on the CD-ROM have to be "free" too).

I think we should also allow distribution of the sort "not modified source
only (modified binary distribution not allowed)" with our diff's and
probably put them in a separate directory to avoid confusion while auto-
compiling. We do not distribute .deb in this case.

> 
>       3. Packages which fail 1. and 2. may go into non-free, if
>       distribution of the packages (`.debs') via our ftp server and its
>       mirrors is allowed without any restrictions on such distribution.
> 
> Please note, that point 2. and 3. only require that distribution "of the
> packages" is allowed, that is, distribution "in the form we provide the
> packages" is allowed. For example, if a license only allows distribution
> of un-modified binaries, we can distribute the package without problems if
> we do not modify the binaries. If modifications are necessary to get the
> program running, we can't ship the package at all (in no distribution), or
> we find a work-around to distribute the binaries un-modified together with
> "patches."
> 
> Also note, that points 2 and 3 do not require any other requirement of the
> DFSG. (For example, this implies that we are allowed to arrange "Debian
> specific licenses" for packages in non-free and even contrib! Bruce, is
> this ok with you?)

I sincerely hope so. This change in policy would not require that
maintainers try to arrange this specific agreements , but if someone
volonteer to do that - why rule out this package?

Thanks,

Alex Y.

> 
> In summary: We have high requirements for "main" and we do not make any
> compromises there. We could have decided to put everything else we are
> allowed to distribute via FTP in a larger "non-free" distribution but this
> would make things harder for CD vendors. So we seperate
> "not-freely-distributable" packages (non-free) from
> "freely-distributable-but-fails-main" (contrib) packages.
> 
> Here are a few examples:
> 
>  - "anacron" is fully GPL and depends only on perl which is itself in
>    "main", so it can go into "main" too (as it is now).
> 
>  - "qt" fails several points of the DFSG so it can _not_ go into "main".
>    However, distribution via FTP _and_ CD-ROM (even commercially) is
>    explicitely allowed, so it can go into "contrib".
> 
>  - "mysql" fails the criteria for "main" and "contrib" since it does
>    not allow commercial distribution on CD-ROM. Distribution "for free"
>    via our FTP servers (and mirrors) is fine though, so it can go into
>    "non-free".
> 
>  - "Windows NT" fails criteria for "main" (no source), and "non-free" and
>    "contrib" so we can't distribute it at all. (I think we wouldn't like
>    to do so anyways ;-)
> 
> 
> Anything else unclear? :-)
> 
> I hope that this makes the current policy a bit clearer. If not, we should
> continue with this discussion, since this is a very important (if not most
> important) part of Debian. (Remember, that we are the only "free" major
> distribution out there! If we don't keep these ideas, who else should do
> it?)
> 
> If you all agree to this, I'll post this on debian-devel, too.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> P.S.: My last changes to the appropriate sections in the draft of the 
> policy manual where nonsense, so I changed them back to version 2.2.0.0.
> 
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