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Re: contrib/non-free policy

> Hi,
> >>"Alex" == Alex Yukhimets <aqy6633@is5.nyu.edu> writes:
> 
> Alex> This is bumerang (sorry, I don't have correct spelling handy)
> Alex> situation. You try to hit copyright holders and developers but
> Alex> finally the Debian itself is hit by the lowering it's rating on
> Alex> the CD market.
> 
> 	Well, is it a goal to gather maximal market share? I think
>  not. I think that making a statement about free software is better
>  than the market share (you can get a lot of companies to buy in just
>  by making something a commercial product -- free===unsupported in the
>  business world)
> 
> Alex> Not saying is that it is immoral to put preassure on
> Alex> developers. They already made their "creatures" available
> Alex> publically and just try to have some control over them to
> Alex> prevent someone's messing with their code. And you are trying to
> Alex> say "no boys, you aren't good enough yet".
> 
> 	No, we are sayin we have a policy about what we allow on our
>  CD's, and sorry, boys (girls?), your licence does not pass. No value
>  judgement about the quality of the effort is stated or implied.
> 
> Alex> Not to mention that leaving software out of Debian CD is no
> Alex> preassure.
> 
> 	The efficacy of our form of promotion of free software is a
>  separate issue.

Well, but that's exactly what I was talking about. Removing contrib
directory from Official CD is NOT a good move in any sense, even in a 
sense of promotion of free software. This move could have any success
if we had substantial market share. In current situation it is nothing
but punishing ourselves. As an alternative we could have finest
quality main distribution (which is the thing atrracted _me_ to
Debian) with proven excellent support to ruin "free==unsupported"
statement, AND attractive, versatile contrib area on CD which would be
as complete as any other _comercial_ distribution, only better.

Thank you.

Alex Y. 
> 
> 
> 	manoj
> -- 
>  Chip Salzenberg sent me a complete patch to add System V IPC (msg,
>  sem and shm calls), so I added them.  If that bothers you, you can
>  always undefine them in config.sh.  :-) --Larry Wall in
>  <9384@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
> Manoj Srivastava               <url:mailto:srivasta@acm.org>
> Mobile, Alabama USA            <url:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/>
> 
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