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Re: gated

On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote:

> On 23 Jul 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > >>"Karl" == Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.au> writes:
> > 
> > Karl> Hmmm ... Would there be any harm in Debian signing it and
> > Karl> putting it in the non-free (or contrib) area?  I don't this this
> > Karl> would 'break' what we stand for.
> > 
> > 	I would rather that we not sign such a licence. (I think it
> > *does* dilute our stand a little. Not much, but if we start here,
> > there may be other cases. I would vote to maintain the purity of what
> > Debian distributes -- not free software except gated and except ...
> > 
> > 	manoj
> > feeling very puritan
> 
> Heh.
> 
> Let me disagree with you and with Bruce once again (although I did it
> too many times already).  My opinion is that it is very important for
> us to have gated as Debian package.  Those are more or less my points:
> 
> 1. Debian packaging system was made to let people install precompiled
>    ready-to-use packages patched for Linux and Debian, instead of
>    downloading the source and having good time with it.  Once I change
>    the source to compile cleanly under Debian, why should hundreds of
>    other people do the same work?

Correct.

> 
> 2. What are you afraid of?  Why does the fact that one Debian
>    developer sign the license hurt you?  We're not into politics, we
>    are here to do our job, and to do it good, not to defend Free
>    Software(tm) and fight evil guys who get money for the work _they_
>    do.
> 
> 3. That's what non-free is for.

Nopie, if anything thats what Vitamin D will be for, but we're not at that
point yet, heck we just got a mailing list.  But for Vitamin D to have
packages which aren't in non-free/contrib we are going to need dedicated
machines like Debian has for bugs and lists.

Shaya


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