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Re: gated

On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> From: Vadim Vygonets <vadik@cs.huji.ac.il>
> > Third, I know Borik personally and I can assure you he doesn't make
> > any CDs.  I really haven't got that point.
> 
> I'm sorry if this discussion is confusing.  The point I was trying to
> make is that if someone wants to make a CD of non-free and contrib
> stuff:
> 
> 	1. It should be done outside of the Debian project.
> 	2. Someone other than me should make the CD.
> 
> What is actually produced is an ISO 9660 filesystem that can be written
> to a CD. It can be tested on a hard disk - a CD writer is not necessary.

Why are you talking about CDs?  We were talking about gated in
non-free.  Anyway, I know you aren't making CDs with contrib and
non-free on it, but Debian has these sections for those who want to
FTP it down to their computers.

> I am attempting to harangue the people who want this stuff into
> organizing to support it and doing the work, rather than attempting to
> persuade me to do it for them.

What do you mean about support?  Every Debian maintainer has to
support his packages and do his work.  Noone says you have to do
everything.

> The commentary is not a reflection on
> the industriousness of your dear cousin Borik, rather it is a statement
> of what work _I_ do not want to do.

Neither me, nor my dear cousin, nor your dear friends, nor our dear
Mr. J. Random Debian Developer are trying to make you do our work.
You have your part in Debian project, I have my (maybe smaller, but
still recognizable) part, and other people too.  All Borik tried to do
at this point is making yet another package, which is not exactly
free, and IMO will never be GPLed (because AFAIK they get some money
for it, too).  That's his part, not yours.  And now I'm on his side
not because he is my dear cousin, and not because he bought me pizza
two days ago, but because I think he is right and I want to see gated,
which is a good program, in Debian.

It was your choise to become the leader of the project.  If you think
you are doing too much work, become an ordinary developer.  But don't
do our work.  I have one mother, I don't need one more.

Vadik's dear himself.

--
Vadim Vygonets * vadik@cs.huji.ac.il * vadik@debian.org * Unix admin
The fish doesn't think, because the fish knows...  everything.
	-- Arizona Dream


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