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Re: gated

On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote:

> I really don't get the politics yet.  Maybe I'm dumb.  But ok, if most
> people want to split Vitamin from Debian, ok for me -- I just don't
> get it.  But I think things like gated must be somewhere available for
> Debian (maybe Vitamin is the place, maybe non-free).

what i want to know is "What, exactly, does 'splitting Vitamin D from
Debian' mean?"

Does it mean non-free and contrib vanish utterly from the debian ftp
servers?

Or is it just a project to take what's on ftp.debian.org (main, contrib, and
non-free), add other packages which aren't yet or never will be in non-free,
and make a CD?



i like the sound of the latter, but dislike the former.  i use too many
almost-but-not-quite free packages (especially pine!) to be at all happy
about the prospect of them disappearing.

i really hope that nobody is suggesting that that happen.

i prefer truly free software for many reasons but, i'm going to continue
to use pine until elm or something else has the features of pine that i
like (two main ones: simple menu system, fairly good message selection
& save/delete/forward/bounce, and decent folder support - all without
having to use a GUI & mouse and without having to give up vi). pine's
not perfect but it's a lot closer to what i need than elm or mutt is.


craig

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