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Re: gated



On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
>From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@waterf.org>
>> You did not have any problems convincing yourself for the last years that
>> non-free is not part of Debian.
>What I can convince people inside Debian of and what I can convince
>outsiders of are two different things, obviously.
>> Many people found that irritating.
>And a majority of people did not. Otherwise, the social contract vote
>would have gone differently.

This is replay of old communication problems betwen us. You seem to image
that I said something different. The context was gated being in non-free
and thus being not part of the Debian distribution. The developer
essentially is the distributor since the package cannot be part of the
Distribution (as per current policy).

The point I made is that this fine distinction between
which parts of our ftp site are part of debian and what is not was
confusing to me at the beginning and it still is confusing to others today
as evident from several messages posted to debian-private recently.'

The big problem with e-mail is not to start fantasizing what the other
persons intends are and I have seen that again and again with you.

But since you brought the Social Contract up:

By throwing out non-free and contrib you are deviating from the Social
Contract. It says:

5.Programs That Don't Meet Our Free-Software Standards

     We acknowledge that some of our users require the use of programs
that don't conform to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. We have created
"contrib" and "non-free" areas in our FTP archive for this software.  The
software in these directories is not part of the Debian system, although
it has been configured for use with Debian. We encourage CD manufacturers
to read the licenses of software packages in these directories and
determine if they can distribute that software on their CDs. Thus,
although non-free software isn't a part of Debian, we support its use, and
we provide infrastructure (such as our bug-tracking system and mailing
lists) for non-free software packages. 

You might want to consider a revision of that point.

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