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Re: There are _TWO_ discussions here



> Would it be very difficult to you as an X maintainer release compressed
> fonts packages into contrib? 

Yes, for obscure technical reasons, it would be difficult for *me* to
release them.  However, like I said, it's so easy, *you* write the
script.  It would probably be a lot easier for someone other than me
to put those fonts up, and you even estimated 5 minutes to write the
script... (It's funny, an argument like this is the reason I wrote the
gzip support in the first place.  Many free software arguments can be
ended by someone actually writing some code...)

> Would it break the Free Software World?

No... it is, however, bending over backwards to cater to *inferior*
propietary solutions.  Let them can catch up.  (The users, after all,
will be better off if the commercial X vendors *do* start providing
gzip support...)

> Would it make Debian less respectable distribution?

Maybe, maybe not.  The exact wording in the social contract is:

: We will
: support our users who develop and run non-free software on Debian, but we
: will never make the system depend on an item of non-free software.

Part 5 "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" also applies,
but in particular:
: To support these goals, we will provide an
: integrated system of high-quality, 100% free software

(Note that it's the Social Contract here, *not* the DFSG, that is
relevant.)   I'm certainly *far* more interested in the "integrated
system" part than the "non-free software" part -- after all, strictly
speaking, I *can't* support someone using non-free software that *I
don't even have* much less have the ability to fix.

> I am sure that substantial part of Debian users (and developers) uses some
> form of commercial software: Motif, Applixware, WP, Accel-X, Metro-X,

I am sure that you are *guessing* at this; just because they exist
doesn't mean they're widely used. (If they were, I'd have gotten far
more bug reports about gzip'ed fonts; I think I've had 2, or maybe
3...)  Also, I certainly don't use any of them, and recommend against
them, recommending free alternatives in most cases.

> bounds". The more commercial software appear on the market, the more popular 
> becomes Linux. Neglecting that will rule out Debian itself from the lists

The more proprietary software that appears on the market without free
alternatives, the less *relevant* the freedom a DFSG-system provides
becomes.  

Hmm, it's pretty clear we're on opposite poles on this; we may just
have to agree to disagree, especially if you go write the script to
solve *your* problem...


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