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Re: why this marketing stuff is important

On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> There's a guy who is packaging Debian with a book. I can't say
> much about his project, because I get all of this stuff in
> confidence. However, he has a problem. The "pipeline" from him to the
> retail bookstore is longer in duration than we generally take to make
> a point release.
>
> Bookstores in the U.S. have a policy that they return anything that
> does not sell. If we send 1.3.1 to the bookstores and 1.3.3 is out by
> then, this publisher will get a lot of returns, with the retailers
> asking him to repackage the books with a newer CD if he is lucky, and
> not making another order at all if he is not lucky. Usually the way
> it works is that the merchandise sits un-sold for a year and is then
> returned in bad condition, and the publisher takes a loss on it.

a debian book would be great.

could he package the book with whatever version of debian happens to
be current at the time of publication and also include a coupon for
a free/discounted upgrade CD? maybe he could make a deal with LSL or
Cheapbytes or Dale or someone?  Maybe even a CD subscription deal - if
any Debian CD makers do subscriptions.

> I really want to see Debian in "Barnes and Noble", "Borders", and your
> local bookstore. So I'm motivated to help this publisher.

i'd like to see them in bookshops too - but not at the price of
completely destroying debian's dynamic update nature (which is, imo, one
of debian's best features)

i think that the difference in production time between CDs/books and
our ftp site are *always* going to be an issue. it's just the nature
of the beast. we can't hold up our releases indefinitely, but we can
make some compromises to meet the needs of tangible-media publishers AND
suggest alternative routes around the problem (like the subscription
idea above).

craig

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