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Re: Brian and me



Oh good heavens. I do think you take things about 100 times too seriously.

OK - I'll look you in the eye and tell you that Debian is incapable of
following any leader that it elected. Consider your eye looked upon.

The only way to deal with this is the open development model, where
everyone knows what everyone else is doing. Everybody goes in their
own direction, and the only thing the project leader can do is try to
move the "vector sum" away from zero. It is when we closet a small group
off alone from the others that problems arise. This has happened in every
case - the old executive board, the Deity project, etc.

	Thanks

	Bruce

From: ioannis@flinet.com
>   If, Bruce, we are to be guided at all by the apology of your
> preceding message, then Debian is in great peril. It was only few
> months ago that we voted on the form of government for Debian  and
> we decided a one-man dictatorship with annual elections.
> It was not the dictatorship of the masses. It was not the rule of the
> many, or the inference that decisions will be taken by the
> loudest of voices that happen to pass at the moment. 
> Surely, it is not because we lack leaders, for, thank God, we have in
> infinite supply around here. You are stronger than all these Bruce,
> for if not, you will have to look us straight in the eye and tell us that
> we are incapable to follow any leader that we elected. This I trust to be 
> the case.
> 
>  It is not a secret then, that my belief in Debian's ability to survive
> has taken a major shake.  My good Sirs, a year ago I used the term whorehouse 
> to characterize this project. Except, now I think, this term is incorrect.
> Because in a whorehouse everyone has a role to play. Everyone in the 
> whorehouse know what they have to do. And they do it (and I do not want 
> anyone to stand up and ask me who I know it, because I hope you have not 
> forgotten the days when you were at the age of 16 and you pretended you were
> men :). Certainly, the provider knows the role and is the salesperson of the 
> house. There is also the "girl", who sometimes turns out to be a boy, and 
> sometimes turns out to be a grandmother. The customer is the visitor of 
> the whorehouse and knows the role, and knows why he is there. 
> 
> In contrast in Debian the situation is different. Like I said, in the 
> whorehouse everyone knows their role and all of them follow it.
> In Debian, unfortunately, EVERYONE does ANYTHING they like. And above all, as
> is most often the case, nobody else knows their roles, for they are whatever
> they declare to be at the moment: sometimes a soldier, in other days an
> nco, an officer, a captain, a general, or nato chief. And there have been
> cases were some have assumed the most powerful role of all and become the
> cook :)
> 
>    This is the situation and we all know it very well. Why is it so
> difficult to let the rulers rule until the next election ?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ioannis Tambouras 
> ioannis@flinet.com, West Palm Beach, Florida
> Signed pgp-key on key server. 
> 
-- 
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Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
Bruce Perens K6BP   bruce@debian.org   NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502


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