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Re: L0pht Advisory: IMAP4rev1 imapd server (fwd)

bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:

> From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
> > In this case, it becomes much more difficult to debug setuid or setgid
> > programs.
> 
> Debian executables are not built for debugging - for example we don't have
> the "-g" debugging symbols on them, to avoid creating bloated systems for

I understand this and I agree with this policy 100%.

> our users. One would expect a daemon that is being debugged to be built for
> debugging, and to have its UID and GID changing disabled during that process.

What I am concerned about is somebody debugging a setuid program.
Sometimes, these programs can be difficult to run under a debugger and
the core file may be very useful.  Sometimes, the bug may revolve
around an obscure conflict with permissions.  (One setuid program I
wrote switches back and forth between two uids, and a debugger can be
helpful there.)  This is why I say there should be an option to get
core dumps in these situations for people that need them.

Better: Fix the library so that the memory is wiped after a lookup in
the shadow password table.

> 
> One can also run an executable within the debugger and avoid core dumps
> entirely.
> 
> 	Thanks
> 
> 	Bruce
> -- 
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> 

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