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Re: Debian + KDE disk

bruce, you misunderstand the whole situation.
as i figured out : jf lehmans is creating a debian 1.3.1 cdrom.
as they did with the last 1.3.1 press, they will include everything that
is possible, like packages from non-free (qt, jdk, xv, many more).

this is far better than shipping the official cdrom without all non-free
packages. and since they create good and tested cdroms, and know what
they do (opposed to imagemagick and others), it is a good thing.

and for the new press, they will include kde : both source, the kde's
version of kde-deb and the debian version of kde-deb. they don't do kde
marketing, they create a debian cdrom, and fill the cdrom with
additional stuff.

this is a very good thing for debian : jf lehmans is the only way to get
a debian cdrom :
 - working (opposed to the stuff imagemagick created)
 - with small manual (cd cover, 20 pages or so)
 - with additional stuff (they included everythnig they are allowed to
   from non-free)

one word summary : what they do is great. 
including kde is better than having an empty disk
(hey ! the official cdrom will also include kde in it's contrib/ dir,
 why shouldn't other also include kde ?)

andreas


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